Just wondering if anyone else's Tilt is acting up like mine, the keyboard when sending texts will sometimes miss a good bit of key presses and I have to go back 3 or 4 times to register the key.
It worked fine at first so I figured it was something I did so I tried a hard reset and after about 30 minutes it started again.
yup - my keyboard has been crappy since day 1. i often miss key presses and the 'click' feedback isn't there on some presses.
never had a problem with my 8525s - had 3 of them and the keyboard was always flawless.
waiting for a store to get more stock so i can see if have a faulty keyboard.
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
rking84 said:
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
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is this with the AT&T rom? the HTC rom? or both?
this is the at&t rom, without the bloatware installed.
With all the crap that AT&T did to their ROM, I don't know why anybody on here uses it. I had it for half an hour before I couldn't stand it anymore and switched to the HTC ROM.
same bug with german t-mobile rom... its like the device is busy.
unfortunately the same on HTC Tytn II German Rom too.
so is this a defect with the hardware or the software? i dont want to bother exchanging it if it happens on every device.
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
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I experience missed key presses but rarely. I do however experience a probelm when using shift quite a bit. If I want to capitalize a letter I hit shift and then type the word, sometimes it will also capitalize the second letter. So Happy would be typed out as HAppy. It's annoying going back to fix it!!!!!!!!!!
RacerX10 said:
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
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Disabling these solved it.
decepticon said:
Disabling these solved it.
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didn't work for me. German HTC ROM. Only happens if double letters are typed quickly. second letter gets lost. it is definitely a bug!
I noticed that the "C" button I have to press harder to get it to work.. I'm going to see if I can have my tilt replaced ..
Just info no solution.
Using HTC shipped ROM
There are two issues outlined: Repeated letter getting missed and Shift causing capitalization of second letter as well as the first.
Issue one I cannot reproduce even with auto correct and word completion set to on. No matter how fast I get the letters in, both letters appear. The implication is that it may be a ROM issue, but also of course may be due to other apps installed. Less likely to be hardware, except in as much as some people may be pressing less firmly for the second letter???
The second issue where after pressing shift two letters instead of the first only are capitalized. I can reproduce this but only under fixed circumstances:
1.
There needs to be a clear release of the first letter before the second is pressed. So for example if you hit (shift) then an "A" with your left thumb and "L" with your right thumb the both letters will be capitalized if you are still pressing the "A" when you hit the "L". Never will it then give a third capitalized letter because clicking the second letter cancels the (shifT) key.
2.
If the first letter and the second are very close together say "D" and "E" it is possible to move from one to the other without releasing the first and again both letters will be capitalised.
So in conclusion I think this happens when either the letters are imediately adjacent to each other or if the first letter is not being released fast enough ie before the second one is pressed (easy to do if you are using two fingers to type quickly)
Mike
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
re: Mike
thanks for the test. it does seem like it would be a software problem, but i have installed both the att and the cooked rom from the kaiser upgrading forum, and they both have the double-letter problem.
i tried it right after i loaded the cooked rom, so i dont think it would be any software i loaded. and whether auto-correct/word completion on, it happens.
anyone else have any ideas?
alaiwy said:
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
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double letter or capitalization issue?
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
alaiwy said:
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
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some just posted this in howardforums:
have you tried changing this?
Start->Settings->Buttons->Up/Down Control and make the delay short.
i tried it and it seemed like it made it better? it doesn't seem to refer to the keyboard but it works i think...?
Does anyone have the problem when you type on the keyboard normal speed, some letters dont appear and you have to go back and retype those letters? Its kinda fustrating and seems to be a software issue.
Yes, I think a few people have this, me included. It happens with double letters.
I'm not convinced it's a software problem, I've been trying to get a replacement but HTC is not very cooperative.
It is highly annoying. But I think I'm more annoyed with HTC than with the phone itself.
Btw, you might want to try turning Autocomplete off (the dictionary slows things down). Also:
Start -> Settings -> Buttons -> Up/Down Control
If you put the delay to minimum, it seems to make things better.
so not every unit has this problem even though using the same rom?
Yes it could be limited to some units that fall within a certain range of serial numbers. But I'm just guessing, I'm no expert
You tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342886&highlight=key+repeat
Yes, if you look at the second post I have
I have had the same results on three seperate phones.
All three phones have the following Device Information:
ROM version: 1.56.421.1
ROM date: 10/26/07
Radio version: 1.27.15.32
Protocol version: 22.51.88.13H
Phones hang when locked, which stops all incoming calls. Can only recover by resetting phone. This makes the phones unusable while travelling.
The symptom:
The screen cannot be activated after the power button is pressed. It is as if the phone is powered off although the LED is still flashing (slowly) indicating that the phone is still powered on.
This generally occurs after the phone is locked, the screen is switched off by briefly pressing the power button, and the phone is not in use for a while (+- 10 min).
The cure:
The power switch has no affect. The only way to get the phone to switch on is to press the reset switch at the bottom of the phone and then press the power button.
Leaf have:
a) Reloaded the ROM’s on both phones.
b) Replaced the board on one phone.
c) Replaced the phone in b) with a new phone.
None of these actions has resolved the problem.
Your help will be most appreciated.
its called the sleep of death.......there's have been threads about this in the past, dont know if there has been any resolution or not, but its a good start search for it
I has having the same problem, two to three times a week.
May be a total coincidence, but mine stopped locking up after I changed the "Today timeout" from the default 4 hours to 12 hours.
Start / Settings / Today / Items
like I said, I have no idea if this will work for anyone else - but it seems to have solved my problem.
If this happened after a phone call then it´s a known bug in the TyTNII HTC ROM, which will result in the above behaviour when a device password has been set and the screen switches off during a phone call.
If this is a known problem, how did you manage to find out?
I have not managed to find any related info on the HTC site. Also the local agent Leaf is not aware of it (to my knowledge).
Have you any idea how we communicate with HTC and actually get a response?
Does anyone on this site represent HTC or does anyone know if HTC monitors this site?
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If this happened after a phone call then it´s a known bug in the TyTNII HTC ROM, which will result in the above behaviour when a device password has been set and the screen switches off during a phone call.
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My Tilt would freeze after being asleep for a while. Never after a phone call.
The original thread has quite a bit of information on various reasons why this can occur and suggestions on how to solve it. As suggested by others, you can find this thread by doing a search on 'Sleep of Death Kaiser'. If you're feeling particularly lazy, you can use this humorous link to get the same search results.
Even if this thread *DOES* contain new and useful information, it'll be nearly impossible for others to find, amongst the other redundant threads on this topic. By starting another redundant thread, you add to the clutter of the forum, making it much harder for others to search for solutions.
As for HTC, they have their own forums, located here
(also found on google, but not the top result (5th to 10th), by searching for HTC forum.
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
1. Like you say theres already lots of threads on this, with people complaining, then others saying they're having no issue, or to wait a bit and the battery gets into better condition
2. If display didnt activate people would moan about that too
3. Huh? A text wont send till youve entered a contact and you press Send
4. Then you must have a program using the connection like push mail or live messenger
5. True. Opera is still a beta version though so issues will be dealt with i guess
6. Maybe that's an issue with your rom, I've not seen this
7. Indeed - Annoying. I think this is seen as one of the least Important parts of Exchange so it often gets left out of things like this.
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1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
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you can pick up diffrent ones, but remember that your diamond will gain pounds. try getting a new rom, the newer ones boost battery by 50%
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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regedit, i don't know, someone here should maybe know
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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the pressure of the screen could be set, try the diamond tweaks forum
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
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change the connection?
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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takes some time to get used to, much better than other phones, but still yet not good enough, updates will be made.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
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didnt try that yet
7- no tasks on TF3D
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+1,000,000,000...
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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it's smarter than an iphone... but more complicated
AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
Agree
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
Agree
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
Not shore
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
Agree even whit No Data I have connection sometimes
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
Agree, the zoom function is nothing else as a unuseable function.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
Agree
7- no tasks on TF3D
TF3D is the biggest mistake in my opinion, but whit SPB mobile shell I started to like my diamond.
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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One off the favors of the Diamond is that you keep reading this forum just to find solutions.
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1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
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Battery life does improve with time. It is lasting about 2 days for me now. I read that the 3G iPhone has a similar battery life. The Diamond is not bad, considering how much smaller it is, and the VGA screen.
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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This will be a problem with all touchscreen phones, if you set it to answer on any key press. I must admit I keep my Diamond in my pocket without a case and haven't had this problem.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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Haven't had this problem, but then, my fingers are probably not as fat as yours
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
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Use CommManager to shut off the connection. I do this after I have finished with the connection. I don't mind it, and would actually find it annoying if the connection closed automatically after the program closes, as I usually use other programs which require a data connection straight after.
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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Opera is a great browser, but the small screen is a limitation when you have to input anything. For just plain browsing though, it works really well
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
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Haven't had this happen to me.
7- no tasks on TF3D
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I actually gave up on TF3D and now use SPB Mobile Shell. This has been a revelation in how a touch system should be implemented. It is extremely responsive, easy to use, intuitive, and fully customisable. Also looks pretty with its own 3D effects. I think it compares very favourably with the iPhone interface.
To bad that you start to dislike it, anyway take a look here you might change your mind after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMTEbbCKNc
lucasjohny said:
To bad that you start to dislike it, anyway take a look here you might change your mind after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMTEbbCKNc
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this is cool... Any idea, beside second today, what else are in there? those that you slide from top to bottom and comm manager show up...
thx
sudsboy said:
this is cool... Any idea, beside second today, what else are in there? those that you slide from top to bottom and comm manager show up...
thx
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look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2451764
AntiProxy said:
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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Ever heard of the kitchen??
Read on punk!: LINK
Even more? LINK
More? Link
It is perfectly normal to feel like this, I actually use my HTc diamond mainly for sat nav and a back up phone. I also have the iphone 3g and it is a pain in the back. But I will keep persisting with both as they get better with updates.
apple_power said:
It is perfectly normal to feel like this, I actually use my HTc diamond mainly for sat nav and a back up phone. I also have the iphone 3g and it is a pain in the back. But I will keep persisting with both as they get better with updates.
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Interesting, I was thinking of doing a similar thing. As you have both and use both, how does the battery life compare? If you leave on all the 3g options on the iPhone, and likewise on the Diamond.?
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look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2451764
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thx. that looks really useful, i guess i'll have to install the same set. he he he
Bored with the diamond.
Will use it for parties and of course for navigation (got garmin running on it.. and it works well for that)
Have had a tough time using a phone other than the SE P series (owned them all and loved them all.. without the flip .. all of them look amazing)
Back to my SE p1i as my primary phone. Diamond - put in my other sim card.. the number I rarely use...
it's not bad.. it's just not...whatever.
I got it on an impulse.. loved the looks.. hated a few things. Found this forum and it definitely made the diamond more interesting and useable.
so thank you guys.
But.. SE has spoilt me. In between I had tried Nokias and Moto's as well. Also tried out I mates.. but just didn't do it for me. Had to come back to one of my SE P series eventually (800, 900, 910, 990 and now 1)
But......
still waiting for the xperia.. will definitely give that one a try too.
(just can't help myself)
1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
i dun have any problems... try to install comm manager.cab... disable wifi and beam if u have to on yer bluetooth..
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
yer keys are unlocked.. choose lock instead under windows mobile settings
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
use the compact qwerty.. big enough for fat fingers.. any larger wait for the touch pro to arrive
4- i can't seem to get dataconnections to shut off with the hangup button, or with an auto timer.. i tried various registry settings, yet my connection is almost always on (auto connect is disabled, but once it connects, it stays on)
tts wad most peeps want rite.. use MOnaco's nodata.cab... u can disable and activate connections depending on when u want it.. do things manually is still the best.. esp when it concerns your bills
5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
zoom in then login
i din really have such an issue
6- the contact list in the phone dialer sometimes has the wrong type of contact on, like txt or fax, etc.. and in 60% of the cases when i press the right/left navigation on the d-pad to switch to a different number belonging to the same contact, the thing goes into a loop spinning numbers nonstop till i exit the phone and get back on again.
tts cuz the sim card saved wrongly the contact in the past..
7- no tasks on TF3D
task manager? or task as in the one that complements note?
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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1- Battery life (there are already some 60 threads on the subject..)
2- When the phone rings, the display is activated and the softkeys automatically unlock causing you to reject or answer calls randomly while drawing the phone out of your pocket or pouch.
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Give this baby a try
It has an option to "Slide for answer", so you have to "do da slide" like on iPhone to actually answer, so no rejected call will be ever
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
3- when sending an SMS, you type up your contact name (or part of it) then the diamond shows you a list of names to pick from. if by chance you clicked the wrong name (fat fingers anyone? ) you're outta luck.. the message gets sent straight away to the wrong contact..
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huh, never seen it.
Did you tryed to upgrade your ROM?
This will boost the performance (as it have lates OS from HTC + TouchFlo3d speed patches and some garbage removed ^_^)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430
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5- Opera is cool and all, but for some reason i'm finding it extremely difficult to use..
try opening facebook on it.. and at least in my case, the login screen redraws like 10 times while i try to type my damn login/password in.
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Yeap, this could be a little bit harder, but at other hand you have Internet Explorer too )) Or even Opera Mini at hand.
Iphone does not have those kind of options, think of it ))
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7- no tasks on TF3D
i'm not giving up hope on it yet, and i hope that most of these issues would be addressed when the Touch Pro is out.
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I think this is a MUST HAVE (or TODO) feature for HTC, and i'm more than confident, that they will do it, in some later ROMs ))
So, things are not that bad as they seems ))
I can bet that most of your problems have to do with buggy ROM ))