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After Kaiser ROM on a Tilt, Does it still a Tilt?

What I mean by this is... After loading the Kaiser ROM on my Tilt, does it mean my phone became a Kaiser? (without the front cam) Is the hardware on both identical with the exception of the fron camera?

It's just a name. The manufacturer gave the name "Kaiser," and each cell phone company gave it their own name. There are different versions of the Kaiser. From what I understand, one model has both cameras, one model has just the rear, and one model has no camera at all. They're all named Kaiser, just given different model names like Kaiser 160, 130, and 100.

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Vodafone vs Orange tytn 2

Hi.
I am looking at purchasing my first HTC phone. My first thought is who to go with. As I am looking through the forums people generally don't seem to happy with what orange have done with the tytn 2. However vodafone customers seem quite happy with the v1615, apparently vodafone have not messed with the phone too much and it still remains close to the HTC release.
Do either vodafone or orange change the main screen with the options for weather etc.
If anyone has any further experience with this, It would be great to hear from you.
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I have the V1615, which is only lightly branded. The HTC Home plugin (with the weather etc) is disabled when you first get the phone, but can be easily re-enabled in the Today screen settings. Similarly you can swap the vodafone message and calendar icons for proper WM6 icons in the same settings page. It comes with a nasty Vodafone theme installed, but again you can swap that for something more standard.
The only other customisations I found were the dialling screen, and comms manager, which have cosmetic changes to fit with the Vodafone theme but are functionally identical to the HTC versions. It's also missing a couple of apps - namely Windows Live, Messenger, and Worldcard Mobile.
It's perfectly livable with, certainly compared to what I've seen of the Orange version... having said that, I did debrand mine in the end and switch to the stock HTC rom.
PS - from what I've read here and elsewhere the V1615 is actually sim unlocked, so open to any network, but I've not actually tried any other sim in mine.

The orange customisation is appalling... I flashed the phone with the shipped HTC generic ROM as soon as I got it home. Keep in mind that to do this you have to sim unlock the phone (currently no free solution, £20 or more depending on where you do it)
Also, the orange do not provide the TomTom taster than comes in the generic package.
HOWEVER... I have not seen the Voda TYTN II, but I say with certainty that the Orange TYTN (Hermes) looked much better than the Voda TYTN (Hermes).
Can anyone comment on the differences between how the Kaiser handsets differ visually?
EDIT: I just checked, the two variants look almost exactly the same

Just to jump in here too, I'm looking at getting the TyTN II on either Vodafone or T-Mobile, but can't decide which one to get

Just to add, the Voda V1615 did come with the TomTom taster on disk, along with Sprite backup etc - the same CD package as the HTC, afaik.
I flashed the phone with the shipped HTC generic ROM as soon as I got it home. Keep in mind that to do this you have to sim unlock the phone (currently no free solution, £20 or more depending on where you do it)
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If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it) then the Vodafone is definitely SIM unlocked. All I had to do with mine is use the free CID utility available here (which just "unlocks" the firmware itself) and then run the usual Rom Update Utility to flash it with the generic HTC version. Total cost = £0.00.

If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it)
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There are loads of threads with noobs who've flashed and then said AAAAHHHHHHHH WTF ha ha ha ha
I'm not exactly sure why the sim lock kicks in... legally I don't think it should because I have an orange SIM in an orange phone - I've just flashed it with a non-orange OS build.
I read in another thread that maybe the handset detects that you've got a radio stack of a non-orange build and prompts for SIM unlock code...

My UK v1615 is also unlocked. How cool is that?
I rather like the phone so far and visualy it's a very pretty phone with the brushed metal around the screen and the black glossy back. Very nice indeed.
Havent tried to debrand the ROM yet as i've found no reason to.

I have the V1615 from Vodafone and can confirm it is not sim locked none of the phonesi have ever had form Vodafone including my old TYTn were ever locked.
V1615 seems quite normal and has a very low amount of customisation, less than on most Vodafone phones.

Boinng said:
If this is true (and I've no reason to doubt it) then the Vodafone is definitely SIM unlocked. All I had to do with mine is use the free CID utility available here (which just "unlocks" the firmware itself) and then run the usual Rom Update Utility to flash it with the generic HTC version. Total cost = £0.00.
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What happens is, if you flash a new radio rom (that is not an orange rom) to an orange TYTN 2 then the phone complains about the sim card not being accepted.
The only current way around this is to pay £20+ (there is a member on here that will provide you with an unlock code) and unlock the phone.
Then you can carry on using the phone with none orange radio roms.
What people are currently doing (and sucessfully with out paying £20+ to unlock the phone) is flashing HardSPL and then flashing just the OS rom to their orange phones

Putting aside the Orange variants problem with simlock (which can be solved relatively cheaply) I would have said the argument is which carrier provides you the best deal, not just on the phone but the airtime package, network coverage etc.
At the end of the day, the device is the same and you can flash any of the ROMs found here and customise your shiny device any way you want
To be clear on the Orange simlock issue - this only occurs if you flash a different radio rom, flashing an OS only rom has no issues at all. Currently there is no need to use a different radio rom with the cooked rom's available here.

WM5 on S720?

Now Telus tells me the S720 can be flashed "down" to WM5 and it will then have MMS support.
So... any clues on how to do this? Or more to the point, where to obtain WM5 for it??

You dont have MMS on your device?!

Um, no... I have another thread on this topic already. The S720 is loaded with WM6, which doesn't have MMS support. Some providers apparently load Arcsoft MMS Composer to provide this capability; mine (Telus) has chosen not to.
From everything I've garnered so far, WM5 has the capability built-in, and a Telus tech has informed us that the S720 CAN be flashed to WM5 to get the MMS support.

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The S720 is loaded with WM6, which doesn't have MMS support.
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The S730 has MMS support. I'm not sure what the S720 is?

Well, the closest cousin to it I could find, going by the pictures with the forums. You don't appear to have a forum specific to this phone... I don't know what "cute" name, if any, it's been given.
http://telusmobility.com/bc/pcs/handset_htc_s720.shtml

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Yes it seems to be a HTC phone just for TELUS in Canada. Seems to be a variation of the S730. Uses the MSM7500 instead of the MSM7200
MMS is there on the S730 and wm6 so i dont really know why you havnt got it. Very strange

Since years, HTC is using Arcsoft MMS on their devices. the s720 is also HTC-Made.
Unfortunately microsoft still hasnt integrated an own MMS client :-(
But it's the first time since years that I've heard of a HTC-made phone without the Arcsoft MMS client...

Apparently Telus doesn't think anyone needs this feature anymore - their story was that NO PDA-style phones have this support because they can send pictures though email instead - no consideration for sending pictures to others who DON'T have email capabilities. "Oh, but everyone will have PDA phones within a year" according to one rep... doesn't help much RIGHT NOW, does it, ****er? He also informed us that NO PDA phones have EVER been able to send MMS messages... really? My Treo 650 from your competitor does it just fine.
Anyway, this is some very interesting information that I can use with Telus... we're pretty miffed about all this - well, my wife is, because before they sold us on our new contracts and these new phones, she was happily sending picture messages to her cousin from her RAZR (which our store agent was amazed to hear, she didn't think that was possible either), and now she's ready to ditch the whole thing to go back to her RAZR. I mean, she loves the phone, the little keyboard, the surfing and email and IM and everything, but...
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Maybe get the mms software from the Verizon version of the phone? Or install WM6.1?

The S720 is for Canada and Qwest communications in the central / northern US, the Verizon version is the SMT 5800 and has a different outer casing, dont think the hardware changed other than to work on their set up.
I wouldnt want to downgrade os's, dont know if it would happen but some hardware might not function properly without the drivers from the latest version that was installed on the phone. Is there a third party app that will allow you to do what you need? Weird that they would disable that feature, wouldnt it be built into windows and disabled somehow?

Problem With SkyMobile TV

Hi guys…
Bit of a desperate first post!
Picked up a HTC Diamond Touch last week locked to Orange and unlocked it using Olinex’s solution on here…
Now, I’ve put my T-Mobile SIM and all is working fine… calls, mobile internet… everything…
Well, everything but SkyMobile TV…
The HTC Touch Diamond on Orange supports SkyMobile TV… and the equivalent phone, MDA Compact IV on T-Mobile also supports the SkyMobile TV app… put the T-Mobile SIM into the HTC Touch Diamond however and it’s a different issue! The website says it's not a compatible handset... go figure
From searching there’s about a post and a half from a year or so back now that just kind of died a death… the guy who responded mentioned changing the user agent in the Opera browser, but didn’t quite know what the correct user agent was, lol…
Now, I’m reluctant to flash (I’ll have to, right?) and install the T-Mobile ROM given the bloatware it comes with… but I’m really kind of eager to get Sky Mobile TV on the phone and make those commutes into work a little more bearable!
All help, greatly appreciated!

Problem solved for all those that care, lol...
Went into the opera:config screen and changed the browser user agent to a T-Mobile compatible one... used MDA Compact IV since that's the T-Mobile HTC Diamond equivalent
"Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; MDA_compact_IV/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1; U; en)"

WM6.1 update from HTC site to 3UK Kaiser

I have a HTC Kaiser on 3UK. (marked HTC on the front, but shows the 3 splash screen on boot).
I have been to the HTC website, and tried to download the WM6.1 upgrade for the TTYN II. I have entered the serial number of the handset, and get a message, that the upgrade is not compatable with my handset.
Any one else tried this, and got it to work with a 3Uk handset?

Try with this address: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=13&cat=2&dl_id=475

jase_31 said:
I have a HTC Kaiser on 3UK. (marked HTC on the front, but shows the 3 splash screen on boot).
I have been to the HTC website, and tried to download the WM6.1 upgrade for the TTYN II. I have entered the serial number of the handset, and get a message, that the upgrade is not compatable with my handset.
Any one else tried this, and got it to work with a 3Uk handset?
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Almost all rom upgrades are carrier specific. The carriers pay a license fee to MS and Ms allows HTC to write them an upgrade for their phones.
Unless you Hardspl your phone and carrier unlock it from 3UK you can only use a 3UK upgrade on it. No other rom upgrades will work.