If I am correct, tmobile US will release their version of the Kaiser in the future. Does anyone know if HTC will offer a fully functional (for lack of better terms) unlocked kaiser. By fully functional, I mean with all the hardware features like dual cameras along with the ability to handle the 1700 band for tmobiles 3g network.
i have an unlocked kaiser on tmobile and it works perfect. The hope is that t-mobile will purchase another frequency that works with the kaiser!!!
that's all fine and good but with the currently available kaiser (and also the TILT once released and unlocked) you will not be able to take full advantage of tmobiles 3G network once launched. I'd like to keep tmobile as my US provider while still having the front cam for video calls.
I would also like to change from ATT to T-mobile with my current unlocked Kaiser. I am hoping that the current kaiser is just a, "Rom change" away from picking up the 1700 Mghtz 3G frequency when T-Mobile brings it out.
Anybody here have any idea, if the Kaiser is hardware capable of picking up 1700? You would assume, that it would be easier and cheaper to put the hardware in there and just disable it with software.
JB
I wouldn't worry to much. By the time tmob gets 3g maybe late 08 in some areas maybe 09 there will be another latest greatest phone
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dwella said:
I wouldn't worry to much. By the time tmob gets 3g maybe late 08 in some areas maybe 09 there will be another latest greatest phone
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Good point...
I figure in on the 'newer phone' liklihood as well. I had a Wizard and thought the remaining feature differences (GPS, Tilt display, faster processer, double RAM, double storage, SDHC support, etc) were more than enough to justify an upgrade. I am using in on T-Mobile with the great data plan. I have access to WiFi when I need speed (Sling, Orb, etc), so EDGE is good enough for uses at other times (casual web browsing and push email).
I'm sure they will release their version of the Kaiser before 2008 if they want to reap the rewards...and, I don't think they will release it without the 3g network running as their version is supposed to support the 1700 band. Of course, their version will be lacking other features of the hardware like the front facing camera. In turn, my original question about wanted a fully featured unlocked Kaiser remains.
Additionally, to the person hoping thecurrent kaiser may have 1700 support through a rom update, from what I hear the answer is no. I am told it is a hardware issue and the hardware on the current kaiser model is not equipped to handle it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333595
You might check this thread out. Dont know if it will work here.
I don't believe HTC will make a Kaiser for tmo here but this variation could come here. If you look at the phones released to ttmo and att most of the light and young peoples phones are released to tmo and the more work oriented are released to att (excluding the Iphone which should have went to tmo but was att shot to bring in some young blood. just my ho for what its worth
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Thanks dwella,
However, i feel pretty confident that T-mobile US will release the Kaiser for many reasons. Mainly because they have already cleared their version of the device through the FCC and there is a Tmobile manual for the device that is clearly for the US market (as it mentions specifics exclusive to the T-mo US market such as My Favs, etc. They don't exist in UK). The FCC also list Tmobiles variant as having the 1700 band and as you may know, Tmobile US is setting up half of their 3g network on that band (upstream I believe). Since that band is not used in UK (or anywhere iirc) it's pretty certain that the documentation is for the US.
Then again, this is all speculation.
My problem however is that I want a fully featured unlocked Kaiser with all bands and all hardware options. I take residence in both US and abroad (Asia). Asia is no issue as the bands are common. Tmo US is my provider in the states though (and I have a really, really god data plan through them) and want 3g to work through them when in the US. Since the fact that they will use the 1700 band is my main hang up (otherwise, I probably would have had the Kaiser on day 1 )
The wait and uncertainty is killing me...I even emailed HTC some time ago about this but they have not responded.
hey guys, i'm also picking up the tilt and gonna use it on tmobile. just wondering, is anybody using the 5.99 proxy internet deal on the tilt? just making sure its gonna work, thanks
omar
yes it works fine
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yes it works fine
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Can you give me instructions on the 5.99 workaround, I can't seem to get it to work with any of the settings here, nor the auto setting downloader.
start>settings>connections>connections
under proxy settings check: this network connects to the internet
check this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet
proxy server should be :216.155.165.50
click advanced
http: 216.155.165.50:8080
wap: 216.155.165.50:9201
secure wap: 216.155.165.50:9201
socks (blank)
under modem, your access point name should be : wap.voicestream.com
name and password blank.
under advanced check use server assigned ip address
use software compression
use ip header compression.
Works great!!
The only thing i found I cant get to work is the MMS setting, though i did find the post for it, but did not work for me.. so if anyone has setting that work for Tmobile w/tilt, much appreciated..
mofoliar said:
start>settings>connections>connections
under proxy settings check: this network connects to the internet
check this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet
proxy server should be :216.155.165.50
click advanced
http: 216.155.165.50:8080
wap: 216.155.165.50:9201
secure wap: 216.155.165.50:9201
socks (blank)
under modem, your access point name should be : wap.voicestream.com
name and password blank.
under advanced check use server assigned ip address
use software compression
use ip header compression.
Works great!!
The only thing i found I cant get to work is the MMS setting, though i did find the post for it, but did not work for me.. so if anyone has setting that work for Tmobile w/tilt, much appreciated..
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Thanks for you help, my MMS setting works. Here's are my setting:
Messaging -> MMS -> Tools -> Options:
Servers -> MMS Configurations:
Server Name: T-Mobile MMS
Gateway: 216.155.165.50
Port: 8080
Server Address: http://216.155.165.174.84/servlets/mms
Connect via: T-Mobile MMS
By the way, these are the default settings the "Auto Connection" tool gave me.
i am pretty sure i tried that myself,but it wont hurt to try again.. i did get it to work 1 time that was it.. now all it does is sit in either sent or draft folder w/ and red x next to the envelope.. thanks for the info!!
I just got the Kaiser for Christmas, and I got it working with the HTC rom on T-Mobiles network. My question is since my Kaiser was purchased on eBay and was for the Singapore/Vietnam market is there a US rom I can load that will better recognized T-Mobiles network. I have it working for normal phone calls and I am using BlackBerry Connect on it but every time I connect to the internet to use the browser it disconnects the BlackBerry Connect service. I would like both internet and BlackBerry to use the same connections. Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks in advances
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Any one else here using the HTC Diamond on Rogers network here in Canada?
I just purchased my Diamond a few days ago to replace my HTC 3600P. My 3600P connected to Rogers 3G network perfectly fine and I was able to get broadband speeds.
Now, with the Diamond I can only get GPRS (G icon on the phone) and Edge (E icon on the phone).
I am not sure if this had anything to do with it, but unlike the 3600P, when first setting up the Diamond it ask if I wanted the phone to auto detect the network and auto configure the phone. I selected yes.
In the phone settings under network tab, the network selection is set to Automatic. Under the Band tab, both select your network type and select your GSM/UMTS band is set to auto.
is my phone setup correctly, or is it that the Diamond doesn't work with Rogers 3G network only GPRS/EDGE? If this is the case now, could a ROM update fix this?
I really need broadband speeds on my work and am seriously considering returning the phone, as I specially asked the store I purchased it from here in Toronto if it would work on Rogers 3G network like my HTC 3600P and they said yes.
Current Diamond models (EU and Asia) do NOT support North American 3G bands. There was some talk from Rogers that the 900MHz band would be support but for now GPRS is as fast as you will get with your Diamond.
Just to add confirmation to what NikoL has said.
No 3G with the Diamond on Rogers.
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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To be honest buddy, it all depends on Rogers if they support that band that your missing. If they arent going to enable it on their network then you will never get 3G on the Diamond that you have now. So its a 50-50 chance they may or may not...probably better off asking them if you ring them. Im sure they will tell you if they have any intentions of enabling that band on their network.
Now if it was me, id return it and wait for the North American version which should be released next month hopefully. But this is me personally...im in the UK and i couldnt live without 3G myself...blazing fast on my nokia n95 8gb which i sold and at the moment im having to make do with GPRS because my nokia 8600 luna only does GPRS.
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
citats said:
What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
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I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
SkankAgent said:
I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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You are correct about the ROM update. I called HTC Canada and confirmed this with their support department. I guess, I'll be putting my Diamond up for sale on ebay (as my local dealer refuses to take back the phone - last time I'll ever purchase from them, as I specifically asked about it working on Rogerrs prior to purchase) and wait for the North Amercian verision.. or see how the new 3G iphone stands up when it is released here on July 11th.
I know you can use the G1 with AT&T service, but I see conflicting information on the interwebs claiming what is/isn't working when used with AT&T.
1. Is the market working?
2. Is the new "Maps" GPS working?
3. Any drawbacks you can think of, except for no 3G access?
Thank you!
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I know you can use the G1 with AT&T service, but I see conflicting information on the interwebs claiming what is/isn't working when used with AT&T.
1. Is the market working?
2. Is the new "Maps" GPS working?
3. Any drawbacks you can think of, except for no 3G access?
Thank you!
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Market works fine.
Not familiar with the new "Maps" GPS...so I can't verify
No drawbacks aside from 3g. I don't have AT&T 3g in my areas anyhow, so makes no difference to me.
If you get te rogers dream instead of the tmobile g1 you will get 3g service. Assuming you are going to root the phone and install a custom rom you will have no issues with the market. Also assuming you are staying in the US and you root the dream you can get the new google navigation.
I'm not sure how smooth it would be on the dream but I'm sure it works fine.
The phone shouldn't care which network you're on. I have a G1 running on AT&T and it works fine. The only special thing I had to do (besides SIM and CID unlock the phone) was program the APN settings manually during the initial Google Account setup:
Name: AT&T
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: (not set)
Port: (not set)
Username: [email protected]
Password: (not set)
Server: (not set)
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
APN type: (not set)
works for me! ^_^ However, YMMV..
Regards,
Weasel5i2
PS: Check out this neato boot splash I flashed on my phone (see here for how):
Besides the draw back of paying more money, and having that flakey service....
Nope you should be find
spazoid said:
Besides the draw back of paying more money, and having that flakey service....
Nope you should be find
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I heard somewhere that "there's a map for that".
Originally Posted by spazoid View Post
Besides the draw back of paying more money, and having that flakey service....
Nope you should be find
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I heard somewhere that "there's a map for that".
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LOL a map or a lawsuit???
Everything works very very well
one draw back is the 3G, there isn't any.
I have my G1 with AT&T and to be honest if I had a data plan, I probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between T-Mobile and AT&T
GG
Yeah, it's not bad at all. EDGE connection is iffy at times, but with T-Mobile I only get GPRS at my house. Everything works just as you'd expect it to.
I had a T-Mobile G1 with T-mobile services until moved to a different location, where AT&T has a great coverage and T-Mobile has almost none. Unlocked G1, signed with AT&T. G1 works fine - the only application which has refused to work is an MSN messenger.
Edge coverage only, of course.
After that, I bought unlocked Rogers Dream on fleabay in order to get US AT&T 3G service on Android based phone.
It was preactivated with Google servers, but interface was in french and I decided to restore it to default for the sake of simplicity. It was a shock to discover, that the phone did not want to connect to Google Servers for activation (AT&T APN has been created and sim card with a data plan was inserted). Fortunately (contrary to T-Mobile G1) Rogers Dream has an option to "activate later", basically gives you full access to your phone without activating it first. That what I did - went to "activate later", turned on wi-fi and activated it.
Turned off wi-fi - voila - everything works - AT&T 3G, all market applications (not sure about paid ones - don't use them), tethering using Tetherbot, etc. A bit different dialer interface, but I like it. So far, I don't need to root it and/or install a custom ROM.
Hello all.
I just got this awesome phone from my in laws that live in USA, just got it unlocked to be used in Canada for Fido or Rogers network.
Almost everything work great on fido network except i cant connect to 3g internet with this phone. I called fido and the gave me the VPN address, username and password, the DNS information and the proxy information.
After all that this **** still dont work. I've been told the only way i can get the 3g internet to work is to find another user with the same phone or the same windows mobile version on the same network, and copy his connection setting.
Can someone please help with this i really dont want to pay for services anymore "3g internet" if i cant get ti to work.
Best Regards M... Aleksander
if the settings from the service provider doesnt work, your problem might be related to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596710
Thank for post that thread.
I have looked over this thread and i doesnt answer my question.
what i need to find out is the 3gprs setting from windows mobile 6.1 on fido or rogers network and make sure everything matches up with my setting.
do they have settings for windows mobile in general? same settings for every wm device as far as i know...
Majority of the setting should be the same except all th e proxy vpn and dns should come from the same carrier "fido"
Here are the settings I have...
Fido GPRS
Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point name: internet.fido.ca
User name: fido
Password: fido
Domain: (blank)
Take a look here as well.
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Please help me get all the setting that I need to ensure that my Galaxy S can access GPRS/3G and MMS. Sun Shop and their hotline do not have any idea on how to set up this phone (so far):
Here are the things I need:
Name
APN
Proxy
Port
Username
Password
Server
MMSC
MMS Proxy
MCC
MNC
Authentication Type
APN Type
Hope someone is kind enough to provide me the info I need to make this work! Thanks!
Hi Kabayan.. I suppose you too are from Philippines..
Not everyone here in xda-devs knows mobile companies from our country namely Globe, Smart & Sun Cellular.
have you tried texting ACTIVATE to 2300 and SETTINGS to 2300?
or.. check this page: http://www.suncellular.com.ph/ecs_configure.php
Samsung Galaxy is not listed, just try to get the settings from other phones like Sony Ericsson P990i. The instructions are not the same, but you can use it as reference.
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Hi Kababayan!
Unfortunately, I'm running out of options. I did all the settings I can find via the Sun website plus through the hotline to no avail.
Question: Is it possible that the GPRS is blocked to a certain carrier? I bought mine through Globe and just had it unlocked by myself via the app found in this site.
Is there anything I should place under "Server"? How about if I combine all the settings? APN Type can be placed as "Internet + MMS"...
hi.
i'm not in the Philippines anymore, but I've dealt with trying to get Sun to work on a non-Sun phone. I also have a Bell phone unlocked to a Rogers network here in Canada.
try these settings for Sun:
name: sun internet
apn: minternet
authentication type: none
apn type: internet
leave everything else blank/as is.
tell me if it works.
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Thanks for all the suggestions! Unfortunately, it still is not giving me a 3G connection (and icon on top of the screen). I can make calls and send SMS without any issues.
I tried the Sun Internet APN set up above.
I also see this message "Mobile Network State Disconnected"
Weird is that when I place my Globe simcard, it detects the 3G immediately. Is there a way for Globe to lock the 3Gsignal of this phone even if I already unlocked it?? Strange indeed..
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I have another setting that I tried to no avail. Maybe someone can send me a revised one since I might be keying things wrong:
Name: Sun WAP GPRS
APN: WAP
Proxy: 202.138.159.78
Port: 8080
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: Not Set
MMSC: Not Set
MMS Proxy: Not Set
MMS Port: Not Set
MCC: 15
MNC: 05
Authentication Type: PAP
APN Type: Internet
I'm not sure about this but last time I checked, Sun Cellular Call & Text SIMs does not have 3G, only GPRS.. Their 3G is only for their Wireless Broadband..
Tried that with my Sony Ericssion Xperia X1 + Postpaid Sim, I don't get any 3G signals only GPRS. When I tried to manually set the 3G signal using the manual network selection, I receive a "Not Registered" message. this was just last March 2010
Some questions:
1) Are you using a Pre-Paid or Post Paid call&text sim?
2) In case Pre-paid, may load ka ba? hehe
3) Have you tried your Sun Sim with other 3G phones, and got a 3G signal and can browse the internet?
Try a Smart SIM, I'm sure they have 3G.
Another theory is, maybe Globe did some settings with your SGS so that it can only be used for their network, since SGS is sold exclusively by Globe. Just like iPhones, if you bring iPhones from other countries, you won't be able to Globe's 3G, you'll have to ask them to configure the phone for you..
Thanks again for the response!
1. I am using a postpaid line. I also own a N97 and when my Sun sim is there, it does give me the 3G logo on the upper part of the screen.
2. Hahaha.. this really made me laugh like a madman for a few secs
3. Yeah I think Globe made some restriction that even unlocking the phone for other networks will block 3G. But something is still lingering in my mind:
If they did do some block, why didn't they block it entirely I can still call and text as usual... Hmmmm...
I guess I'll go get a globe postpaid line for this na lang.
Last Question for you:
I tried the phone with a prepaid sim and also enrolled with Globe's 5 day unlimited mobile internet promo.
I can access the internet using 3G but I cannot seem to access GMAIL and Android Market using the widget and also by manually keying in the URL in the web browser. Is there a restriction with Globe? If yes, I might ask them to give me a plan that can access those. My concern is: I pay for Pxxx for unlimited mobile internet then I then find out that "unlimited mobile internet" has some minor annoying restrictions. I'll ask Globe about this but needed some advice so that I can come "prepared" when I grill down the sales rep.
Not all sales rep are technically sazzy and might just be saying "Yes Sir" to all my queries without really knowing anything.
from my own experience, best way to go about this would be to go to a globe centre and have them clarify everything there. phone reps will usually just give you the run around or hang up on you.
tip: don't mention you used it for sun. tell them that ur travelling to a diff country and ask if there will be any problem using the phone with that country's provider.
but to be honest, i dont think globe would lock down the phone to that extent. if they did, it might be firmware based customization. are you on the original firware or have you flashed to a diff one?
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aridoasis said:
from my own experience, best way to go about this would be to go to a globe centre and have them clarify everything there. phone reps will usually just give you the run around or hang up on you.
tip: don't mention you used it for sun. tell them that ur travelling to a diff country and ask if there will be any problem using the phone with that country's provider.
but to be honest, i dont think globe would lock down the phone to that extent. if they did, it might be firmware based customization. are you on the original firware or have you flashed to a diff one?
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I just updated the firmware today. Updating it did take away all the apps I installed and my phone contacts.. I REALLY MUST REMEMBER to back up all data every now and then
I'll see if this new firmware works with SUN.... after I reinstall my apps and precious phone contacts.. i think I lost a few friends with the update
Note to self: start saving contacts to GMAIL for easy sync
Ayos! So it's a FW problem? Globe must have done something or the Open line thingy was incomplete!...
I really hate provider locks! It is better here in Singapore, there are no provider locks even on their exclusive phones like SGS!
ENJOY YOUR SGS!
nga pala, sikat din ba ang SGS sa Pinas? mahal kasi presyo ng Globe!
hope it's working fine for you bow with the new firmware.
lol at the backup... made that mistake too when i did my first flash. titanium works wonders for app backup.
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Thanks to both of you for yourk suggestions.
Yes, sikat dito SGS to the tech savy of course.
I paid 33k for the unit. Is that fair or a bit steep?
Gusto ko nga ng titanium backup pero you need to root the phone pa right? Takot akong magroot e
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Singtel sells the unit without a contract for S$900, Php29,700. But some shops sell it even lesser..
http://www.sgmobile.com.sg/details/view/341
http://www.whymobile.com/
Medyo mahal nga dito tapos locked pa sa globe.
Any ideas when froyo would be available via kies?
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According to Samsung it'll be by the end of September. Just cross our fingers and hope for good news.
bell mobility sells it (16gig version) for $499 CAD, plus the 12% tax, w/c is around 24k. pretty good price considering we can unlock it ourselves.
yeah, looking forward to froyo for this month. lots of news circulating that it may be on the 23rd, but i'd rather keep an open mind.
I'm thinking of rooting my phone. Any advantages or disadvantages doing that?
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head over to the dev section to get more info.
basically, rooting will allow you to install apps that need more access to the system. usually for tweaks and such.
disadvantage? probably warranty, but there's also a thread to unroot the sgs if it comes to that.
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This is not a problem with the phone so much as more the owner not reading carefully. I was so happy to get my hands on a T-Mobile HTC HD7 that I missed a key detail. Apparently the phone does not work on FIDO 3G (I am in Toronto). It is unlocked and I can make and receive calls with no issue, but for the life of me I cannot get 3G to work. I'd even be willing to live with Edge since I'm near WiFi hotspots most of the time, but even on Edge I can't get data to flow (send/receive emails, browse web, login to facebook).
So any ideas on how to get this to work on 3G or should the owner concede defeat ?
I called FIDO tech support and they offered no help over the phone. They said contact the phone manufacturer. After checking with the great gentleman I bought the phone from, he asked did I set up the APN ? I of course said what's that? So I did an internet search and sure enough right off FIDO's Tech Support website:
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido
Why couldn't FIDO Tech Support on the phone just suggest this? sigh....
So issue is fixed once again. Not sure if I'm getting 3G or Edge but seems to be fast enough for me eitherway as I'm mainly checking email or facebook. Maybe when tethering is available, I'll notice a difference. Hope the above info is helpful.
You won't get 3G Data with this version of the HTC HD7. I believe a 3G version for Fido/Rogers etc will be available in the future but not release date is set yet.