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I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and would like to compare a couple side by side to see the benchmarks with these user-created roms vs 2003se
atom069 said:
I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and only use them for that Unfortunately hah.. :roll:
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Of couse your buddirs live with 2003 because there are no wm5 for BA , we had here base on text rom by HTC which came from last year and a lot of people in here to made it work like Universal or Wizard,you can ask your buddies maybe they dont had wm5 rom for BA. :wink: :wink:
I dont think anyone in MS or HTC will make wm5 rom for BA , if you had buddies why you not ask them about AKU3.0 rom for Universal and Wizard ?
haha do what
We're very Close friends of 14yrs fortunately. We have no loyalty to your boy Billy Gates, Sorry dude hah. I'm sure they are not just trying to get me to buy WM5 products haha
I just like to see forums and the modifed MS WM5 stacks (tisk tisk ) and actually benchmark/test to see who knows what, or who's just throwing something out
As for the other modifed roms you're speaking of, Sell and upgrade to faster model
a QVGA to VGA is like going from radio wave cable to high-definition formatting.
Yo
I will say that MS would be lucky to have any of these developers working for them, cheers to you all!
@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.
I'd totally agree with the above...
Ivan's (or thingonasprings version with the RAMdisk) for speed and basic stability
helmi_c's as it has the new AKU2.3 base with Push Mail etc (but still in dev stage so not 'meant' to be as stable, although I've had no issues as yet!)
I've also found TuMa 1.4 very good, but mainly as I use the BT functionality quite a bit which hasn't ben sorted on the newer ROM's yet.
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@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.
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remember the BA already disconnetion from HTC that's why they dont want to make BA for WM5 , bepe and me working with AKU3 for BA , bepe already made text rom for Himayala he post today,I will try anything I can to make life easy
I know the processor is a bit slow (195MHz) and could be clocked to 240MHz (is it getting warmer if clocked?) --- but, my question qould be is WM6 is going to work on my phone since processor is kind a slowest on the market in pocket pc pda phones.
Tnx
How do YOU define work?
pathfinder7 said:
I know the processor is a bit slow (195MHz) and could be clocked to 240MHz (is it getting warmer if clocked?) --- but, my question qould be is WM6 is going to work on my phone since processor is kind a slowest on the market in pocket pc pda phones.
Tnx
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Several people on this forum are using various cooked roms of WM6, so the short answer is: Yes, it will work but there are issues, all of which are documented in the various WM6 threads here. I suggest you browse through those and find out if the issues are things you can live with. At this point there is no official WM6 wizard rom, and you will not find any direct download or direct links to a download of a WM6 rom as MS has forbidden it for the time being. So don't ask where to get it. Just read and you may figure out where to find it.
People Need to do some reading before doing some posting homie. Not just take the easy way out.
wm6 for wizard was built for the lower speed processor. it will run faster than your wm5 uncooked rom.
works and well
imho the pdaviet is your best bet. I keep my 8125 overclocked to 312mhz all day and with the patch the battery lasts all day and super stable
hello everyone!
since two weeks, i am theproud owner of my first pocket pc, a HTC Blue Angel!
i am now running wm2003, but after reading all those posts about upgrading, i am starting to think about doing so myself! but why should i do this?
what are the big advatages of wm2005 compared to wm2003?
are there disadvantages as well? (regarding stability and bugs?)
i would be really glad if yome of the more experienced ba users here could write down their pros & cons for running WM5/WM3 on the BA!
btw: i read thru xplode's upgrading guide (Guide.pdf) and in the end ("side notes") it says, that i could totally screw my ba when i exceed free sectors of the rom while cooking.... what excactly does this mean? and how can i avoid exceeding free sectors?
I am really looking forward to read your opinions about the two os...
THX IN ADVANCE!
krztf
I would definately go for wm5
main reason is the different memory handling
(no more lose of data after battery runs down)
Just download one of the ready made roms versions.
(as I understand, you are not ready to cook your own rom)
and be sure to read the wiki first
(and this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243732 )
happy flashing
Wout
I could tell you this, my biggest reason to flash my BA to Wm05 because it has a better UI. N my 2nd biggest reason is because a lot of new programs written for wm05
Anyway if you afraid to brick your BA, I suggest you read carefully the wiki n don't use kitchen Rom, just use another rom that already cook by someone else. You could use Rom made by baniaczek or xplode.
I hoped it helps.
Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
WM5 on Blue Angel is nice. But xplode rom and baniaczek rom are not really stable at the moment.
Tried both rom both got different problems... so I recommend you to wait for final release WM5 rom for BA thats free of bug.(Would it happen?)
Else if you wanted to try, you can try upgrading it... its really nice
Main reason is 60mb free ram..
and no more memory lost after battery going down
aha
thanks for all those answers!!!
but to be honest, i am still not sure if i should upgrade or not....
all those postings (here an din other threads) regarding pda overall speed, bluetooth and wifi problems, etc. make me kinda nervous! and i think, i am still anxious about frying my blue angel,... noobish but what can i do!
regarding the advantage of more free ram and no memory loss after battery's empty: is this really true?! always thought, i would need certain hardware as well, to benefit from this features...?
hope this discussion keeps goin'...
regards,krz
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Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
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I'm using 2003se (rollback wm5->2003), because found some strange problems with baniachek's wm5 bluetooth profiles. ...
all the gory details ....
hi dasboot!
could you please describe those "strange problems"?
btw: does anyone know, if connecting to wlan routers works better with wm2005? as u can read in my other thread HERE, i have serious issues to solve here...
keep on posting!
krz
im rollbacked too.WM5 is nice looking..but for BA useless.
i found that WM3 work much better on it-and more important-the battery time:
wm5=max 8 hours,with mp3 6h
wm3=up to 16h with mp3.normal use 24/36h (older BA )
i use wlan only sometimes on hotspots-and only for e-mails.not a important criteria for me.
but,damn it..i would try out WM6 on it.suddenly it is unable to convert it to BA.
WM5 is not a software, it is one huge BAG!
wm5 is really good and I won't come back to wm2003. I have the R2 by baniaczeck and it works to me like a charm! I advice you to upgrade to wm5
Hi people
I have a magician pda (o2xda2mini running on WM 2003SE).I wanted to go for a new one so i found HTC - P4350 to be good.I think its HERALD..Before that i have some quires.If u can plz spend some time...
1.It comes with WM5..Can i upgrade to WM 6 or 6.1?
2.Can i get all those cube and sliding effects like diamond(by installing softwares from xda...)
3.Is it a good phone(speed) coz its only got 200Mhz processor where as my present one(O2 XDA2 mini has 416 mhz)
4.How is the reception?coz my xda2mini sucks
5.DO u have any other good pda's to suggest?TYTNII is too costly.
Plz help me go for a good deal..
Bro (or sis) you can look in forums, use search button and those things...
BUT
1) Wm6 --> Yes
2) Yes, but i dont know how is it performance
3) Well, try to install things in external memory
4) Good
5) TyTN II, my suggested --> HTC Touch (ELFin) <-- my suggested, HTC Shift... ummm perhaps HTC Diamond but im having some strange issues with it
sathya said:
Hi people
I have a magician pda (o2xda2mini running on WM 2003SE).I wanted to go for a new one so i found HTC - P4350 to be good.I think its HERALD..Before that i have some quires.If u can plz spend some time...
1.It comes with WM5..Can i upgrade to WM 6 or 6.1?
2.Can i get all those cube and sliding effects like diamond(by installing softwares from xda...)
3.Is it a good phone(speed) coz its only got 200Mhz processor where as my present one(O2 XDA2 mini has 416 mhz)
4.How is the reception?coz my xda2mini sucks
5.DO u have any other good pda's to suggest?TYTNII is too costly.
Plz help me go for a good deal..
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1. Read all about HARDSPL and USPL but you have to know that there always is a risk that you might brick your phone so yes but risky. If you follow all the instructions though there is a high percentage you can do it but read at least like 6 hours b4 you do anything ^^
2. Yes and performance is good.
3. You can use batterystatus to overclock the cpu to at least 260 thats always stable and it's a nice phone everything I use works flawlessly and the 25ish RAM you got after installing some progs is most of the times enough too.
4. With a custom ROM that has a new radio built in it's perfect never had no reception anywhere but I'm living in a big town in germany so dunno if it's different on the countryside.
5. no
Thank u so much DrogenDiego and tramuyo for replying to my post.
I have been looking to upgrade my Tytn II to the latest ROM however I have not been able to get the upgrade it from HTC.
but its seems to not be there....
My system is
R 1..27.15.32
G 22.51.8.13H
D 1.82.00.00
Now I"m not sure what all those numbers ar efor but I know the R is for radio!!
I got lost after reading that bit... I was going to try to upgrade it myself but got confused so I stopped... trying and thought I'd wait till an update was available from HTC...
Well it seems its not to me anyways...
SO if there is anyone out there that can help me sort out an upgrade..
I live in Brisbane, and use optus as my carrier... my phone is unlocked as far as I know... I purchased it on the net from a Melbourne online store.
So help an Aussie if ya can.....
if you want to upgrade, then please start reading here.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
Why go to WM 6.1?
peto01 said:
6.1 very bad gps.
6.0 good gps
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
Yup tried reading that...
got lost as to what I need to match to what!!!
Like I said I'm looking for a some help to do this .
I"ll have another crack at it though see if I can make sense of any of it...
Peto01 man what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
More reading material
targ said:
what you mean the gps goes crap... in 6.1
Is this only in a few units or every unit.
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Have a look at this thread about *hopeless* GPS after 6.1 update
The problem seems fairly widespread with TyTN II WM 6.1 updates. Since the ROM and Radio on your device seem to be from the Rogers network (as listed in the xda-dev wiki), that may explain why the generic HTC upgrade doesn't work for your device (only genuine HTC TyTN IIs will run the HTC upgrade as-is).
If you're just wanting to upgrade to WM 6.1 because it's the latest, you may be disappointed!
Useful!
I was browsing forum trying to see should I upgrade my stock 6.0 ROM to 6.1. Now I am sure that I will wait for couple more months (weeks?) !
I'm inclined to wait until the next ROM and Radio release has been tested/reviewed
I'm inclined to let someone else be the guinea pig regarding fixing the broken GPS. When a new ROM/Radio Combination is released on HTC eClub/Support, I'll check here to see how reports about GPS performance look and then when I'm sufficiently sure it's not still broken, will again jump over to WM 6.1.
Once bitten, twice shy and I don't want to have to get HTC to revert it to WM 6.0 again!
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Exactly! Having been there, done that and decided to go back to WM 6.0, in my effort to help a fellow person from 'down under', I can tell targ that if he uses (or expects to use) Tomtom or GPS at all on the device, he'd better be very patient at waiting for satellite locks under WM 6.1.
Although HTC have improved some of their WM 6.1 upgrades by using a newer Radio, I've tried the latest WWE version and it's still far short of what my original WM 6.0 implementation achieved as far as GPS performance is concerned. Once you upgrade to 6.1 it's quite a task to go back to WM 6.0 (the spl needs reverting too) so I had HTC do that on my device under warranty.
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I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
ach2 said:
I had the same experience and reverted back to 6.0 roms. BUT I've recently been using Garmins WM6.1 DK3 with radio 1.65.17.56 and the GPS fix is always quick and strong - Works all over UK. This setup may be worth considering.
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I want to keep it all official HTC and not have to use hardspl at this stage, besides I prefer the look of the original HTC setup (themes, icons etc) over the customised Garmin DK3. The latest official HTC ROM for the device uses the same radio as you're using and I was far from satisfied with its reception instability compared to the old WM 6.0 setup. I've sent a letter to the big cheese at HTC so will wait and see what happens!
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network" (WTF) I bought a HTC Tytn II from a Retailer. surely this is not a fake HTC??
Should I be looking at taking it back?
Does this mean I don't have any Warrenty?
This would be why HTC said that the Upgrade is not a suitable for my unit... going by the S/N!!
What am I to DO now.
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
I"m rather intrested in the L26 TL ROM of Leo's
And if I understand it correctly I need to
1. run jump SPL
2. then flash the SPL that suits the rom I go for.
3. flash the Radio
4. Flash the ROM I have choisen.
Then hard reset.
IS that right?
or have I got the order wrong or missed a step.
Just trying to make a simple as I can..
Would my location and carrier make a difference as to which SPL, ROM, RADIO I use.
OH yeah !
What Does the R, D, and G mean...
Well, I finally did my first ROM change (to 6.1) and have to say I don't have any problems at all.
I have a T-mobile Vario 3, that although everything worked, I always found slow and buggy.
I went for Sleuths 6.1 V3 ROM, simply because I was a hermes user before and his stuff was always flawless.......and I was proved right again.
It's really simple to do, contains the correct radio (much better than the shipped one), and is really fast and stable. Had it a week and used it intensively - no problems with Tomtom or GPS - the same, if not better than it was before.
I would suggest, if you're not sure which one to go for then try this and see if it suits you.
Ok I tried to use the link in the WIki to the Jump SPL the latest one that only needs you to follow the on screen info..
And well according to the on screen prompts it must be done but as for the unit its self I don't hink so as nothing really happened on it... I"m thinking that the wizard does not like Vista or it does not like Sync Centre.
anyone able to help me out ....
No WTFs reqd after-all
targ said:
Flying Kiwi,
What do you mean "Rogers network"
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Your Radio (R) is the same as that used by Rogers on their WM 6.0 ROMs. But you're right, I missed the bit about your 1.82 series ROM though so it looks more like you have the 3rd one down the wiki list of HTC WM 6.0 ROMs here and not the first: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Should I be looking at taking it back?
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Not if it currently works as you need it to but you could see what their explanation for why there is no WM 6.1 upgrade for your device yet is. HTC in Australia should also be able to advise you http://www.htc.com/au/about_htc.aspx?id=21840
As for the GPS issue some seem to be having no real issue with cooked roms.
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And some are so are you willing to take that risk as a newbie and get stuck with a non-original non-warrantable installation thats not straight forward to revert back to original WM 6.0 if it plays up for you? Is it not worth liasing with HTC first to see what they have to say about a possible WM 6.1 update if you're really that keen?
AS I live in Australia would I need to get a diff radio then say you in the UK?
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Pass on the Radios but if history is anything to go by, there are a few different ROMs on that wiki page released for Australia. If you do a bit of searching around here I think you'll find cases of peoples non-Australian purchased TyTN IIs having problems when used there as well. I can't recall what the issues were but there definitely were issues (months ago before WM 6.1 came out on the Kaiser). Perhaps a search for Australia just in the Kaiser General or Kaiser ROM Dev forums may yeild results.
Thanks heaps I'll follow your leads Cheers