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!! 2 Questions for the BA Flash Gods !!

I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and would like to compare a couple side by side to see the benchmarks with these user-created roms vs 2003se

atom069 said:
I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and only use them for that Unfortunately hah.. :roll:
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Of couse your buddirs live with 2003 because there are no wm5 for BA , we had here base on text rom by HTC which came from last year and a lot of people in here to made it work like Universal or Wizard,you can ask your buddies maybe they dont had wm5 rom for BA. :wink: :wink:
I dont think anyone in MS or HTC will make wm5 rom for BA , if you had buddies why you not ask them about AKU3.0 rom for Universal and Wizard ?

haha do what
We're very Close friends of 14yrs fortunately. We have no loyalty to your boy Billy Gates, Sorry dude hah. I'm sure they are not just trying to get me to buy WM5 products haha
I just like to see forums and the modifed MS WM5 stacks (tisk tisk ) and actually benchmark/test to see who knows what, or who's just throwing something out
As for the other modifed roms you're speaking of, Sell and upgrade to faster model
a QVGA to VGA is like going from radio wave cable to high-definition formatting.

Yo
I will say that MS would be lucky to have any of these developers working for them, cheers to you all!

@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.

I'd totally agree with the above...
Ivan's (or thingonasprings version with the RAMdisk) for speed and basic stability
helmi_c's as it has the new AKU2.3 base with Push Mail etc (but still in dev stage so not 'meant' to be as stable, although I've had no issues as yet!)
I've also found TuMa 1.4 very good, but mainly as I use the BT functionality quite a bit which hasn't ben sorted on the newer ROM's yet.

willpower102 said:
@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.
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remember the BA already disconnetion from HTC that's why they dont want to make BA for WM5 , bepe and me working with AKU3 for BA , bepe already made text rom for Himayala he post today,I will try anything I can to make life easy

WM 2005 versus WM 2003

hello everyone!
since two weeks, i am theproud owner of my first pocket pc, a HTC Blue Angel!
i am now running wm2003, but after reading all those posts about upgrading, i am starting to think about doing so myself! but why should i do this?
what are the big advatages of wm2005 compared to wm2003?
are there disadvantages as well? (regarding stability and bugs?)
i would be really glad if yome of the more experienced ba users here could write down their pros & cons for running WM5/WM3 on the BA!
btw: i read thru xplode's upgrading guide (Guide.pdf) and in the end ("side notes") it says, that i could totally screw my ba when i exceed free sectors of the rom while cooking.... what excactly does this mean? and how can i avoid exceeding free sectors?
I am really looking forward to read your opinions about the two os...
THX IN ADVANCE!
krztf

I would definately go for wm5
main reason is the different memory handling
(no more lose of data after battery runs down)
Just download one of the ready made roms versions.
(as I understand, you are not ready to cook your own rom)
and be sure to read the wiki first
(and this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243732 )
happy flashing
Wout

I could tell you this, my biggest reason to flash my BA to Wm05 because it has a better UI. N my 2nd biggest reason is because a lot of new programs written for wm05
Anyway if you afraid to brick your BA, I suggest you read carefully the wiki n don't use kitchen Rom, just use another rom that already cook by someone else. You could use Rom made by baniaczek or xplode.
I hoped it helps.

Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.

WM5 on Blue Angel is nice. But xplode rom and baniaczek rom are not really stable at the moment.
Tried both rom both got different problems... so I recommend you to wait for final release WM5 rom for BA thats free of bug.(Would it happen?)
Else if you wanted to try, you can try upgrading it... its really nice

Main reason is 60mb free ram..
and no more memory lost after battery going down

aha
thanks for all those answers!!!
but to be honest, i am still not sure if i should upgrade or not....
all those postings (here an din other threads) regarding pda overall speed, bluetooth and wifi problems, etc. make me kinda nervous! and i think, i am still anxious about frying my blue angel,... noobish but what can i do!
regarding the advantage of more free ram and no memory loss after battery's empty: is this really true?! always thought, i would need certain hardware as well, to benefit from this features...?
hope this discussion keeps goin'...
regards,krz

root said:
Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
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I'm using 2003se (rollback wm5->2003), because found some strange problems with baniachek's wm5 bluetooth profiles. ...

all the gory details ....
hi dasboot!
could you please describe those "strange problems"?
btw: does anyone know, if connecting to wlan routers works better with wm2005? as u can read in my other thread HERE, i have serious issues to solve here...
keep on posting!
krz

im rollbacked too.WM5 is nice looking..but for BA useless.
i found that WM3 work much better on it-and more important-the battery time:
wm5=max 8 hours,with mp3 6h
wm3=up to 16h with mp3.normal use 24/36h (older BA )
i use wlan only sometimes on hotspots-and only for e-mails.not a important criteria for me.
but,damn it..i would try out WM6 on it.suddenly it is unable to convert it to BA.

WM5 is not a software, it is one huge BAG!

wm5 is really good and I won't come back to wm2003. I have the R2 by baniaczeck and it works to me like a charm! I advice you to upgrade to wm5

a piece of history

This is where it all began, a rumour.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=217871&highlight=himalaya
No more than 5 years back...

and now..We are running Windows Mobile 6.1
for a device for which WM2003SE wasent even officially released
Salute to Himalaya's ( i mean the deice )

Not only 6.1 but with a choice of touch and cube interfaces and programs.
I'm sorry for all those people who just buy an expensive WM6.x device, who simply use it with the standard software, who still constantly need their stylus and who will never find out what they really bought.
I pitty those who still run WM2003 much more...

well....i still got two himalaya

hmmm 2 Hima..thanks to that theif i havent a single

Ather, watch your language in the presence of a lady and a moderator! Please replace that word? BTW I don't know what happened to your Hima?

lol im sorry....edited my post me lady

to me an xda 2 is very cool.
it's my first touchscreen based windows mobile phone.
my first windows mobile phone was a samsung sgh-i300 (I still own it but I don't know where it is, I think on my desktop somewhere)
I came from my first mobile phone for about 10 years to my second one, 4 years later, a sharp... and 2 years later it was a nokia n-gage qd. then half a year later a nokia 9300.. then a nokia n90. then my windows mobile based samsung, half a year later my Sony Ericsson W 810i (don't know why SOny, it was very important to get a new handy soon, because my Samsung was broken at the Samsung Service). Then, just before 2 months, I got my XDA II !!!
I love it. Of course, no hardware-keyboard, no good sound, giant and fat (thats kinda good for me with my big hands )... The screen isn't very bright , but its big. Is it 3 or 3.5" ? Dont know, but it's enough
Thats my story how I came to this xda2. And to me it's like a new device (I mean those Omap CPUs are just the half of this cpu, ram and rom are just okay... sd slot is very good because cheap) so I think it is one of the oldest BUT BEST handhelds ...

hmm if i stated my device history here..i think 2 posts would be enuf
any way yes the xda2 has 3.5" screen..as for the keyboard try using resco full screen kyboard, Touchpal..
u also forgot the camera quality

long live himalaya
ive been using my himalaya for over 2 yrs now, ive seen lot of new pda coming in and coming out, but the style and the functionality of hima can never be beaten, 400 mhz, upgradeable up to 6.5? who knows, by the end of the year, its gonna be upgradeable to windows 7? hahahaha we wish!

unbeatable himalaya
i've bought this at august 2k8.
very satisfied...i choose himalaya based to advice from little brother of XOJ(indonesian ppc community) moderator, he used BA(the legend coz it's the first BA which used 1st HELMI_C wm6(HELMI cooked on that device))&MPX200, and that made me unpatience to have ppc, coz my budget is too low so i decide to bought himalaya for my first ppc and i've never dissapointed.
old hardware but newest software
thanx to all himalaya master who keep himalaya updated
有り難うございます.
(mean thank you in japanese)

happy with himalaya
my 5 hima's working well with thestuf i get here.
he athar you must live in the netherlands there are anough hima's.
but go one whit the job and make the hima life for ever.
regards,
Chris

Indeed, Himalaya is now limited edition. Take care your Hima well cuz there is not going to be a new one for a replacement. I'm finding good condition Hima with all equipments and box as well; I only found good condition BA.
Anyway, cheers Himalaya users.

Himalaya is great device have ever built from HTC and only could compare with his successor Blue Angel as well which running smoothly from WM2003 until WM6.5, perhaps MS or HTC also never imagine that this device still exist even they always create their new OS or device. Easy come but difficult to let it go...that's Himalaya.

he athar you must live in the netherlands there are anough hima's
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LOL
Indeed, Himalaya is now limited edition
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yup you got that right, they are very limited these days ;/

Unfortunately our hima is showing its age. More and more are getting broken everyday and difficult to find parts. I gave up the ghost on mine (which is actually my wife's who got a newer pda with WM6) about 3 years ago because of a broken charging/usb slot. Can't find anyone who can fix it since the official support shop closed down before it broke. Was just playing with it with its old WM2003 until I found a group of hima users here and I was directed to someone who has the parts and skills to repair it. After that i read through xda-developers and now I have a WM6.5 powered device! How cool is that? Better than my wife's WM6! My only regret is that back then It was easy to find 2nd hand units at low price but never paid attention to it. now I'm trying to find them and they're all gone. Pity.
What I like most about it? The size of the screen. My eyesight is not exactly what it used to be and having that large screen really helps!

Hei..I think it's a good news...
there are a lot of 2nd himalaya @Indonesia,,
and there is 1 shop i've found who claimed can fix the broken usb/pin from himalaya and they said it'll change with the original part of himalaya.

himalaya
hi
Indeed it's impressive to see WM6.5 run smooth on this device, but I wonder what is the advantage of the himalaya over the alpine, on the paper alpine is more powerfull not ? (or I've missed something). and not WM5 or 6 capable ?
Recently i've tryied a game (krally) on the diamond !!! and the speed difference is incredible the same game on himalaya (sun_dream 6.5) is a LOT smoother and faster (I think a vga screen for this size is very useless)
So I am very happy with himalaya thanks to the comunity to keep it alive !!!

i thought i would give up my himalaya, after all, its heavy, its big, the camera is no good, plus my usb connector pins are broken. luckily i was able to upgrade to wm 6.1 before the pins broke.
just before i was gonna give up my old himalaya, i found something that made me keep it. opera mini. although we could have our choice of browsers for this device, opera mini allowed me to use my hima large screen, touch pad to the fullest, i need not say that im experiencing unlimited internet on less than 10pesos prepaid load. thats 25c US cents for limitless surfing.
i may edit this post later but even though i had to buy a separate batt charger for me hima and 2 extra batts, i still love my hima.

should i choose Alpine or Himalaya?

hi guys...
i've been using the himalaya for almost 4years now (bought it brand new for about $750), and last month i got myself a mint Alpine in my hand for about $90
after almost a week sneaking some time in the office to browse the forum, i realized that i can't put WM5/6 in my alpine
too bad, alpine's way better than himalaya (wifi, better bluetooth compatibility, better camera, better stability)
but i'm in a middle of a crossroad here, one of the must go (it would look ridiculous for me to carry 2 XDAs anywhere)
should i choose.......what? can't decide
any "illuminati" from anyone?
(well, to be honest i also had been saving money to buy a decent XDA FLame...cost about $450 2nd mint condition)

hmmm.....
no supportive reply yet?
how sad...

ALPINE!
-Wifi
-Faster cpu
-More ram
Wm2003 is still cool!

Old is gold
If you got a decent backup then 2003 doesn't matter,apart from mail function,but please do check the internal batteries of both the xda devices because my 6.1 himalaya resets after every 2-3 hours and date and time are set to 2005 something but apart from that everything is fine.So do check - compare the hardware.Cheers.

I also have an alpine and a himalaya ...and of course i prefer Alpine. But wm2003 are a bit annoying....i really like wm6 threaded sms :/

thanks for the reply...
really appreciated
@nicktgr15:
yup...too bad alpine can't be upgraded to WM
@kalya:
feel sorry for your problem, but mine's still good.
it's just that the himalaya's battery is dropping (50% and it's dead)
gotta put the 'ol battery out from its misery...
@ShadowswordPL:
couldn't agree more!
...so there's absolutely NO WAY an Alpine used WM6? Oh well....
the reason i want WM6 is that i want to try PointUI, they got their new version for WM6
my friend, who got a cooked Himalaya w/WM6, use it and it looked awesome.

martalegawa said:
thanks for the reply...
really appreciated
@nicktgr15:
yup...too bad alpine can't be upgraded to WM
@kalya:
feel sorry for your problem, but mine's still good.
it's just that the himalaya's battery is dropping (50% and it's dead)
gotta put the 'ol battery out from its misery...
@ShadowswordPL:
couldn't agree more!
...so there's absolutely NO WAY an Alpine used WM6? Oh well....
the reason i want WM6 is that i want to try PointUI, they got their new version for WM6
my friend, who got a cooked Himalaya w/WM6, use it and it looked awesome.
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You can use pointui 1.02 on Alpine. The animation is better than the pointui 2.
for threaded sms you can use VITO SMS chat. and so on.

Windows Mobile 6.5

Hi friends
Is there is any possibility to see WM6.5 for Hima also as Blueangle?
See here
[Release]Windows Mobile6.5(BETA) Professional(QVGA)For_HTC BlueAngel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030

hesham, afaik its not real WM6.5
here is my proof :
DFT said:
Hello sir, First off, congrats on the great release here on xda, and welcome!!
I have noted a couple things in my efforts to dump and port your wm 6.5 build
wince.nls same as 21014 build
mxip_system.vol again no changes in SYS SHELL
compared my 21014 dump and this one i got 325 identical files.
Was wondering if you could speak to what has changed in the base core of the os besides the naming in the shellres.dll.409.mui and the new interfaces you specify
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Also it seems very early beta leakage.
Thanks

i need wm6.5 also.when you have ,please sent to me the link.thanks.

I think it not easy , Wish our Hima can run wm6.5

Well, the problem with WM6.5 is that it's really, and I mean REALLY BIG... many libraries got so huge... there were problems with getting WM6 fit into this tiny 30MB ROM, and now... if it will happen, it will be heavy cut.
Besides.... all the currently leaked versions (till 21159 build) are extremely sloooow.... so we have to wait more.

I porting This Build, but not now