Hello!
Just installed the latest Xelencin's ROM ( http://xelencin.shackspace.com/wizard/index.html ) that has a built in CID UnLocking mechanism. My question is if I want to try and install Molski's ROM, will it install or not? Or I have to apply CID UnLock procedure everytime when I install a ROM?
As long as you don't go back to a 1.x ROM, you can flash and reflash to your heart's content... But its good to go back to a stable ROM (like the T-Mobile 2.26 Ship) just to have a stable base for the new ROM to work off of (or thats my understanding ). If you do go back down to a 1.x ROM for some reason, then you do need to do the CID unlock procedure again (including loading a good 2.x ROM at the end so you have IPL and SPL at 2.x).
Thanks for your quick reply. I asked this question since I want to compare Faria, Xelencin, and Molski ROM's and see which one is the best and fastest and in which one does the video recording does not do any flickering.
OK one more time. I don't need to CID UnLock anymore as long as I stay on 2.xx ROM. So if I go back to the T-Mobile Original ROM, it will not remove the CID UnLocking right?
tariq_niazi said:
OK one more time. I don't need to CID UnLock anymore as long as I stay on 2.xx ROM. So if I go back to the T-Mobile Original ROM, it will not remove the CID UnLocking right?
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Correct. MFRAZZZ had a great point, it is generally a good idea to flash the official TMobile between ROM trials, for some reason the MDA seems happier and the phone doesn't seem to develop a "hangover". Also, when you flash, let the phone sit a few minutes before you start poking around, again they seem happier when they get a chance to rest a little bit. Urban legend? Maybe. Fewer problems? Definately.
--M
Thanks for your answer. Understand what to do now.
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I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
Re: Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if an
aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?
Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.
Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.
I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.
First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.
Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.
ok so i kinda f'ed up my phone..
the specs are
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
and i decided to flash the radio rom 2.47.11 and now it freezes when i try to enter in my password at start up..i read that what i need to do is get it into bootloader and flash a 2.x rom on it but when i try to pres the reset button and the 2 buttons on the right side it just normally starts up..also how would i upgrade to a 2.x rom..or is there any way to downgrade back to the stock radio rom? also my phone is unlocked
thanks
keith
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could i downlod the RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe rom and flash that onto my phone and have it work...still cant figure out how to get the bootloader screen to come up
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
CID unlock it while it is still working with your current ROM
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
Then stick Molskis G3 ROM on it and you will be sorted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274316
for more info.
woudl i be able to go to htc.com and upgrade do the rom upgrade there without havin to cid unlock?
Yes, you can upgrade a Cing 8125 with the officially released Rom (as posted on HTC's Website) without CID unlocking your device.
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
keith1569 said:
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
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Official Rom Updates include the IPL/SPL. If you download and flash the Cingular 2.25 Rom you will have IPL/SPL 2.25 after the flash.
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
keith1569 said:
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
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Keith,
If you plan to install cooked Roms then you should CID unlock your phone. Technically CID Unlocking voids your warranty (though I had no problems getting warranty exchange on two previous phones that were CID unlocked).
The main reason to CID Unlock is that you can then install most (generally all) Roms that exist for your device. The only exception would be a G4 only Rom (which has the G4 IPL/SPL only) as your phone is a G3.
If you don't CID unlock then you can't install non-cingular Roms that include IPL/SPL so basically you would have to cook your own Rom if T-Mobile released an OS update that you wanted to use.
I would suggest you do some more reading before you CID unlock or flash anything else to your device.
ok bro thanks for the detailed explanation. I will.def do a lot more reading before I flash my phone or cid unlock it..this is a great forum full of useful information
keith1569 said:
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
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Where did you get the radio rom from ????? Do you have a link ????
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
keith1569 said:
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
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Ok i'll search for it thought maybe you had a direct link lready ....
Hi
I am sorry to ask this stupid question, I know its been discussed a lot of times but please help me understand it.
I am using Dopod 838 with Mr. Clean ROM and this is how IPL/SPL look like in my device:
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Now I want to upgrade to Molski's AKU2.3 ROM at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
These are my questions:
- Do I really need to CID unlock dopod 838 to install it? Last time when I flashed Mr. Clean ROM, I didnot really do CID unlock, why do I need it now?
- what happens if I go ahead and install this ROM without CID unlocking my device?
greatly Appreciate your help.
if you know it has been discussed before why not search for the answer, either here or google it. i'm a newb as well i don't know everything so i can't help but the search feature is your friend. or you can be like some of the other newbs and just try it and possibly brick your phone your call
sasa123 said:
Hi
I am sorry to ask this stupid question, I know its been discussed a lot of times but please help me understand it.
I am using Dopod 838 with Mr. Clean ROM and this is how IPL/SPL look like in my device:
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Now I want to upgrade to Molski's AKU2.3 ROM at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
These are my questions:
- Do I really need to CID unlock dopod 838 to install it? Last time when I flashed Mr. Clean ROM, I didnot really do CID unlock, why do I need it now?
- what happens if I go ahead and install this ROM without CID unlocking my device?
greatly Appreciate your help.
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Answers: 1)Yes 2)you probably end up with a brick--and not the kind you can build with but the kind that breaks a window well when you throw it.
--M
^^^ hahahah LOL
demontefixo said:
Answers: 1)Yes 2)you probably end up with a brick--and not the kind you can build with but the kind that breaks a window well when you throw it.
--M
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LOL
Thanks for the reply. ok, so I need to CID unlock. But I still wonder, why I did not need to CID unlock it when I flashed Mr. Clean rom.
And in Faria's CID unlock instructions, I have a doubt. Once I downgrade ROM to 1.x and unlock, do I flash Mr. Clean ROM first and then to Molski's ROM? or I can directly flash to Molski's after downgradin to 1.x ROM.
Simple answer is that Mr Clean's ROM does not contain the bootloader that is the IPL/SPL bit ok.
Riptos
riptos said:
Simple answer is that Mr Clean's ROM does not contain the bootloader that is the IPL/SPL bit ok.
Riptos
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I think it does contain because it changes the IPL/SPL after upgrade and including start up screen
If you are CID locked you WILL NOT be able to flash any other ROM other than your vendor supplied ROMs UNLESS it does not contain the bootloader (IPL/SPL).
Riptos
Mr. Cleans does the CID unlocking bit for you if i am not mistaken...
But just to be sure, just do another round of CID unlocking procedure to make sure it's really unlocked...
Dr. Puttingtam's instructions seems to work fine with anyone's who did it correctly.
Molski's ROM do contain IPL/SPL, but they are for G3 Wizards only...To be sure that you had the correct bootloaders, try flashing to the last T-Mobile US ROM (the 2.26 version), set Active Sync to guest mode and then flash Molski's ROM...
Hope it goes fine with you
vseehua said:
Mr. Cleans does the CID unlocking bit for you if i am not mistaken...
But just to be sure, just do another round of CID unlocking procedure to make sure it's really unlocked...
Dr. Puttingtam's instructions seems to work fine with anyone's who did it correctly.
Molski's ROM do contain IPL/SPL, but they are for G3 Wizards only...To be sure that you had the correct bootloaders, try flashing to the last T-Mobile US ROM (the 2.26 version), set Active Sync to guest mode and then flash Molski's ROM...
Hope it goes fine with you
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Thanks vseehua. I guess I am clear now. Will try it this weekend and will let you know how it goes. Thanks again to all for your comments and suggestions. I hope I dont brink it
Hello all,
I recently inherited an HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125), IPL/SPL 2.25 (So its a G3 right?) running WM5. Ive been doing a lot of reading over the last week or so and have decided that this phone is just too boring as is.
Ive been looking over all of the roms/themes that I can find to spice it up and have narrowed it down to a few. But before I start messing with it, I have decided to run it by all of you and get your opininons.
From what I understand, before I can load any roms, I need to CID unkock the phone, which will require me to first load the Button 1.05 Rom (can I load the Button Rom with the phone locked?). Then I will run Lokiwiz02b to unlock it. Reload Button 1.05 if IPL/SPL are not both 1.05. Then load the T-Mobile 2.26 for a solid foundation. (I will be working step by step off Dr. Puttingham's Definitive Guide to Unlocking and Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.)
If my process above is incorrect, please let me know. I will hate to brick a phone I just got.
Next I am considering which rom to install. I really like TouchFlo and am strongly considering TNT Pro, SNN Diamond and Black Diamond 3.1. I want this phone to have a sleek interface and lots of functionality (extras) and it needs to be quite bug free; if it crashes everytime I try some routine task it will not be worth doing.
Here are the files that I have and how I will use them.
Wizard_Button_Rom.exe
-I will run this first to downgrade my current rom to 1.05.
-I will likely run it again after the CID unlocking to match IPL/SPL @ 1.05.
lokiwiz02b.zip
-This is run after the Button Rom as per instructions from Dr. Puttingham to CID Unlock the phone.
ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship. exe
-This is the T-mobile 2.26 rom which will be installed after the phone is @ IPL/SPL 1.05 and CID Unlocked.
Question: Will this rom install a bunch of T Mobile Crap? I know the Cingular/Att Roms always have a bunch of stuff to get you to sign up for and spend your money on things you dont want. Making your home screen ugly.
IPL_SPL_3.08.rar
-I do have this file, but don't plan on using it. Is there any reason why I should? It was mentioned in Dr. Puttinghams guide as an alternate option to the T-Mobile Rom but the file size is 1:100th the size so I dont understand how it could replace it.
Next is the final Rom.
I have 3 versions of TNT:
TNT.19199_Professional_Wizard.rar
TNT.19209_Professional_Wizard_TouchFlo_FREE[www.ppcplanet.net].rar
TNT.20273_Professional_Wizard_HTC_Home_FREE.rar
Black Diamond:
BlackDiamond_3.1_Touch.rar
SNN Diamond:
SNN_Diamond.rar
Does anyone have any suggestions on which rom to choose? They all seem good to me.
Can anyone verify my steps above? Have I omitted anything or are there any steps that I can omit? (Like the T-Mobile 2.26 Rom.)
I plan on using this phone in the US through ATT. Will there be any conflicts with these roms?
Thank you guys so much. Especially you chefs!
-Steve
Unlock Necessary?
Is it even necessary to unlock the phone? I plan on using it on the same network it was designed for and I believe that these roms do not effect the the IPL/SPL.
There is just so much information and so many possibilities that I am having a hard time figuring out what info is for me and what is not.
Of course I would like to move away from WM5 and on to WM6.1.
Search for the Wizard Service Tool, it will CID unlock your phone, I did mine.
I downloaded the file WST_v4.2.2.zip. I am waiting on the Data Cable so I will be unlocking in a day or so. After unlocking with this program, my phone will be exactly as is, but unlocked correct? There will be no need to go through the downgrade then upgrade steps?
Since you have a G3, you must do the following:
Actual Status: IPL/SPL 2.xx
Download and flash Button 1.05 - to downgrade
IPL/SPL 1.05 will be your status after that
Download to your PC WST -Wizard Service Tool (can be used only with IPL/SPL 1.xx)
Follow the instructions
Unlock CID - you must be Supercid after that
Unlock SIM - If you want
Download and flash carrier rom you must be 2.xx after that
and then, you are able to flash any cooked rom you want
Do the steps...
Yes your steps are great understanded so do it!!!!
Answers to your questions....
1.- YES YOU HAVE A G3
2.- YES YOU CAN LOAD BUTTON ROM WITH A LOCKED CID/SIM
3.- ALL ORIGINAL ROMS HAVE THIS KIND OF STUFF 2.26 LESS THAN 3.08
4.- NO A STRONG REASON TO FLASH WITH 3.08 OR 2.26 IS THE SAME (...Well not the same the 3.08 WM5 original rom has push email and 2.26 dont has it, the diference betwen this is not important to flash a WM6 or 6.1)
5.- TNTs rom... try the TNT .20273 but beta 3 is better just click on the Mr TNT's picture and search it. About all roms the one that has less issues is this WM6.1 new icons and diamond style!!!! personaly I dislike the other but I can tell you and its for sure!!!!! you will reflash your phone to much times searching for the one that match to your convenience... all of we do it so... your PDA will crash so much times untill you get the one that matches to you... Like GIRLS MEN!!!!!!!!
You are ready to reflash your PDA...
I extremely recomend you to unlock your PDA Totally for all the ROMS. the signal will change is normaly... so remember the Radio Version GSM on ipl and spl Screen at boots, wich one you have now, and try search it... or get other that works ... of course if you have troubles.
Please edit your profile to see more info about your device and can help you eficiently.