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Two scammers in one day

So I'm attempting to buy an iPad to use it to show clients photos, instead of printing portfolios. So I turn to good ol' craigslist. Got 2 scam replies. I see they are getting more clever. lol.
#1:
Hey, sorry for the delayed response, but someone already bought the iPad and
picked it up. You might want to try and buy one where I bought mine at. It's
an auction site kind of like ebay that has quite a few iPads.
I am usually able to pick them up there between $130 and $160, I think it's so
cheap because the site is newer and there aren't many bidders yet. Anyways,
I'd recommend you shop there if your still in need of an iPad. The site is
called BIDSAROO.com. I just checked and it looks like they have one
ending soon and the bid is at $53 so far.
When I signed up they gave me this coupon to give to friends, but I haven't used
it yet. Your more than welcome to use it, but I think it expires tomorrow. It's
good for placing some free bids on any auction. The coupon is: free3042
Hope this helps you!
-Chad
P.S. Here is a little secret I'll pass on to you. Right now there is a glitch/hack
on the site that will allow you to block other people from bidding on the item.
When you place a bid, hold down the enter key until the auction counts down to 0.
This should allow you to win any auction instantly. But I'm not sure how long it
last, I'm sure the site is working on fixing the glitch/hack.
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#2:
Hi, I am getting back to you regarding the 64GB 3G iPad from Craigslist
My name is Arianna and I am now in Wolverhampton, United Kingdom.
I am selling the ipad for $450 USD. I have attached some pics with it to this email.
The ipad is still available and I hope you are still interested. The ipad was bought brand new from Apple a few weeks ago.
About the ipad I can say it's in perfect shape, as I used it only for a few weeks. Included in the $450 price is everything that came with the ipad.
The ipad is here with me.
I tried to be as thorough as I could with the presentation so you can have all the info if you decide to go ahead and buy it.
Please get back to me and let me know if you like the ipad if you're really interested in buying it.
Thanks,
Arianna
Chief Logistic Officer
www.bluechipremovals.co.uk
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Both of these were found under NYC

how ya kno the 2nd ones a scam

souljaboy said:
how ya kno the 2nd ones a scam
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Included in the $450 price is everything that came with the ipad.
The ipad is here with me.

Also he ad was for a 32gb iPod. lol

Cucoo said:
Included in the $450 price is everything that came with the ipad.
The ipad is here with me.
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Wow, I really didn't notice that the first time, scary >.<

AdrianK said:
Wow, I really didn't notice that the first time, scary >.<
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Still don't get it!

flyboyovyick said:
Still don't get it!
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+1
Please explain for those of us who's brains are dead

flyboyovyick said:
Still don't get it!
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"Included in the $450 price is everything that came with the ipad"
Your $450 gets you *only* what came with the iPad, not the iPad itself.
"the ipad is here with me"
They're just hoping you'll skim over that since it doesn't really make any sense, not until you get the first part anyway...
Deception is fraud, so even though it doesn't say you're actually buying an iPad what they're doing is against the law.

Well also I am in nyc so how would she sell it to me if she's in England?
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Ah clever ...
But doesn't it say
I am selling the ipad for $450 USD.
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AdrianK said:
"Included in the $450 price is everything that came with the ipad"
Your $450 gets you *only* what came with the iPad, not the iPad itself.
"the ipad is here with me"
They're just hoping you'll skim over that since it doesn't really make any sense, not until you get the first part anyway...
Deception is fraud, so even though it doesn't say you're actually buying an iPad what they're doing is against the law.
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ahh... thanks for the explanation

The fact they claim to be in the uk, yet price in usd is a bit of a giveaway to be honest.

pulser_g2 said:
The fact they claim to be in the uk, yet price in usd is a bit of a giveaway to be honest.
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gotta disagree on that, many user on xda for example put USD and EURO even tho they are in the UK. i do that on Ebay also.

Not being able to do it in person is generally a red flag for me that it's a scam. I couldn't care less if the message comes from the Queen of England.

PoisonWolf said:
Not being able to do it in person is generally a red flag for me that it's a scam. I couldn't care less if the message comes from the Queen of England.
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Wouldnt surprise me if it was her............
They've got a wedding to pay for after all........

conantroutman said:
Wouldnt surprise me if it was her............
They've got a wedding to pay for after all........
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Haha Lmao!!!!!!

conantroutman said:
Wouldnt surprise me if it was her............
They've got a wedding to pay for after all........
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Oh no she dont need that she got a huge cut in the gold/drug/diamond industry ..
The queen of england is a gangster
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How To Start A Case Company?

Where do companies like iBlason and Poetic get there products? I know they're from China, but what about websites? All these companies seem to be selling the same thing on Amazon. What website do they come from? Any ideas on starting a company similar to Poetic and iBlason?

You want to start a case company?
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They buy them from factories.
Maybe take a look at Alibaba.com
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Josepho1997 said:
You want to start a case company?
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Not really, I'm just curious bout how they do it.

veeman said:
They buy them from factories.
Maybe take a look at Alibaba.com
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Is this the main place or any others. It just amazes me how fast some of these companies get this stuff up on Amazon.

Nxxx said:
Not really, I'm just curious bout how they do it.
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Oh. Cause the title said "How to start a case company". I was confused.
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Just like any business you need capital to build inventory before you can do anything else, and just because you have inventory doesn't mean you can move it. If you don't understand the business world you really should do some research before you lose a lot of money.

063_XOBX said:
Just like any business you need capital to build inventory before you can do anything else, and just because you have inventory doesn't mean you can move it. If you don't understand the business world you really should do some research before you lose a lot of money.
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The idea is to ship through Amazon. I'm just curious, that's all. It's just one of those things I would like to do if I had the time and money.

Nxxx said:
The idea is to ship through Amazon. I'm just curious, that's all. It's just one of those things I would like to do if I had the time and money.
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Yes, but what would you ship? You need an inventory before you could even begin to consider selling anything. A customer isn't going to wait for you to order their purchase then for it to ship to them.

063_XOBX said:
Yes, but what would you ship? You need an inventory before you could even begin to consider selling anything. A customer isn't going to wait for you to order their purchase then for it to ship to them.
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I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,

Nxxx said:
I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,
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Oh no. You shouldn't have said that...
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Josepho1997 said:
Oh no. You shouldn't have said that...
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You're right I probably shouldn't have.

Nxxx said:
I AM NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS YET. DID YOU SEE MY LAST SEVERAL POSTS??? I'm just asking for some advice. I've seen your other posts. All you do is go trolling around this forum trying to piss people off. I can go on if you want, but the truth is that I'm just asking do for advice,
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That was advice. If you're considering entering into the sales world you need realistic expectations. Having to build up inventory is part of those. Whatever, good luck with your plans, I was simply trying to offer some of my experience since that was something I have some expertise in.

063_XOBX said:
That was advice. If you're considering entering into the sales world you need realistic expectations. Having to build up inventory is part of those. Whatever, good luck with your plans, I was simply trying to offer some of my experience since that was something I have some expertise in.
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Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.

Nxxx said:
Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.
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It REALLY sounds like that.
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Nxxx said:
Really? What's your expertise? I'm not trying to be a *** here even though it may read like it.
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A little under a year maintaining inventory for the US warehouse for a Brazilian shipping company called So' Danca that specializes in dance wear but sells almost everything. Not having enough inventory has been the #1 problem "we've" run into. Customer's are typically less than thrilled to hear they have to wait to receive their order since it's out of stock.

063_XOBX said:
A little under a year maintaining inventory for the US warehouse for a Brazilian shipping company called So' Danca that specializes in dance wear but sells almost everything. Not having enough inventory has been the #1 problem "we've" run into. Customer's are typically less than thrilled to hear they have to wait to receive their order since it's out of stock.
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Yeah, waiting for products to ship sucks. Thanks for the advice though. How much money do you think it would take to jump start something like this?
Edit: going to sleep now and will reply to everything in the morning.

Nxxx said:
Yeah, waiting for products to ship sucks. Thanks for the advice though. How much money do you think it would take to jump start something like this?
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Honestly? A lot. There are hundreds of different Android devices you'd have to accommodate for. The only way to even realistically start would be with iPhone cases. Wide spread popularity and only one model to have to maintain inventory for.
If you insisted on specializing in Android phones you'd need to pick a few popular models (like the S3) and start small with them.

063_XOBX said:
Honestly? A lot. There are hundreds of different Android devices you'd have to accomodate for. The only way to even realistically start would be with iPhone cases. Wide spread popularity and only one model to have to maintain inventory for.
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What do you think the are minimum would be? 10k?

Nxxx said:
What do you think the are minimum would be? 10k?
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Maybe. Depends on a few factors. How much you're ordering determines both the unit price and the profit on each item. Obviously wholesale pricing is cheaper but that requires larger starting capital, which isn't always realistic. There's no reason to order 10,000 units if you're not even sure you can move 500 and be stuck with 9,500 cases that diminish in value when a new model comes out. You should expect to wind up losing a significant amount of money until you get some real data on what sells and how much of it sells around the time of year you're ordering it (hint, Christmas has a huge effect on sales).

[Q] Buying Used Nexus 6, What To Look For?

I've found a couple on Craigslist that look to be in great shape. I'm not concerned about software, I'll flash it immediately. However how can I be sure the phone is legit? Are there any scams that I should be aware of? I've never bought a used smartphone so I don't exactly know what to look for, if anything.
Thanks for any advice!

ripeart said:
I've found a couple on Craigslist that look to be in great shape. I'm not concerned about software, I'll flash it immediately. However how can I be sure the phone is legit? Are there any scams that I should be aware of? I've never bought a used smartphone so I don't exactly know what to look for, if anything.
Thanks for any advice!
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First, read this thread and be aware of the risks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104504

1) Try swappa.com instead. It is dedicated to phone sales, provides some minimal intermediation, and vets the serial number of the phones listed.
2) Make sure the prior owner has not just done a factory reset on the phone, but also has removed his Google account from the security setup. (A new feature in Android 5.1.) If he did not do this, the device will be unusable to you.

Fantastic, thank you for that info.

ripeart said:
However how can I be sure the phone is legit?!
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'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.

NLBeev said:
'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.
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I bought many phones om Marktplaats.nl and i never had problems with `used`phones. I however only bought them if the seller had the bill of purchase and most we`re issued after a contract renewal.

gee2012 said:
I bought many phones om Marktplaats.nl and i never had problems with `used`phones. I however only bought them if the seller had the bill of purchase and most we`re issued after a contract renewal.
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Hi Gee.. Yes, I know marktplaats (the Dutch eBay),
Many are happy, a few disappointed.
I know 1 disappointed person.

NLBeev said:
Hi Gee.. Yes, I know marktplaats (the Dutch eBay),
Many are happy, a few disappointed.
I know 1 disappointed person.
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With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most phones i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far

NLBeev said:
'Legit' is the not the main thing to worry about.
My personal view is: don't buy a used smartphone.
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Care to comment why?

gee2012 said:
With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far
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When the price is low, and under the conditions you described, I agree with you.
But in general my view is, better a cheaper phone new, than a high range used phone.

NLBeev said:
When the price is low, and under the conditions you described, I agree with you.
But in general my view is, better a cheaper phone new, than a high range used phone.
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Often is that when it sounds too good to be true it usualy is

ripeart said:
Care to comment why?
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1. Smartphones are complex devices. Repair is not always possible. When possible it is expensive.
Smartphones can stop working suddenly.
2. Misuse. You don't know if the used phone is handled with care. For instance dropping and/or contact with water *no warranty repair*.
3. Battery not 100%. Many warranty contracts exclude battery, or a limit of 3 or 6 months.
Not all phones have a removable back. Easy battery replacement not possible.
4. Security block. Since Lollipop the phone could be blocked. There are several posts about that.
5. Bootloader is relocked. Also several posts about problems.
6. A few months after introduction many phones become cheaper.
The main point is the warranty. Here in Europe it is 2 years and mostly 6 months for the battery.
When there is something is wrong the dealer is responsible for replacement/repair.

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Yes, all true. That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones. (Also why used cars are cheaper than new cars.) It's all part of supply and demand in the marketplace.
Overall, I have had mostly good experiences buying and selling several used phones. This is especially true lately with the onset of swappa.com (see linked icon at the top of the xda-developers web page) which is dedicated to phones, more transparent than eBay or Craigslist and has a baseline of protections for buyer and seller.
Sometimes I buy new. Sometimes I buy used. When I buy new, it is nice to know that there will be a robust secondary marketplace for that depreciating asset when I am ready for something else.

boomerbubba said:
Yes, all true. That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones. (Also why used cars are cheaper than new cars.) It's all part of supply and demand in the marketplace.
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I think better not compare phones with cars. But I know what you mean.
For me it is not 'black' or 'white'.
It is a point of view and a risk.
And when it concerns used phones the risk is the price. But when someone ask me I will tell him/her 'better buy new'.

gee2012 said:
With these deals its not about the phone initaly, its about trusting the seller and if i trust that person i move on to focus on the phone. Most phones i got personaly and a few we`re sent to me and i never had a problem so far
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You must read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
After reading, I had to change my idea 'don't buy a used phone' to 'don't buy or sell a used phone'.
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That is why used phones are cheaper than new phones.
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Interesting thread about scamming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611

Yeah but a said i mainly buy a phone in person and i pick it up at the sellers home, seldomly i have it mailed to me

NLBeev said:
You must read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
After reading, I had to change my idea 'don't buy a used phone' to 'don't buy or sell a used phone'.
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Interesting thread about scamming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/scammed-time-selling-swappa-t3152611
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Yes that is an interesting thread, which I note is now closed by the mods, who sent the poster to Swappa to handle this instead of trying to litigate this at XDA. IMHO, if this seller was scammed as he says, his mistake was not following Swappa's policy in the first place, notifying Swappa staff immediately before refunding the money.
Swappa policy states:
Seller may void a sale if they suspect fraud on the part of the buyer. In events of suspected fraud the seller must notify Swappa immediately.
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boomerbubba said:
Yes that is an interesting thread, which I note is now closed by the mods, who sent the poster to Swappa. . . :
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I would like to know more, but I understand the mods. This forum is about technology.
The closed thread it still usefull for anyone who wants something with used phones.
I am curious how Swappa handled this case.

NLBeev said:
I would like to know more, but I understand the mods. This forum is about technology.
The closed thread it still usefull for anyone who wants something with used phones.
I am curious how Swappa handled this case.
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I'm curious, too. But Swappa may not be able to help because the seller apparently failed to follow Swappa's established procedure for resolving such disputes at the outset. He might still take his complaint to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, since USPS reportedly was used by the buyer to ship back the alleged return. Postal fraud is a serious criminal offense, over which that agency has jurisdiction. That provides some deterrence against fraud, but of course does not provide victims any compensation.
As for this thread, the lesson to be learned is: If you use Swappa to buy or sell, follow the rules. And if you suspect fraud, follow the established process.

AT&T just pulled out of Selling Mate 10 :(

http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw28KXtzM
That’s a shame.

ekerbuddyeker said:
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw28KXtzM
That’s a shame.
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Dang! I was hoping to rebrand to AT&T. If Tmobile steps in that would a actually be better for me but I won't get my hopes up...

mscion said:
Dang! I was hoping to rebrand to AT&T. If Tmobile steps in that would a actually be better for me but I won't get my hopes up...
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Politicians got involved!

Another site is reporting that at&t received a memo from the FCC, that the Senate & House intelligence committees "raising fresh concerns" about Huawei's plans to launch consumer products through a major U.S. telecom carrier. It cited an intelligence committee report on Huawei's alleged ties to the Communist party as well as China's intelligence & security services.
Seriously? What Chinese business DOESN'T have ties to the Chinese communist party? If they don't, you think they would be allowed to be in business? Plus, what smartphone ISN'T made in China these days? At&t got cold feet because the FCC can put the hurt on them for pretty much anything, and since the house/senate control the FCC purse strings, they go along with it, not to mention it would NOT surprise me one bit if there was a little Apple/Samsung K-street lobbying money being shuffled around to "urge" this memo from the house/senate.
Heck, all phones spy on you, and people click TOS's like nothing. We gave up privacy decades ago...willingly. Sad, but true.

Note 8 Download Mode

I purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 SM-N950 Android version 7.0 & want to use it for Verizon. I've been trying to flash the verizon firmware onto this note 8 but when i try to go into download mode this happens:
https://streamable.com/1h7xs
Don't know what to do from here... I've watched videos on going into download mode in the note 8 and no one seems to be having this issue.

Oh man.. Note8 is 7.1.1 btw.
And judging by that huge bottom bezel and MTK testing menu...
You bought a fake Note8..
I'm so sorry..

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I purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 SM-N950 Android version 7.0 & want to use it for Verizon. I've been trying to flash the verizon firmware onto this note 8 but when i try to go into download mode this happens:
https://streamable.com/1h7xs
Don't know what to do from here... I've watched videos on going into download mode in the note 8 and no one seems to be having this issue.
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It's fake man
Try get your money back and contact seller.

The first clue should have been the bezels, the second clue note 8 come with 7.1.1, sorry for you

How much did you pay for it ? Craig's list?
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How much did you pay for it ? Craig's list?
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Yep, $300. I had an iPhone for a while now and decided to switch back to android. I should've done my research. It says "SM-N930P" on the back of the phone.

DejoN10 said:
Yep, $300. I had an iPhone for a while now and decided to switch back to android. I should've done my research. It says "SM-N930P" on the back of the phone.
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Currently putting a kidney up for sale to buy the iPhone X lol...

DejoN10 said:
Currently putting a kidney up for sale to buy the iPhone X lol...
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How much for the kidney? You can use "swappa" to sell it .

You bought a fake note7.

DejoN10 said:
Yep, $300. I had an iPhone for a while now and decided to switch back to android. I should've done my research. It says "SM-N930P" on the back of the phone.
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A Note 8 selling for $300 didn't ring red flags to you? You won't find anywhere that cheap right now a legit one. If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
Craigslist? Oh your screwed on getting money back. There's fishy people on there. Stay away from craigslist.
FB, Offerup, Letgo, ebay, etc way better. Some knock offs can go for a decent amount. See how much your fake one going for. Post online and let people know its fake. Might be able to get a decent amount of your money back. Seller should of told you regardless.

I’ve accepted my loss lol, I was too naive. I figured if anything someone was going to straight up rob me, not sell me a fake phone. I saw a few of them selling between 300-400, they were all probably scams. It sells for like $90. This knockoff can be used on T-Mobiles network? Might just donate it to someone.

DejoN10 said:
I’ve accepted my loss lol, I was too naive. I figured if anything someone was going to straight up rob me, not sell me a fake phone. I saw a few of them selling between 300-400, they were all probably scams. It sells for like $90. This knockoff can be used on T-Mobiles network? Might just donate it to someone.
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Oh well, onwards and upwards. Just put it behind you as I'm sure your already sure you already have. Good luck.
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DejoN10 said:
I’ve accepted my loss lol, I was too naive. I figured if anything someone was going to straight up rob me, not sell me a fake phone. I saw a few of them selling between 300-400, they were all probably scams. It sells for like $90. This knockoff can be used on T-Mobiles network? Might just donate it to someone.
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Don't trust people ever online that you don't know. There's always wolfs out there. Don't be a sheep. Be smart. I literally put in my mind everybody is a thief. Although I would love for someone to try to rob me with force. I will help them to hell with my glock 45.
Once again stay far away from craigslist. Yeah donate it to women batter shelter. Claim on your taxes.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard bad things about craigslist. Fake money, robbery, broke products, fake stuff, scams, etc. That site full of scum bags. Delete app and never use again use.

Nick216ohio said:
Don't trust people ever online that you don't know. There's always wolfs out there. Don't be a sheep. Be smart. I literally put in my mind everybody is a thief. Although I would love for someone to try to rob me with force. I will help them to hell with my glock 45.
Once again stay far away from craigslist. Yeah donate it to women batter shelter. Claim on your taxes.
I can't tell you how many times I've heard bad things about craigslist. Fake money, robbery, broke products, fake stuff, scams, etc. That site full of scum bags. Delete app and never use again use.
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I got G22 RTF 2 , but wouldn't use it over a phone
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Limeybastard said:
I got G22 RTF 2 , but wouldn't use it over a phone
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Nice 40. Cal. You can't go wrong with glock. Such a great gun. Definitely most reliable semi pistol hands down.