Hello all....thank you for this great forum........I am a new user here and I have read many posts but didn't find the solution to my problem.....I hope You guys will help.....!!
I want to know.....how can I check that my phone is CID locked.......I have a G4 MDA.........and my phone is not SIM locked.........!!
One more qusetion....Is the wm5 AKU 3.3 rom safe for me......??
THANKS IN ADVANCE..........
no rom is safe. they all make you grow feathers and cluck like a chicken.
if you want your phone CID unlocked...just go through the steps to unlock it and if it's already unlocked then trying to unlock it again will do no harm (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292)
concerning the AKU 3.3 ROM by Faria/Molski...no cooked ROM is 100% safe but this is as close as you're gonna get to it
*edit* this would probably best be posted in the G4 subforum though
Thankyou for answering but my question is still unanswered....
I just want to know.......Is there any way to check whether my phone is CID locked or not........
Simple rule: if you didn't unlock... it's CID-locked
I know only one way (not preffered). Flash a 3.x G4 rom with only an OS in it. If you're OS version doesn't change... you CID-locked.
there is no safe way to check your CID. You can try flashing your phone. If it went
(a) unsuccessfull OR
(b) brick your phone
it means your phone is CID locked.
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I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
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aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck
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Nextasy said:
moyofalaye said:
Please whats the best solution to making the wizard with G4 chip cid unlock ?
is it by going to http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php or
something else?
thank you very much in advance to those who know or can help
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hy
Search the forum for "lokiwiz " (sorry, i dont have the thread) v. 2b should be able to unlock the CID. There is also version 3 available but i guess any will do.
You have to be logged in to be able to download it.
Good luck
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thank you very much. I have gone through if not all the threads about upgrading. I noticed that people who had the G4 chip had problems upgrading . and some people have also said that you cant unlock the cid of the G4 (spl/ipl with .001 at the end).
I am looking for how to acheive the unlocking of the cid, hence i will be able to do upgrades and downgrades as i wish.
I think http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php is good & cheaper for cid unlock, as compare to other method. The JAxxx method will cost you around EURO 85 to buy the dongle & 1 unlock credit & you have to wait for the dongle to arrive.
If you just want flashing PDA into other language on G4 PDA, you can use update_utility_no_id , no need cid unlock. Search this xda-developers.com forum for the tool.
Even after CID unlock, Downgrade a g4 rom to a g3 rom, from my experience, the radio will not run properly. A G4 PDA can only use a G4 rom. A G3 PDA can use a G4 rom , because the G4 shipped rom has 2 IPL & SPL, will fit both e.g. 2.21 IPL & 2.21.0001 IPL
Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
mengesb said:
Currently you are right - A G4 rom cannot be unlocked free via any software available on this site. If you truly want to unlock you're phone, you're going to have to pay.
That noted, you will always have to make sure that the ROM you're flashing will not replace your bootloader (which is a safe way to go anyway) or flash with a newer bootloader than what you have (which is the IPL/SPL 2.x). Do not ever go backwards (1.x bootloaders) because you will brick your device.
The only saving grace you can give an attempt to is the lokiwizMSL03a or lokiwiz03a programs by machinagod. I cannot confirm if these have or have not worked with a G4 chipset wizard.
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
Thanks again to everyone.
moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.
kyphur said:
moyofalaye said:
Ok so if i was to use the http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php to cid unlock the g4 wizard, i wont need to worry about what rom im flashing, i wont need to worry about the spl/ipl ? So basically your saying all the flexibility of the G3 will be available for the G4 ?
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Wrong.....
The Custom "Cooked" Roms on this site only contain the IPL/SPL for G3 as that is the most common chip.
Also 1.x Roms have no G4 bootloaders.
Even CID unlocked you will be limited to "Official" Roms or "Cooked" Roms either missing Bootloader or specifically with G4 Bootloader.
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thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?
moyofalaye said:
thanks that clears up alot of questions, one more thing i need to know, cause i have started working on the wiki. the G4 and the G3 versions, are they limited only to the tmobile vario or all types of wizards. ?
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It can be any descendant of the Wizard from what I hear, either a model 100 or 200, be it a Cingular 8125, or a T-Mobile MDA. Always check your SPLs before flashing. The phone you save just may be your own.
mengesb said:
Safe bet currently for G4 wizard owners - pay to get the thing unlocked; you won't brick your device.
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Why pay for something you can have: free, better, safer???
Don't CID unlock your device, it's a waste of time and money. The best solution is, IMHO, to remove the IPL/SPL parts from the ROM you want to install: it'll take you only 2 minutes! This solution is also better than CID unlocking in three aspects:
- It's free. No need to comment on this
- It's better: in a CID unlocked G4 phone, you cannot install the home-made ROMs you find in this forum (like summitter's ones or MrClean). If you cook your own ROM, on the contrary, you can install whichever 2.x ROM you like
- It's safer: if you correctly remove the IPL and SPL parts from the ROM you want to install, the event of a major damage (bricking) is highly unlikely. Even if your PC crashes or there's a power outage in the middle of the upgrade you will still be able to boot your device and to repeat the upgrade!
To remove IPL/SPL from a ROM of your choice, you can follow this tutorial i wrote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.
Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool. It is exactly that, what I wont know !!
So Can I cook my own ROM for G4 and G3 device (I have Extension ROM and Splash screen). It is be sufficient translate the ROM in "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"?
For example aku 3.2 Os and my own Extended ROM and Splash Screen.
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Yes!
Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?
Johnnnnnnnnnny said:
Cool 2: :lol:
So I will make that ROM when I will have my device again. Perhaps I will share it if will work done
Need I the file enterbootloader.exe if I dont want to flash IPL/SPL ?
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You need all the files in the RUU archive. Just follow the tutorial i told you about. bye
Also: CAN YOU PLS CHANGE THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD??? IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE A WORKING SOLUTION BUT ACTUALLY IT IS THE OPPOSITE: YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT. ADD A "?" IN THE TITLE!
Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.
Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.
I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.
First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.
Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.
hey folks. i think i need to reflash my spv m3000 because it keeps restarting and the phone is reaaaly sluggish..
IPL 1.09
SPL 1.09
GSM 01.04.10
OS 1.9.1.1
This is what i have got. i have no clue whatsoever if this rom is good or not but it doesn;t seem to do the trick for me..
i have be reading for some weeks but i am still unsure wether my phone is CID locked or not. or what rom should or can i use.
i still don;t understand the G3 G4 difference and why everybody talks about 2.xx spl and ipl and i have 1.09....
could anybody please translate all this technical details into english? i have no intention of bricking the device..so i am folowing the advice in all tutorials "if u n't know what you are doing ..ask first"
i have some more questions:
are the new roms more stable or at least faster? because this one keeps restarting randomly.
cand somebody really give me some step by step information on what i need to do?
how can i back up this original firmware..so if the upgrade doesn't work i would still be able to reflash it back
i am mentioning that the phone was sim locked and i uset lokiwiz tool to unlock it.
ftp://xda:[email protected]_US_226102_22610105_022511_WWE_Ship.exe
I would use this one, it's safe, original.
i would appreciate if you could answer al my q's..i am not ready to flash it without knowing if i am cid ocked and what is that...etc
I thought you mentioned you unlocked it.
The ROM is stable, all the posts like Beta, Unhappyhousewife etc. have thgis one as basis.
About your Backup, to be honest I don't have clue because I never had or wanted to go back.
ok. my main concern is about the 1.xx spl and ipl comaptibility. all i could find aroundhere was said about 2.xx
i am afraid to upgrade untill i know for sure what my 1.xx means in practical terms
did u have 1.xx before upgrading?
I did,yes.
Most of us start with 1.
thanx man. so without sounding stupid i will ask for final instructions.
correct me if i'm wrong.
i will have to cid unlock the devicei first using lokiwiz 2
then i will be able to use the rom u suggested?
Hello!
Just installed the latest Xelencin's ROM ( http://xelencin.shackspace.com/wizard/index.html ) that has a built in CID UnLocking mechanism. My question is if I want to try and install Molski's ROM, will it install or not? Or I have to apply CID UnLock procedure everytime when I install a ROM?
As long as you don't go back to a 1.x ROM, you can flash and reflash to your heart's content... But its good to go back to a stable ROM (like the T-Mobile 2.26 Ship) just to have a stable base for the new ROM to work off of (or thats my understanding ). If you do go back down to a 1.x ROM for some reason, then you do need to do the CID unlock procedure again (including loading a good 2.x ROM at the end so you have IPL and SPL at 2.x).
Thanks for your quick reply. I asked this question since I want to compare Faria, Xelencin, and Molski ROM's and see which one is the best and fastest and in which one does the video recording does not do any flickering.
OK one more time. I don't need to CID UnLock anymore as long as I stay on 2.xx ROM. So if I go back to the T-Mobile Original ROM, it will not remove the CID UnLocking right?
tariq_niazi said:
OK one more time. I don't need to CID UnLock anymore as long as I stay on 2.xx ROM. So if I go back to the T-Mobile Original ROM, it will not remove the CID UnLocking right?
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Correct. MFRAZZZ had a great point, it is generally a good idea to flash the official TMobile between ROM trials, for some reason the MDA seems happier and the phone doesn't seem to develop a "hangover". Also, when you flash, let the phone sit a few minutes before you start poking around, again they seem happier when they get a chance to rest a little bit. Urban legend? Maybe. Fewer problems? Definately.
--M
Thanks for your answer. Understand what to do now.