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Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
nwinston96 said:
Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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Doubtful since the Dev Eds are so readily available, there isn't much incentive for people to try.
And Motorola is notorious for having hard to crack bootloaders.
The answer is no.
nwinston96 said:
Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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No reason to believe so. They have the Dev editions and to be frank, all of the companies are getting better with locking it up, or at least Motorola and Samsung are. Too much developer jargon to use but be unfortunately assured that unless someone wants to leak important code and risk their current job and all future employment in cell phone development, we won't see it.
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Rebel908 said:
No reason to believe so. They have the Dev editions and to be frank, all of the companies are getting better with locking it up, or at least Motorola and Samsung are. Too much developer jargon to use but be unfortunately assured that unless someone wants to leak important code and risk their current job and all future employment in cell phone development, we won't see it.
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That's very sad to hear, thanks.
Very Sad because that will be the death of XDA as well!
Vintage144 said:
Very Sad because that will be the death of XDA as well!
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Lol
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Maybe you can buy a code to unlock ur bootloader. I know somebody is selling this code.
No such code exists for the VZW and ATT retail versions.
nwinston96 said:
Will we ever be able to unlock the bootloader for the non-dev edition on Verizon? I realize this question has likely been asked before, but was unable to find a thread. Please no hate.
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It was said by some that the eFuse on the non-developer Verizon X is blown, thus prevent its bootloader from being unlocked. I'm not sure how true this is.
One thing is certain, as has been said.. the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon can not have their bootloader unlocked. Like past moto phones, the bootloader has proved to be secure enough that no one has figured a way how.
If you want to be able to unlock the boot loader on your X, and you are a Verizon customer, your only choice is to by a Developer Edition from Moto's web site.
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iscott said:
Maybe you can buy a code to unlock ur bootloader. I know somebody is selling this code.
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I've seen SIM Unlock codes being sold, but not bootloader unlock codes. If you know of someone selling them, post a link, or information. i'm sure there are plenty of VZW users who would pay, especially since 1. there was a bounty thread, and 2. the current root and write protect disable methods for locked bootloader users don't work on 4.4.2, so they are stuck.
KidJoe said:
I've seen SIM Unlock codes being sold, but not bootloader unlock codes. If you know of someone selling them, post a link, or information. i'm sure there are plenty of VZW users who would pay, especially since 1. there was a bounty thread, and 2. the current root and write protect disable methods for locked bootloader users don't work on 4.4.2, so they are stuck.
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The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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I don't need it. I have a developer edition. So I unlocked without voiding my warranty.
I was asking because there are many who got a moto maker one instead, and for Verizon they can't unlock them even via Moto's web site. Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
iscott said:
The seller is in China. The selling page is in Chinese. I don't know where he got the unlock codes. If you are interested, you can contact him. You will get the unlock code two days later after you provided him your IMEI. I don't recommend you do this because that will void your device's warranty.
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This reminds me of this:
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/2aJKKwoNZwK
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/BAu58ukTsQU
I wonder if it's the same person or if any of it is true...
KidJoe said:
I don't need it. I have a developer edition. So I unlocked without voiding my warranty.
I was asking because there are many who got a moto maker one instead, and for Verizon they can't unlock them even via Moto's web site. Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
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This reminds me of this:
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/2aJKKwoNZwK
https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/BAu58ukTsQU
I wonder if it's the same person or if any of it is true...
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That Chinese site picture is a EU bootloader (which is unlockable), so I wouldn't trust it, but that is for someone else to decide. As far as Brenden Gonzalez posts on G+ go, the bootloader was 4.4 so it might not work on 4.4.2 bootloader, and his post has never come true either.
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Brenden GonzalezFeb 9, 2014
No this is real i gave it to a Moto x dev youll see it soon hes making a easy to use tolls out of it
I was curious if anyone tried the Chinese bootloader unlock since I would defiantly get rid of my warranty in exchange for getting my bootloader unlocked.
Cant those of us with a locked bootloader simply Safestrap 4.4.2 the same way we safestrap 4.4 right now? I am running 4.2.2 bootloader, with 4.4 safestrap atm. I believe that all we are waiting for is the firmware to drop so we can extract the 4.4.2 kernels and baseband, which can be flashed manually because they are digitally signed.
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Have you used that site before? $40 doesn't sound too unreasonable for those who might need/want it.
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It is true. Many people have unlocked their devices using the codes bought from that site.
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stillthisguy said:
That Chinese site picture is a EU bootloader (which is unlockable), so I wouldn't trust it, but that is for someone else to decide. As far as Brenden Gonzalez posts on G+ go, the bootloader was 4.4 so it might not work on 4.4.2 bootloader, and his post has never come true either.
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I've asked the seller. He said he got these codes from his friend, who works in Moto. Is it legal?
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It is true. Many people have unlocked their devices using the codes bought from that site.
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So far, no one is giving info on this except you. No offence, but as far as I'm concerned, you might be the seller (or someone affiliated to him) trying to lure users to steal their money...
I might be wrong, but just saying... I mean you're saying "Many people...", where are they? Why hasn't anyone posted that they successfully bought a code and unlocked yet?
mschumacher69 said:
So far, no one is giving info on this except you. No offence, but as far as I'm concerned, you might be the seller (or someone affiliated to him) trying to lure users to steal their money...
I might be wrong, but just saying... I mean you're saying "Many people...", where are they? Why hasn't anyone posted that they successfully bought a code and unlocked yet?
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You're totally wrong. I'm not the seller and I'm not affiliated to the seller. I'm just giving info that there is an illegal way to unlock VZW bootloader.
You hasn't seen related threads because you don't visit Chinese forum. Here is a thread.
I DON'T recommend you do this because it will void your device's warranty and it is illegal.
iscott said:
You're totally wrong. I'm not the seller and I'm not affiliated to the seller. I'm just giving info that there is an illegal way to unlock VZW bootloader.
You hasn't seen related threads because you don't visit Chinese forum. Here is a thread.
I DON'T recommend you do this because it will void your device's warranty and it is illegal.
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I said I might be wrong, all I'm saying is that until trusted people start confirming that this is legit after trying it themselves, I wouldn't believe that it is legit...
Well I called Verizon today and told them I was traveling out of country. The agreed to unlock device. My OEM Unlock used to be greyed out with the Device is Carrier Locked. After they unlocked it for me just 15 min ago the OEM Unlocking option is still greyed out but the message now reads Connect to the internet or contact your carrier. So it's still greyed out but I wonder if I try fastboot unlock if it would unlock it and make it not greyed out.
Just not sure if fastboot to oem unlock will make it work now.
Heres what the oem unlock looks now
wolfballz said:
Well I called Verizon today and told them I was traveling out of country. The agreed to unlock device. My OEM Unlock used to be greyed out with the Device is Carrier Locked. After they unlocked it for me just 15 min ago the OEM Unlocking option is still greyed out but the message now reads Connect to the internet or contact your carrier. So it's still greyed out but I wonder if I try fastboot unlock if it would unlock it and make it not greyed out.
Just not sure if fastboot to oem unlock will make it work now.
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It will not.
The toggle needs flipped to use the fastboot command.
Shoulda bought direct from Google if you want that unlocked
wolfballz said:
Heres what the oem unlock looks now
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What happens when you stick a working SIM from a different carrier in it? Until their phone is CARRIER unlocked, the oem unlocking toggle will be grayed out and it cannot be bootloader unlocked. Doubtful they would carrier unlock their phone until it was 100% paid off. You will not be able to bootloader unlock Verizon's phone until the OEM toggle is enabled, and that won't happen until their phone is carrier unlocked.... in fact they may never carrier unlock their phone.
I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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cryppie said:
I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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Preaching to the choir brother... I gave up trying to convince them. Lol
cryppie said:
I can't believe that after 3.5 years of locked Verizon Pixel bootloaders people are still talking about unlocking a locked Verizon bootloader. It's never going to happen.
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CyberpodS2 said:
Preaching to the choir brother... I gave up trying to convince them. Lol
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Then why bother responding? Don't waste your time reading it.
v12xke said:
What happens when you stick a working SIM from a different carrier in it? Until their phone is CARRIER unlocked, the oem unlocking toggle will be grayed out and it cannot be bootloader unlocked. Doubtful they would carrier unlock their phone until it was 100% paid off. You will not be able to bootloader unlock Verizon's phone until the OEM toggle is enabled, and that won't happen until their phone is carrier unlocked.... in fact they may never carrier unlock their phone.
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Going to try a friends thats on at&t's service with a paid off device and use his sim.
wolfballz said:
Going to try a friends thats on at&t's service with a paid off device and use his sim.
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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.
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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.
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People have been trying everything possible to unlock Verizon Pixel phones since they were first released. I'm not saying he shouldn't try but it's not going to work. Just like Samsung phone purchased through Verizon, the bootloader has not been unlocked on them for quite a few years.
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Meaning your device is paid off, or his? I'm not sure there are any verizon-bought Pixels that are bootloader unlocked. Once paid off, they can be carrier unlocked to use on a different service but as far as I know the only people that have a bootloader unlocked Pixel running on verizon were bought unlocked at the Google store (or got an unlocked one on by mistake on RMA). There could be exceptions, but that is generally the case. If you are paid off, and your goal is to get a carrier unlocked phone, you may well succeed. If your goal is to get to an unlocked bootloader you will likely need a different device.
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Mine isn't paid off. I did get verizon to carrier unlock the device. My friend has a unlocked pixel 4xl from google unlocked and is on at&t. Going to try his sim in my device to see if the oem toggle can be tripped.
wolfballz said:
Then why bother responding? Don't waste your time reading it.
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Because you open a thread titled Possible Verizon bootloader unlock. That is misleading to say the least. You will never unlock a Verizon bootloader. You are either trolling or just ignorant. It looks like well over 100 have viewed this misleading post. Try whatever you want but how about trying before you post to save people the time they wasted reading your useless posts?
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cryppie said:
Because you open a thread titled Possible Verizon bootloader unlock. That is misleading to say the least. You will never unlock a Verizon bootloader. You are either trolling or just ignorant. It looks like well over 100 have viewed this misleading post. Try whatever you want but how about trying before you post to save people the time they wasted reading your useless posts?
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Again, who made you read it?
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Again, who made you read it?
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He has a valid point, it's a very misleading title.
they probably only temporarily unlocked your device which won't allow OEM unlocking... this is why I am happy I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile, with a bit of nice attitude and talking to the right reps T-Mobile has unlocked every device while still making payments for the pat year for me, including my 4 XL.
Enable ESIM on pixel 4 verizon unlocked but bootloader locked
Is there a way through the developer mode to enable ESIM on a verizon pixel 4?
its unlocked to use on any carrier but not bootloader unlocked.
If there is a way and you have the steps please post.
Thanks!
wolfballz said:
Mine isn't paid off. I did get verizon to carrier unlock the device. My friend has a unlocked pixel 4xl from google unlocked and is on at&t. Going to try his sim in my device to see if the oem toggle can be tripped.
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So I am curious if you had any luck.... I also have to ask how well do you know the new files systems? I know this from 2019 but the newer phones with dual partitions as I read about learning from my pixel 2xl is that the carrier has control of OEM unlocking such as Verizon and because of this and I will say Verizon who is my carrier will play stupid and act like they know nothing about OEM unlocking and will not unlock that toggle ever due to supposed security risks to their network bands and because Verizon purchased the phones from Google , Google gives them permission to have control of the bootloader and good luck trying get any type of developer bare boned version of Android to flash... I'm not trying to bash your idea and I honestly don't know how much you really know about the dual partition file system.... I am just curious how your idea worked though I'm sure it didn't as there is just the 2 pages and nothing new posted....
I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
RBEmerson said:
I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
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If oem unlock is greyed out, you can't unlock the bootloader.
I got that far,. Some of what I've found with Google suggests this isn't cast in concrete.
I rooted a Samsung S7 from Verizon, which means "don't so much as think about it". NTL the Sammy is rooted and has been for I forget how long.
Am I even more locked out with this unit? Again, does anyone have an idea about which carrier, if any, is associated with QD1YQ? If I read it correctly, some carriers will unlock the bootloader if the owner shows up, phone in hand.
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Is this true was about to buy that model.So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
AtrixHDMan said:
Is this true was about to buy that model. So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
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I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
kfhughes said:
I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
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I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
AtrixHDMan said:
I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
kfhughes said:
I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Thanks that want happened.Maybe just save up and buy from Google directly.Thanks.
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I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Exactly! If the seller can't demonstrate OEM Unlock isn't greyed out, say "thank you". Then walk away, very far away.
About the model GD1YQ,, I couldn't find one that is unlocked. Buying from Google doesn't guarantee the thing's unlocked. AFAIK, Google is less kind about unlocking than earlier. OTOH, I could wrong about that.
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I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
bobby janow said:
Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
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What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
AtrixHDMan said:
What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
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That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
bobby janow said:
That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
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Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
AtrixHDMan said:
Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
bobby janow said:
Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
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I'll try and see.Thanks.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Try this:
Don't insert SIM, but connect to WiFi. Skip through the rest of setup. Once at the home screen, open up Phone and dial *#*#CHECKIN#*#* (*#*#2432546#*#*), you should get a notifcation that says "checkin successfull". Let the phone sit for a few minutes, then reboot and see if OEM Unlocking is enabled. If not, leave it connected to WiFi for a while and come back to it later.
WaxysDargle said:
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
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Pixel devices are set up quite differently from Samsung; individual partitions are flashed with images, rather than package files. AFAIK bootloader unlock is still required to use Odin, much as it's required to be able to issue flash commands via ADB.
Wish I'd known that. Drat. Anyway, unloaded the phone for a 4 XL which is now rooted.
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
joshspicer.com
It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
xunholyx said:
You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
you need to unlock the bootloader to use magisk v22+
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
ProjectAlly said:
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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That could be slightly deceiving. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked that's it. It does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. So technically you would need an unlockable bootloader device not merely an unlocked phone. You can buy an unlocked Verizon phone with no way of unlocking the bl as witnessed by the OP.
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
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ProjectAlly said:
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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It wasn't really meant to be critical of you, I'm sure you know all that. I've just seen too many horror stories of buying an unlocked device and not being able to bl unlock due to restrictions the carriers put on. Some have been lucky and paid off the device, begged tech support to allow bl unlock and succeeded in that request. And then there are those devices that are carrier unlocked and will never be bl unlocked like the Verizon models. So as you say, ask questions and make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
xunholyx said:
You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
JCBiznatch said:
Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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You can't just say that with no proof and think anyone will take it seriously. So prove it, we're all ears.
Hell, if that were true, I would ONLY buy Verizon phones
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Provide instructions then. You just saying it can be done without providing them is a moot comment.
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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JCBiznatch said:
Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
l7777 said:
Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update. You can think this and that is impossible, but you are sadly wrong. You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
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You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
It's sad how things like this can become so twisted and turned and convoluted. It doesn't do any good does it? None that I can see.
I'm guessing, but anyone talking about a vzw being unlockable is probably referring to someone who got a vzw 'in the box', unopened and never activated.
I just got a pix3 in that condition, and yes, remove vzw sim, boot up minimal except connect wifi, enable dev and turn on oem unlock... it does work.
But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
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Nothing about that statement is correct, sorry. It's been proved time and time again.
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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What's your definition of "hack"?
If you really can do this, why don't you offer to do it for people? I'm sure more than a few would be happy to throw you some $$ to get their Verizon devices unlocked. I did this back in the days of the HTC devices when a Java card was the only bootloader unlock method. You'd also get less blowback than effectively saying "Nah nah I know how to do this but I'm not going to tell you."
I see a few ebay listings that sell open boxed, locked Pixel 5's at a considerably lower price (around $260ish).
Those phones are locked with AT&T.
How easy/costly is it to unlock those phones? Is it worth buying them to save some money?
Also can you unlock the bootloader in those phones?
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The only pixel phones for sure that can be bootloader unlocked are from the Google store. Swappa is a good place for phones.
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The only pixel phones for sure that can be bootloader unlocked are from the Google store. Swappa is a good place for phones.
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So a Pixel that is carrier-locked means implies that it also has a locked bootloader?
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So a Pixel that is carrier-locked means implies that it also has a locked bootloader?
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Yes, you cannot unlock the bootloader if it carrier locked. Most times, not even then (Verizon for sure).
The only carrier I know of that used to allow bootloader unlocks, provided the device was not under lien, is TMobile - and even then, it's questionable as the CSRs generally don't know what you're talking about.
Don't buy smart devices on eBay if you want to be able to unlock the bootloader.