is there any way i can make my tilt phone to get a better stronger Signal Strength? i think i heard something about radios? This is all i want and need.
It's possible that a radio can help. Searching the forum for various reports on the different radios is recommended.
You may want to consider that your bars will always fluctuate but the important thing is that you have service. So if I have service in an area and have 2 bars, I will most likely not realize a difference if I had 4. Try looking in teh Kaiser forum under different radios and read what each one does. Even though they have a few for Kaiser, you should not use them unless you know which rom you have.
So how do i install this radio rom? is there a cab version
There is a whole guide on the wiki that you should check out. Once you have Hard SPL installed and your phone unlocked, it is a peice of cake.
ahhh this sound too complicated
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I was looking at the stickies and it showed all different types of radios. Some say WWE and others say UK. Now I was looking at people's signatures and some have the UK with the ROM I use. Does that mean it only works in the UK? I live in Hawaii and yes we are part of the U.S. as the 50th State and no we do not live in grass shacks and yes we have electricity and Internet and no I'm not Hawaiian and yes i get asked these questions all the time. anyways I have Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19199 ROM and I was thinking of going with 1.64.08.21 because of the review. I couldn't find on Dutty's 5.2.19199 thread which radios are compatible. I don't have any problems with sound but I wanted to see if it will help with my signal.
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I was looking at the stickies and it showed all different types of radios. Some say WWE and others say UK. Now I was looking at people's signatures and some have the UK with the ROM I use. Does that mean it only works in the UK? I live in Hawaii and yes we are part of the U.S. as the 50th State and no we do not live in grass shacks and yes we have electricity and Internet and no I'm not Hawaiian and yes i get asked these questions all the time. anyways I have Dutty's WM6.1 5.2.19199 ROM and I was thinking of going with 1.64.08.21 because of the review. I couldn't find on Dutty's 5.2.19199 thread which radios are compatible. I don't have any problems with sound but I wanted to see if it will help with my signal.
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You can flash just about any radio for Win 6.1 except 1, check the first 2 post of Dutty's post where he posted the rom and it should give you all the information you need.
just make sure u flash a 6.1 compatible radio...as for signal u just have to try to see which one is best for ur location or ask if theres any other ppl in ur area
1.64.08.21 is a good radio and will work just about anywhere in the world. The reason so many people have different radios is because in different places in the world will get different results from radio to radio. I suggest you experiment with different radios and see which ones give you better battery life and signal and data and GPS lock. I personally like the Niki radio 1.58.16.27.
Thanks guys. I had a hard time figuring what Radio meant. I first i thought it was for listening to songs.
what would be good is a master list of the geographical areas and the Radio versions that people tried in that area. then have it show the signal strength results. that way noobies and people moving to new locations can just pick instead of trying over 10+ different versions. hmm, maybe that's too much work.
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Thanks guys. I had a hard time figuring what Radio meant. I first i thought it was for listening to songs.
what would be good is a master list of the geographical areas and the Radio versions that people tried in that area. then have it show the signal strength results. that way noobies and people moving to new locations can just pick instead of trying over 10+ different versions. hmm, maybe that's too much work.
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Yeah. That would be nice but, yes, way to much work. You won't find a huge difference between most radios. The most common radios used are the best. I think you're thinking a little too much in to it. My radio is my favorite. I use a radio for a day and compare to the day before with the last radio and then try the next. I've gone through 10-12 radios and most have very little difference. Just make sure you use one that is compatable with wm6.1 which is what I think you have.
That I will have to disagree with... I have not been able to find a WM6.1 radio that will send MMS correctly in my area yet!!!
I am in South Florida, West Palm Beach to be exact. I have HSPDA and still no WM6.1 radio works with MMS here. I send an MMS and it takes over 3 hours to get to the recipient.....
Therefore, I am stuck with WM6.0 as of right now....
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That I will have to disagree with... I have not been able to find a WM6.1 radio that will send MMS correctly in my area yet!!!
I am in South Florida, West Palm Beach to be exact. I have HSPDA and still no WM6.1 radio works with MMS here. I send an MMS and it takes over 3 hours to get to the recipient.....
Therefore, I am stuck with WM6.0 as of right now....
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It's not the radio that's causing your MMS problems. It's the ROM. Or more accurately, your MMS client. The MMS client sends and receives your MMS. You can find out what MMS software you have by going into messages then MMS. Press menu, then go to "MMS Options." Under 'about' you'll find the version number and make. It's probably arcsoft. If you have version 5, your problem may then lie in network or MMS settings. Some wm6.1 ROMS do not have a good MMS program. Dutty's last few releases have had a great one. I suggest you try Dutty's latest. Make sure you use the connection setup to automatically set-up your MMS and data settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383638
I am trying Dutty's Latest rom 6.1 based on the ATT 19209 version. There is still a delay .
I didn't think it was the radio as I am able to make calls, and send regular text messages just have a long delay receiving and sending MMS ????
I am running the base at&t rom 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09. are there any other radios I can install to test for improvement of my signal or do I have to flash another rom version?
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I am running the base at&t rom 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09. are there any other radios I can install to test for improvement of my signal or do I have to flash another rom version?
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This is a bit more complicated AT$T Stock ROMs requires Special AT$T Radios. They are listed as such in the Radio Information Thread.
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This is a bit more complicated AT$T Stock ROMs requires Special AT$T Radios. They are listed as such in the Radio Information Thread.
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That and you'll need Hard-SPL to flash a non at&t radio and rom. Search the forums for it and do a lot of researching before your first flash. A lot of researching. Flashing is very easy but you'll run into problems and have many questions if you don't research.
Read the Wiki completely and once you get near the bottom of the wiki you'll find "Available Extracted Radio Upgrade Only " which will contain many of the available radios. Find one that's at&t and download it.
Here is the Kaiser Wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
That happened to me until i switched to duttys rom and inex radio. now that problem is solved for me.
SOMEONE SET UP US TEH ROM!!!
WE NO GET SIGNAL!
If you could tell us if you ahve flashed to a customer ROM or if you have a Stock ROM, the one that came with the phone. Same with the Radio. We could help you better. Thank You.
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Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
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ok its a AT&T TILT
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM DATE: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
Same here
I'm now with the updated AT&T ROM, but wit hthe same issues.
This also happened with the previous ROM.
At home I'm connected to my PC via USB. For some reason, in this location I have virtually no reception (ie I have 1 or 0 bars).
And many times, if I don't go in/out of Flight Mode after I leave home, I find myself without reception even for a couple of hours (ie the Tilt doesn't "recover" on its own).
I HardSPL'd my Tilt and tried installing the French radio in order to improve reception (other users in my location said it worked well for them), but found it was incompatible, and after a very stressful day (I was certain I'd bricked my Tilt) - was able to enter bootloader mode and restore the original radio.
At the moment I don't want to flash a Kaiser radio, and I want to wait until AT&T release their own WM6.1 ROM (I don't want to use a cooked one).
Further (I wrote about this in another post) - my GPS loses signal quite often, even under clear skies. I understand that this is another aspect of the radio drivers.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
I'd rather think it's a hardware problem. RMA...
Difficult....
I live abroad, and so it'll cost a small fortune in shipping charges, etc.
Not to mention import taxes, etc, if the IMEI is changed (eg if the device is replaced).
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
is this NIKI radio compatible with the standard AT&T ROM?
I have 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09.
Or is it compatible only with WM6.1?
Thank you.
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I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
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ok, you say it improves with niki radio!?
so I have never done this before, is it hard!? were can I find a GOOD tutorial or guide or troubleshooter in case i get STUCK??
Other thing, here were I live, i think ATT from the quad band, use 850 almost all the time, anything to say about that? it doenst matter?, maybe its a stupid Q...
But the Niki radio requires WM6.1, doesn't it?
redbandana,
Did you install the Niki radio on a WM6 Tilt?
And what ROM do you have? (ie the original AT&T ROM, the updated AT&T ROM or a cooked one?)
Please help. I have been with o2 now for a while and I’ve never had a reception problem this bad… I’ve brought my friends Kaiser. On T-mobile he had great reception around where we live and work but since I have unlocked it I have never had a satisfactory level of reception. I have tried lots of SPL’s, ROMs and radio ROMs (including the stock o2 one) and they are all as bad as each other, give or take. The number of bars of reception varies across the range but they all have the same massive dead spots with no radio reception at all. I have tried other phones i.e. nokia’s, samsung’s and a Hermes I had none of these dead spots.
Now here is where I may betray my noob status, I was beginning to believe it was something wrong with the o2 settings in general because it is like the phone is only picking up reception from certain cell towers (maybe o2 ones?!?) and ignoring others, is this possible or am I just grabbing at straws? Then I discovered a most promising the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-335074.html which is full of people with 3G faults perhaps my problem is linked to the 3G mast nearby and so in fact my phone only works where there is a poor signal and no 3G which forces it to use GSM. I have tried to prove this but my current ROM Mobile Vista 4.00 SeaDragon 5.2.21109 seems unable to remember the GSM setting, the phone locks up and require a soft reset. I am sure it can’t be a hardware fault as suggested in the above thread because my friend had the phone working flawlessly.
Any suggestions as to what I can do. I’ve been at this problem for over 4 months now and am close to admitting defeat, I believe the problem may be beyond me...
I believe you should be posting at General Kaiser Forum instead
My strongest suggestion is go back to factory (OEM) including the SPL and ROM, so you can be sure it's not ROM/Radio. If that's ok, then you need to carefully match the Radio/SPL/ROM. Some radio is only for WM6.0 (check the Radio FAQ, included on the sticky FAQ thread).
Ok I have made a bit of progress but would like some advice. Now that I am aware of the 3G fault I have been keeping an eye on my signal and each time just before the signal dies the phone is trying to switch from gsm/edge to 3G/HSPDA. I have flashed my rom again this time with a reconstructed T-mobile UK rom that I found through the revert to original rom and SPl for waranty returns (Thanks a lot jcespi2005). I now have a 3G/H signal (phew atleast my phones not bricked) but am unable to make or receive calls, I assume this is because it is set up to use T-mobile settings not O2. Is there a cab out there that would let me change the settings for the OEM operator rom so I can keep this working rom. Failing that does anyone have any suggestions for a cooked rom for O2?
Hi all
Ive asked this in the orange thread and also searched for this, but cant seem to get a clear yes/no answer, hope someone can help.
I, for example, am on Orange, and use an Orange SIM.
The question is this, and a noobish one I quess: Being on Orange -- does having the official Orange Rom installed on my phone ofer me any advantages in terms of gprs/edge/ internet browsing speed? In other words, will my internet connection be faster if i have the official rom from Orange, or is this quite irrelevant, compared to (the much prefered) Roms on here? Is the official network Rom somehow "optimized" so that the internet speed is improved on a phone that runs on the same network? Orange Rom on Orange network, in this case?
Hope I make myself clear...Any clarification much appreciated! Thanks for everything...again!
Official carrier ROMs has almost got nothing to do in improving your signal strength or connection speeds. If you are concerned about that, you can different radio ROMs. But on the safe side, I suggest that if you are not having any problems, don't change anything.
Regardless of what ROM you use here, as long as you are not changing your radio. You wont have any significant change with your network connection. Fyi, as far as I know, there are 2 ROMs to use to flash a specific part in our phones. The PDA (Operating System) and radio (Phone).
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Official carrier ROMs has almost got nothing to do in improving your signal strength or connection speeds. If you are concerned about that, you can different radio ROMs. But on the safe side, I suggest that if you are not having any problems, don't change anything.
Regardless of what ROM you use here, as long as you are not changing your radio. You wont have any significant change with your network connection. Fyi, as far as I know, there are 2 ROMs to use to flash a specific part in our phones. The PDA (Operating System) and radio (Phone).
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Well explained.
@ skipper78 - If your looking to improve your signal, gps then your options would be to use apps like QuickGPS & HTC GPSTool or to update your radio.
Your network connection would not be altered changing to a cooked rom
Thanks a lot guys, that clarifies it once and for all -- i dont have to worry about using the undesirable orange ROM.
I am using Duttys V4.3 final, radio 1.14.25.24. Do you think this radio is one of the better options for me?
I like the rom very much -- and by the way my connection speed is not by any means "slow"--but obviously-- the faster the better.
And forgot to mention, its a blackstone.
Thanks again for the quick and clear replies!
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Thanks a lot guys, that clarifies it once and for all -- i dont have to worry about using the undesirable orange ROM.
I am using Duttys V4.3 final, radio 1.14.25.24. Do you think this radio is one of the better options for me?
I like the rom very much -- and by the way my connection speed is not by any means "slow"--but obviously-- the faster the better.
And forgot to mention, its a blackstone.
Thanks again for the quick and clear replies!
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We obviously assumed it was blackstone as your rom wouldn't have worked on another device and this is the HD forum
You are currently using the latest official radio, though signal strength also depends on location. If you want to try a non-official radio like 1.16 which I am using you would need to security unlock your device first and then download it from here.
As for which radio is best for you, you have 2 options:
1. Read each radio thread and see what results others have had in your location
2. Try each radio (only is 3-4 official ones and 3-4 un-offical, though I would only try 1.16 as it is the better of the 4)
Yes, after reading it i thought it was a bit pointless adding that
But hey many thanks for the explanations and links. Im in south america at the moment so im not really using data connection much, way to expensive -- as soon as im back in the uk i will experiment with a few different radios. How come you prefer the 1.16 if you dont mind me asking? Do you find it gives you faster connection speed?
Cheers!
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Yes, after reading it i thought it was a bit pointless adding that
But hey many thanks for the explanations and links. Im in south america at the moment so im not really using data connection much, way to expensive -- as soon as im back in the uk i will experiment with a few different radios. How come you prefer the 1.16 if you dont mind me asking? Do you find it gives you faster connection speed?
Cheers!
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I wrote a reciew on the 1.16 thread. Bsically it had a better GPS fix, better signal stength & slight improvement on battery
I'm closing this thread as everything appears to have been answered.
Ta
Rick
Hi,
please excuse my stupid question - I'm a newbie and English is not my first language:
What exactly does the term "radio" refer to? I only know it as in "listening to a radio station". Is that it or does the term actually refer to the cell phone signals?
I guess the answer to the first question also helps with the remaining questions I have:
There are tons of threads about flashing of the radio (like: "[Resources] Rhodium GSM Radio Collection"), but what do they actually do?
Which radio version should I get (I'm from Germany using O2)? The above mentioned thread says I need to look up the region in the wiki, but the wiki leads back to that exact same thread.
Thanks in advance, Google just gave me a bunch of sites about streaming radio to my phone, but somehow I don't think that is the whole story.
Edit: I did some more research and then I googled for GSM, I got on to the right track. So this is definitely not about listening to my favorite station on better quality.
However, I still wonder why to upgrade and if so, which version...
The cell phone "radio" refers to both the hardware and the software used to send/receive signals over the cell network. GPS also uses the same radio. When talking about flashing the radio, the software component of this is being referred to. Flashing a different radio can (possibly) improve cell reception, as well as battery life (phone constantly trying to connect will drain the battery, flashing a new radio can help alleviate this).
What radio is "best" if often geographically dependent. Also, the newer radios tend to work better than older ones, but that's not always the case. Perhaps somebody in Germany can provide guidance on this radio works the best in your area.
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The cell phone "radio" refers to both the hardware and the software used to send/receive signals over the cell network. GPS also uses the same radio. When talking about flashing the radio, the software component of this is being referred to. Flashing a different radio can (possibly) improve cell reception, as well as battery life (phone constantly trying to connect will drain the battery, flashing a new radio can help alleviate this).
What radio is "best" if often geographically dependent. Also, the newer radios tend to work better than older ones, but that's not always the case. Perhaps somebody in Germany can provide guidance on this radio works the best in your area.
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I see, thank you!
So since I do want to make the best use of the GPS (hopefully with TomTom), this seems to be a rather important issue then.