td really appreciate if anyone could help, as ive posted before with no success. Im using a haicom gps mouse, but my problem is software. Pocket streets sucks, ive purchased Gpsdash, which is grea, but has no maps bundled. Problem is, i live in ireland, and i believe that a lot of packages dont have good mapping here. So can anyone please advise me, or send screenshots etc. on which package to buy?
There is nothing mainstream that covers Ireland that I have found.
http://www.destinator1.com/
Covers Ireland
I have destinator, Ireland is very poorly served the same as Smartst pro, it gives very little info.
xdeire, send me a message, I may have found what you need in the form of the new software and maps that include Ireland, it is by Navtech and I even found my old address in Waterford. I am running it on the Medion xscale WM2003 ppc which comes with the kit so it should work on xda, it isnt sold seperately but I dont think that is a problem. It also has voice directions/
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Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
It is currently not compatiable with Kaiser and they are aware of the problem.
When you close the program or tell it to disconnect from GPS it locks up your device.
I can confirm this behavior as I spent the money to buy it. Wasable to convince Best Buy to accept it back. DeLorme offered to refund my purchase price in the event that Best Buy wouldn't allow the return.
Good company that has been doing maps for a long time, I hope they sort the problem out quickly.
I looked at it due to the price and thought that it would be a great buy, but the reviews on Amazon were less than steller. Several reviewers complained the maps were not up to date, but the big thing that sold me away from it was a mention elsewhere that "within the desktop application, you actually select and create a map for a specific circumstance." http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,56666&start=2
What if I'm already away from home and need to get directions? That won't for for me, sorry. I guess I'll shell out the big bucks for TomTom or similar.
They offer a 30 day mbg. I got my check yesterday. It's a nice program but doesn't play nice with the tilt. It was also missing a feature i like, directions by gps position. You always had to give it a start and end, with Tomtom or WLS you can just tell the program to start where you currently are.
agoyeneche said:
Has anyone used Delorme Street Atlas USA with the Kaiser? It looks like a decent alternative to Tom Tom...
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It is not, by any means, a decent alternative.
Its user interface is extremely clunky, and it is SLOW. POI Search and routing on-device is essentially useless in SA2006HH and all indications I have seen say that SA2008HH is no better. DeLorme couldn't even get it right with the PN-20.
That said - if you need topographic maps on a PDA, DeLorme is the way to go. I use TomTom for driving, and once SA2008HH gets fixed for the Kaiser I will be upgrading to 2008HH from 2006HH (which worked well with an external BT GPS on my Hermes.) for topo capability.
Here I am playing nice, searching and finding an old topic to resurrect instead of starting a new one...
I have an old (2002) version of Delorme Xmap for pocket PC.
I just loaded it up today on my tilt, I already had prepared maps for the Northwest USA so I added those.
The program started up, I changed the settings to look at port 4 and since I had started my GPS with GPSTest it found the device and located my position very quickly.
Here is the reason I am posting:
I see they have version 2009 out now and it looks pretty good.
However if it causes lockups on the Kaiser then I should not buy it.
Still - for $40 it seems you get a lot.
http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtdItemDetail.jsp?item=27867§ion=10120
I have the 2005 version with both streets and topo maps, it ran just fine on my Hermes (AT&T 8525) with a bluetooth GPS receiver but would never run right on my Kaiser (AT&T TILT). Being an avid outsdoorsman I miss my topo maps but, have found an alturnative, freeware called TGPS, it takes a little more work to setup and install maps but it works great.
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
burtcom said:
I have version 2009 -- it works perfectly fine on the kaiser
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Thanks Burtcom - just what I needed to hear.
Is it also fast? Or sluggish?
resonably fast -- except when you first zoom out to level 5 or higher. It can take a while to render the map at that level -- then its fast enough for the rest of the session.
It depends on how much info you've saved in the maps, though.
I tree to keep maps exported to the Kaiser about 1 to 2 MB in size, though I do have a 14MB map of much of the Western US, levels 5 to 9 or so, that has decent performance
I have recently purchased an Orange TNTY II which did not come with the Tom Tom Software and would like to know where to buy it from. Have seen that the HTC site has it for £70 but states that it can only be use=d on one particular screen so am a little lost as to where I can get the full european maps from. Can anyone help please
well, I've just got my TyTN II this morning, and haven't installed Tom Tom yet, but had it on my Universal which I bought from www.tomtom.com - it installs through the TomTom home application which you can download to your PC.
hope this helps.
There are, of course, always "other ways" of getting TomTOM
And for your benifit (i.e. when searching), the phone is called "TYTN II" not "TNTY"
Thanks for the help guys and apologies for calling it the TNTY and not the TYTN. I have dyslexic fingers when I type.
Will see what I can find out from various sites.
Cheers and take it easy
I've put TomTom on my Tilt, and I'm curious about a few things.
BlueTooth
Natively not being able to hear it through my Blue Tooth headset (Motorola 700) I installed the BT Audio referenced in another thread. It works, except if you do anything else, such as take a call, use MS Voice command, etc, you then need to re-enable it, which is annoying.
Does using another BT device, such as a stereo headset, work better with Tomtom?
TomTom Plus Stuff
Has anyone in the U.S. purchased any of their services, in particular Points of INterest, and found them of any value? I find the included POI to be a little skimpy (as have others per threads I've read). IN particular, I'm interested in the JiWire HotSpots.
Not in the US but i've definatley found that the speed camera POI's to be a good investment.
Just passed my Driving test (ok im a later starter at 34) a couple of weeks ago so anything that will help me avoid points on my license must be a good thing.
Actually used TomTom on my Kaiser properly for the first time today whilst having to drive up the back roads to Manchester and it worked really well apart from departing once when it decided to think it was flying all around the country (soft reset fixed it though)
I use the TomTom Plus Traffic and it works pretty well. I've been able to avoid long traffic delays/etc very easily with it. I find it to be pretty accurate.
As for POI, I normally install my own. You can search on Google for POIs and you will find a few sites that allows you to create POI files with data.
Thanks for the suggestin on Googling POIs. I don't know why I hadn't thought of that yet.
BTW...the reason I ask about "in the U.S.", is because I can imagine the software, programming and devices may be well supported in Europe, but it seems not necessarily in the U.S. I don't want to purchase something , then find it only works in Europe. They definitely seem to be more up to date in Europe on this product.
Does anyboddy know if you could share the GPS info over BlueTooth? Like connect another device to it and use the TyTN II as a GPS receiver only to send the information over bluetooth to say a TyTN I or I-Mate JasJar that does not have GPS? Try that...................
gps2blue?
Something like this?
http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
TomTom in USA
Hi,
I bought my Hermes in the UK. I took it to the US in August 2007. I simply loaded the US maps up before I went, arrived, switched on and had no problems in both California and NY.
Can't see it would be different for Kaiser.
Cheers
Hi All
Before you think about a Sat Nav package for your diamond be aware that there is an issue with HTC Touch Diamonds and Copilot live 7.0. If you install the product the routing becomes (to put it politely) eratic and insane, avoiding motorways and taking B roads instead of A roads and it doesn't take advantage of the Diamond's two tier geo positioning.
The issue is you need a new version (not bad news you say? - you have to pay full price for it!)
If you have already purchased your copy for PDA and are intending to transfer the license you now have to buy a whole new license! There is no upgrade for existing users
- BOOOOO HISSSSSS ALK.COM!!!!!!!! Update: There is no need to buy the new version - ALK Support are trying to resolve the isssue
UPDATE: 23-Aug-08
ALK Support have now offered a refund as the issue I have turns out not to require the purchase of a new version of software (but there is still no upgrade for previous versions on the site [yet]) for the device although their support team sent that as a resolution - see later in this thread.
Yours
Leon
You don't need a new version. Copilot can be moved from device to device. In the product you can deactivate from one device and apply to another.
I don't have the routing issues you are talking about either.
I don't have the issues you mentioned but mine is a recently purchased Diamond edition. I doubt there are many differences between the two CoPilot Live 7 versions.
I Installed the version that came with my Orbit 2 (Not sure if it was v6 or v7) and it seemed to work fine, Once Copilot Central was installed on my PC it automatically updated it with new features (definatly v7 now), I don't think its the Diamond version but I don't see why you need a diamond version as the original works fine In every way. Even subscribed to traffic now which works suprisingly well, got me out of alot of jams.
Rich
EDIT: Just been on a trip to the Lake District and have now experienced some eratic routing which was very annoying. I couldn't work out what it was trying to do most of the time, but it seems to overcomplicate the route instead of taking simpler more direct routes. Not Happy at the moment!!!
leondaphillips said:
"If you have already purchased your copy for PDA and are intending to transfer the license you now have to buy a whole new license! There is no upgrade for existing users"
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Hi, I work at ALK, and I would like to confirm officially that our existing customers are absolutely able to transfer their CoPilot Live 7 license from an existing device to an HTC Touch Diamond. Customers must deactivate from their original device first though. There is no need to purchase an additional license.
CoPilot's features, functionality and routing are not affected by a transfer to the Touch Diamond - our standard product is compatible.
We have however released a special DVD edition of CoPilot Live that copies and installs CoPilot software and mapping to the Touch Diamond's internal storage automatically. It is an solution to enable new customers to get up and running.
Hope this clarifies.
David
Thank you for clarifying this David - it's always appreciated to see vendors showing their faces from time to time in public forums... it reminds us all there are humans behind the corporate name!
I have a question if I may - have ALK considered making a trial version of CoPilot available? I am very interested in the product but you hear so many conflicting opinions from other users (this thread is a good example) it's impossible to really know for sure how well it will suit my needs. The same can be said for all the other competing products also so I'm not singling you out, but as you're here!
I dare say that, rightly or wrongly, some of the personal justifications some people make for installing pirated software may well stem from the lack of such trial versions... and once it's on the device it may be beyond some to actually then stump up the cash if they do find they like it.
I know you may well not be able to respond in an official capacity but if you could at least pass the issue back as a requested user requirement that'd be much appreciated!
Mathew
Could someone confirm what the latest version of Copilot 7 actually is?
Currently on my device I have the following version info:
Version: 7.7.0.134
Data: NAVTEQ.EU.07Q1.2.2.2.2
Could someone just have a check to see what version they have?
PS: I'm running on a Touch Pro, not experienced any issues yet but then I've not done a proper trip yet with this device either.
Co-Pilot 7.0 Live for Touch Diamond
leondaphillips said:
Hi All
Before you think about a Sat Nav package for your diamond be aware that there is an issue with HTC Touch Diamonds and Copilot live 7.0. If you install the product the routing becomes (to put it politely) eratic and insane, avoiding motorways and taking B roads instead of A roads and it doesn't take advantage of the Diamond's two tier geo positioning.
NOTCH ANOTHER ONE UP TO TOM TOM!!!
Yours
Leon
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After purchasing THIS from ALK I have to contact them and get a email which gives me a link to down load the files for my phone, so much for
Supplied on DVD which automatically transfers and installs maps and software to the Touch Diamond
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So now its on my device and I try to use it and that's where the fun begins.
the routing is as random as you could get without without asking your mad aunt with Alzheimer to give you directions. I'm waiting just for it to try to get me to use rail tracks.
Next as you drive the positioning is not smooth and updates when it feels like it.
As for Traffic Management - nope I wont work on the Touch Diamond
Would I recommend any body to use CoPilot 7 Live? NO not yet
Please tel me that ALK are working a version for the Touch Diamond
S0ylentK said:
After purchasing THIS from ALK I have to contact them and get a email which gives me a link to down load the files for my phone, so much for
So now its on my device and I try to use it and that's where the fun begins.
the routing is as random as you could get without without asking your mad aunt with Alzheimer to give you directions. I'm waiting just for it to try to get me to use rail tracks.
Next as you drive the positioning is not smooth and updates when it feels like it.
As for Traffic Management - nope I wont work on the Touch Diamond
Would I recommend any body to use CoPilot 7 Live? NO not yet
Please tel me that ALK are working a version for the Touch Diamond
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Traffic does work on the Touch Diamond, you need to buy a subscription here.
S0ylentK said:
After purchasing THIS from ALK I have to contact them and get a email which gives me a link to down load the files for my phone, so much for
So now its on my device and I try to use it and that's where the fun begins.
the routing is as random as you could get without without asking your mad aunt with Alzheimer to give you directions. I'm waiting just for it to try to get me to use rail tracks.
Next as you drive the positioning is not smooth and updates when it feels like it.
As for Traffic Management - nope I wont work on the Touch Diamond
Would I recommend any body to use CoPilot 7 Live? NO not yet
Please tel me that ALK are working a version for the Touch Diamond
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There is a Touch Diamond version (although the only change over the standard version is the install).
I'm running the standard version and it works just fine - VGA and landscape support.
Routing is fine and I don't have any issues with it. There may be a slight lag (maybe half a second out) between position and actual, but that seems to be the Diamond GPS rather than Copilot as others have said they have the same issue on Tomtom etc.
As for traffic, sorry you have to subscribe as mentioned above, but it is there and will come via GPRS/3G.
Syphon Filter said:
Could someone confirm what the latest version of Copilot 7 actually is?
Currently on my device I have the following version info:
Version: 7.7.0.134
Data: NAVTEQ.EU.07Q1.2.2.2.2
Could someone just have a check to see what version they have?
PS: I'm running on a Touch Pro, not experienced any issues yet but then I've not done a proper trip yet with this device either.
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Just checked and mine is the same version. Copilot Central says I'm up to date and digging on the alk support site it seems its the latest version.
Darrenives said:
Just checked and mine is the same version. Copilot Central says I'm up to date and digging on the alk support site it seems its the latest version.
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Thanks for the confirmation fella
Slightly OT but will grab my chance as we have someone from CoPilot here. I cannot get CoPilot Central to install on Vista 64 bit. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
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As for traffic, sorry you have to subscribe as mentioned above, but it is there and will come via GPRS/3G.
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Menu
Traffic
Settings
Of the two traffic Sources GPRS Wireless is grayed out. ok try TMC Settings but nothing there will work.
So something I get with my TomTom over the air, I have to use my data plan when the TD has a built in FM receiver
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Slightly OT but will grab my chance as we have someone from CoPilot here. I cannot get CoPilot Central to install on Vista 64 bit. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
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Call ALK support, you will need the 64bit specific build.
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Hi All
I read all the responses I have seen and agree with all of them - you should *not* need to purchase a new DVD, copilot central does indeed install a generic version on the Diamond.
PLEASE NOTE: It is worth posting as a quote the support message (pertinent bits in bold) I got then it is worth mentioning that the support guys have had a rethink, made contact and offered me a refund after having recommended the purchase as the only fix.
Fair play to ALK, europe. They are now working with me to resolve the issue. I have now updated to a ROM with updated drivers (Bepe 0.99dx) and am loading from the DVD I purchased. I am now running the diamond specific release 7.7.1.280 navteq.eu.07q3.v7.1.11.4.3.a
Here's the thread:
Subject “Hi
My Copilot 7 live routing refuses to route if there is a motorway or motorway junction involved! For example, sitting at J17 of the M4 and asking CoPilot to route to my home (1 mile from J16) it chose to add a full 25 miles to the route going north and avoiding any motorway junctions. When leaving the motorway it sent me north rather than south and suggested a route which added a further 5 miles at that point.
The device has given nothing but outlandish routes since I applied the update that the Copilot desktop software suggested!
Any ideas, I am furious with the thing right now - where can I download the previous version that works properly from!??”
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Response (Support) - 18/08/2008 11.41 AM
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Please purchase a HTC Diamond DVD from the link below:
http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/cpl7_touchdiamond.asp
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
Regards,
CoPilot European Technical Support
Customer (Customer) - 18/08/2008 11.20 AM
Version 7.7.0.134 is the generic CoPilot build which is not the correct build for the HTC Diamond which is why you are getting these issues as you have applied this update. Can you please confirm if you purchased a Diamond DVD from us , where you purchased your CoPilot software from.
I bought CoPilot on CD from O2 when I got my last phone (O2 XDA Orbit 2)
I have not purchased a Diamond DVD - how much will that cost or is it cheaper to buy a new product?
Response (Support) - 18/08/2008 09.38 AM
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Version 7.7.0.134 is the generic CoPilot build which is not the correct build for the HTC Diamond which is why you are getting these issues as you have applied this update. Can you please confirm if you purchased a Diamond DVD from us , where you purchased your CoPilot software from.
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
Regards,
CoPilot European Technical Support
Customer (Customer) - 16/08/2008 10.15 AM
This can be found by going to SETTINGS | MORE | MORE | MORE |
ABOUT CO-PILOT.
Version loaded is V7.7.0.134
Routing preferences are:
Vehicle Type: Automobile
Routing Type Quickest
Toll Roads: Avoid If possible
General: Avoid Ferries (not checked)
Congestion Zones: Allow
View Edit Road preferences
Motorways: Strongly Favour
Speed 85 miles per hour
Dual Carriageways: Strongly favour
Speed 80 miles per hour
Primary Roads:: Favour
Speed: 35 Miles per hour
Secondary Roads: Avoid
Speed: 20 Miles per hour
Local Streets: Avoid
Speed 10 miles per hour
The device I am running this on is an HTC Touch Diamond (DIAM100)
running Windows Mobile 6.1 professional
Hope that helps?
Yours
Customer
Response (Support) - 14/08/2008 11.06 AM
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Which update (and version of update) did you download so I can assist you further? Can you please also check your Routing Preferences tosee if you have customised them to avoid Motorways or whether you used the default Routing profiles, and what version of CoPilot is your device is running. This can be found by going to SETTINGS | MORE | MORE | MORE | ABOUT COPILOT.
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
Regards,
CoPilot European Technical Support
Customer (Customer) - 10/08/2008 11.27 AM
Hi
My Copilot 7 live routing refuses to route if there is a motorway or motorway junction involved! For example, sitting at J17 of the M4 and asking CoPilot to route to my home (1 mile from J16) it chose to add a full 25 miles to the route going north and avoiding any motorway junctions. When leaving the motorway it sent me north rather than south and suggested a route which added a further 5 miles at that point.
The device has given nothing but outlandish routes since I applied the update that the Copilot desktop software suggested!
Any ideas, I am furious with the thing right now - where can I download the previous version that works properly from!??
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davidq100 said:
Hi, I work at ALK, and I would like to confirm officially that our existing customers are absolutely able to transfer their CoPilot Live 7 license from an existing device to an HTC Touch Diamond. Customers must deactivate from their original device first though. There is no need to purchase an additional license.
CoPilot's features, functionality and routing are not affected by a transfer to the Touch Diamond - our standard product is compatible.
We have however released a special DVD edition of CoPilot Live that copies and installs CoPilot software and mapping to the Touch Diamond's internal storage automatically. It is an solution to enable new customers to get up and running.
Hope this clarifies.
David
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It also installs a newer version 7.71...
Darrenives said:
Just checked and mine is the same version. Copilot Central says I'm up to date and digging on the alk support site it seems its the latest version.
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Latest is 7.7.1.280 navteq.eu.07q3.v7.1.11.4.3.a
S0ylentK said:
...the routing is as random as you could get without without asking your mad aunt with Alzheimer to give you directions. I'm waiting just for it to try to get me to use rail tracks.
As for Traffic Management - nope I wont work on the Touch Diamond
Would I recommend any body to use CoPilot 7 Live? NO not yet
Please tel me that ALK are working a version for the Touch Diamond
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Hi S0ylentK
The DVD is a couple of GB which is why I guess you cannot download? (PM me?) It installs 7.7.1.280 navteq.eu.07q3.v7.1.11.4.3.a
I will be testing things out today and PM you with results. See other posts for my new ROM and drivers from I have now updated to a ROM (Bepe 0.99dx) - if this resolves things I will be first to post my results to ALK and post them here.
I've just enabled the GPRS Traffic and will post results on that.
More importantly
I will be running by 02 XDA Orbit 2 in a cradle next to my Touch Diamond
I want to see if they both send me different ways (I suspect they will!)
It is amazing just how irritating a busted GPS sat nav can be - I sympathise. ALK UK are working with me to get tracks and routes to test and want to fix the problem we are both experiencing.
Yours
Leon
Sounds like the people with problems havent set their routing preference up properly... ie they have shortest route instead of fastest and hence it is suggesting B roads (as they are more direct even if slower).
Tomtom IQ suppose to be very clever, according to their website. It should know and direct you according to how busy the roads are. So it might suggest you different route for different hours of the day.
So wondering if anybody tried tomtom IQ on htc diamond before?
cheers
is it a whole new prog or just maps? got bored reading about it on the TomTom website
as far as i understand, its the program, rather than the maps. it gives alternative routes if your usual route is busy at that time.
http://www.tomtom.com/page/iq-routes
is it available yet, and if it is, what for?
may only be a 'built in to the unit' release
looks like it is only for the TomTom Go 930 and 730 units
In fact, I think it's just a feature implemented in some TT devices (x30 units, I guess). Hopefully it will be present in the next TTNavigator (maybe v.8? There are v.8 maps already for v.8-powered devices! )
I am not completely sure what does that mean.. so if it is the case, then can we not somehow install it to htc diamond? do we basically have to wait for it to became available for "other devices"?
i think we have to wait, looking at the screen shots, it is completely different setup to TTN....