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Hi.
I've had my Vario III for 2 months now, and I am not wholly satisfied with it. One of the main bug-bearers for me is that when I am texting, the phone normally takes a second or two to display the letters on screen. Because of this slowness, it sometimes struggles to pick up the odd letter, which means I have to scroll through the screen again and type again. This is frustrating, as it is now nearly impossible for me to send a quick text. I never had this problem on the original Vario.
At first I thought it might be because I have too many things loaded at once, but even when no programs are running it continues to lag.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
wellsy13 said:
Hi.
I've had my Vario III for 2 months now, and I am not wholly satisfied with it. One of the main bug-bearers for me is that when I am texting, the phone normally takes a second or two to display the letters on screen. Because of this slowness, it sometimes struggles to pick up the odd letter, which means I have to scroll through the screen again and type again. This is frustrating, as it is now nearly impossible for me to send a quick text. I never had this problem on the original Vario.
At first I thought it might be because I have too many things loaded at once, but even when no programs are running it continues to lag.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
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yes there is a slight lag. Probably more on the stock roms then for example Dutty's rom i am using its not much. The kaiser unfortunately suffers from some graphics issues which causes these things. We are all hoping that this will be fixed sometime in the near future.
I would recommend that you should try flashing one of the cooked roms and see how that works for you.
What do you mean by "flashing one of the cooked roms?"
(Sorry, I'm not very good with PDAs)
wellsy13 said:
What do you mean by "flashing one of the cooked roms?"
(Sorry, I'm not very good with PDAs)
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have a look at this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you will learn what i am referring to.
What's weird is I have been reading these threads about slow text display for a while on several different occassions. The weird part is...I don't have this issue on my Kaiser and I do a lot of texting. At first, I wondered if it was because I was inputting slower than others...I don't think that is it as I have had a hardware keyboard on various devices for the past 3 years and my typing speed is rather quick. Granted, I am not overloaded with programs yet but have yet to notice any text display lag. Guess I should be happy about that but it's a bit curious
Anyway, in response to the original posters question, the fix on older devices with les memory, etc was to turn off all auto-help options (auto complete, etc). This helps because the device does not have to browse the DB and make sugestions while trying to keep up with you. Granted, it is not the end all be all fix but it should help until we get some updated drivers from HTC.
recently I installed Dutty's Diamond ROM and overall it works flawlessly.
My problem is that almost every day, sometimes few times a day my sound profile gets changed (start-settings-sounds and notofications-notification tab)
I set up almost everything to have sound and vibrations, but something happens and everything gets unchecked...
so after a while I can't hear nor see a messages, reminders, MMSes, just nothing.
I have to go to settings and redo everything.
does anyone have idea what may cause that??
please help
thanks a lot
Kamel
**This is not intended as a flame**
This is a known issue with known solutions. Post your question in the thread for your ROM, Dutty's Diamond in this case.
thank you!
I already have searched but I'll try harder
Hint: Are you running Opera 9.5?
well this is happening to me as well with the ATT stock rom from ATT..
ITS GETTING ME VERY AGGRAVATED
so which version(s) of Opera should i have on this phone so that this doesnt happen.
I downloaded the one off of the Opera site a few weeks ago.
Hello,
I now own my Kaiser for about one year (or a little less). But I'm still not satisfied about the overall speed of the device. I'm not talking about reading videos or playing games, just about "normal" use of the Kaiser.
For exemple, opening the HTC phone application (dial pad) takes around 3 seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !
Another exemple is going to landscape mode which takes 4 seconds ! And when it is in landscape, my Kaiser is like freezed for about 2 other seconds before I can use it.
A 3rd exemple, when answering calls: my Kaiser rings, I press the green button to answer, but it takes around 2-3 seconds before it does really answer. In the mean time, I sometimes loose my call, and this is really frustrating again !
I know I'm only talking about seconds, but I use my Kaiser a lot in a day, and these seconds become minutes ! And when I need to use my Kaiser quickly, these seconds appear much longer than they really are.
My ROM is the original HTC 6.1 ROM. My Kaiser is as light as possible (no Manilla 2D !), but it does not seem to be enough for my Kaiser to be fast.
I tried some cooked ROMS, but from what I experienced the HTC 6.1 is the faster. I also tweaked my Kaiser with all the informations I could find on this great forum (and KaiserTweak)
I would really enjoy an overclocker utility but it does not exist.
So, about you, are you satisfied with your Kaiser speed ?
Isn't there days where you would throw it against a wall because of these anoying lags ?
Thanks !
If this damn thing eats another microSD card I AM going to throw it against the wall. I'm getting tired of loosing my crap and having to re-do everything.
what about the speed of your ka
iser : is it ok for you ?
No complaints about the "speedyness" of the tilt after flashing to a good ROM. If another one fails I'm sending it back and demanding an upgrade to a Fuze tho.
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
Dear,
Same problems as yours... Using same rom from HTC !
Very slow phone for each task i need
Boring phone when hang-up or dialing, boring when using tt6 and now tt7 (too slow when driving in little streets, and sometimes truncating voices messages), and more generally, very very slow (and i do not speak about camera).
Sure, this version is really a big bug
Comparing to other kind of phones, even cheaper models runs better (camera better and faster, gps fix faster, gps available even in flight mode.
Usually, when opening keyboard, applications hangs due to the screen rotation, and become available a long time after
Definitively, a real diseapointing device.
I'm now waiting for the renewal of my phone contract to change for something better (sure that is not difficult to find)
Regards,
Laurent
I highly recommend flashing a custom rom.
The rom chef's have done a fantastic job tweaking them to run much faster than the stock roms. Try on and you'll never look back.
I'm currently using the Nov 15'th Hyperdragon Rom and I have virtually no complaints about the speed of the rom for day to day activities. M2D runs very smoothly and is much more friendly to your fingers than any of the stock roms I've used.
aagil001 said:
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
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Thanks a lot ! i did the hard reset followed by the soft reset , then I restored my data : now my Kaiser goes faster ! thanks again !
I have the same issue, not that the kaiser is really slow, but when I compare it with a Wizard (both have custom roms) the Wizard does things a lot faster, like opening start menu, scrolling isn't laggy, change tabs is fast. No matter what rom I use on my kaiser, I can't get to the use speed of the Wizard. Maybe it is because I install programs on the SD instead of the phone itself?
Nothing to Compare to
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
wasilvers said:
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
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Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
I noticed a marked improvement since I use some of the SKTools utilities like:
- Optimize! http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
- FreeUP RAM Service http://s-k-tools.com/?m_freeuprams.html
- Registry optimization http://s-k-tools.com/?/sktools/m_regopt.html
It has many other features and you can download a trial. It's really worth a try.
dear all,
how can you say that the kaiser isnot slow ?
I use PIE to read this forum, this thread takes 30 to 40 sec to load for 470 kB, while it takes few seconds to dowload bigger files !
I only use pie,tt7 and outlook sync for contacts and appointments.
I also tested 3 roms and tried to tweak some settings, without getting a normal speed.
kaiser is definitively a slow computer with a phone.
basic phones are more responsives than kaiser on many bundled applications.
I do think that kaiser has a lake of something... Maybe some drivers are missing, because if you look at the internal chipset used inside the kaiser, it should very very more powerfull
Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
Please enlighten me, because I hate this. I have to push the button multiples times to disconnect. I have SK Tools as well. It has many good features, unfortunately some of the things it recommends tweaking I have idea what those things are for. I need the cheat sheet for invalid registry entries and values.
I do experience what you describe and I've tried many different ROMs, right now I'm using Garmin.Dk 8 without Manila2d and all the "speed fixes" available.
It's just like that, it has Windows...
But on the other hand, I like that, because it makes it very customizable.
Depends on what you value most.
dizzy33 said:
Hello,
seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !Thanks !
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
moosic said:
I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
dear Spaul,
Windows is not the problem... Other htc phones have Windows and are fast. i.e. TYTN I is faster !
Problem is software, maybe drivers or hardware layer
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
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He has to keep up because he realizes the other 99% of the WM functionality is missing on his new phone and he'll want to come back.
Same thing here
Yeah I experience exactly the same things with mine. I'm not going out the custom ROM path, since it's a company phone. After having tried all sorts of things, I've kind of just accepted its slowness.
But one thing is for sure. After using first the s710, and the the tytn-ii, I'm 95% sure that my next phone is not going to be a HTC, unless I see some very convincing real life demo of the device.
I have a HTC TynTynII or whatever it's called.
I was forced to buy one to keep "updated", with EDGE data capacity, but never wanted to buy a small screen device (this was before the HTC Touch HD was introduced), as I had been using my XDAII 's and forced to use my backups, XDAIIs's...
Now, as the XDAIIs's had pissed me off with various problems and lack of proper speakerphone, these are the deficiencies I find of Kaiser:
1. Speakerphone *totally* unusable (the XDAIIs was bad, but this is *hopeless*)
2. Cannot forward SMS's using EM (WM6.0 or 6.1 limitation).
3. Of course, HTC wouldn't let me upgrade to the latest 6.1 at the time I had bought the device, using my serial number of the unit purchased in Singapore. (Of course, we can use the cooked ROM's, but why??)
4. Touch sensitivity totally sucks with a screen protector, even though I have used these with my XDAII and XDAIIs units. When pressing hard sometimes, it elicits *no* reactions whatsoever, then opens up something else...
5. OS is totally "whacked-out" as compared to WM2003 - I have no idea why they have gone insane with these previously only used menus for the smartphones! One requires more menu/key-presses to execute mail retrieval, etc., as compared to WM2003!
6. Cannot use fingertips for typing entries, nor to close apps. (screen size issue)
7. Processor seems to be a power-saving one, that delays action, as compared to the one in the XDAII, which kicks a**, as compared to the XDAIIs or Kaiser.
8. No blinking SMS light (even though this was selected in the options) when receiving SMS - also no vibration noted.
9. OS is more buggy than WM2003 - sometimes completely stopping the phone, requiring the reboot of the device.
10. To be continued...
I'll update the list with more of my findings above, but welcome feedback....
Sounds awful. You should just send it to me. I'll give it a good home.
1. Speakerphone *totally* unusable (the XDAIIs was bad, but this is *hopeless*)
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I find it works out just fine.
2. Cannot forward SMS's using EM (WM6.0 or 6.1 limitation).
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On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
3. Of course, HTC wouldn't let me upgrade to the latest 6.1 at the time I had bought the device, using my serial number of the unit purchased in Singapore. (Of course, we can use the cooked ROM's, but why??)
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There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
4. Touch sensitivity totally sucks with a screen protector, even though I have used these with my XDAII and XDAIIs units. When pressing hard sometimes, it elicits *no* reactions whatsoever, then opens up something else...
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You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
5. OS is totally "whacked-out" as compared to WM2003 - I have no idea why they have gone insane with these previously only used menus for the smartphones! One requires more menu/key-presses to execute mail retrieval, etc., as compared to WM2003!
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Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
6. Cannot use fingertips for typing entries, nor to close apps. (screen size issue)
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7. Processor seems to be a power-saving one, that delays action, as compared to the one in the XDAII, which kicks a**, as compared to the XDAIIs or Kaiser.
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Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
8. No blinking SMS light (even though this was selected in the options) when receiving SMS - also no vibration noted.
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Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
9. OS is more buggy than WM2003 - sometimes completely stopping the phone, requiring the reboot of the device.
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FLASH THE ROM!
10. To be continued...
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tdusen said:
Sounds awful. You should just send it to me. I'll give it a good home.
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I'll trade it for a *mint* XDAII & a *mint* XDAIIi!
himalayasplaya said:
On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
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EM = e-mail...don't know if you guys on the board here use PM = Personal Message/Mail, but it's the logical (and should be the more often used) abbreviation.
himalayasplaya said:
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
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Thanks - after I reviewed my post, I went to the HTC site, and found that they offered this - will flash after doing a backup...
himalayasplaya said:
You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
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I'm not sure I did this again on my last trip where I had to take this very quickly, but I just did it now - thanks!
himalayasplaya said:
Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
Vito Technologies Zoomboard
Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
FLASH THE ROM!
FLASH THE ROM!!
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Noted - will do and report - thanks a lot!
You'd think so but improved stability doesn't come in the official WM 6.1 upgrades.
himalayasplaya said:
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
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You'd think that'd be the case but in my experience running numerous official Kaiser ROMs, the one I have now far surpasses any WM 6.1 official ROM for stability. No broken GPS problems, no screen flashes coming out of powersaving mode, no unwanted pauses out of the blue. Yes it's slightly slower eg in redrawing the screen from portrait to landscape and back again and during boot it takes longer, but it's far more stable! Flashing to the Official WM 6.1 ROM would be like jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire so the o/p needs to consider this!
Flying Kiwi said:
You'd think that'd be the case but in my experience running numerous official Kaiser ROMs, the one I have now far surpasses any WM 6.1 official ROM for stability. No broken GPS problems, no screen flashes coming out of powersaving mode, no unwanted pauses out of the blue. Yes it's slightly slower eg in redrawing the screen from portrait to landscape and back again and during boot it takes longer, but it's far more stable! Flashing to the Official WM 6.1 ROM would be like jumping out of the frying pan, into the fire so the o/p needs to consider this!
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Flying Kiwi, I gather you are running a 6.0 ROM?
Are you on FT, btw?
I want my XDAII (both of them) back...maybe I'll buy a used one - problem is that it doesn't support EDGE or higher data, but in India (where I spend most of my time) it makes no difference - they don't give you the speed anyway!
One gets faster GPRS data in Singapore (StarHub) than on any Indian GSM carrier with EDGE!
Yeah, HSDPA, Edge, GPRS, it all boils down to how much your ISP allocating the bandwidth from the base station to it's internet gwy. No point having HSDPA if the base station is linked to their gwy with 128kbps line.
However, most of your complain about Kaiser, I don't find it for me. Perhaps you get a 'lemon'? My touchscreen is great, even the finger close (the corner task manager) works better than my previous Sony Ericsson M600.
himalayasplaya said:
I find it works out just fine.
On WM 6.1 you can forward SMS. I use SMS-chat and it forwards just fine. I don't know what EM is, soo I can't help you there.
There is a stock 6.1 rom out now, and the cooked ROMs have been around for some time as well. Go for it, 6.1 is more stable and faster than 6.0 was.
You have to recalibrate the screen to touch sensitivity after you put the screen protector on. Settings>System>Screen> Align Screen
Get a better program thats why WM is made to be customizable!
Vito Technologies Zoomboard
Upgrade to 6.1 and you wont see the delay. WM6.0 was slow as dirt. I'm running on the stock rom and its fast!
Go to settings>personal>sounds & notifications>notifications. Then under event: select Messaging: New Text Message. Then check the "flash light" option.
FLASH THE ROM!
FLASH THE ROM!!
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Yeah, everything he said. I've been using mine for over a year and I don't really have any complaints at all. It's my best friend. SMS, EMAIL etc all work great and I can do EVERYTHING with my chubby sausage like fingers.
IMHO
I think you should learn to flash roms, I was not happy with my kaiser when I first got it but I started reading more and found how to flash roms and now I love it! find a more finger friendly rom and use it! Hope this helps if not send me the kaiser and I'll give him a good home!
I agree Rpearly1, I was so pissed at my tilt at first because the stock AT&T rom sucked ass. I removed the bloatware and it still sucked ass. I left it that way for about 6 months because I was too scared to brick my phone, but the whole flashing process is remarkably simple, I mean a complete novice who barely knows a computer could do it as long as they read around a bit and follow the directions. Now I'm a flashaholic.
superflyboy said:
Flying Kiwi, I gather you are running a 6.0 ROM?
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Yes, an original HTC one after reverting.
Are you on FT, btw?
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If FT = Full Time then yes my phone is usually on all day but I sometimes power it off during the working day and especially in the evening when I reboot it - not because of any problems, just that in my experience with computers, they often work best if rebooted from time to time.
anagarika said:
Yeah, HSDPA, Edge, GPRS, it all boils down to how much your ISP allocating the bandwidth from the base station to it's internet gwy. No point having HSDPA if the base station is linked to their gwy with 128kbps line.
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yep - agree.
anagarika said:
However, most of your complain about Kaiser, I don't find it for me. Perhaps you get a 'lemon'? My touchscreen is great, even the finger close (the corner task manager) works better than my previous Sony Ericsson M600.
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ChumleyEX said:
Yeah, everything he said. I've been using mine for over a year and I don't really have any complaints at all. It's my best friend. SMS, EMAIL etc all work great and I can do EVERYTHING with my chubby sausage like fingers.
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Are you guys using a screen protector?
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Yes, an original HTC one after reverting.
If FT = Full Time then yes my phone is usually on all day but I sometimes power it off during the working day and especially in the evening when I reboot it - not because of any problems, just that in my experience with computers, they often work best if rebooted from time to time.
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FT=FlyerTalk, for FlyingKiwi!
No I'm not using a screen protector, but that isn't part of the phone and it's not something you can consider a problem with the phone. IMO
ChumleyEX said:
No I'm not using a screen protector, but that isn't part of the phone and it's not something you can consider a problem with the phone. IMO
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Maybe not - sometimes I have to press really hard...could be the delay of the OS not reacting then...
Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)
if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you
tharighteous said:
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
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+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel
By default, there's a 3 second delay when you hang up the phone. You can reduce this or turn it off via registry or one of several programs like "HTCPedia HD Settings Tool"
Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith
i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS
tharighteous said:
Hi all,
I flashed my Blackstone round about 100time since I get it last year.
Duty,Miri,kwbr,energy,xanny and so on.....even some not so public.
I found not even one which works bugfree.
In most case the phone function is slow.
Did nobody else got this problem ?
Is there one rom which works fast and without the slow phone function ?
what i mean is :
If you start a call and drop it....the phone takes seconds until it drops the call ...
I mean , its a phone...or isnt it ?
This is no feature. This is the most common basic funtionality which has to work....
So can someone tell me a working rom ?
Cheers
Alex
(my favorite is KWBRs 3.4.x with manila 2.1 atm)
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You got the answer already. simply NO.
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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+ 1 on this
No roms are completely bug free as we are all using ported versions of wm6.5 as it hasn't been released for the HD, and never will.
Cooks are doing the best they can with the materials on offer. The latest roms (wm6.5, manila 2.5+) will always be more sluggish than manila 2.1, so why not try one of those. Plenty of threads already exist discussing this
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I've reopened thread by OP request
touchhdizzel said:
+1 on that. by now i am already used to that, but this is something i used to be annoyed about from the beginning. when i end a call i takes way too long!
since it is a phone the phone function should be working fast and reliable (sometimes i cant end a call at all/it takes around 1 minute). isnt there anyway to accelerate the phone function?
hdizzel
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yeah , this is my main problem !
fireedo said:
if you feel kwbr ROM than stick with it...different people have different experience so the ultimate question about "Which ROM is the BEST???" can only solve and answered by the user it self
just try and try until you feel satisfied or if you feel not one ROMs here can satisfied you than maybe "stock ROM" is the best for you
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no its not about "which ROM is the best " !
its about a main issue in ALL roms !
Maybe I would have another favorite if main phone function wouldnt be buddy
And as you see I am not the only one...who ich at first interested in this.
All the additional options of the different Roms are quiete cool...
One better than another. But at least the whole ROM is nothing without the basic option.
And its a phone, no netbook, no notebook......
skulk3r said:
i think it's more of a PDA than a phone
also, remember that ROM chefs focus on different parts of the ROM, making different things faster due to personal preferences. Also remember that there are limitations to Windows Mobile, making it a woeful user experience. Hopefully WM 7 will fix a lot of that - but if you can't put up with these limitations, i'd suggest switching to Android, iPhone, Symbian or WebOS
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pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?
tsalta said:
In Advanced Config Tool you can remove the delay there is for example end call delay around 1500ms so you wrote 0 and the delay is gone.. i always do that no matter what ROM i use and this work for me
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thanks for you answer.
but 1500is NOT what we are talking about !
maybe its a step to the right direction.
I am talking about you never can say if your HD is lucky to end a call.
its a mess.
there is no excuse for this....wheter from HTC nor from MS.
I remember a phone with a dialplate.....about 20 years ago.
As I wanted to stop a call - it did ! magic? I dont believe !
Is there no option to priorize this "phone task" ?
ss.sreejith said:
Hi Guys,
I have also flashed many on my Blackstone and i agree with you guys that most of the ROM's are sluggish !!!
But recently i have installed "[ROM] [WWE, GER] [16.01.10] BlackDragon 1.9 Speed King (Manila 2.5, WM 6.5)" .. this one works like a charm ... trust me its way better than the others and its fast too ... Not as fast as the stock one though ... but you still like the difference ...
Download the English one
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609382
Cheers
Sreejith
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THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least
mcdull said:
You got the answer already. simply NO.
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((((((((
dont hope your right, but i think you are right at least.
not a problem of the cooker....just the normale micro**** as all the time.
If I look onto the time I spend for my cellphone ...ohoh...
other people educate a child in this time.
its simply a mess.
tharighteous said:
pda, phone.....however.
who cares about how it is called ? I think nobody.
What I bought is a cellphone at first.
With many other options......which are working fine.
A PC, notebook, netbook I got at least.
But how can it be that the very first option to call/be reachable is buggy?
Please remember...we dont talking about a 50$ cell !
There are 3 digits !
Last year, as I get it I payed 600€...
Further you day that one focus this option to be faster...someone else speeds up another app....
ahm...sorry that I dont understand why notbody picks up the main task in order to get a working cellphone.
And you say WinX will fix. Sounds like the same **** Microsoft told us as the made the roll out of Win98, SE , ME, XP. Vista and so on.
I cannot hear this anymore...sorry.
NOBODY is interested in NO-WORKING SOLUTIONS.
Look at the iPhone. Working. No problem.Happy users.
Is there no way to priorise the "phone-task"?
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I totally agree with you, but you'r wrong. If you want a working phone, try STOCK ROM, but don't complaint about cooked ROMs, especially if every master wants the hi-end/last version. All those ROMs are beta...
tharighteous said:
THANKS FOR THIS HINT !
kwbr was my fav...until today !
Blackdragon is as good as you say !
Found only the problem, that the bluetooth adress is not show @settings.
further here at xda-dev the cooker of this rom is answering quiet fast to user-problems as you can see. offering cabs to fix issues.
I like it until now at least
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Tommorow I recieve my HD. Will try this rom first! Thanks for this tip!
Hi,
i also switched back to manila 2.1 in topix rom. great roms! no bugs, very good performance. but why no manila 2.5?
as i read htc has released a win6.5 rom with manila 2.5 for the diamond 2. diamond 2 and blackstone have almost the same hardware. and i guess that a officially released rom from htc cant be that laggy. so it should be possible to produce a rom like this for the blackstone. it doesnt have to have the newest packages.
would be highly appreciated if one of the chefs could look into a fix to prioritize the phone task.
flashing blackdragon now. thx for the hint.
hdizzel
btw: still waiting for a landscape only rom. does anyone know if something like this has been released by one of our dear chefs??
update: blackdragon fast but topix faster (manila2.1) as expected
Hello guys ,
This is my first offiicial post here at XDA and my first hands on experience with a touch HD.
I spent a lot of time reading the wiki and the rest of the forum to try and understand the fone hardware and the software. I've been trying to install basic applications to see if it betters the performance according to my needs.
Now , before i decided to buy the touch HD.. i did a lot of research myself and i narrowed it down to two options . Either the touch pro 2 or the HD. And i decided to go for the HD because I did not like the slide out keyboard and I simply love the HD design.
Now my question is , Although both the touch pro 2 and the HD are similar in terms of hardware is there any option where I could flash the touch pro 2 ROM to the HD ?
I was playing around with my friends touch pro 2 today and I felt for a second that I should have bought the touch pro2 because of the amazing speed at which the touch flo 3D works on that. [ oh btw ,it was a touch pro 2 sprint version ]
I just need the same ROM in my HD and I will be very happy
Is this possible ? If not , any suggestions for a particular ROM that would get me very close to the same experience I had with the touch pro 2 ?
just a few things
To comment on the last question, I would like to say that a friend of mine just got the Touch Pro 2 from Verizon and we have tried 4 or 5 different custom ROMs on it. I noticed that his touch pro 2 did seem to perform slightly better than my Touch HD. It was true for pretty much all the ROMs that we tried, so I don't think you going to find any satisfaction from a Touch Pro 2 ROM on your HD, and rightfully so because their not intended for the HD because of radios and landscape keyboards and proximity sensors and speaker phone capabilities, TV-OUT option on the Touch Pro 2 (not available for the HD) etc, etc, etc. They aren't the same phone and they don't get the same ROMs.
To improve performance on the few short things that were mentioned at the beginning of this thread, do try the registry hack to remove the delay for end call, it helped me. It also helped me to remove the dialer's key tone. This really did improve dialing speed because I am a speed dialer, its very important to me, the key tone slows it down and I could imagine that the vibration feedback (vibration on touch dial and keyboard and other actions) also slows the operation of the device. I have noticed because the vibration feedback does not feel tactile to me, turning it off completely helped me to regain some of the speed that I felt was missing. Also I have tried installing a more legacy dialer on top of the original ROM dialer, that also improved the performance of the phone feature. Do yourself a favor and try those things and make sure you address the serious problem of the hold button being pressed while holding the phone to your face, too bad the Touch HD didn't come with a proximity sensor like the Touch Pro 2 does! Keep flashing bros, this is half the fun!