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Qtek 9100 and upgrade to WM6

I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?

Let me be the first one to say it before someone else does... Read the Wiki
Joking aside, you need to give more info such as do you have a G3 or G4? Did you CID unlocked your device? The error you have given usually meant that your device is CID locked.

artisticcheese said:
I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?
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sounds like you didn't CID unlock before trying to flash a rom that didn't come from your carrier.
and the upgrade tool will not have the right info in those fields. If your phone is unlocked the upgrade will work properly. Make sure you use the correct procedure based on whether you have a G3 or G4 phone.

I have G3 device
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?

artisticcheese said:
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?
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What is your IPL/SPL. And how do you know it was never locked? Have you personally unlocked it? Have you ever flashed any rom that was not from your carrier successfully?
If you have a G3 (ipl/spl 2.26/2.26) then I suggest following the full unlocking tutorial thread that is stickied. Trust me your phone is acting like a locked phone. If you haven't personally unlocked it then just humor us and do this. You will be amazed at the results.
If you have a G4 (ipl/spl 2.26.0001/2.26.0001) then you will have to use the pay website to unlock your phone. There is no other known way to unlock G4 devices at this time.

I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?

artisticcheese said:
I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?
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SIM unlock will allow you to use any sim from any carrier without getting an invalid sim error. If you aren't getting this error already you should be ok not doing it but it doesn't hurt to do it since you are in there with Lokiwiz already.
The tutorial tells you to do the SIM unlock first then do the CID unlock.
once you are completely done don't forget to flash up to a 2.x rom (2.26 T-Mobile rom suggested) before flashing a custom rom.
At this point when you flash the custom rom your OS and possibly GSM will change (IPL/SPL may change if you use a rom that includes them)
You should be good to go once the CID unlock process is done completely.

I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,

artisticcheese said:
I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,
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Right now you need to install the button rom again to get both IPL and SPL to 1.05. At that point you can flash back up to 2.26 and then to a custom rom of your choice.
The reflash of the button 1.05 rom is to ensure that you are truly unlocked. you will see that both IPL and SPL go to 1.05 -- this is good
The flash to a carrier 2.x rom is so that you have a good 2.x bootloader and don't inadvertantly flash a 2.x rom without bootloaders into 1.x bootloaders which will cause all kinds of issues.
Yes, you must flash a full 2.x rom before flashing the wm6 rom. The T-Mobile 2.26 is the recommended rom as it has the latest bootloaders available.
Then you go to the rom of your choice and enjoy
I know it's a pain in the behind but it is tried and true

Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,

artisticcheese said:
Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,
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Might have to flash a rom that has an empty extended rom before going to the one you went to. My guess is that the rom you flashed did not include an extended rom and when you flashed it the customizations ran from the previous roms extended rom since it was still there.
Faria's 3.3 v2 has a settings chooser menu so you can select settings for whichever network you are on but that only sets up MMS/GPRS stuff, and doesn't install any carrier specific apps.

Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?

artisticcheese said:
Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?
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2.16 should be fine. It is 2.xx and that is what really matters.
The issue that some people encounter is flashing an AKU2 or higher ROM into 1.xx bootloaders and have all sorts of issues, phone won't charge, radio doesn't show up, pda works but phone doesn't, battery drains quickly and no way to recharge, etc.

How to unlock CID?

Hi all. Tried and tried in vain, to replace the T-mobile splash screen, only to find out that the phone is CID locked.
Managed to upgrade to WM6 though, thanks to vlodeck and nocturne.op.15
Here's the phone details:
IPL: 2.06
SPL: 2.06.0000
GSM: 02.19.21
OS: 10.2.0.8 (WM6 by vlodeck & nocturne)
Oh, and also worth mentioning, my PC is running on Vista Ultimate, on which RUU's don't work. But some people said that if I install VMWare Virtual PC and install XP on that, RUU works through it.
So, how to unlock CID of this phone?

Wish I knew!
I'm in the same boat, so please can someone advise, thanks.

to cid unlock to need a ver. 1.xx of ipl/spl. And seeing you have 2.xx you cant really downgrade to ver.1.x

but can you told me whats rom have ispl ipl 1.x??

ok so saying you have ipl 1. what ever how do you cid unlock?

ftp://[email protected]/Up...er_1120223_11202110_11220_T-MobileUK_Ship.rar
will have ipl and spl ver 1. wherever you can get to install or not, might work with a noID ruu. then you can use lokiwiz2 to unlock the CID

There are rom versions that have 1.xx IPL and SPL but from my own experience I know, that once you upgraded to 2.xx or more, you cant get back to 1.xx. The most you can get is 1.xx IPL and 2.xx SPL.
Cheers,
vlodeck.

So, What ROM we must flash? To have 1.xx IPL and 2.xx SPL?
Maybe offtopic, but I have another question: If I have ROM from ERA GSM POLAND can I flash AKU3.3 TMobileUK ROM?
Charmer community is so small.... ;(

adexxx, you misunderstood me. You can't get 1.xx IPL and 1.xx SPL once you've already upgraded to 2.xx.
If it's an official ROM then you can flash it no problem. If its a custom ROM, use the tool I described in WM6 charmer thread.

When I tried to update with RUU: RUU_Charmer_38221_382127_026921_TMO_HR_WWE_Ship it showed error: INVALID VENDOR
What I'm doing wrong?

use wizard noID upgrade utility. it's some around here, maybe even in charmer forum.

OK, I flashed and it works fine.
Now I have 3.0 IPL&SPL, my 1st splash was changed.
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Some help please

I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.

177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?

Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...

my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.

That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.

I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx

Definitly will.

Downgrade Locked G3 with 3.08 IPL/SPL

I have read the guides to unlocking and from what I see there are none that work on 3.xx SPL/IPL. I was able to downgrade the IPL but never the SPL.
I have seen several threads that say if you flash button rom (several times) it will eventually downgrade the SPL also, but all night as I worked I flashed the button ROM (about 12-15 times) and still can't downgrade the SPL from the 3.08, only IPL goes to 1.01
Tried the original Cingular ROM and it isn't accepted (I think because I have a higher SPL than the original 2.26), tried using the ShellTool, Tried SoftSPL too but none worked.
IS THERE A WAY TO DOWNGRADE THE 3.08 SPL SO THAT I CAN USE THE LOKIWIZ02 OR LOKIWIZ03. I saw a thred saying that 3.08 can't be downloaded but I also saw SEVERAL saying to just keep insisting with the Button rom that it will eventually work (but after almost 15 consecutive tries I've had it).
Any help would be GREAT.
thanks
MGF
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2

Button ROM doesn't work for that. I tried numerous times too. The only ROMs that work to downgrade to anything else from 3.08 are the OEM releases from either T-Mo or AT&T.
The Cingular ROM isn't accepted because it checks the OS version number. I had to try several peoples' ROMs until I found one with a low enough version number to where the Cingular ROm could flash on top of it.

Try to flash T-Mobile 2.26 to bring it down to ipl/spl 2,26 then go for button's 1.05,hope it'll do the trick.
Good luck
p.s. you can try the wizard_love_Rom also,lol

I want to downgrade my phone, too. but the original T-Mobile AKU2.0 say while reading the phones ROM-Version "only update"... so, with this no downgrade is possible.
How can i CID unlock with AKU3? I want to flash a new ROM from xda-developer as well... damn
Regards
Thomas

You could probably extract the nk.nbf and use the standard tools to flash it.
The nk.nbf can usually be found in a .tmp folder in c:\documents and settings\yourname\Local Settings\Temp

Thanx for your Hint... but which "Standard-Tool" should i use?
Sorry for this silly question, but i am new in experience with my vario

imate kjam
hello, i am new enterent on this forum and need help for, have imate kjam G3 IPL/SPL 1.xx os 1.1.9.3 device and i want to upgrade with latest WM 5 SE 3.8.2.1. Can i upgrade this OS without facing any prb i.e CID/sim locked prb??? kindly adivice to me what is the right way to upgrade my imate kjam (t-mobile) thank you.
best regards
farry

Unless you are using official kjam update, otherwise please CID unlock your G3 device first, or you will face problems.

thank u for advice, but how to CID unlock first before upgrade the rom, any tool for apply to unlock?? plz help
regards
farry

Downgrade or change ROM, how?

I have dopod 838 which i already upgraded to WM6 (for the first time, since I use PDA ) I'm following the upgrade tutorial from the wiki and I use the WM 6.0 ROM made by mfrazzz.
my question is how to downgrade to WM5 (original from dopod asia)? I already download the ROM but I'm not sure whether i need to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx like when I'm upgrading it to WM6?
I see another new ROM is released, and i want to switch to that ROM, must I re do all the steps I done when upgrading from WM5 to WM6?
note the IPL/SPL is 3.xx on my dopod 838.
please help. thanks

Please see mestrini's response

markhard said:
I have dopod 838 which i already upgraded to WM6 (for the first time, since I use PDA ) I'm following the upgrade tutorial from the wiki and I use the WM 6.0 ROM made by mfrazzz.
my question is how to downgrade to WM5 (original from dopod asia)? I already download the ROM but I'm not sure whether i need to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx like when I'm upgrading it to WM6?
I see another new ROM is released, and i want to switch to that ROM, must I re do all the steps I done when upgrading from WM5 to WM6?
note the IPL/SPL is 3.xx on my dopod 838.
please help. thanks
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Never go from 3.xx to 1.xx as the SPL might get locked. Stop at 2.xx before downgrading further.
WM5 can work with 1.xx and 2.xx but WM6 only with 2.xx and 3.xx

oh no.. I did re-flash it back to 1.xx per instruction on the wiki. I then upgrade the ROM to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx, after that upgrade again to 3.08 then upgrade to WM6.1
the upgrade is success, do I need to check for something? as you said that the SPL might locked?
so.. in case i want to change/downgrade ROM i just need to re-flash to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx?
thank you for your answers

markhard said:
oh no.. I did re-flash it back to 1.xx per instruction on the wiki. I then upgrade the ROM to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx, after that upgrade again to 3.08 then upgrade to WM6.1
the upgrade is success, do I need to check for something? as you said that the SPL might locked?
so.. in case i want to change/downgrade ROM i just need to re-flash to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx?
thank you for your answers
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Sometimes,if you directly downgrade from 3.08 to 1.xx,SPL gets locked and it's very difficult to bring it to 1.xx,so its advised,if your phone is already CID unlocked and upgraded to 3.08,don't downgrade to 1.xx again,but if you want to reflash a new rom and want a solid base like T-mobile,then just downgrade to 2.xx,avoid going down to 1.xx.
Cheers!

OK, thanks for the answers