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Cingular 8125 rom upgraded to rom 2.16.9.101 successfully

I have installed the 1.12.10 GSM on it after making backups with aWizard. I am happy to report that it does work and that it does speed up the initial connection. Before (with 1.09.11 I beleive) I could log into (enter my PIN) and would still have some time before I would connect and get signal bars. It also seemed to increase refresh rates of the bars. Now the signal is usually found before I even finish entering my PIN muchless the today screen loading.
These tests were made in my basement at my house where I typically have been getting 1-3 bars. now to test 1.13.10 and 2.8 OS to see if it works.
I will say I thought it broke at first because I couldn't get my PC to talk to it after it reloaded, then I did another soft reset and the boot screen the second time didn't list the GSM version, even though the OS did see and use GSM. I re-ran the CID unlock procedure again since I could talk to the phone again. Reset again and GSM ver was on the boot screen again.
I also swapped out the boot screen for a bmp and that worked wonderfully. my only question is if there is a way to swap out the booting screen of the OS and not just the IPL Rom.
cheers,
ET

I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.

I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?

ok, i updated my 8125 to the new rom and am having two issues atm. first, the phone signal icon and the battery icon on the today screen is cut off so i only see the edge icon. secondly, i cannot start wifi at all, no matter what i do :\ (it looks like it's thinking but doesn't actually turn on ) now i did apply the cingular extended rom to this so i dont know if that caused both issues or not. as for edge performance, i'm in an area with bad signal so i couldnt exactly test it. i'm going to be clearing storage tonight and see if that fixes both issues or not. i haven't tested push e-mail as clubimates servers AREN'T supporting direct push (ie they don't have SP2 installed or have it enabled on exchange).

Locked up
Well I am noticing that it is locking up if I let it sit for a while to where I can't bring it back up. I have disabled the lock code to see if that fixes it.
I would have a feeling that the problems you are having are because of the enhanced rom difference. it won't hurt to try it as is like I did since you are having problems with it.

were can I fine install
I look for the rom in the ftp but there is no RUU install of 2.16.9.101 can you please tell me where can I fin this rom
thank you

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638
Scroll down to HTTP server link.
Cheers

thanks
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET

Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?

after the upgrade i cant find the GPS ICON
even i try to delete the redirect string in the registry like i used to do before
still i cant see the icon on my setting page
please anyone noticed this problem ?
tx

exchguy said:
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
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i finally fixed the signal strength icon (but don't ask me how), but wifi is still borked

no more problems, lock ups or otherwise
My guess with my problems were related to Battery Pack Pro demo. Even on the original rom I couldn't get it to work right with the assignable hard keys.
Anyway, I did not modify the original EXE one bit like darkjedi said he did. He seems to be much more advanced as I don't know how to do what he did and not that familier with its registry settings yet. But I naver had any problems with Wifi nor with icon placement.
My home wifi does use WPS-PSK TKIP using a Netgear WG302. Battery life seems good, but I do get a little crackle every now and then on my end of the bluetooth handsfree. People I talk to haven't said they hear anything other than perfect clarity. I would have been told if they heard anything since part of my reason to spend the money now rather than later was my voice and signal quality on my old Nokia was getting to be bad and they wouldn't waste a second ragging me if voice and signal problems were re-appearing. But mostly the crackle is few and far between and usually when my headset is on the other side of my body or I am a few feet away from my phone.

i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.

i dnt see the rush to upgrade if u have a cingular 8125 since there goa offer rom upgrades for the unit. with all the bugs i rather just get a ad2 bt plugin (wish they made it) and just do that

what roms do they offer? On my past phones I have had to have major problems before they would flash a new version of the Rom (my last 2 symbian phones).

darkjedi said:
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
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ok... the only cab I installed for Cingular was the one I mentioned earlier. I have since installed spb power plus and their weather app and I am still stable. Not one failuer and my bluetooth is actually acting better from some reason. I was working on my car today with teh phone in the car and I was about 10 feet away without any noise or other problems.

Re: thanks
ethorn said:
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
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Is there any settings to configure edge? I only see GPRS in the connections section.
This version appears quite stable but's only my second day since upgrading my 8125 from the QTECH 2.8.7.102. I really like the Comm manager and the Push Email icon works great.
Thanks!

name of account
the only thing that I have notice so far is that the name of my celular company (I could see before upgrade) now i only see numbers.

exchguy said:
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
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On the new imate ROM I'm getting between 65 and 110 kbps on edge. Latency is still crap at about 1.5 seconds on average, but that's what it's always been for me.
Direct push is great. Assuming you have Exch SP2 installed, push works without any other changes. I'm averaging between 7 and 10 seconds for an entry to push out after it gets to Exchange. I haven't installed the device management tools yet, but I'll do that soon and let you know how well they work.
I just noticed wifi isn't working. If I enable it in comm manager, the button is ringed in green as if it's on, but the left green led does not blink and it does not detect my open, unsecured access point. I did install the cabs from my original cingular extended rom, and one of those appears realted to wifi, but not sure what it does. I'll mess around some more and see what I can do. I'm not totally heartbroken that wifi is messed up, but it does bug me that I don't know why it aint working.

Need Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab file
ethorn said:
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
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Where did you get the "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" file? I have searched everywhere and cannot find it! Help?

Interesting Issue

I have CID Unlocked my 8125 and upgraded numerous times. In my playing around with the roms and Cingular Ext Rom cabs i found an intersting abberation. No matter what Rom I use if I the cingular 1.08 extended Rom cabs and install them on my 8125 and Run one cab in particular. it is the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. Then I flash my radio ROM twice. I then have 4 bars of reception just about anywhere i go. For example on of our stores we normally get 0-1 bars of reception, but when i do the above mentioned process I get 4 bars at the cost of a little more battery power. But when i do this I cannot use the wifi. I click on the wifi icon in the connection manager and it thinks for a little bit then goes back to the icon with the x in it. Anyone got any ideas?? Like the extra power but want to use wifi.

barrydavisjr said:
I have CID Unlocked my 8125 and upgraded numerous times. In my playing around with the roms and Cingular Ext Rom cabs i found an intersting abberation. No matter what Rom I use if I the cingular 1.08 extended Rom cabs and install them on my 8125 and Run one cab in particular. it is the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. Then I flash my radio ROM twice. I then have 4 bars of reception just about anywhere i go. For example on of our stores we normally get 0-1 bars of reception, but when i do the above mentioned process I get 4 bars at the cost of a little more battery power. But when i do this I cannot use the wifi. I click on the wifi icon in the connection manager and it thinks for a little bit then goes back to the icon with the x in it. Anyone got any ideas?? Like the extra power but want to use wifi.
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I seem to remember sumitter mentioning something about him leaving that particular cab out of his ROM's due to that WIFI issue...

Dr Puttingham said:
I seem to remember sumitter mentioning something about him leaving that particular cab out of his ROM's due to that WIFI issue...
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I have been searching for days on wifi issues. I tell you the trade off is almost worth it. I find it very interseting quirk how the wifi doesn't work but the reception of the phone is increased. I wish i knew more about it to find out why it happens like that.

I don't use Wifi at all having unlimited data tariff, and the reception where I live is absolutely terrible- most of the time no signal at all.
Is it possible to install that cab and then uninstall it somehow without the hard reset? If I need to use wifi abroad etc.
Could someone please post it here?

rottie said:
I don't use Wifi at all having unlimited data tariff, and the reception where I live is absolutely terrible- most of the time no signal at all.
Is it possible to install that cab and then uninstall it somehow without the hard reset? If I need to use wifi abroad etc.
Could someone please post it here?
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If you go to the FTP and go to wizard page and the Extended Rom. Look for the Cingular_8125_108EXTROM. download it and unzip it and look for the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. You will then have to falsh your radio twice. I reccomend Summiters 2.17 and then the wizard 2.25. I have not been able to figure out how to disable it through the registry. I don't know what settings that it is playing with. Each time i had to hard reset to remove the problem.

barrydavisjr said:
If you go to the FTP and go to wizard page and the Extended Rom. Look for the Cingular_8125_108EXTROM. download it and unzip it and look for the Signed_gprsstall.cab.sa. You will then have to falsh your radio twice. I reccomend Summiters 2.17 and then the wizard 2.25. I have not been able to figure out how to disable it through the registry. I don't know what settings that it is playing with. Each time i had to hard reset to remove the problem.
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Too much hassle with hard reset and reinstalling everything...Can't be bothered then, even for improved reception...
Noone calls me anyway

rottie said:
Too much hassle with hard reset and reinstalling everything...Can't be bothered then, even for improved reception...
Noone calls me anyway
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Drives me nuts. I never use wifi but i always want everything to work perfectly though.

I found the file that causes the conflict but have not been able to remove or correct it. When you install the gprsstall cab it installs a file rilgsm.dll. When i renamed it through the active sync for a brief moment the wifi appeared again until Windows automatically duplicated the file and put it back on.

Need help getting default comm manager back

I have had problem after problem with the various comm managers out there. From blue tooth issues to inoperability of WLAN. As of now I have uninstalled the add-ons but the comm manager is void of icons and probably is not working. WLAN is not connecting at all. It seems that something remaining from the add-on is keeping it from enabling since I did a hard boot and so it connect for about 3 seconds. How do I get the default ATT comm back?
Thanks,
Dan

If you have a handy backup, it's your life saver. Otherwise, hard reset will bring back the default Comm Manager. FYI, here is a 10 buttons that works on Tilt http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1430168&postcount=3. you dl the last one "For 10 Button CommManager with 3G Only and GPRS Only switch", unzip then install "for the others.."

I did a hard reset and it DID NOT bring back the comm. I stupidly had not been backing up.

I installed a 10 button comm newer than the link you gave and meant for the exact device I have, not a general one. And it was programmed by the same guy. I do not think installing that one will do the trick.

I make this CAB with default parameters of my black CommManager...
Test it and post the results if you want. I have used in the past in my TyTN II to revert to default CommMamanager after testing other CABs out there, and works fine for me.
Good luck.

Ok you rock. It looks like it worked. It doesn't look like the original Tilt comm but it appears to have the same finction and it accomplished my objective. The problem I was having was with the WLAN. I was able to load up some of the other comm's but I could not turn the WLAN on and off. It would stick one way or the other. After loading that cab I was finally able to switch it.
It all started while I was on the car trying to take a call through the blue tooth. The blue tooth rang but the phone is what picked up. After that the comm went mostly black. Uninstalled the comm and the default comm did not come back and some of the functions of the other comm seemed to remain in the registry.
I am still looking for a comm that has internet sharing as a button instead of wireless modem. I downloaded one that had it in the picture but when installed it actually had Modem instead.
Thanks

Yes, I had downloaded & installed "10Buttons for Hermes" and my wifi function button died, then I loaded the "Kaiser.CommManager.10Button.3GOnly.Switch.For.Other." wifi function comes back as the orginal. Now everything works as it should, plus I can turn on/off 3G to save the batt. BTW, my tilt runs on Helmi cooked ROM Big storage (based on att&t)
Just found another thread to fix WLAN button; post #23: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438&page=3
Good luck to you.

Loading that cab still disables my wifi. I guess I have to modify the reg directly. What is the best way to regedit? Is there a program already on the tilt?

Now when I load JCES's cab I lose the icons again. I am going to go ahead and do a restore. Something I should have done before I started all the cabs but I am an idiot. I did a restore after JCES cab fixed the problem.

Pages not loading in PIE

When I try accesing a webpage on my tilt, it looks like its loading, then it shows 0kb at the bottom, and just displays a blank page. The wierd thing is that it works in any other program (skyfire, operamini, seven(email)), and it works when I am connected to wifi, I've tried flashing two different roms, including the original AT&T. I have 2-3 bars on 3g coverege, but it does it everywhere.
It started like a month ago, and a soft reset would ussually fix the problem..(now it doesnt)
I would really appreciate any feedback...

Have you tried to disable the PIE proxy either with the cab file or the registry?

PsyOpWarlord said:
Have you tried to disable the PIE proxy either with the cab file or the registry?
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It was the proxy... I when I flashed back to the original rom, and removed the proxy in "proxy manager" it started working, so I just copied the cab file to use on dutty's... and its working great.
thanks..
kind of off-topic, but I have a att spash creen now even in the dutty rom, i had "smart mobility" before, how can I change that?

You can start here for information on the splash screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338779&highlight=splash+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336174
http://wm5.mobi/wall/anim.html

driving me nuts too!!!
pcharouz said:
When I try accesing a webpage on my tilt, it looks like its loading, then it shows 0kb at the bottom, and just displays a blank page. The wierd thing is that it works in any other program (skyfire, operamini, seven(email)), and it works when I am connected to wifi, I've tried flashing two different roms, including the original AT&T. I have 2-3 bars on 3g coverege, but it does it everywhere.
It started like a month ago, and a soft reset would ussually fix the problem..(now it doesnt)
I would really appreciate any feedback...
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I am dealing with the same problem. My GF and I both have Tilts. Hers runs 6.0 ATT newest ROM and I run Dutty 6.1 with the new PIE.
Anyway, I have found that if you go into your GPRS settings and edit your proxy settings (you don't actually need to change anything) and hit next till you're done. It will then say something about needing to reconnect or something when you're done.
After that, PIE will work without a reboot or anything. It seems to happen every few days for her and less for me. Definitely has something to do with AT&T's proxy and it's maddening. AT&T has not been helpful either...
at least it's a work around.

Try completely removing the proxy, also, I think me calling ATT and having them remove the internet package, and put it back on had something to do with it...

Network icon not showing on my Tilt with 6.1

Hello! I've been lurking around these forums for a while. Off and on I would come and check out some stuff. Well I have a problem.
When I upgraded to the official AT&T rom from HTC's site, I noticed something strange. The network icon that tells you if you are in EDGE territory or 3G or GPRS or whatever...it shows basically I'm not connected to anything. It's a slight annoyance because I know the 6.0 rom showed I was in EDGE with an E. You guys know what I'm talking about? Any fixes? If someone already asked this question then I am sorry (hides). I couldn't think of what to search for.

*Flash Kick Bump*

Add the following Registry Key:
Code:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Taskbar\LegacyEdgeNotification
as a DWORD with the value (1).
Ta
Dave

Ty Dave! I shall download the appropriate regedit software for 6.1 and get it on!

Dave...that didn't work. I applied the key, soft reset the phone, nothing. anything else i could try?

Turbo Mach 5 said:
Dave...that didn't work. I applied the key, soft reset the phone, nothing. anything else i could try?
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That should work for Edge. Try LegacyGprsNotification as a Dword and Value 1 forr the GPRS Icon instead.
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Dave

Nope I wonder if PHM Registry Editor isn't really applying the key. It should...Let me try another reg edit.

Unfortunately that didn't work either )CeRegistryEditor(
AT&T couldn't have locked this down on their official 6.1...could they?
Hmm Daddy Might have to go ask a chef if we can't find a solution. Now I know that the network couldn't have screwed up on that particular day because my mother's Blackberry (yah I know, different) shows GPRS and I KNOW my phone should show EDGE/Gprs...
It can't be because I am using the same sim card as I had before (and not using the one that is branded AT&T 3G). Just trying to throw out some ideas

Turbo Mach 5 said:
Unfortunately that didn't work either )CeRegistryEditor(
AT&T couldn't have locked this down on their official 6.1...could they?
Hmm Daddy Might have to go ask a chef if we can't find a solution. Now I know that the network couldn't have screwed up on that particular day because my mother's Blackberry (yah I know, different) shows GPRS and I KNOW my phone should show EDGE/Gprs...
It can't be because I am using the same sim card as I had before (and not using the one that is branded AT&T 3G). Just trying to throw out some ideas
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I've cooked several ROMs based off of the Official AT&T 6.1 ROM, and I can verify that it does correctly display G, E, 3G, and H icons. What other software have you installed?

The only other software added:
Garmin Mobile XT
M:Metrics Mobile Panel
Opera 9.5 Beta
PHM RegEdit
mfrazzz Transformer Sliding Sound
DK no Ringtone limit
Customization Tools and Customization Customize_Tool
and the Cingular crud
think it could be one of those? I have verified it not even showing if I do a hard reset. Maybe my Tilt hates me hehhe like I siad I could live without it but it is annoying not being able to see if I'm in EDGE or GPRS (or 3G if and when I enter a 3G area)

Ok I tried Advanced Configuration Tool (or whatever it's called ) and while it does apply the registry setting, the rom won't take it still. Now I just thought about this:
When the official rom came out, I did download it that day (September think it was). Could they have slightly changed the binary since and I just never knew about it?
Another thing, you think reflashing it would at least allow me to edit the registry properly?