My Kaiser arrived yesterday. Prior to this I have used a TyTn. The keyboard on the TyTn slides left to right. When you hold it you push with your thumb, which for a right handed person is on the inside (left side) of the handset.
My new Kaiser slides right to left. Have I been sold a left-handed version? Can I buy a right-handed version?
Any one know?
the wing also opens the same way. if you look at the main page of the forum you can see all pics of the phones and how they open. there are supposed to be 3 versions on the p4550, but the all open the same way, with the only difference between the types being the amount of installed cameras....
timfoster said:
My Kaiser arrived yesterday. Prior to this I have used a TyTn. The keyboard on the TyTn slides left to right. When you hold it you push with your thumb, which for a right handed person is on the inside (left side) of the handset.
My new Kaiser slides right to left. Have I been sold a left-handed version? Can I buy a right-handed version?
Any one know?
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By my standards the Tilt is a right handed phone when compaired to my 8125 which was a simple thumb slide for my left hand... With the Tilt however, I must first turn CW and then slide it.
timfoster said:
My Kaiser arrived yesterday. Prior to this I have used a TyTn. The keyboard on the TyTn slides left to right. When you hold it you push with your thumb, which for a right handed person is on the inside (left side) of the handset.
My new Kaiser slides right to left. Have I been sold a left-handed version? Can I buy a right-handed version?
Any one know?
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I thought of the same thing. Im a lefty and the 8525 is perfect for me, then when i got the Tilt, its a challenge for me to open the phone. But it's really no biggie.
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No need to repeat the plethora of good things about the kaiser.......BUT
Here is some issues that -in my opinion- need to be fixed (feel free to add your own)
1. when you select "when device is off, lock all the buttons except power button" it doesnt disable the keyboard slide from activating/turning on the device (usually in the most inappropriate moments) like when in your pocket
2. this issue is universal among all PPC devices, and its very annoying ( oddly enough no one else seems to think so). THE TOUCH SCREEN SHOULD NOT BE ACTIVATED WHEN THE PHONE RINGS OR FROM ANY OTHER KIND OF NOTIFICATIONS!!!!!!!
Thats why we have hard buttons! Picture this scenario if you will.
When the phone rings the screen shows the caller (the touch screen is not activated) if you want to take the call/or respond to a notification you can use the "phone/green" button to take the call (touch screen is still deactivated), if you need to used the touch screen you can then press the power button to activate it......this way you are not using the touch screen with your ear or in your pocket if a call or a notification goes unanswered
BTW there is a big issue that cant be solved.I'm only posting it in case HTC is reading this THIS PHONE WAS DESIGNED FOR LEFT HANDED PEOPLE!!!!!!
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why do you think that it "was designed for left handed people" ?
Hi, I just go mine yesterday but I can't really understand why do you think it was designed for left handed people ?
hanza said:
Hi, I just go mine yesterday but I can't really understand why do you think it was designed for left handed people ?
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Scroll wheel and OK button are on the left But I find it convenient because this configuration combines nicely with the right finger for seamless navigation on the device
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Scroll wheel and OK button are on the left But I find it convenient because this configuration combines nicely with the right finger for seamless navigation on the device
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Sorry, I'm slow. If the scroll wheel and OK buttons are on the left, and I hold the phone in my left hand (because I'm right handed and I want the stylus in my right hand) then I would use my left thumb to access the scroll wheel and OK buttons, which seems perfectly intuitive. I must be missing something.....
well nunmber 1 you might have a point it does not realy bother me tho as i always keep my ppc in a case not my pocket so have never had the keyboard open on me.
Number 2 is a feature not a promblem. personaly I love that it comes on and lights up when there is a incoming call. Esp when im in a nosiey room ect and i would not be able to hear the ringer anyways.
number 3 well I just think your way off base here. Im right handed and I always felt the old wizard/tytn where the ones that where backasswards. But then again this is coming from someone in his mid 20's who grew up with game controlers with the main movement keys on the left so it just feels right to have the kaiser setup that way also. And being able to use the stylus in my right hand while useing the main control in left feels correct.
magnamar said:
well nunmber 1 you might have a point it does not realy bother me tho as i always keep my ppc in a case not my pocket so have never had the keyboard open on me.
Number 2 is a feature not a promblem. personaly I love that it comes on and lights up when there is a incoming call. Esp when im in a nosiey room ect and i would not be able to hear the ringer anyways.
number 3 well I just think your way off base here. Im right handed and I always felt the old wizard/tytn where the ones that where backasswards. But then again this is coming from someone in his mid 20's who grew up with game controlers with the main movement keys on the left so it just feels right to have the kaiser setup that way also. And being able to use the stylus in my right hand while useing the main control in left feels correct.
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Ok, the keyboard slide is causing a problem for me (it turned on twice in my pocket as I got on my motorcycle) Ive only had it for two days
(i guess baggy pants could solve that...but its still a flaw)
On number 2, I think you misunderstood! I'm not suggesting that the SCREEN shouldn't turn on, but I insist that the TOUCHSCREEN (the touch function) is useless and annoying if it comes on automatically when the phone rings or when a text message comes in.
In the past I tried to use "TPEnable" and "TPDisable" in order to shut off the touch function, and when I had the HTC Wizard I would just reach on top and hit the power button after I answered the call (so that the screen wasnt on while I had the phone in my ear) but now, with the relocation of the power button on the Kaiser its harder to do
As far as the "lefthanded" issue is concerned, the idea is for WM6 to be used with ONE HAND, so the "holding the stylus with my right hand argument" that many people have suggested would not be popular with the WM6 folks, since a big part of advertising their new OS was its "ONE-HANDED OPERATION"
I agree though, that if we look beyond the "one handed use", the interface is intuitive and easier to use with two hands
Well....no one can do anything about the hardware at this point but I hope someone can shed some light on the touchscreen issue
Thanks
warwickwebb said:
Sorry, I'm slow. If the scroll wheel and OK buttons are on the left, and I hold the phone in my left hand (because I'm right handed and I want the stylus in my right hand) then I would use my left thumb to access the scroll wheel and OK buttons, which seems perfectly intuitive. I must be missing something.....
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nahhh !!
Picture the keyboard slided out already ... that's what the OP meant by -->> LEFT HANDED
I think it's only 1/2 crippled ... because at the HTC home today, you have the option to rotate the screen at 90 >> L << degree angle ... though making it more then "right-hand-do-able" in landscape games and the buttons are at my right thumb --->>>( keyboard CLOSED by the way )
it's only when the keyboard are slided out that it becomes "left handed" ...works for some due to right hand stylus
MY GRIPE is with the "VIDEO CONFERENCING" camera !!
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1506877&postcount=1
gotta be a fix for it "SOON" down the road ??
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spiro said:
..I'm only posting it in case HTC is reading this THIS PHONE WAS DESIGNED FOR LEFT HANDED PEOPLE!!!!!!
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I'm throwing in the FRONT camera issue !! haha ha
Been very happy with the Kaiser so far, including on the GPS front ;-) but I'm getting slightly annoyed by two hardware nits :
1. wobbly : in portrait mode when I tap on the screen the right side tends to "hit" the keyboard part underneath and looking closely it's easy to understand why, there is a tiny gap between the two parts, likely for the slide/tilt mechanism
2. sloped : when I pull out the keyboard, the right side of the screen goes out more than the left side so it is slightly sloped. It improved a bit when folding the screen. Again I think this is a constraint of the slide/tilt mechanism
I'm thinking it's a general quirk because I had to change my first model (stuck key) and it had the same problems.
Anyone else noticed that ?
in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
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in portrait mode my kaiser seems to be spaced the same all the way around and doesnt push on the keyboard when tapping the screen. I do notice what you mean by the keyboard appearing to be farther out on the right side but after taking a closer look it just seems that way because of the face plate not being uniform all the way down (part where it flares out on the left side). Mine is exactly pushed out on both sides.
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Mine's the same as this. It sounds like yours may not be quite right and I'd consider getting a replacement. Of course, if you can live with it, and the functionality is all there then it's entirely up to you.
For the sloping I've had two and they were both the same, so it's probably a design constraint, no biggie.
For the "wobbling", it comes and goes, I can only really feel the "knocks" when I hold the left side tight and tap on the scroll bar on the right, again, no biggie.
solution
iv had the same problem of one end sticking out,
iv gone around it by inserting some tiny smugged paper into the sliding slots at the back, resolves the issue quite well.
I don't seem to have either problem (TyTN II version).
ok my kaiser, tilt, 8925, whatever, whatever, has a loose slider. if i press on the screen you can feel the upper part of the phone move. Their is a noticable gap between the keyboard and the upper part of the phone. My brother has a titl and i compared it. Is their any way to tighten or fix the problem
bump.
I'm comfortable with taking my phone apart and putting it back together.
s0nnyyyy said:
ok my kaiser, tilt, 8925, whatever, whatever, has a loose slider. if i press on the screen you can feel the upper part of the phone move. Their is a noticable gap between the keyboard and the upper part of the phone. My brother has a titl and i compared it. Is their any way to tighten or fix the problem
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Does the screen feel loose when the device is closed? Or do you mean its loose when its open? Mine was loose when it was closed and almost made a creaking sound when I applied pressure to the bottom right corner, I removed the screws, but was unsure how to disassemble the unit (at the time), so I gave it a good dusting, replaced the screws and It's fine now. What my little dusting solved is still a mystery to me, but it worked.
I noticed that on my TILT, I can "wiggle" my outer keypad quite a bit with my finger - IE - It's not tight. I can move it up/down, side to side - is this normal or should it have no play at all?
yeah thats pretty common, nothing to worry about it. I picked up the KAISER about a year ago, and was shocked that it was wobbly too . You will eventually stop noticing it.
Lol, I just answered it you know where
I recently purchased for the princely sum of £5 a stylus - aimed at the iPhone made by Exspect..
Now they are a few styli out there that just don't work but this one is weird..
The end is like rubber and all spongy and it works just fine when you press (though I wish the end was more pointed) but it won't scroll via the rubber end cap but, and this is weird, to get it to scroll from left to right, you place the stylus on the screen vertically (holding the clip) and move it from left to right and hey-presto it scrolls a screen at a time and if you turn it around it scrolls from top to bottom.. all this and it is not physically touching or scratching the screen..
So how have they done that as there are no magnets (that I can see) in the stylus, no user or moveable parts.. but it works.. strange but I am curious as to if the official HTC stylus that is currently being advertised at £17 is the same or any better..