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Downgradeing HTC Wizard

Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot

It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..

Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.

mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...

Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..

Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).

mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!

Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..

Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan

A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works

stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe

Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway

I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)

Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2

HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....

Dr Puttingham said:
Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks

could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.

Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.

Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got

I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE

IPL/SPL 2.21 vs. IPL/SPL 2.26

Hi to everyone,
Does anybody know the differences between IPL/SPL 2.21 and 2.26?
As I read in the Wiki section IPL/SPL are the bootloaders of the phone, like the BIOS of our CPU's nada I dont want to mess with that!
Why I'm asking this?...
My PPC is an O2 XDA MiniS AKU2 IPL/SPL 2.21 and want to install Faria's ROM.
I will have to CID-UNLOCK first.
There are 2 threads of cid unlocking:
1) One for AKU2 PPC (call from here THREAD 1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
2) and other for those who has older rom (call from here THREAD 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I was going to follow the steps that are include in thread 1 wich recommends to downgrade your rom, cid unlock and then install your manufacturer ROM (mine has IPL/SPL 2.21).
But reading thread 2 I found that is recommendable to have IPL/SPL 2.26 to run cooked ROM's just like Faria's.
The author recommends to install T-Mobile ROM to have strong IPL/SPL 2.26.
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
The idea is to get IPL/SPL 2.26 and then flash Faria's ROM.
Sorry if it's a double post, but I really couldnt find the answer.
Thanks in advance,
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
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1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders.
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will. The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.

Zzan said:
1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders..
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>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will.
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>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
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>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
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a) good -- Just follow all the steps and you will be successful (make sure your phone is a G3 if you aren't using a pay to unlock website)
b) , c) you only need to flash one of these. Once you are unlocked it doesn't matter which one, they will all get you to a version that you can flash Faria's rom from. Most people recommend the T-Mobile rom as it has the latest bootloaders and is a good base to build from
c) You can do this at any time after you have successfully flashed a carrier rom.
polaco1977 said:
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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If you unlocked your phone properly with the method for your device type (G3 or G4) it will not hurt your phone to flash any ROM that is compatible with your phone version (G3's can flash most anything without issue, G4's can only flash certain ROMs)
polaco1977 said:
>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
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You're welcome

Tested
computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30

computer9cowboy said:
I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
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Where did you find it? I have downloaded it from the thread RADIO ROM 2.61.11
It´s been hosting by Rapishare and the file calls REAL_RADIO_2.61.11
Do you have another link where can I download it?
Can you send me a pm?
Paulo

a question about radios

is there anyway to "shelltools" flash my radio rom? I've been missing a lot of calls lately and it really is becoming inconvenient. I havent unlocked my phone, but i am running wm6 using shelltools (mfrazzz's stuff) and i was wondering do i even need to have my phone unlocked to flash my radio? i dont want to lose my warranty so thats why this matters to me. Any ideas guys?

You may get the official (in your case, T-Mobile, I guess) ROM to flash your phone with the full set of WM5 ROM (e.g. IPL, SPL, OS and Radio). As you are using the official ROM, you do not have to CID-unlock your phone prior flashing this official ROM. After that, you may then use shelltool to update/upgrade/flash the WM6 in, while the radio is untouched (e.g. still using the one you've flashed with the official ROM).

i thin i have done what you said already. Before i flashed mfrazzz's wm6 rom i flashed the latest tmobile rom, then i proceeded to flash the wm6 rom. I didnt use shelltools to flash the official tmobile rom obviosuly, but i did use shelltools to flash mrazzz's wm6 rom.
these are my things from what i'm using now:
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0

Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.

ur OS is wrong if ur running wm6...

2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..

Madcap180 said:
Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.
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can i just flash that right now without being unlocked? i'm in boston, does that matter? lol

Madcap180 said:
2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..
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oh, my bad then lol.
and yes u can change ur radio without being unlocked

ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it

There you go
jawnsixteen said:
ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it
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I have flashed my RADIO ONLY several times with no consequences for my CID LOCKED G4 Wizard, here´s the link for the RADIO ONLY
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Thread/T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radio_Only.zip

You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm

4irm said:
You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm
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No, we can´t flash a ROM with bootloader other than the one you have if you have a G4 CID locked device. Unless you use a RUU with no ID (see next paragraph) and the nb.nkf file lacks of IPL/SPL, such is the case of the Wizard Love which I use before to flash any other ROM with the Shell Tool.
Read post #2 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954
Read carefully where talks about Splash Screens and Splash Only RUU for G4, same procedure for splash screen applies to RADIO. This doesn´t work for OS, for OS you have to use Shell Tool.
Good luck!

Problems after Downgrade to Bottom ROM

Hi Everybody.
After i had flashed my T-Mob. Wizard to AKU 3.3 i had some problems (Battery problems, restarts while speaking). After the TMO Support tells me they couldnt help me(Downgrade to previous ROM impossible, Re-Flash too) i wanted to try WM6 ROM.
So i tried to downgrade with Bottom ROM but on 99% my phone restarts and RUU stops with error. After that the phone starts in tricolor mode and after a few seconds it starts again.
I tried to flash Bottom ROM, Wizard Loving ROM and AKU 3.3 but the Phone restarts again while processing. IPL 1.08 and SPL 3.08 is shown.
I know i'm a damn noob, but perhaps somebody could give me some tips.
Phone is (was) a G3 (Buyed 11/05)

Is it possible that my battery is empty? Like i told i had problems with battery life time after AKU 3.3. Before i tried to downgrade i have checked the battery status and it was 89%, but perhaps this was false.
Does the wizard charge the battery in bootloader mode?

Nopes ! it doesn't charge in bootloaders mode,it'll only charge with wall charger.Switch off the phone and try to charge with a 'Wall Charger' capable of giving out put of 1.00 amp.YES ! its very much possible that while trying to recover and flashing,the battery has drained out and lost the charge. Try to get the battery fully charged again to perform any action further.
Secondly,try to downgrade first to ipl/spl 2.xx and then to ipl/spl 1.xx.
download the official carrier's rom from its website and try to flash and recover to its default status and ipl/spl 2.xx,then, flash button's rom 1.05 to get ipl/spl 1.xx.Directly flashing Button's Rom 1.05 and trying to downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx from 3.08 creates such problems,try to downgrade gradually, 3.08...> 2.xx...> 1.xx.
Cheers!

Ok on Friday a friend of mine will give me his full charged battery.
What do you mean with wall charger? I tried to charge with normal charger and it seems to me that it doesn't charge my phone too. My normal charger (for power socket on the wall) has 1amp Output
After i upgraded to 3.08 it was impossible to downgrade to official 2.xx ROMs, thats why i tried to the Bottom ROM.
On Friday i will try the wizard_Love, Bottom and the xda_minis_launch with fully loaded battery.

where can we find 2.xx rom's???
i have the Tmobile MDA Vario 3.08

Nono01 said:
where can we find 2.xx rom's???
i have the Tmobile MDA Vario 3.08
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This is the GERMAN AKU 2.0 ROM, i think it is a 2.xx ROM, isnt it? Its the earliest ROM Update from T-Mob! http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/vario_aku2.0_05-2006.zip

hmmm, i dont know....can we get some info here please? so, the shadow and myself have IPL/SPL 3.08 and wee need 2.xx and 1.xx (if 1.xx is buttonROM then ok)

You can also download and try the T-mobile 2.26,as its also an official t-mobile Rom with 2.xx.
Cheers!

zabardast_1 said:
You can also download and try the T-mobile 2.26,as its also an official t-mobile Rom with 2.xx.
Cheers!
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You mean that one I've posted?

shadow2000 said:
You mean that one I've posted?
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Nopes, thats in German as you say,if if you want an English T-mobile 2.26,you can download from this link :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
Cheers!

zabardast_1 said:
Nopes, thats in German as you say,if if you want an English T-mobile 2.26,you can download from this link :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
Cheers!
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sorry, but the link you posted was in : G4 forum, is this official T-mobile rom 2.26 for G4, because i need G3

Nono01 said:
sorry, but the link you posted was in : G4 forum, is this official T-mobile rom 2.26 for G4, because i need G3
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YES!!!
Its an official T-mobile stock Rom, equally good for both devices ,G3 and G4.It contains ipl/spl for both,it'll only flash the appropriate ipl/spl when detected which device it is,ok
Cheers!

Congratulation, you have successfully bricked your device.
Lolz actually, congratulation you are not alone. I am in the same situation.

underneathurclothes said:
Congratulation, you have successfully bricked your device.
Lolz actually, congratulation you are not alone. I am in the same situation.
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what????????

Well hope you have managed to revive your wizard. In case you havnt, please try this help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963&page=12 by Drug_store.
This really brought my Wizard back to life. I owe Drug_store one.
Best luck

So i have tried to reflash with and new battery a everthing works fine. Now i have flashed back to official AKU 3.3 and i can enjoy my wizard again.

shadow2000 said:
So i have tried to reflash with and new battery a everthing works fine. Now i have flashed back to official AKU 3.3 and i can enjoy my wizard again.
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grrrrrrrr8 !
Glade to hear you recovered it back
Good luck!

WOW i am in the same boat but i cannot flash, apparently i didnt have my phone unlocked when i flashed so im SOL. No one has a fix for this unless i buy the unlock from IMEI and then I HAVE NO CHOICE but to give them a copy of my drivers license and i dont feel comfortable doing this so i dunno what im going to do.
BRAND NEW TMOBILE MDA FOR SALE never used except for flashing, Got it brand new from tmob a week ago and immediately attempted flashing!! haha

Lots of research done, nearly ready to start. Some questions...

Will be receiving a HTC TyTN II. It will be Orange branded and sim locked.
I understand the first thing will be to install Hard SPL.
1. Now, I read somewhere that HTC haven't released any official ROMs of their own with Windows Mobile 6.1. Why is it that the Shipped ROMs wiki page has them here?
2. Whether or not they are HTC's own 6.1 ROMs, there are three I'm willing to try. They are (and I'm just copying and pasting these from the Shipped ROMs wiki page):
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/1170540....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip​
These three seem to be "original" HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs. All are worldwide English. So what's the difference between each? Should I simply assume the one with the higher version number is the better one?

they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...

tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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Thanks for confirming for me. I can't check the e-Club yet as I will be getting the phone maybe tomorrow. Anyhow, I really just want the original (and latest if possible) HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. Which should I pick form the list in the original post. Is one of them the same as the current one on HTC's e-Club?

tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.

yardie.spike said:
As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
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Thanks. Yup, I found 3 that seem to be HTC originals. Don't know how up to date they are with HTC's e-Club but they should do. From the three I have found below, I'm assuming the higher version is the latest (3.28.405.0), but why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
Here are the 3 I found:
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/11705402...16.25_Ship.zip​
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.

yrsmart said:
why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
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Some users have better luck with older versions, or older radios. Newest isn't always better
yrsmart said:
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
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Appear to be different build versions an different radios, Some builds/radios work better for some users than others.
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Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
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Read the thread attached to them., it will tell you what comes with the rom and what doesn't
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I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
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Hope this helped in some way. The best way to find the best ROM/Radio is to try them all and see what suits you the best.

Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)

If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.

rlatarche said:
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
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I think we are referring to Security unlocking. This process ensures that you phone cannot become bricked by installing the latest radios from HTC that have extra security. Without security unlock you cannot downgrade these radios without a tool called FrankenKaiser.
I'd recommend Sec Unlock for every user, It can be re-locked later if need be.
Thanks
Dave

Yes but the Orange UK phones are radio locked too, which requires the phone to sim unlocked and HardSPL installed to (To prevent Bricking)

stuart-online said:
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.

yrsmart said:
Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
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You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?

yrsmart said:
Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
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Excellent, I will try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks.