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I've been using a Galaxy S3 LTE version on 3 in the UK for the last 6-10 months. I've recently bought a HTC One 2nd hand, which came with an O2 stock ROM.
I remember when I checked initially, in 'Network mode' there were 4 options, the last one of which mentioned LTE. I did a speed test and got somewhere in the region of 10 or 11mbps.
I've now flashed two different custom ROM's and neither had those 4 options, just 2, neither mentioning LTE or 4G.
Now, I know 3 doesn't have LTE yet, but they do have DC-HSDPA, which is usually available on phones that are LTE capable.
I've just done a speed test on the HTC One and then my S3 LTE, the One score 7 mbps, the S3 10 mbps.
So, any ideas how I can get the LTE option back?
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I've been using a Galaxy S3 LTE version on 3 in the UK for the last 6-10 months. I've recently bought a HTC One 2nd hand, which came with an O2 stock ROM.
I remember when I checked initially, in 'Network mode' there were 4 options, the last one of which mentioned LTE. I did a speed test and got somewhere in the region of 10 or 11mbps.
I've now flashed two different custom ROM's and neither had those 4 options, just 2, neither mentioning LTE or 4G.
Now, I know 3 doesn't have LTE yet, but they do have DC-HSDPA, which is usually available on phones that are LTE capable.
I've just done a speed test on the HTC One and then my S3 LTE, the One score 7 mbps, the S3 10 mbps.
So, any ideas how I can get the LTE option back?
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Since you know the speed that you are getting now, have you tried flashing your M7 back to a stock rom (there are plenty of links available for you to do this) and seen what speed you get with that? If the speed is the same on a stock ROM, then you know it's not a ROM issue.
I have found a RUU that will take it back to stock, which I was thinking to try, but then as I say, I know I could get 10mbps already, is there really anything to gain doing this?
I may anyway. If I can get DC back, I would stick with that ROM and root probably.
Any links for the O2 stock ROM though? That's what I know had it.
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3 ways I knew:
1. I use an app called Network Signal Info, which shows which variant of 3G I am using (UMTS, HSDPA, HSDPA+ and DC-HSDPA). I can see that on EE I don't get DC-HSDPA where I am.
2. I was getting download speeds on 3 of 12-15 mbps.
3. The phone is advertised as having DC-HSDPA.
All One models sold in the UK are 4G. The difference appears to be that some have the 4G option disabled by the operator, but I guess this can be changed easily by a sim update by the operator.
Sorry to be a pain, but one thing I realise is H+ can give you speeds up over 10mbps, surely that's not proof that you're getting DC-HSDPA? Can you remember what Network Signal Info said in the connection type?
I was getting 15mbps on speedtests with 3 (without 4G/LTE option in settings). It's unlikely to get 15mbps on just H+, because the theoretical maximum is 21mbps (EE on H+ only gets 2mbps on a speedtest). I can't remember what Network Signal Info said the network type was, but the speed next to it said 42mbps - which is DC-HSDPA.
What speeds do you get on a speedtest?
Edit: Just seen that you say you get 10 or 11. I don't think you will get higher than that in London on DC-HSDPA. In a city centre I was getting 8-10, and 15 away from the city.
I'm just back from work, where I scored a 11mbps whilst I only had an H connection, so I was thinking maybe I am getting DC... then I've read this -
wb9999 said:
I can't remember what Network Signal Info said the network type was, but the speed next to it said 42mbps - which is DC-HSDPA.
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It definitely doesn't say 42mbps as my max in the app. If it switches to H+ it jumps to 21 max, but I've not seen 42 while I'm on the custom ROM.
wb9999 said:
Edit: Just seen that you say you get 10 or 11. I don't think you will get higher than that in London on DC-HSDPA. In a city centre I was getting 8-10, and 15 away from the city.
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10 or 11 is (was) on a DC enabled phone, with the LTE option. On a custom ROM I hadn't gotten above 7, until I got the 11 at work. I'm rather confused though if you say the app knows when you have DC. I think I need to do a bit more testing on my S3 LTE...
**EDIT** Interestingly, on my S3 it says 'HSPA (14.4Mbit/s)', so it doesn't mention DC, but has doubled up the maximum speed. HSPA+ still shows as a maximum of 21Mbit/s though.
Also, the S3 does list LTE in the 'Network mode' options.
AndyCr15 said:
I have found a RUU that will take it back to stock, which I was thinking to try, but then as I say, I know I could get 10mbps already, is there really anything to gain doing this?
I may anyway. If I can get DC back, I would stick with that ROM and root probably.
Any links for the O2 stock ROM though? That's what I know had it.
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I can't imagine it being specific to O2 (given O2 doesn't have LTE). Just flash any stock ROM.
So using the O2 stock Nandroid I got from this thread I have the LTE option back, although only 3 options in all, I recall there were 4 on the original ROM I had.
I just clocked a 12 Mbit/s download, which I think is the fastest I've seen from home. Check that, second run and I've just got 17.28 Mbps!!! That's FAR better than I've ever had before!
Network Signal Info still only says either HSDPA at 7.2 or H+ at 21.6 though
Now I just need to figure how I can apply the 1.29.206.11 OTA. I think I need to go back to stock recovery to apply it, then I hope I can come back to CWM and then root...
AndyCr15 said:
So using the O2 stock Nandroid I got from this thread I have the LTE option back, although only 3 options in all, I recall there were 4 on the original ROM I had.
I just clocked a 12 Mbit/s download, which I think is the fastest I've seen from home. Check that, second run and I've just got 17.28 Mbps!!! That's FAR better than I've ever had before!
Network Signal Info still only says either HSDPA at 7.2 or H+ at 21.6 though
Now I just need to figure how I can apply the 1.29.206.11 OTA. I think I need to go back to stock recovery to apply it, then I hope I can come back to CWM and then root...
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So do any of the ROMs currently available support DC-HSPDA? I am on t-mobile and noticed that i was getting H+ but no DC-HSPDA speeds when using any rom other than stock
Hello.
I previously had a Galaxy S3 and always had excellent 3G reception.
A couple of month ago, I upgraded to a HTC One, international variant.
The problem is that I no longer have 3G where I used to. I have tried several radios and changed preferred network to WCDMA. Most time I am connected to edge, but 3G works in certain areas.
Do have any other suggestion I might try?
By the way, I bought the unit from Amazon and received with a TIM (Italian carrier) ROM, which I changed to Trickdroid.
Oskr989 said:
Hello.
I previously had a Galaxy S3 and always had excellent 3G reception.
A couple of month ago, I upgraded to a HTC One, international variant.
The problem is that I no longer have 3G where I used to. I have tried several radios and changed preferred network to WCDMA. Most time I am connected to edge, but 3G works in certain areas.
Do have any other suggestion I might try?
By the way, I bought the unit from Amazon and received with a TIM (Italian carrier) ROM, which I changed to Trickdroid.
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get a new sim card
dirtbikerr450 said:
get a new sim card
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Yes, I was thinking about doing that, but I get 3G with other devices, where I don't whit the HTC One.
But will give it a try. Thanks.
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
Similar issue, just using TMO. I sent feedback to Samsung regarding the U1's network perf, as well as other concerns. Keep in mind that software improvements can take months to appear in updates.
rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
Then tap Phone Information, then Set Preferred Network Type to Global. This will take away LTE, but in my experience, I get a great HSPA+ signal. You won't notice a big difference in speed between HSPA+ and LTE, unless you are downloading big files.
I believe that this setting resets to the original setting when you reboot the phone. But just to be safe, take a screenshot of the setting before you change it. That way you can go back to LTE if you want.
lyall29 said:
Try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
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The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.
Ace42 said:
The unlocked FW does not respond to this dialer code. That has been the case since the S8/N8. You'd need another way to access the testing menu.
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It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.
lyall29 said:
It worked for me. I purchased the unlocked s10e from Best Buy.
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On S10+ it ignores it. Could be from their carrier files for TMO.
Network app still works, guess the dialer was altered to ignore it by CSC.
I'm using the SM-G973U1 that I got from the States on the Telus network in Canada and I can confirm I also get poor reception. I get better reception with my GS7 Edge.
I didn't get great reception with my S9 while home and I believe my S10 unlocked may be worse. In certain rooms I'm not sure I could even make calls without wifi calling. My wife's Galaxy J7 gets 3 more bars than my S10.
Any idea if this is a general S10 issue? Debating whether to get the AT&T S10. Don't want to get it if it's going to have the same issue.
Good data and reception was the only reason for me to consider US snapdragon S10, glad I went with Exynos then as it can't be that worse.
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?
For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?
santhi4110 said:
I also faced the poor reception issue on unlocked S10+ with T-Mobile, but after flashing the T-Mobile firmware with odin the signal reception is very good. With T-mobile firmware now I'm getting at least 2 to 3 poles more, now I need too live with T-mobile bloat :crying:
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You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
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VICosPhi said:
For any of you with bad reception, can you check the actual decibels (dB levels) for signal instead looking at the count of signal bars on unlocked U1 model?
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Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.
daniel4653 said:
You can keep u1 firmware and just flash TMobile modem. I did this with my S8 and S9 with ATT.
Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try this option once I get a chance
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
Will you still recieve tmo OTA updates?
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AFAIK OTA updates will be fine, to check this we need to wait until next OTA
rmrl2008 said:
My wife complains that she gets very bad reception with her unlocked s10. She didn't have this issue with her AT&T S8. Are there settings that I should change so that the phone works better on the AT&T network?
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I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software
Let1107 said:
I got the same problem with my s10+.... I hope samsung fix it through software
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When I was going through the Pie beta on my Galaxy S9, this was a concern that many of us voiced to Samsung support. We we're given a cookie cutter answer of "we will look into it". Don't get your hopes up.
Tel864 said:
Just sitting in one spot and rotating the phone in various directions mine will range from - 117dBm to - 105dBm. I know exactly where the tower is I'm hitting and as long as the back of the phone points at that tower I'm good.
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Interesting.... do you have any others phones to compare to see how bad S10 signal levels are?
Hey guys
I'm currently in the possession of the OnePlus 5 and this phone has a bad 3G reception in germany. On 3G the data often has some dropouts which is very annoying (take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-issue-h-network-t3658071)
I'm thinking about changing to the Mi 9 and i want to know about the 3G reception of this phone.
Does this phone has any problems or dropouts?
Nope, but i'm in UK!!!!
Blumdum said:
Hey guys
I'm currently in the possession of the OnePlus 5 and this phone has a bad 3G reception in germany. On 3G the data often has some dropouts which is very annoying (take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-issue-h-network-t3658071)
I'm thinking about changing to the Mi 9 and i want to know about the 3G reception of this phone.
Does this phone has any problems or dropouts?
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That's a very hard question to answer, since various telecom operators may give different results.
I did not have troubles like that with my OP3 (in HK), and I moved since to Switzerland, and was using an OP6 until recently (gave it to my wife), now I use the Mi9 and the reception quality seems about the same with the same SIM card, going to the same places, etc.
I never experienced the data connection cut so it's hard to be 100% sure...
I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
Terasman210 said:
I have an up to date verizon note 9 although still paying for it I had it on their service for over 6 months so legally allowed to use on another service currently using it on cricket with no issues other than no VOlte which I've never had with cricket no matter what phone because I won't use the phones they have because I don't like them but that's another story....Since I can't get volte on my Verizon model note 9 that's fully updated for US I was wanting to switch to tmobile...I was set up with a sim card on their magenta plus plan worked great till I got to my home which is in a more rural area but did show verified coverage at driveway on their map I had no signal so I went to settings searched for mobile networks found tmobile listed registered and it connected like 2 bars LTE but within min lost service did it again lost service again while I had lte I was able to call and use data...so my question is could this be me using a verizon phone for it not latching on by itself or holding the signal I know note 9 has the 600mhz band but was wandering if I went ahead and got a tmobile phone if it would actually latch on and hold the signal that Verizon's addons and changing is playing well with tmobile...UNLESS someone can tell me how to get VOlte on cricket with this note 9 then I wouldn't need tmobile then 3g calling has went to crap over a year....thankyou for any input
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All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
Jammol said:
All N960U and N960U1 devices are EXACTLY the same. The only difference between the devices is software.
Flash the software for the carrier your running including the Userdata for you Note 9. It should work for all features especially on T-Mobile. T-Movile fully allows unlocked devices on their network whereas Verizon doesn't. I'm pretty sure at&t is like Verizon through when it comes to unlocked devices, and they own cricket so that rule probably trickles down to them as well.
You can get all carrier version of software for your Note 9 on samfirm or sammobile
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But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
Terasman210 said:
But my question would be would my phone latch on to tmobile towers using tmobile firmware better than my current state using verizon firmware I'm excluding wifi calling and volte just trying to determine if I would have a difference in service availability picking up towers and holding them with stronger lte signal or if it's just poor coverage both ways and will be no different than you for your advice as well
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You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
Jammol said:
You will not have a difference in coverage. T-Mobile did the same thing with where I live and listed it on their map as being fully covered. I barely get LTE at my house or anywhere in my neighborhood.
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Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
Terasman210 said:
Okay thank you for saving me the trouble of doing firmware swap or just buying a phone from them just to try and have same result and have to return....man I wish cricket would sell the note 10 or 9 where I could get the volte...but thankyou for your time
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You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
gruuvin said:
You will never know until you try it, so why not try it and find out? Make it an SM-N960U1. Debloated and ready to go with any sim you install. Flash the unbranded firmware that can work on any of the US providers. That's what I have, and when I loaded a T-Mobile sim, I got VoLTE and wifi calling. I've run a lot of custom firmwares in the past, but this is the best phone and firmware combo I've ever had. And it's pure stock.
Also, this stock One UI with dark mode is very slick. VERY! No Substratum, no themes, no fuss. Just clean and black.
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His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
Jammol said:
His goal is better service reception.
Only the carrier can fix that by actually providing the coverage they put on their maps.
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Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
gruuvin said:
Lots of people have reported better or worse quality service, all other things equal except for firmware/software: different radios enabled/disabled; different optimizations. I just read another thread where someone got better tmobile reception at his house after flashing tmobile software over US unlocked software. There are more variables than just the carrier side of things.
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Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
Terasman210 said:
Thankyou then that kinda answers my question that although phones are equal between verizon version and unlocked internally and firmware being the difference that using a tmobile phone with their firmware I'd stand the best chance of service and since my area uses extended range area I would probably have a better experience than on my note 9 verizon...thankyou again
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Yes. I think it may make no difference at all, or it might (much to gain, but nothing to lose), but most of the evidence in these forums, when it comes to connection quality, is extremely variable and anecdotal. Nobody can know an answer to this kind of question, unless they test it out for themselves. Good luck!