Does the Tilt/Kaiser support USB on the go? (ability with drivers for phone to act as USB host, not just client).
I haven't been able to find anything definative.
i dono if this is what you mean but if you want to be able to use your phone as a storage device there was a program called wm5torage if thats what you want its pretty easy to find or you can pm me
wm5torage do not work with tytnII (and looks like will not work - check MoDaCo). need to use softick card export II (shareware)..
USB otg is something different.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
Im not sure if the Kaiser has it but TBH I doubt it.
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Hello all,
I have a problem: When I connect my Kaiser with a USB cable to a foreign computer it always wants to install drivers for my device, which, especially when i don't have administrative privilegs (school) renders my PDA useless.
So:
Is there a way (program/software?) to make the Kaiser look just like a USB stick for a PC? Just so that you can copy files?
WM5Storage
Google WM5Storage. Also works for WM6 and is fantastic. If activated your device is recognized as generic mass storage device.
BenOggo said:
Google WM5Storage. Also works for WM6 and is fantastic. If activated your device is recognized as generic mass storage device.
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Is WM5torage working out of the box, or does it still need the workaround with Softick Card Export?
wow, extremely fast reply, will check it out, thanks a LOT
however...I believe it is USB 1.1, not 2.0
I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe
snap156 said:
I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe
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This will not work as the Diamond has no USB host interface!
The only device which I know of which has a USB host is Xda Flame.
thanks for the reply, actually i was thinking of the flame before i looked at the diamond, i guess theres no comparison...
its a cool idea... wouldn't mind seeing it on a device someday
Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
It would look ridiculous anyway. The Diamond is so small you can afford to carry that AND an Archos anyway. That is what I will do.
Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I guess because the hardware doesn't support it??
I had this feature on my Flame, was cool but I didn't use it much. You could even connect KB/mouse!
Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards
eurofan said:
Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
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Where did you find this USB Stick ?
I am searching for that to use with the Diamond and try it
Here you are:
Intos-USB-Adapter-Adapter-USB-Buchse
cable version
regards
demacus said:
I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards
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yeah it looks like it works on the picture.
would be nice to be able to add usbstick to our Diamond, for backup and easy install
where did the pic come from? does the diamond recognize the flash drive?
The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
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The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
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Where can we download it?
xda-dev wiki... like all the other manuals too.
Ok, I must be mistaken here then. Diamond have USB host, at least hardware support for it (unless they have some crossover MC inside this "Y-cable").
Hovewer it seems that it have only limited support in bootloader to load ROM image from memory stick.
Question is if it have the host driver in the Windows Mobile to actually support USB accesses inside WM?
Even soldered myself an y-wire for testing.
Inside Windows Mobile nothing happens when the stick is plugged in. (used an 8GB USB-Stick)
Diamond research section is not so far in the moment, so I don't know how to test if it will work in bootloader mode.
I think they have some electronics switched between device and disk, for access without driver.
edit: removed stupid thoughts, now simple using cat command...
regards
Hi
Is there any progress on this? Do you think we may have usb host for the Diamond at some point in the future?
So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
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So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
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i think you should try a smaller stick...
as i remember there were problems in "window mobiling" with external drives (SD cards..) larger than 1GB
any luck with , would be tops
any progress?... I am looking forward..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413510
Hi There,
i have been searching for a while now but i could not find it anywhere.
is there a tool for the tytn II thats makes it possible to connect it to the computer and that you get a menu with the following:
active sync
disk drive mode
internet sharing
just like the diamond.
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
on my rom i only have these 2 options
active sync
internet sharing
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That's because on the Kaiser nothing but the CardExport program manages to emulate disk drive mode.
Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
The only time I used disk drive mode on my Hermes was so I could charge it via my PS3 usb port since I spend a considerable amount of time next to my PS3 (my ps3 is next to my theater chair since I have a 122" projection screen and the Projector and surround sound system - and PS3 - are next to the chairs in the back of the room.)
I haven't tried it on my Kaiser since when I got the Kaiser it came with another charger which I placed there so I don't need the PS3 to charge anymore.
I'd be interested to see if it would increase the transfer speed though.. my God is it slow..
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
try WM5torage
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Is the disk drive mode that CardExport gives you noticeably better than just exploring the phone when it's plugged in normally? I know when you do it that way it threatens to convert your files when you copy them over, but in my experience it never actually does.
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Yes its MUCH faster.
vernoncomph said:
try WM5torage
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does not work on kaiser unless you hack in the cardexport driver.
l3it3r said:
I think that's cooked into the HyperDragon III Raphael ROM.. I'll test it out later.. I only ever hit the active sync button since I don't like transferring over USB due to the ridiculously slow connection.
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
Nope, nevermind. PLugged it in and it's just active sync or internet sharing.. I can't remember where I saw that... might have been another phone I was using.. lol..
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Same here, much faster for big files like TomTom maps.
rmg said:
Yes its MUCH faster.
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
ADB100 said:
There is one utility 'nueMassStorage' that is supposed to do this, however I can't get it to work. I have it cooked into my rom and it does indeed present you with the option of ActiveSync or Mass Storage when you connect it to a PC via USB. ActiveSync works as normal but unfortunately I can't get the Mass Storage to work - it appears as a drive but Windows can't open it.
Maybe you can have more luck with it? Its available here as an OEM package to cook into a ROM or as a .cab to install.
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
Andy
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thnx mate i'm gonna try this tool
as for wm5torage even after finetuning the program it still het stuck
Damn it does not work
softick's card export 3.15
i'm using softick's card export II ver3.15 with Win XP PRO SP3
it's working fine
CEII actually started kaiser support with ver3.12.....that was working fine too...
i'm on Hyperdragon's lite rom
I have Voice COmmand instlled as well, and Card EXport worked fine for me.. I used it as a thumb drive with ym car stereo (atleast during the free trial) and it worked great.. my comptuer saw the phone as a USB drive as well.... I got the stock at&t 6.0 rom with the bloatware removed and lots of extra programs isntalled... Running Vista ultimate x64 edition....
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I'd like to know how they got this working? I have tried all the USB memory card utilities I could find (WM5torage, Card Export and nueMassStorage) and I can't get any of them to work. WM5Torage just doesn't work at all, Card Export & nueMassStorage seem to exhibit the same behaviour where they activate and Windows sees a storage card but can't access it (I think it asks if you want to format it). I have tried on 4 different Windows XP & 2003 machines and all behave the same so it is obviously the Kaiser (or the ROM).
I have MS Voice Command installed and I think I read that this might be the problem, however I gave up in the end and carry a tiny microSD-USB adapter on a keyring so I can at least get access, even if I have to take the microSD out.
Andy
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Hmmm... I might give it a try then. Normally I use my card reader when I have big stuff to transfer, but it'd be nice to not have to physically move my card.
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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It's faster than Activesync indeed, and maybe more importantly doesn't require it to be installed on the PC you want to transfer files from, but it's still MUCH slower than putting the card in a reader. The communication on the Kaiser's USB is done at USB1.1 speeds (~800kB/s max while a card in a reader usually results in 3-15MB/s depending on the card and reader).
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Yes this was my findings exactly. If you can use the card reader then do because nothing comes close in terms of speed.
I need my Kaiser being seen, by pc or other device, as a USB mass storage device.
The main need is for car charging...
My car has a Usb port to play mp3 on usb mass storage device.
This port provides enough power to charge my Kaiser.
Unfortunately, as the car doesn't recognize the Kaiser as a valid storage device, it makes a timeout warning and shuts off the port power.
On my previous WM5 phone, I used a tool (whose name I don't remember right now, but it doesn't work on WM6.5) that enables the phone being seen as a storage device.
Does anyone know a tool to obtain this behaviour?
Thanks for your help
Thunder
Have you searched for this program?
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Have you searched for this program?
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Yes, the tool was WM5Storage.
It creates a USB mass storage device on my PC, but this device is not usable (XP asks to format it), even by checking/unchecking troubleshooting options in WM5Storage.
Right now I've been able to make SoftTick CardExport trial software work to reach this task.
I've to check the behaviour in my car USB port...
Thunder