Definative 1-2-3 guide - P3600 Software Upgrading

No doubt i will get in trouble for this but !!
is there a definative guide to flashing the trinity
i have trawled the forum and cannot work out what to do..there is lots of information but it seems to messy for me to understand
if i use hardsspl it tried to upgrade to an older version...
mine is 1.23.....
its want to install 1.20 is this good ??? i dont know
i also wanted to try the new wm6 roms but i get error 246 when it starts to install.
The info is scatered around alot, and the wiki wasnt that helpfull either..
or maybe im just a fuktard...
forget it for me as i have worked out how to do it...but others might..

I don't think going from 1.23 to 1.20 is considered an UPgrade.

Nelkz,
Go the the Wiki page for the Trinity:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
Read through this thoroughly before upgrading. The key is to understand how you flash back the ROM you currently have, in case of a problem. Back up everything on your Trinity & storage card before doing anything.
Remember, some of these ROMs don't have all the programs your stock ROM came with. For example, if ROM you flash to doesn't have MSN, which you need, then you'll have to install MSN cab separately, after the ROM flash. Any ROM you flash to is likely to have some issues & no Trinitys have been seen flying or making crop circles after the WM6 upgrade...so be careful with your expectations.
If you aren't sure how to upgrade with these ROMs, wait a litle longer (1-2 months), as HTC will eventually have an upgrade for WM6. The beauty of ROMs on this forum is that they contain many improvements, besides the OS upgrade aspect.

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Help for Newbie

Hi,
Just wanted to get BT working well on my PDA2k.
Did the Radio upgrade as told in wiki to 1.10 - as I saw a few comments saying 1.12 was unstable.
WEnt through fine, except now I cannot get a phone signal at all and the phone call buttons don't work.
What is the best thing to do? Should I just do the whole upgrade to 1.40. I read that the phone was locking up on this and was not confident to do the fix.
Appreciate your help.
(Going back to 1.22 for now as I have now wasted 4 hours precious work tome just trying to get the device to work as it originally should!)
Russel
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
MDAIIIUser said:
W know have 3 threads on the 1.40.
All seem to post errors with that rom in some minor way.
Myself I went for the 1.40 converted to type I and have not added the ext rom (yet). also have 1.12, in all I am happy with it as I have not come across any of those issues (as i dont use the camera, ect). So far Imate makes the best rom IMHO.
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MDAIIIUser, which 1.40 rom are you using? The one from the original thread "New Rom 1.40 on FTP" or the one you converted from this thread "BA_WWE_14000_147_11200_Ship" ? There should not be any differences between roms i think, but i find there are some subtle variances. Is it possible that conversion can corrupt the final rom produced? Your converted rom seems to work better for me but still need a soft reset now and then
converted to type I qtek 147.
It could be possible that conversion is corupt but dont think so, check wiki avlible roms and see the passed with new tool. all of these roms have been confirmed to work.
Sure I have issues with this rom but they are carry over from 1.02, 1.22, 1.31 and now 1.40. Most based on alarm issues as well as remove from power were i get locked due to i-pass (i think)
I will do a hex file compare on the 1.40 ce from qtec and see if i see anything.
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II
Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.
Which download was it that you used - the one from wiki?
I tried to download 1.40 - but got a country error - any suggestions?
Also what is the difference between type I and type II?
Cheers
Russel
Type I and Type II cont'd
Thanks for the reply - sorry a bit slow here.
I get there is a difference between types according to the origin - however how is it relevant? If I am coming from 1.22.162 (Type I) ext ROM should I make sure I only install a ROM upgrade that is type I? :?
Cheers
Russel
Clear text.
Type I roms work with tool xda3nbtool.exe
Tpye II roms give you a header error when used with tool.
Thus you can only upgrade type I roms unless you know the country code fix that seems to work.
Wiki is my prefered choice for downloading roms, in the case of the 1.40 I used the thread to download the converted 1.40 to type I rom which was not hard for me as I posted it. (its the qtek 1.40.147)
Thanks
Thanks MDAIIIuser. It is clear now.
Regards
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i saw your reply in another thread after comparing the 1.40 roms. How about the first 1.40 rom posted in this file BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar on the ftp? This should be the same as all the others right? I seem to have had fewer problems with this rom than the converted to type I qtek 147. My main problem seems to be turning the phone on after being in flight mode, losing network signal and GPRS sometimes not connecting. All need a soft reset to resolve. The from BA_1.40_radio_1.20_untested_extrom.rar gave me problems when trying to turn on wifi. Im using radio 1.12.
efjay
It takes me just over an hour to download roms of this site which I know is my problem.
I dont like working with baked roms as I can't post them to wiki as they are not complete,
I can't cook the Ext Rom as it to is not original,
I can't post the ext rom in wiki
and thus the hour download is a waste of my time.
I seem to spend enough time updating wiki and finding new roms on the web so sorry the answer is no I wont check that rom untill I see a original ship.exe.
You could though
MDAIIIUser, sure i would be happy to. Im not too sure what tool i should use to do a comparison. Im reading wiki, if its there ill find it. thanks
My choice would be ultracompare
http://www.ultraedit.com/
you will notice that the header is different this is due to the file timestamp and date.
Windows media player v10
MDAIIIuser or anyone else.
I upgraded my CE ROM to 1.40, however I cannot get windows media player to pick up any of my music files as valid .wma files. It also seems to be endlessly looking for a skin.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Russel
read something about that in one of the 3 threads on the 1.40 (well I think I did)
How to fix
DId a search for WMP problems - couldn't find anything useful at a quick glance. Any ideas how to resolve it?
Cheers
Russel
MDAIIIUser, i downloaded ultracompare and can see there are differences with all the 1.40 roms but the output doesnt make sense to me. I guess ill try all the roms and if there is a difference it should show up. thanks for your help

I'm really confused about what to upgrade to. Need help.

I have a PDA2K I bought from Expansys a couple months ago and I use it in the US with TMobile. I upgraded the BT to .0035 and last night upgraded the Radio to 1.10. I'd like to upgrade the ROM from 1.22.126 to 1.?. I've read every upgrade post in here and that is where I think I went wrong. I'm really confused on what I need to upgrade to now. Too much information.
Given the above information, can someone tell me what version is best for me? I looked on the FTP site and there was too many choices for this little newbie.
Thanks,
Tom
The highest is 1.40 with radio 1.12, there are 4 threads on the 1.40 and it seems a lot of people are going back to the 1.3x manich cooked or 1.31 arabic.
Its a free world, do what you feel is best.
Since I've seen your name all over the place, accompanied by very authoritative posts, can you "recommend" which one I should use? I'd like to go with the 1.4, but I'm not sure what file(s) exactly I need. I thought I did, but as I started reading more and more threads I got more confused. It seems like there are a couple different 1.4s out there. I already upgraded my BT and Radio, but I'm not sure if I need the ROM and/or the Extended ROM. I've looked at the various files on the FTP site and I get confused....my wife says it happens often with me.
While I've seen HOW to do it, I'm not sure WHICH one I need. Might you be kind enough to point out what I need?
Thanks,
Tom
Ce rom
On wiki download the qtec 1.40 type I CE Rom only file (avalible roms)
on wiki in the radio upgrade ->download the type I upgrade files
on wiki in getting started download the ->xda3nbtool.exe as welll as -> fix bat.
Put them all in the same dir, Fix and then flash the rom as per wiki.
EXt Rom
Now you need the ext rom 1.40.147 in the kitchen availble roms
on wiki download -> unlock tool in kitchen tools
Unlock, flush old, add new, add your cust cabs, lock Hard reset.
BT 1.39 is part of 1.40 rom so DONT cook those files in your ext rom.

How to GET NEW ROM

i have mfrazzz rom and love but wanted to try something different because it runs slow and the new one i wanted its said that i should flash back to a offical rom and i cant find WM5 since that is what it means right? please some one tell me if i have to do this
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i have mfrazzz rom and love but wanted to try something different because it runs slow and the new one i wanted its said that i should flash back to a offical rom and i cant find WM5 since that is what it means right? please some one tell me if i have to do this
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No you don't!
My advise is to be careful with the G3/G4 chips (but you should know that) and with the different IPL/SPL versions and latest OS (WM6) to avoid 1.xx bootloaders and OS 2.xx or 10.xx
One thing i do recommend after an OS flash is to make a hard-reset to clear the user area and avoid old registry settings and old shortcuts to interfere with the new system.
cheers
flashing to an official rom is not required, however lotsa people recommend it, since it will put you back in a stable state...as though you were flashing the first time...
also...there were rumors that a corrupted extended rom in some custom roms could've caused a battery drain issue, so reflashing with an official rom would hope to rectify that.
For G4, flashing to official ROM (or Wizard Love) is required, as it is highly possible that shelltool fails when flashing from WM6.

Scared to post but I am stuck must take your wrath

Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?

Should I get a TyTn?

Morning all
I have been offered a swap for my iPhone for a brand new boxed Orange TyTn II and Im just wondering if its worth doing?
I have had previous windows mobile phones and do like the phones so I am considering the trade, I am currently on o2.
The thing is i have read all the posts about unlocking and flashing roms etc and im a little on edge about doing it myself as im sure i will break it lol
I would basically need to sim unlock the phone and remove all the orange software as I think it looks naff!
How much work is envolved in doing what i need and how long would it take?
Sorry if im repeating a post, im not the best at forums and get lost with all this info you guys have!
Cheers
Sy
Absolutely YES!!!
There is no contest. The TyTN II wins hands down!!!
Leave well enough alone. Perhaps get a sim unlocker. Just do a search and you should find something. But don't play around with flashing roms etc. You may regret it.
Use the HTC original apps which you will find on a sticky at the beginning of this forum.
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
I'm wondering if i should get a TyTn 2 now or wait for a Xperia.
Checked out the TyTn at a store a couple of days ago and i loved it, the only thing i didnt like was that it doesnt have a radio. Then i read around in this forum and came across the driver problems and the touchscreen bug and due to them i'm more inclined to wait for Xperia, but then i checked out Xperia's design and i didnt like the way the keyboard slides to, makes you operate the joystick with the right hand instead of the left and that's kind of uncomfortable.
seriously, who uses radio? I stream my Sirius satalite radio..
Sirius Pwnz AM/FM
..........
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You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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Yes you MUST CID unlock as well (unless it has already been done, which is doubtful if it is on Orange).
My advice...Before even getting the TYTN II, read the sticky's and Wikis in the upgrading ROM section at least 3 times over to ensure you have an idea of what you are going to need to do before even doing anything. when you think you understand it, read them again.
Then go ahead and flash any ROM you fancy and enjoy the benfits of the TYTN II voer the Iphone.
HardSPL is the replacement bootloader that allows you to install an non original ROM.
Im on T mobile and i hav heard that the ROM is not heavily branded. im just worried about bricking it. i already have the MDA viara 3.
reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 doing hardspl, does that automaticly unlock the CID or is there another tool to do that? if so do CID unlock it first and then hardspl?
You will NEED to CID unlock AND HardSPL...Do not consider doing anything untill you are 100% certain of the steps you are performing and why, otherwise you will have a rather expensive paperweight.
EVERYTHING you need to know and more about Rom flashing is contained here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Seriously, ensure you read every link and sub link related to ROM flashing. Even make sure you read the "inspirational reading" bit, that will give you the confidence to try it.
As long as you read you will be fine.
When I was new here I spent 4 days solid reading reading and reading before biting the bullet and flashing my first ROM. At
Thanks for the advice. one small question. if i was to follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790046&postcount=3 word for word i should be succesful?
there is one question i am still confused about and thats this hardspl/cid unlock. according to the Thread i linked, all i got to do is follow the guide from HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device (4 free) and bam im ready to Flash the ROM?
also what are the major benefits of flashing to a custom ROM?
does the procedure from that last link above hardspl AND CID at the same time?
hi i managed to hardspl my device succesfuly. so im ready to install a new cooked ROM? what are the best ROMS out there that i can try. i have seen dutty's ROM that many have used and was wondering if thats the best one
Does the DUTTY rom improve the camera and video playback?

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