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Checking internet (HSDPA) speed

Hi,
What is the best (accurate and easy) way to test and measure the speed of the internet connection (3.5G/HSDPA) ?
Any tool or website for this that work with the Kaiser ?
Thanks.

mobile speed test
http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed

generally web speed tests are not very helpful, the file it makes you download is too small and some ISPs (and possibly phone providers) may optimise traffic to them. I normally download a 4mb mp3 file from my webspace and time how long it takes.

Where do you go to find HSDPA? I have enough trouble finding 3G areas around here...

Hmmm ... it seems does not work with the default Internet Explorer (IE) that is in the Kaiser.
It said "Your browser does not fully support JavaScript"
I got that problem on my old HTC Magician (WM2003SE). Even I tried to use Opera 8.6, and got the same problem.
I tought IE in Kaiser is better, but still the same problem.
Is there anything that need to be done?
warwickwebb said:
http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed
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Anyway, I got it. By clicking the 100k button. And the speed was 144 kbit/sec.
Which is quite good in my situation because I have capped data plan: 192 Kbit/sec (unlimited) !

gogol said:
Hi,
What is the best (accurate and easy) way to test and measure the speed of the internet connection (3.5G/HSDPA) ?
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I've just used Internet Sharing via BT and connected my laptop via 3G. I was actually surprised by speeds, as I've got ~150 KB/s transfer straight away, while Hermes/Vario II couldn't get faster than ~60 KB/s! Network: T-Mobile UK, location: central London (Old Street tube station area).

Help with internet sharing/tethering on Vista

OK so I thought I was halfway intelligent about all this but apparently not. I can't seem to get my internet sharing to allow me to tether on my new Tilt. I had it working fine on my Sprint Mogul so I know theoretically how to do it. I have the stock AT&T ROM (allowed customizations; just lazy about figuring out what I'd need of the customizations so I live with the bloat).
I created a shortcut for IntShrUI.exe in my \windows\start menu\programs folder to start the internet shar. I start Internet sharing and select USB and AT&T ISP GPRS (or MEdia Net; same result). It says connected and doesn't give me any errors but I can't seem to connect to anything from my PC or even ping anything. I'm using a Windows Vista PC. While internet sharing is connected I can connect to the web on the phone itself but not from the PC.
I was originally on "PDA Personal Max UNL + 1500 Messages" but I couldn't seem to connect to ISP.CINGULAR and I thought maybe that's why I couldn't tether (and I thought it'd probably prevent me from connecting to my corporate VPN). So I called in and the tech guy said that plan isn't provisioned for ISP.CINGULAR so he switched me to the "older" (his words) PDACnctUntlAdd which is the same price and includes ISP.CINGULAR but not 1500 messages. In hindsight I'm guessing that's not my problem (especially since it didn't fix it) and I'll prob go back to PDA Personal Max with the 1500 messages once I figure out the tethering and assuming it allows me to VPN.
My settings are:
AT&T ISP GPRS
Modem:
APN: isp.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1 (doesn't show it but found that online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
MEdia Net
Modem:
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: ????? (doesn't show it and never looked for online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
I've tried to do it with the proxy disabled (running Disable Proxy from programs) and with it enabled with the same result.
So what can I be doing wrong? I'm sure it's something supremely stupid (if it's not a provisioning problem but how could it be that?) but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Any help greatly appreciated and let me know if there's anything else you'd need to know to get this working.
If it matters I have the following installed:
Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722.HTCHome.Dir.With.Brig htness.Fix.Updated.01OCT2007-schen.cab
duttythroy HTC Audio Manager 1_2_816716.cab
duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder 1.10.1717.2221.cab
duttythroy HTC_SIM_Manager 6.31.cab
duttythroy Task Manager 2_0_30995_1.cab
HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad.cab
Kaiser_BCR World_Card_1_0_070724b_x.cab
Vibra (Switch) 1.32.cab
ComMgr3G(10 Buttons)fixed.cab
cecmd.arm.cab (Total Commander beta 2.5 build 3)
HHCv10b5.CAB (HTC Home Customizer v1.0 beta 5)
LiveSearch.cab
Tillanosoft tGetFile.dll (for pocketnester)
Microsoft Office OneNote Mobile
RViewer.cab
Birdsoft All-in Hold-em
Google Maps

So your device says connected (and can surf the web) but your laptop wont connect?
So is your laptops firewall blocking the network?
Have you tried it over bluetooth, and use the BT PAN option. Select BT in ICS and click connect, and click YES to allow it to be discoverable, then in Vista, click start, connect to, Then click Set up a network or connection. Then scroll down to the bottom option (BT PAN). Click it and it will offer your device's BT PAN, select that and click connect.
Wait for 30 seconds, then open the web.

Solution from ATT-Connect your Laptop/PDA
Here ya go! Tried it myself with the usb. Workin good-ATT has a comm manager app that installs on the laptop.
Here's the link to the ATT support for it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
Alemaker

Thanks for your help; hadn't thought of turning off firewall since it worked with the mogul without doing that. Tried that and it didn't work. Then tried with bluetooth and that didn't work either. Didn't want to use the ATT comm manager on the off chance that they could track tethering usage on it.
And of course it was a stupid thing not to check but something made me try connecting to an IP address and not a URL and BAM! it worked. So I guess I have a DNS problem and not a connection problem.
So now anyone have an idea why the laptop can't resolve DNS but the Tilt can? Should I manually set free public DNS servers on the Tilt? Or on the laptop?

Vista you said? correct?
Try making the network that Vista sees when you connect-private; if it's public,it'll block stuff

Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.

get tethering working yet?
hi,
i have the same issue. have unlimited data plan on my tilt. no problem with connection on my tilt (although i did not put in all that proxy setting crap att asks you to put in).
anyhow
- installed the htc modem driver on my laptop.
- turned on the modem on the tilt
- created a new dialup connection on my xp laptop
---> question here, what is the "phone number" that should be dialed???
--> for [email protected], password is CINGULAR1 also
as a last resort i will try using the att comm manager, but like you i don't really want to do it due to any tracking att may be doing...
would be great to hear if loading that local dns resolves your problem, altho it seems kinda clugey (sp?)

lol-
ya'all kill me.
Anything at all,including data; going through any major network in the U.S., is tracked- period. Cell calls,data,internet connections, and even landline calls are ALL tracked in the U.S. now. Thanks to the current administration, EVERYTHING is tracked.
Alemaker

I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
@jprai I did get tethering working by just changing my DNS settings on the laptop to free servers. I'm not using wireless modem but the Internet Sharing app on the PocketPC (go to \Windows and copy the shortcut "internet sharing.lnk" to your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory and then you'll be able to start the app easily). It's much easier to use (well now that the DNS issue was figured out).
I'm still very curious why DNS isn't working for me with the default settings and it does for everyone else but I'm OK with this work-around for the time being.

erikk said:
I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
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Sorry for gettin us off topic with this,p but, yup^^^^), and glad ya got tethering working!
Alemaker

erikk said:
Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.
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This did the trick for me, thanks!
For those not fully aware of how to do this, connect your phone with ICS, go to network connections (control panel->network and sharing center->manage network connections), right click on the phone's connection (hover over them if you're not sure about which is which... mine said NDIS something or other), go to properties, click on TCP/IPv4, go to properties, and then give it the DNS addresses listed above.
Thanks!
-Taylor

Internet Sharing - Bad Connectivity

I’m here on the coast at Keesler Air Force base. There is no internet to speak of and I do not want to spend roughly $1,400 to obtain it through a Cell provider for my laptop. I setup the Internet Sharing on my TILT and it works somewhat. Well, I lied. It stays “connected” however the damn thing peers off and the laptop continuously loses connectivity.
I only use Skype and sometimes webmail with the Internet Sharing and it cannot handle it. Every minute, sometimes up to six minutes, Skype videocalls and standard webcalls are dropped and I test the internet connection to see that it’s timing out for another minute or so and then it magically reappears.
I closed all applications and the antivirus crap to ensure that there was no extra throughput bandwidth. Anyway, I’m about to lose my damn mind here because I cannot stay in contact with my fiancée who’s on the other side of the globe right now.
According to the phone I’m only getting the Edge network and that makes sense as there are not 3G towers nearby. The signal continually shifts from two bars to four bars. I have used the Kraiser Tweak to enable HDSPA but that service is not being picked up.
Any ideas as to how I can keep the connectivity from dropping between the cellphone and the laptop? I assume that’s the issue as the phone stays “Status: connected” within the Internet Sharing application.
If it matters, I can only use the "Media Net" option under Network Connections. Media Net utilizes the wap.cingular access point.
I have tried to use the "ATT ISP GPRS" option but it continually loops through attempts to connect to the internet. Eventually it gives up without any success. The ATT ISP GPRS uses the isp.cingular access point.
Please any assistance would be most appreciated. This United States Airman is about to lose is frigging mind over the fact that he can’t communicate with anyone any longer. Ugh!!!
Thanks to any thoughts and advice to better my situation...
Oh and for the record, if it isn't understood being a Tilt, my provider is ATT.

HSDPA will not work without 3G service. MEdia Net is the best way to tether, I use it all the time. Make sure the proxy option is unchecked, or you will get very poor speeds and high latency.

What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.

crypted said:
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
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You mentioned HSDPA, so that's why I said it. As for ATT ISP GPRS, you do not want to use that unless you have a modem tethering option on your AT&T account. If you go under MEdia Net settings, and then check the Proxy tab, make sure the proxy option is unchecked.

Allrighty, I've confirmed that the Proxy is not enabled. The only thing on the Proxy option section that is enabled is the first option where it says this network connects to the internet.
Any ideas on stabilizing internet on a 2 - 3 bar Edge network? If I do more than one task (more than one website OR a website and Skype) the internet gets lost quite easily...
Thanks a lot man.

Wow when I was over that way I dont recall have any issues with ATT and internet. When I access the net while tethered I use the ATT program that connects via laptop... Its not the internet sharing program.... Its called ATT Communication Manager... It may read as being tethered so if you dont have tethering on your plan then I dont know if id use it. If you have tethering it works great for me. Heres a link for the download...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt

You might want to try flashing another rom and radio. I remember I had an issue similar to this with my hermes from ATT. Swapping to another radio can definitely boost your signal quality. If your signal drops too low even for a second, it can cause major latency issues on the edge network( which WILL cause skype to dop a call ) . I recommend trying a ROM that already has a radio packaged in with it to save you the trouble of having to match a radio to a rom. Also look for one that has the network configuration cab built in so it can automatically set up your Connection settings for you.
Hope this helps

Allrighty... I don't have much time to research ROMS or RADIOS unfortunately. Any suggestions on where to find them, or what I might use? I'd almost prefer just to change RADIOS so long as I can find the original RADIO to replace any changes back to what I was using...
Currently, I have:
ROM 1.62.502.0
RADIO 1.27.14.09
Any help to further this US Airman along would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Anyone got Youtube and Gmail working on Vodafone Romania?

Just curious if u did, I have the 4 euros/500 mb a month option.
What i mean by that is does the phone's oulook connect to gmail account or does the youtube player play videos on a gprs connection (or is it hsdpa?).

Yes, all on HSDPA normally. And gmail works in outlook, automatically sets up as an IMAP server (enable imap in GMAIL though).
Flawless.l
Good luck. When experiencing connection problems, look if vodafone auto-setup enables a proxy. Disable it (but be sure it don't cost any extra $$, normally not).

buciuman said:
Just curious if u did, I have the 4 euros/500 mb a month option.
What i mean by that is does the phone's oulook connect to gmail account or does the youtube player play videos on a gprs connection (or is it hsdpa?).
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Whether it is GPRS or HSDPA depends on the settings. If phone setting is set to 3G, it will pick up HSDPA it signal strenght is good and it will pick GPRS if your settings are GSM and/or UMTS signal is weak.

Mmm yes but does your connection manage to connect to streaming media like youtube and does outlook work?
Mine work fine on wifi but on 3G for example, outlook says "Error syncronizing" and pops up the 3G connections buble. Browser works fine though.

tnyynt said:
Whether it is GPRS or HSDPA depends on the settings. If phone setting is set to 3G, it will pick up HSDPA it signal strenght is good and it will pick GPRS if your settings are GSM and/or UMTS signal is weak.
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tnyynt - does your vodafone GPRS config involve using proxy servers? I think this must be the problem for gmail, especially since they want us to use ssl now.
Some folks are not routed through proxies and thus can acces the gmail IMAP server.
If you have your config written somewhere, maybe I can take a look at it?

buciuman said:
tnyynt - does your vodafone GPRS config involve using proxy servers? I think this must be the problem for gmail, especially since they want us to use ssl now.
Some folks are not routed through proxies and thus can acces the gmail IMAP server.
If you have your config written somewhere, maybe I can take a look at it?
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To be quite honest, I never use my provider's data connection, only WiFi and the MMS connection.
Also, I'm on prepaid, so settings are different, and NO, mine do not include proxy. Did you set your settings up with Connection Manager?
Might take a look here and enter your settings manually (don't get confused by the Trinity page, it's the only supporting all connections).

Mine work fine on wifi but on 3G for example, outlook says "Error syncronizing" and pops up the 3G connections buble. Browser works fine though.
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So does mine. I've read a lot on this forum and I never can make it work on 3G only on wifi. Same with youtube - only wifi works. Maybe is our sh...y Vodafone Romania...

camil said:
So does mine. I've read a lot on this forum and I never can make it work on 3G only on wifi. Same with youtube - only wifi works. Maybe is our sh...y Vodafone Romania...
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Yes I read somewhere only port 80 works (which is the standard http port). Also somehow POP3 might work but pop3 is ****tier than IMAP, I'm going to dig around more on this and if i find anything else i'll keep u guys posted.

hey there. vodafone here as well. i was thinking of getting that 4 euro extraoption too but in my city (oradea, and bucuresti from october) there are plenty of free wi-fi connections available; although it consumes more battery, the connection speeds are far better and, most importantly, FREE.
youtube and gmail works perfectly fine

iliescu902 said:
hey there. vodafone here as well. i was thinking of getting that 4 euro extraoption too but in my city (oradea, and bucuresti from october) there are plenty of free wi-fi connections available; although it consumes more battery, the connection speeds are far better and, most importantly, FREE.
youtube and gmail works perfectly fine
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Off topic: I'm from Oradea too but I don't know that many.

andFTP problem...

Hi all, I have a strange problem and wondered if anyone could think why it won't work.
I am trying to get access to my work FTP server via andFTP. Now it works fine on my home WiFi (so not an internal external issue) but can't get it to work over the 3G. Does anyone have any idea why this may be or am I just best off trying a different client?

If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.

ZigmaDK said:
If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.
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Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify though it is definately working externally as I can access my works FTP server fine from my home via wifi, even though they are on completely different networks so I know the routing and forwarding etc. is correct from the FTP server end. I just cant work out why it wont connect over 3G.

Can you login to your FTP from work? Or just outside your own network?
It is not the same that you can connect to an outside FTP, that it is to connect from the outside to your internal FTP.
You need to forward port 21 in your router to your FTP server's IP address. Otherwise it wont work.

ZigmaDK said:
If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.
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I can log-in internally when connected to WiFi, I can log-in externally when connected to WiFi, I can't log-in via 3G at all (SocketException). I may well try another FTP client, any recommendations.

So if you connect to a WiFi that isn't your own, you can still log in?
If that is so, then I guess they might have blocked FTP transfers over your 3G network.
It works on mine, thats why it sounds wierd to me, and the only difference is more or less the mobile company.

ZigmaDK said:
So if you connect to a WiFi that isn't your own, you can still log in?
If that is so, then I guess they might have blocked FTP transfers over your 3G network.
It works on mine, thats why it sounds wierd to me, and the only difference is more or less the mobile company.
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spot on... after trying a new FTP client and that not working I have done a bit of digging on the web and it seem's t-mob uk block FTP transfers. Anyone else on the same provider confirm this?

That sucks
Try to call t-mobile and ask them if this is just a bug, or if it was intended.

tell me about it! Gonna give them a ring when I get five minutes although I can imagine the call now...
Me: Hello, I cant seem to access FTP via my mobile internet.
T-Mob: Whats FTP???
Me: Could you please open Port 21 so I can access my work files.
T-Mob: No, but did you hear about the great new services you are entitled to for just £xx a month...

cyberkid2002 said:
spot on... after trying a new FTP client and that not working I have done a bit of digging on the web and it seem's t-mob uk block FTP transfers. Anyone else on the same provider confirm this?
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FYI, I can ftp my home ftp server no problems over T mobile network using AndFTP.
It could well be how they have you set up, and what package you are signed up for, If you got a G2 from tmobile, I was told there is a specific set they have for you if you have a G2

thanks for the info Higgsy...
As an update to this I have just gotten off the phone to T-Mobile CS and have to say they were very helpful. Although the guy was unsure at first why it wan't letting me get through to FTP he suspected it could be due to not having 'web n walk plus' (£7.50 per month instead of £5). Due to a long wait he added this to my account free of charge.
The problem hasn't gone away yet but he did say it could take up to 24 hours to go through.
Will keep this post updated and let you know if it gets sorted.

I thought it might be that, I used to get this issue trying to access certain things on my old e71 when I had standard web and walk set up. I was actually told by a tech support guy, who was also very helpful that the G1/G2 needed a specific web and walk/account set up.

a quick update to this and 24 hours on unfortunately the upgrade to w+w plus doesnt seem to have fixed things, have decided to give this a miss now and wait for something like a dropbox app to come along.
On the plus side I yet again mentioned my poor internet speed (was averaging around 300-350kbps) so he had a look at the account. Despite being told on several occasion before there was no issue he had a look at the profile assigned to the account and found that, surprise-surprise, I was being throttled at 3g speeds. A few minutes and a phone reset later I am getting speeds in excess of 1500kbps! Hurrah!

I'm not sure what AndFTP's default is, but maybe you want to check that you are using passive mode (it's in the Advanced tab).