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Installing Blackberry Connect

Hi, I have done a lot of searching on this topic, but haven't been able to find anything definitive on the best way to install blackberry connect. I am about to pick up a Siemens SX66 (Cingular version, but will be using on Tmobile) and want to make sure that I will be able to get the blackberry functionality to work.
I have a few questions/comments/observations that I would love to get everyones feedback on. If there something out there that explains how to get it working, I am sorry and please feel free to point me in the right direction.
1. My understanding is that the blackberry connect software is in the extended rom. So far I have been able to find the following cab files which I believe have the blackberry software: htc_pocketpc_tmo_germany_2.0.0.25-18.cab, HTC_PocketPC_TMO_Austria_Germany_Load_Working.cab and htc_pocketpc_tmo_england_2.0.0.25-18.cab. Not sure what else is in here, but it looks like the blackberry client is there as well.
2. If I use one of those roms, what language will the software be? Will have to use the tmobile UK version for english?
3. I have been reading about people have problems with the phone rom. These are post from a while back, it seems that the UK blackberry client need version 1.0 and the german version need 1.06? Is this correct or can I use the lasted phone rom?
4. Is there any limitations on the System Rom or Extended Rom? Do I need a specific version? I want to make sure I have english on the device though.
5. Let's say I do get all the right software. Is there a problem in the US where Blackberry won't register Blackberry Connect PINs? I was reading in another forum that someone was having a problem with this on their SX66 and also I am upgrading from a Sony Ericsson P910a where I couldn't get my PIN added to Blackberry servers.
The main reason I want the device is to replace my blackberry and this is extremely important. Other functionality is awesome, but secondary as I need to make sure I have access to my corporate email.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!

There are 2 threads in the blue angel section that have Blackberry connect ih the title. Might be of help.

Thanks saw those posts after, I figured the info would be in this section. I posted some questions there as well, but any help would be appreciated. Not sure if this is going to work....oh well..

To the best of my knowledge...
NOBODY has been able to make the BB Connect software work on SX66 on Cingular.
I've all but given up. Maybe WM2005 will be different...

Crap, though I take it the problem is Cingular not the phone right? Do you know if anyone has been able to get it to work on T-Mobile? What is the problem you are having, is it the PIN / IMEI registration issue?

that's certainly a part of it...
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!

Re: that's certainly a part of it...
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Umm i hate to say this but also that PIN number is alos tied to a carrier, and RIM will NOT release that PIN number to be used on another carrier's network, i know, i am a data support rep with Cingular. if you want something just like the Blackberry then go pay and get the GoodLink solution, otherwise i wouldnt complain about something free that cingular offers, I use it and i agree it isnt the best but works pretty damn well considering it FREE!!! for the PErsonal Edition. Besides, if you wanted to use the BWC (BlackBerry Web client) it isnt exactly Push either, the only forms available are the Redirector and the BES, but considering Congular is offering a solution for FREE i woulnt complain if i were you. If you wanna get mad at not having that solution get mad at RIM not Cingular...... :!:

Re: that's certainly a part of it...
Well I have the desktop software in english and just installed the german software on my sx66. I think I got it to connect but its hard to tell. Iwonder if there is any other software out there....
goestoeleven said:
pin/imei, software (nothing supported). The blackberry connect desktop software for XDA2 is a couple years old and does not let you change the PIN.
No way to configure, so you're hosed. The O2 software on the pocket pc is also locked to an O2 blackberry APN. No way to change that either.
It's possible that somebody somewhere has taken the T-Mobile German MDAIII software -- and somehow obtained the T-Mobile desktop software -- and translated both --
but I doubt it! Definitely not to be found anywhere on this site...
Of course, I'D LOVE TO BE PROVEN WRONG, as this has been the biggest issue for me since I got this bloody device.
Bottom line: either use the crap XpressMail redirector product that Cingular offers, or use IMAP/POP on a "pull" basis. Neither way works well. We're screwed until Cingular steps up to the plate or until some brave soul on this board saves us all!
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Damm, I actually just found the software for 2.0 software for Tmobile UK. Now it only gets an IP address for two seconds then looses it. I think its the same problem I had with my p910a I can't get the server to recognize it.

Please prove me wrong!
Figure out how to make this work, and you'll be the hero of every Cingular / SX66 user on this board!

I am getting much closer now, I hacked (hex edit) one of the dll files to point to an IP address of 206.51.26.192 instead of 206.51.26.189. I know the .192 is the right address from my old blackberry. Now I actually stay live on the APN with an IP address and everything, where before I would get one for a second and get kicked out. I think it's a matter of registering it now. If anyone wants to try this dll, replace the one in the windows directory. Also I will upload the version of blackberry connect I am using... Please try as well...

Here is the dll I mentioned...replace this with the one in windows directory

Seem s like you are getting somewere on this issue.
Feel like writing a How to so that we can post it on wiki?
If you need help PM me I can also move what ever files that you like on the FTP site.

Thanks, just haven't gotten it to work totally yet, but that may just need a call to Tmobile to ask them to set it up. I have made progress in the fact that my blackberry.net apn now stays connected, where before it would disconnect after a minute or two. I think I am half way there. Need some more people to play around who have tried before to see if they get anywhere...

Can you also post the desktop software version you're using?
There hasn't been a recent posting of the BB Config software in quite some time...
Thanks!

It's too large, check the ftp server. look for somethign called bb_desktop_sw_mda3_20.exe It's up there somewhere.... poke around uploads as well...
Oh wait... I got it from tmobile directly, hehehe...
http://www.t-mobile.de/business/blackberry/smallbusiness/1,8236,8577-_,00.html

So you're using the German version?
Make it work, and I won't care what language it's in!

I agree, first I tried the german one, before I found the Tmobile Uk one. Did you try downloading everything and installing?

yup...
still can't make it work on my end... although I haven't changed anything in Hex...

Try the dll I fixed up also, let me know if it makes any difference....

internet via activesync

hello,
i've just upgraded to wm2006. before when i've placed the device in the dock it would use my pc's internet connection and i could be able to surf via pocket ie or update weather info etc. doesnt seem to work after the upgrade. any ideea?
device is an o2 xda II, active synch 4.5.0 (build 5096), win xp.
any ideeas?
thanks.

mindwar said:
hello,
i've just upgraded to wm2006. before when i've placed the device in the dock it would use my pc's internet connection and i could be able to surf via pocket ie or update weather info etc. doesnt seem to work after the upgrade. any ideea?
device is an o2 xda II, active synch 4.5.0 (build 5096), win xp.
any ideeas?
thanks.
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Did you turn this option on in AS? Firewall isn't blocking it? Then... make sure you didn't screwed internet options in Settings->Connections - it should be automatic.

utak3r said:
Did you turn this option on in AS? Firewall isn't blocking it? Then... make sure you didn't screwed internet options in Settings->Connections - it should be automatic.
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well when i fist got the device and installed active synch it just worked. didnt have to change anything.. any special setting i need to make after upgradeing from 03 to 06?
not running any firewall (windows one included)
settings->connection doesn't show any connection. under the advanced tab "use work network" is selected.

mindwar said:
didnt have to change anything.. any special setting i need to make after upgradeing from 03 to 06?
not running any firewall (windows one included)
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OK - which ROM did you flash? Check your "Settings->connections->USB-to-PC", it should have "Advanced networking" checked on.
mindwar said:
settings->connection doesn't show any connection. under the advanced tab "use work network" is selected.
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Well, that's perfect...

utak3r said:
OK - which ROM did you flash? Check your "Settings->connections->USB-to-PC", it should have "Advanced networking" checked on.
Well, that's perfect...
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used TOFCLOCK HIMA WM6 AKU.0.7.0 CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0)
advanced network functionability is checked.

mindwar said:
used TOFCLOCK HIMA WM6 AKU.0.7.0 CE OS 5.2.1908 (Build 18508.0.7.0)
advanced network functionability is checked.
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Hm.
After flashing AS performed a new device setup, right? The last question (after setting up, which items are to be synchronized) is this device is allowed to use Internet connection. Are you sure you've checked it? If so... well, I don't know

same problem here... and i am sure i checked the use of internet conection...

utak3r said:
Hm.
After flashing AS performed a new device setup, right? The last question (after setting up, which items are to be synchronized) is this device is allowed to use Internet connection. Are you sure you've checked it? If so... well, I don't know
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hm, dont remember beeing asked that..
any way i can set it up without reflashing?

mindwar said:
any way i can set it up without reflashing?
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Of course. In AS (while having PDA unconnected) choose "delete partnership", and then connect your Hima, it will resetup the partnership.

utak3r said:
Of course. In AS (while having PDA unconnected) choose "delete partnership", and then connect your Hima, it will resetup the partnership.
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did that, still the same unfortunatly.
though i did find out that wm06 creates a local area connection.
i tried to share my desktop's internet connection with the wm created one but still nothing yet.

doesn't anyone with wm6 use internet connection through usb or craddle???

boditza said:
doesn't anyone with wm6 use internet connection through usb or craddle???
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Well, I am using. Everyone's using It's just it's working perfect for most of us... I really have no idea, what's going on with you two

ok. google helped me find an answer on another board.
for anybody intrested - http://www.aximsite.com/boards/activesync/137666-fix-unknown-error-0x80072f78.html
(hope there's no problem with posting the link but i figured someone might need this too).
cheers utak3r for the help!

thanks for share...

mindwar said:
hello,
i've just upgraded to wm2006. before when i've placed the device in the dock it would use my pc's internet connection and i could be able to surf via pocket ie or update weather info etc. doesnt seem to work after the upgrade. any ideea?
device is an o2 xda II, active synch 4.5.0 (build 5096), win xp.
any ideeas?
thanks.
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I had the same problem and I solved using using Activesync serial connection, see my post #45 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329202&page=5

ciberus said:
I had the same problem and I solved using using Activesync serial connection, see my post #45 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329202&page=5
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thanks ciberus. I've managed to find an answer without needing to change connection type. see my post above.
glad you've posted though so we can have both solutions in a single place (I wasn't able to find your post by searching the forums before I started this thread). cheers

Mine got solved like this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3787583#post3787583
Cheers

Windows Update on ATT Tilt

Ok; So I notice that many versions of windows on the ATT Tilt have a "windows update" button. I know that this is a newer concept used with wm6.1 but is it even worth it to have it in the rom or is it just an idea that has been implimented but will not be utalized for a while? I know some cellular companies were going to try FOTA (Firmware Over The Air) updates but the main concern has always been about the customet toasting the device with a FOTA update that goes wrong.... Any ideas anyone?

as far as i know no device ever had a working win update on them
ms never implemented the server feature in their end

You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!

I thought about putting this in the kaiser forum but to my knowledge other phones and wm6 versions have the windows update. That is why I posted here. I was hoping someone with a different device and rom may have some input. I could have fixed the title of the thread a littl better I suppose...

I know that I have it on my HTC TyTN II (non-original ROM), and that it doesn't work.

it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server

dyetheskin said:
it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server
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Microsoft put it in so they have the ability to update. They haven't used it yet but they might in the future.

when i first got my tilt i ran it out of curiosity and if i remember correctly, it found the windows mobile green theme file as an update to wm6 so there has been at least 1 update pushed out through this server that is IF my memory serves me correctly.

galaxys said:
You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!
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Ummm this is the Kaiser forum isn't it

i have only used the feature once and i see no use in it what do ever. i have only seen it being used to update the windows live program and that was the only time i saw it used. other then that i have never seen it being used for anything else.

New ATT Blackberry Connect cab

THis was just released a few days ago.. i dont use BB connect so i cant comment about it.. but here it is!

would you be able to give me the exact location where you got this? I wanted to read up on the new blackberry connect for att....possibly HTC.
thanks

this came directly from an ATT inside source, it hasnt been posted to the public yet!

ok cool :-D anything new to it? Or do you know the version of the Software?

masta7100 said:
ok cool :-D anything new to it? Or do you know the version of the Software?
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I've not experience anything new except the new version (4.0.0.100). I've been running it for the last 10 hrs. Thank you Shogunmark for the cab.

KarmaNP said:
I've not experience anything new except the new version (4.0.0.100). I've been running it for the last 10 hrs. Thank you Shogunmark for the cab.
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I guess I can't just add the BB part just for the email to my att tilt. The only thing that stinks witht he Blackberry connect is, you can't use some of the cingular video when using it. It is nice thou. Is there any special settings or anything when you installed it? With Duttys release? By the way, where did you get the 16GB SDHC card!! I want one :-D Brand?

? ?
i have a few questions about this app. ive never used a black berry vbefore so here goes
do i have to add the black berry connect for this app to work? the 39.99 montly fee
or do all i need is a internet connection?
and does this include the black berry connet?

masta7100 said:
I guess I can't just add the BB part just for the email to my att tilt. The only thing that stinks witht he Blackberry connect is, you can't use some of the cingular video when using it. It is nice thou. Is there any special settings or anything when you installed it? With Duttys release? By the way, where did you get the 16GB SDHC card!! I want one :-D Brand?
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I'm not sure how the plan works from AT&T as I use the BB connect with Tmobile.
About the SDHC card, it's not micro but regular SD(HC) and for my Universal and I believe I got it from newegg.

Has this version fixed the annoying problem 4.0.0.92 has of waking a sleeping device upon receiving an email?

To use the software on AT&T you have to switch to the blackberry data plan or else the traffic will be dropped.
Note: They'll drop your SMS plan off when they sign you up for the blackberry data plan (for some stupid reason, they think if you have blackberry you don't text anymore?). You'll have to make sure to add some type of messaging back onto your line or you won't even receive any messages. (at least i never got them until i put messaging back on mine)

idj1975 said:
To use the software on AT&T you have to switch to the blackberry data plan or else the traffic will be dropped.
Note: They'll drop your SMS plan off when they sign you up for the blackberry data plan (for some stupid reason, they think if you have blackberry you don't text anymore?). You'll have to make sure to add some type of messaging back onto your line or you won't even receive any messages. (at least i never got them until i put messaging back on mine)
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That's not a default setting there...
but some reps will screw it up...
I just added MediaNet Unlimited and 1500 messages/month to my plan.. Checked the next day, I had... No data plan, 1500 messages.... i called them up.. they removed my messaging package, but still didnt give me data
Luckily I'm a dealer, so just went in and added the crap myself, but kinda funny how I asked for 2 things and they didn't give me either after 2 phone calls...
Then again, Maybe they hate me for having a Tilt on MediaNet... Though that IS all the internet i use on the tilt anyway, so they can suck it up ;-)

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To use the software on AT&T you have to switch to the blackberry data plan or else the traffic will be dropped.
so i have to have black berry connect on att to use this i wonder if its as fast or faster than media net/ pda complete package.
and can any 1 tell me if this black berry connect includes Black berry Messenger?

Fix
masta7100 said:
I guess I can't just add the BB part just for the email to my att tilt. The only thing that stinks witht he Blackberry connect is, you can't use some of the cingular video when using it. It is nice thou. Is there any special settings or anything when you installed it? With Duttys release? By the way, where did you get the 16GB SDHC card!! I want one :-D Brand?
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I've used the previous version before. The latest WM 6.1 and well asl Sleuth's et al all now allow dual connection to Blackberry channel and the Media net simultaneously. If you have blackberry plan give it a try.

Delta_flyer said:
Has this version fixed the annoying problem 4.0.0.92 has of waking a sleeping device upon receiving an email?
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I am on 4.0.0.97 and I have this issue. I get a lot of emails and when the device wakes up with the screen on full ... I know my battery wears down a lot because of bb traffic. I'd really like the device's screen to say asleep when I get email, my device's battery life would double or triple.

anyone answer ?

twinpeaks said:
anyone answer ?
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I haven't touched any settings and when the emails come in, if the device is on sleep mode, it doesn't wake the device up. Have you played around with your settings to see if that helps?
I was using the 4.0.0.97 until Shogunmark posted this one.

maybe it's a ROM issue, which setting? I have mine set to make sound ...

Dumb question do i need to change the aku for this version if im using WM 6.1 like i did for the .97 version?

eyeless said:
Dumb question do i need to change the aku for this version if im using WM 6.1 like i did for the .97 version?
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I haven't had to change the AKU on the latest ROMs, including the Diamond hybrids, when using this .100 build.
For a while, the .97 didn't have to change the AKUs either, so I believe they add support for higher revisions in each release.

Yep,
confirmed working on my O2 XDA Diamond ' as is'
Proximus 3G BES

Tilt already coming named?

Hi,
I'm new and I'm happy to be a member this site. I just received my new at&t tilt a couple of days ago. I installed the activesync software on my computer and connected my device via usb. When my device came up on my computer and I ran the short device installation my devices name was "Johnson" ... Is it suppose to come named already? Or would somebody have to had named it? Should I be alarmed? Did I get a used Tilt?
One more question, how do you delete the 10 songs that are already preloaded on the Tilt's memory?
Thanks everyone for your help. I'm so excited to have this phone. I can't wait to dive into it and do all the customizeing that I've seen. I hope to learn a lot from you guys and gals.

where did you purchase it? by default the activesync name should be something like ATT_TILT (im using a cooked rom so its something like HTC_TYTNII) so it sounds like its used..whats the call duration when you goto start>settings>device info>call duration tab ?

The call duration is showing 0's all the way accross. I haven't activated the phone yet. It should be activated tomorrow. Could the call duration time possibly be reset?
When I first turned the phone on I did go through all the set up processes like if it were brand new ...
Is there a way to change the name?

spyderrtd said:
Is there a way to change the name?
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start>Settings>System>About>Device ID change the device name...

Strange...unless you had active sync on your computer before?
Don't think you can easily reset the usage timer, even on a hard reset.
I just installed 6.1, and it didn't reset the timer.
Welcome to the club...lots of useful info around here.

pazookie said:
where did you purchase it?
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I bought it from newegg.com. I think they outsource though through a company called simplexity I believe.
Thanks reaper, that worked.
Thanks 007 for the welcome. Anything you could recommend that i could get started on?

Getting Started
If you haven't already, read the manual that is on the CD that came with your phone. That will always be the best place to start. Next, start browsing the forums and do some reading. After that, use the 'Search' feature to get to know what's out there and what you can do with your phone.
I've been lurking here for a couple of days, having just received my Tilt, but am finding this site to be invaluable. I also regularly visit mobilitysite.com, which used to be devoted to the Dell Axim I used to have. Quite a friendly bunch over there, just like we have here.

spyderrtd said:
Anything you could recommend that i could get started on?
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Tilt Specific Wiki Page, here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TiltSpecificWikiPage

Or use the middle link in my sig.

Awesome! Thanks for all the info and links everyone. Just from those two links I already have a bunch to research and figure out.