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Help! WM5 downgrade

Hello,
I'm following these instructions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
However, these two pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Versions
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
Are simply returning no data to my web browser, either in Firefox or IE. So I resorted to trying to take the NBF's off this file:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAngel/BlueAngel_Roms/BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom/
I also tried another cooked 1.40 rom that I still have from before I upgraded.
In both cases, the upgrade utility shows no information about the previous or to-upgrade-to version when it displays that info (all the version fields are blank), and when I click upgrade, it runs for about 15 seconds then says upgrade complete. Help! I need to get back down to 2003SE because I have software I need to use that doesn't run on WM5.
Thanks

I have the same problem ! In fact, it does not connect to the ppc. Remove it from the craddle and you'll get the same message. Idea anyboy ?

Downgrade to 1.40
Just put your pda to "boot" mode. This can be done by pressing the power button, the "soft" reset hole and the record button. Then downgrade.....

I did that... followed the wicki (the gray screen with usb and the version on the bottom).

I was having this problem as well. I solved it by downgrading to my manufacturers latest ROM 1.3... I am very relieved.

sx66 bluetooth expired. missing rom... here is a sollution!

SX66 BLUETOOTH Expired
Hi. I can not use Bluetooth since I downgraded from wm2005 to WM2003. When I set up Bluetooth, it says”
BTTrayCE
Sorry! Bluetooth can no longer be used because the license is expired
BDA: 00:00:00:00:00:00
Key:
E3E534E19B3E8214C543A
73COABB9A9074DD3B175
3515CD8
Please help. Thanks. I have tried completed install from original rom CE nad Radio. But the same problem. The extended rom is dead I can not upgrade it since it faila at 1%.
Please help Thanks.

Hi
Did you carefully follow WM2005 -> WM2003 process described in wiki ?
It's very important that you resize, reformat ExtROM and do some other stuff before flashing back to WM2003.
Good luck

i have the same problem.. since octobre without solution

Hi
I ask again.
Did you guys restore your ExtROM correctly ?
(using Repart_DOC.exe tool)
GO to wiki -> blueangel -> blueangel WM2005 page -> how to downgrade....
Good luck

hi robal
I tried but when i use Repart_DOC
I set size 16384 or other sizes but if I click format now, the error message pops up"
Create handle failed.
Please help. Thanks!

Hi
Maybe You forgot to do as described in point "3" of downgrade process :
Prep your WM5 device by formating Storage and Hive.
Press Power + Softreset, and when the colored stripes (well, this is the bootscreen )shows on the screen.
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
Quickly press Record+Camera before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Camera+Record at the same time.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
Quickly press Record+Windows Media before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Windows Media Player button+Record at the same time.
Either way mentioned above should work.
You'll see three options; change the second and the third to "yes".
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
You can do that with the camera and the record buttons.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
You can do that with the Windows Media Player and the record buttons.
If you are done, press the mail button, it'll show a white screen for a while, just wait.
If the bootscreen, aka. the colored stripes is displayed, Wait more, you are booting.
The welcome screen to set up your device should appear soon.
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This should've been done when you had WM2005.
I think it's important to do it, before trying to run Repart_DOC (on WM2003).
Any idea ?
If you've forgotten to do it. You probably will have to intall WM2005 again, do it, intall WM2003 and Repart_DOC it. HUh
have fun

DEAR robal,
Thanks for your information. In fact I did everything like you said before. but nothing help.
I know that I have to creat an extended_Rom in order to get it work. (this is not a big deal since we can install manually.
The most imfortant thing is the bluetooth error. Please help me find a sollutin for it. Thanks!

Hi
So you say, you have WM2003 installed with Extrom CABs from some official ROM ? OK
I'm not familiar with this BT failure. Please tell me exactly what ROM are you using ( CE , Radio, ExtROM )
And what version of BT stack you have.

This error is caused by a portion of the Bluetooth memory being overwritten by something else. The people who are trying to help you are right...you need to reflash the device because something didn't work correctly last time.

I had a tool that restored BT MAC-address, but I cannot find it on HDD.
It was sent by imate tech support as a fix for the "bt license has expired" error, so you may try to contact them, or search this forum.

please mamaich if you can find it this will be very helpful

Dear mamaich,
Thanks for your great imformation. I love to get it as soon as you find it. Again, thanks for your pricious time to repond.

Looks Like every body is stuck...I had solved this problem twice and with full success...on ROM 1.4 pls install the Broadcom 1.6 cab and yes...yr problem is solved... :lol:
Only thing..I was not able to put it install thru Ext ROM...even by editing config.txt....may be someone here can do this :roll:

new problem come out after previous one
hi, I have another problem so.. i need your help.
before, My sx66 problem with bluetooth and the Extended_ROM did not exist.
Now, after many tried to install rom from Tmobile, O2. sx66 over and over again, the extended_ROM is now okay to install but sadly the Storage doen't exist any more. Also some contact, task .. pop up after full installation. Finally,after extended_ROM Complete installed, window
Connection Flash Mangaer
pop ups" Saved data is corrupted.
System will erase all data to fix
this error
Yes No
but It does fix anything after I click yes button.
Please help to recover my storage. If there any software that can partition rom for ppc. please share.
p.s. the bluetooth now is freezing.

what u hv to do is use the Ext ROM Unlocker and use Repart_Doc...Set the size of yr Ext ROM...say 15 MB or so and then do the Repartitioning...now flash yr device...u will get yr Ext Rom Back with no such errors as reported by you

problem solved.
Dear hdubli,
Thanks for your help. Everything works properly now. Now my sx66 works at factory shipped. I am very happy.
Specailly thank to Hdubi for providing an exellent solution.

hdubli said:
Looks Like every body is stuck...I had solved this problem twice and with full success...on ROM 1.4 pls install the Broadcom 1.6 cab and yes...yr problem is solved... :lol:
Only thing..I was not able to put it install thru Ext ROM...even by editing config.txt....may be someone here can do this :roll:
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Hi hdubli, a question, what is the ROM 1.4 of the blueangel?

I am stuck in 4 colored screen or can't exit BootLoader (softreset didn't help)...

Hi folks,
i tried the upgrade like in "HTC_Blueangel_WM6_Wizzard" is discriped,
but after a hardreset i can't start my device or get in debugger screen!
I only see the boot screen with "R 1.10.00" displayed.
Any help would be welcome!
My device
Modell: PH20B1
CPU: Intel PXA263 400 MHz
RAM: 128 MB
Flash: 32 MB
ROM: 1.31.01 GER 12/13/04
Radio: 1.10.00
Protocoll: 133.7.391
ExtROM: 1.12.169 WWE
iso

i also experience this problem. can any one help us?

iso0815 said:
Hi folks,
i tried the upgrade like in "HTC_Blueangel_WM6_Wizzard" is discriped,
but after a hardreset i can't start my device or get in debugger screen!
I only see the boot screen with "R 1.10.00" displayed.
Any help would be welcome!
My device
Modell: PH20B1
CPU: Intel PXA263 400 MHz
RAM: 128 MB
Flash: 32 MB
ROM: 1.31.01 GER 12/13/04
Radio: 1.10.00
Protocoll: 133.7.391
ExtROM: 1.12.169 WWE
iso
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Press Power + Softreset, and when the colored stripes (well, this is the bootscreen )shows on the screen.
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
Quickly press Record+Camera before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Camera+Record at the same time.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
Quickly press Record+Windows Media before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Windows Media Player button+Record at the same time.
Either way mentioned above should work.
You'll see three options; change the second and the third to "yes".
If you have a PH20B device such as MDAIII, QTEK 9090, XDAIIs, PDA2K etc.
You can do that with the camera and the record buttons.
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
You can do that with the Windows Media Player and the record buttons.
If you are done, press the mail button, it'll show a white screen for a while, just wait.
If the bootscreen, aka. the colored stripes is displayed, Wait more, you are booting.
The welcome screen to set up your device should appear soon.]
I hope this will help to resolve the problem
Take Care
ENJOY

Old Bootloder?
Software Solutions said:
If you have a PH20B1 device such as SX66
Quickly press Record+Windows Media before the versions appears at bottom right
OR, press Power+Softreset+Windows Media Player button+Record at the same time.
Either way mentioned above should work.
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THX for your hint, but this is what doesn't would work!
When i press the two buttons, like you descriped and it is shown in wiki, no meue is shown?!
Maybe Bootloader of my BA is not the newest? = R 1.10.00
Could you tell me how i can update it?
iso

iso0815 said:
THX for your hint, but this is what doesn't would work!
When i press the two buttons, like you descriped and it is shown in wiki, no meue is shown?!
Maybe Bootloader of my BA is not the newest? = R 1.10.00
Could you tell me how i can update it?
iso
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The bootloader is included in the ROM that you flash onto the device so that is not the issue. You must press the two buttons and hold them until the menu appears. It may take several attempts to succeed. The R that you are referring to represents Radio and has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than GSM operations.

Kasush said:
The bootloader is included in the ROM that you flash onto the device so that is not the issue. You must press the two buttons and hold them until the menu appears. It may take several attempts to succeed. The R that you are referring to represents Radio and has absolutely nothing to do with anything other than GSM operations.
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okay... thanks for you info, but...
if R 1.10.00 is not the version of Bootloader i got no other on screen.
I pressed the record and media button while reset and after.
I pressed the buttons similar and step by step.
I pressed the buttons after battery reconneced.
I wait after reset without pressing buttons... nothing more happens then a screen with stipes an "R 1.10.00" is displayed in right bottom.
Buttons were working fine while i used WM2003 SE on the device, so i think bottons are not the problem... but where is the bug?
I am getting crazy... ???!
Maybe i should use a other rom?
Or try to use mtty? (see above)
iso
Added:
I used mtty like discriped in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FAQ_STUCK_AT_STARTUP but after Reset no difference... :-(

So, in the three stripes screen you only see R 1.01.00 and no G xxxx.xx nor D x.xx.xx.xxx ?
Maybe that means that you have no OS installed. Have you tried reflashing the ROM ?
Also, which ROM and program are you using to flash ?
JP

i dont know about R G and D terminologies...
but we think "R 1.10.00" stands for your RADIO Version... not the ROM.
and since you're not showing the "G xxx.xx" and "D x.xx.xx.xxx"...
i second JP... it's a bad ROM Flashing...
try to flash back the old rom and retry the upgrade.

Used tools..
THX for helping me...
I only used the tools of "HELMI_BA_WM6_R0_Public" archiv FLASH.
GetDeviceData.exe
MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
RUU.conf
RUU.dll
EnterBL.exe
nk.nbf -> wm6-rom
and i have installed MS-Activesync 4.5.
I flashed the original o2-rom back and it works. WM2003 SE booting.
Than i flashed the HELMI_BA_WM6 and it was completed with 100%, no errors, but then after hardreset the same screen with stripes an R 1.10.00
Any more ideas?
iso

Same for me.
Any solutions?

Maybe this is helpful for you
bj_b4

Guys i think i have a similar problem.
I flashed my BA many times and it worked, back and forth WM5 to WM6 and so forth, until on Fri. I had accidentaly moved files and then deleted them from the windows dir. When I flashed the then WM6 to downgrade to WM5, it worked. When I used DOC resize tool to format my storage (didn't know about th mentined method) as usual (this worked many times before) & flashed to to WM6 then it got stuck at the 4 colors.
I tried what is wrote here and I am stuck at the white screen. nothing happening. It's been like that for an hour now. If i soft reset it, and try again it's the same nothing has changed.
any ideas?

I Think I've Bricked My Blue Angel????

Hi,
I am new to attempting ROM upgrades!
I bought my BA on ebay it runs on wm2003se but have never used it as a phone because it needed unlocking so i thought i would try to upgrade then unlock.
After many failed rom upgrade attempts one finally started to install, it got to 100% then i was promped to soft reset my XDAiis which i presume is the normal proceedure?
So i did this, but now it is stuck on the blue, green, red and white screen displaying,
No GSM
HTC BlueAngel D 6. 50.28.WWE
I have tried hard reset
I have tried to install the O2 rom that came with it but it says its the incorrect country version!
Any ideas or is it Dead???
HELP

first: try hard resetting!
the procedure changed in comparison to wm2003se, so you have to press reset+power, and then immediately press camera+record. a menu shows up, showing
Enable KITL YES
clear reg. hive NO
format storage NO
using the camera and record buttons, change these entries to
Enable KITL NO
clear reg. hive YES
format storage YES
and press the mail button to confirm, after some time you will see the device boot for the first time.
probably that solves your first problem, but since you seem pretty unexperienced (no offense), it probably unveils more problems. you should also make sure to read this carefully, maybe follow the upgrade wizard again, to make sure you formatted your old extrom and resized it, have a working radio rom, and to make sure you know what you are doing and how to go on improving you BA experience:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardMain
greetz
Chef_Tony

Hi,
Thanks for your reply i have tried hard reseting and still have the same problem, any other suggestions???

run through the wizard in the link above, you will need to downgrade to wm2003se again, resize the storage space, upgrade to wm6.5 doing everything exactly as written in the wiki and you will have no problems, here there is the step you are currently facing:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
the downgrade from wm5 or above down to wm2003

hello !
my screen stay white after the
"Enable KITL NO
clear reg. hive YES
format storage YES"
part. How can I do ? thanks

and it's a xv6600

i am not an expert when it comes to the different names of the device, but a quick google search told me, your device is not a blueangel, but a cdma device, namely a HARRIER. the harrier does not support wm5 and up, so you should flash your original shipped rom back, to get it back to work.
if you do not have your shipped rom present (on cd) you can go to your carrier's website and try and download it there. if, however, it is not listed there anymore, you can go download it here:
http://harrier.atspace.com/
all credit for the shipped rom archive goes to xplode.
greetz
Chef_Tony

great link thanks

Unable to Load Bootloader

I have tried hitting record + power + reset and still no dice.
I did this last Jan to my BA with few problems, put in the wm6.1
Wanting to install this one WM6.5
I also installed the Wizard Service Tool and it doesnt seem to work. It will give me info but the hard reset and other rom features don't want to work.
is there a workaround for gettin to the bootloader? Or should I take this all as a sign not to brik my phone? ;D
thanks,
chela

hi , i'm new on the forum...i think i've the same problem, on my PDA2K..
I try to install a new rom from wm2003se, using a file called "preparazione BA"( i think i've unlocked the extrom), then i normally setup with the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe..But now, when the upgrading is completed to wm6, i'm not able to load the bootoption..i can see 4 colour bands (green blue red white) but no option to boot. The rec+photo+reset seem not to work.
Could anyone help me\us??
Regards at all
Davide

after 2 hours..here are some news: my pda2k display became with the 4 color but there was writen something about R none, G none and (version onf the rom i tryed to install) then pressing rec+cam i saw for little fraction of second the menu enable kitl ,clean registry, etc.. and then suddenly the wm6 starts. After installing the OS ask me to reset..Well, it return to the same 4 color, and the only word i see is R1.11.00
I'm getting crazy...
Please big chef tony help me!
i don't know what to do now...i'm little down
Davide

...lol maybe because I dont do this often enough, but this case was solved with a little bit of RTFM!
I didnt realize I was pressing the wrong fsking button! derr!
Here is Chef Tony's post...should carve it into my desk!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_WM5_For_Beginners

Hello, my ppc always dispays the four band with R1.11.00 written..After a lot of reset(often unplugging battery) and photo+rec, i was rarely able to display the boot option, but here is strange what is written(attached photo n°2): R None, G None, D 1.21 Michy.. Then pushing "mail" the OS start installing wm6, then, it ask me to boot so i would be able executing extrom to install cab file.It resets and then it appears the famous four band with R1.11.00
Any idea??
I've finished mine....Aww!!
Regards
Davide
P.s. think it's important: my bootloader is v 2.08

i've solved my problem..reading on other forums, they suggest to install a rom WM5, where there was radio upgrade too..After i was able to install WM6.1 ! Now..i have to wait..and crossing my fingers!
Thank you all, if anybody has question ask me, i'll happy to help you
Bye
Davide

Davidenji said:
Hello, my ppc always dispays the four band with R1.11.00 written..After a lot of reset(often unplugging battery) and photo+rec, i was rarely able to display the boot option, but here is strange what is written(attached photo n°2): R None, G None, D 1.21 Michy.. Then pushing "mail" the OS start installing wm6, then, it ask me to boot so i would be able executing extrom to install cab file.It resets and then it appears the famous four band with R1.11.00
Any idea??
I've finished mine....Aww!!
Regards
Davide
P.s. think it's important: my bootloader is v 2.08
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Nothing strange about what is in photo #2! That is the debugger screen.
Looks like you got it rolled back to the original ROM but if you decide to put the latest stable ROM 6.5 on there you're going to have to follow the Chef's directions in the above supplied link.
Good luck,
Chela

glad you found it out, you are right, there was something wrong with the radio, which is why in screenshot #1 there is only the radio listed and i think that's also why in #4 the comm icons are red, i've never seen that before, but could also be a custom skin in that rom.
brujeria is right, there is nothing wrong with the 2nd and 3rd screenshot, except for the 2nd one only showing the rom and no radio or protocol, meaning that the device was probably resetted by pulling out the battery and not pushing the reset pin with the stylus, unless that was also a radio issue.
unless you already started customizing your device you should probably think about hard resetting it once again and trying if that works, or even re-flash the rom, without flashing the radio, that way you'd know for sure, if from now on you'll always have to flash a "baked rom" (usually a term for a cooked rom, together with radio and extrom, a full flash, in this case i mean rom and radio rom, since the extrom is not really flashed anymore).
with best regards,
Chef_Tony

i've already customized...a little! Now, everytime i soft reset i read this: R 1.15.00 , G 1337.45 , D 1.21 michy.
I've no problem at moment..but i hope i won't never hard reset!
This Rom (WM6.1 included only Rom upgrade) it's nice, but i'm interested about WM6.5..anyway i think to keep this one untill a problem will come out
P.s. Like you say, now the antenna isn't red anymore..it's bright green
Thank you a lot for the support guys!