Hi,
please excuse my stupid question - I'm a newbie and English is not my first language:
What exactly does the term "radio" refer to? I only know it as in "listening to a radio station". Is that it or does the term actually refer to the cell phone signals?
I guess the answer to the first question also helps with the remaining questions I have:
There are tons of threads about flashing of the radio (like: "[Resources] Rhodium GSM Radio Collection"), but what do they actually do?
Which radio version should I get (I'm from Germany using O2)? The above mentioned thread says I need to look up the region in the wiki, but the wiki leads back to that exact same thread.
Thanks in advance, Google just gave me a bunch of sites about streaming radio to my phone, but somehow I don't think that is the whole story.
Edit: I did some more research and then I googled for GSM, I got on to the right track. So this is definitely not about listening to my favorite station on better quality.
However, I still wonder why to upgrade and if so, which version...
The cell phone "radio" refers to both the hardware and the software used to send/receive signals over the cell network. GPS also uses the same radio. When talking about flashing the radio, the software component of this is being referred to. Flashing a different radio can (possibly) improve cell reception, as well as battery life (phone constantly trying to connect will drain the battery, flashing a new radio can help alleviate this).
What radio is "best" if often geographically dependent. Also, the newer radios tend to work better than older ones, but that's not always the case. Perhaps somebody in Germany can provide guidance on this radio works the best in your area.
redpoint73 said:
The cell phone "radio" refers to both the hardware and the software used to send/receive signals over the cell network. GPS also uses the same radio. When talking about flashing the radio, the software component of this is being referred to. Flashing a different radio can (possibly) improve cell reception, as well as battery life (phone constantly trying to connect will drain the battery, flashing a new radio can help alleviate this).
What radio is "best" if often geographically dependent. Also, the newer radios tend to work better than older ones, but that's not always the case. Perhaps somebody in Germany can provide guidance on this radio works the best in your area.
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I see, thank you!
So since I do want to make the best use of the GPS (hopefully with TomTom), this seems to be a rather important issue then.
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is there any way i can make my tilt phone to get a better stronger Signal Strength? i think i heard something about radios? This is all i want and need.
It's possible that a radio can help. Searching the forum for various reports on the different radios is recommended.
You may want to consider that your bars will always fluctuate but the important thing is that you have service. So if I have service in an area and have 2 bars, I will most likely not realize a difference if I had 4. Try looking in teh Kaiser forum under different radios and read what each one does. Even though they have a few for Kaiser, you should not use them unless you know which rom you have.
So how do i install this radio rom? is there a cab version
There is a whole guide on the wiki that you should check out. Once you have Hard SPL installed and your phone unlocked, it is a peice of cake.
ahhh this sound too complicated
Please help. I have been with o2 now for a while and I’ve never had a reception problem this bad… I’ve brought my friends Kaiser. On T-mobile he had great reception around where we live and work but since I have unlocked it I have never had a satisfactory level of reception. I have tried lots of SPL’s, ROMs and radio ROMs (including the stock o2 one) and they are all as bad as each other, give or take. The number of bars of reception varies across the range but they all have the same massive dead spots with no radio reception at all. I have tried other phones i.e. nokia’s, samsung’s and a Hermes I had none of these dead spots.
Now here is where I may betray my noob status, I was beginning to believe it was something wrong with the o2 settings in general because it is like the phone is only picking up reception from certain cell towers (maybe o2 ones?!?) and ignoring others, is this possible or am I just grabbing at straws? Then I discovered a most promising the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-335074.html which is full of people with 3G faults perhaps my problem is linked to the 3G mast nearby and so in fact my phone only works where there is a poor signal and no 3G which forces it to use GSM. I have tried to prove this but my current ROM Mobile Vista 4.00 SeaDragon 5.2.21109 seems unable to remember the GSM setting, the phone locks up and require a soft reset. I am sure it can’t be a hardware fault as suggested in the above thread because my friend had the phone working flawlessly.
Any suggestions as to what I can do. I’ve been at this problem for over 4 months now and am close to admitting defeat, I believe the problem may be beyond me...
I believe you should be posting at General Kaiser Forum instead
My strongest suggestion is go back to factory (OEM) including the SPL and ROM, so you can be sure it's not ROM/Radio. If that's ok, then you need to carefully match the Radio/SPL/ROM. Some radio is only for WM6.0 (check the Radio FAQ, included on the sticky FAQ thread).
Ok I have made a bit of progress but would like some advice. Now that I am aware of the 3G fault I have been keeping an eye on my signal and each time just before the signal dies the phone is trying to switch from gsm/edge to 3G/HSPDA. I have flashed my rom again this time with a reconstructed T-mobile UK rom that I found through the revert to original rom and SPl for waranty returns (Thanks a lot jcespi2005). I now have a 3G/H signal (phew atleast my phones not bricked) but am unable to make or receive calls, I assume this is because it is set up to use T-mobile settings not O2. Is there a cab out there that would let me change the settings for the OEM operator rom so I can keep this working rom. Failing that does anyone have any suggestions for a cooked rom for O2?
Hi all
Ive asked this in the orange thread and also searched for this, but cant seem to get a clear yes/no answer, hope someone can help.
I, for example, am on Orange, and use an Orange SIM.
The question is this, and a noobish one I quess: Being on Orange -- does having the official Orange Rom installed on my phone ofer me any advantages in terms of gprs/edge/ internet browsing speed? In other words, will my internet connection be faster if i have the official rom from Orange, or is this quite irrelevant, compared to (the much prefered) Roms on here? Is the official network Rom somehow "optimized" so that the internet speed is improved on a phone that runs on the same network? Orange Rom on Orange network, in this case?
Hope I make myself clear...Any clarification much appreciated! Thanks for everything...again!
Official carrier ROMs has almost got nothing to do in improving your signal strength or connection speeds. If you are concerned about that, you can different radio ROMs. But on the safe side, I suggest that if you are not having any problems, don't change anything.
Regardless of what ROM you use here, as long as you are not changing your radio. You wont have any significant change with your network connection. Fyi, as far as I know, there are 2 ROMs to use to flash a specific part in our phones. The PDA (Operating System) and radio (Phone).
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Official carrier ROMs has almost got nothing to do in improving your signal strength or connection speeds. If you are concerned about that, you can different radio ROMs. But on the safe side, I suggest that if you are not having any problems, don't change anything.
Regardless of what ROM you use here, as long as you are not changing your radio. You wont have any significant change with your network connection. Fyi, as far as I know, there are 2 ROMs to use to flash a specific part in our phones. The PDA (Operating System) and radio (Phone).
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Well explained.
@ skipper78 - If your looking to improve your signal, gps then your options would be to use apps like QuickGPS & HTC GPSTool or to update your radio.
Your network connection would not be altered changing to a cooked rom
Thanks a lot guys, that clarifies it once and for all -- i dont have to worry about using the undesirable orange ROM.
I am using Duttys V4.3 final, radio 1.14.25.24. Do you think this radio is one of the better options for me?
I like the rom very much -- and by the way my connection speed is not by any means "slow"--but obviously-- the faster the better.
And forgot to mention, its a blackstone.
Thanks again for the quick and clear replies!
skipper78 said:
Thanks a lot guys, that clarifies it once and for all -- i dont have to worry about using the undesirable orange ROM.
I am using Duttys V4.3 final, radio 1.14.25.24. Do you think this radio is one of the better options for me?
I like the rom very much -- and by the way my connection speed is not by any means "slow"--but obviously-- the faster the better.
And forgot to mention, its a blackstone.
Thanks again for the quick and clear replies!
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We obviously assumed it was blackstone as your rom wouldn't have worked on another device and this is the HD forum
You are currently using the latest official radio, though signal strength also depends on location. If you want to try a non-official radio like 1.16 which I am using you would need to security unlock your device first and then download it from here.
As for which radio is best for you, you have 2 options:
1. Read each radio thread and see what results others have had in your location
2. Try each radio (only is 3-4 official ones and 3-4 un-offical, though I would only try 1.16 as it is the better of the 4)
Yes, after reading it i thought it was a bit pointless adding that
But hey many thanks for the explanations and links. Im in south america at the moment so im not really using data connection much, way to expensive -- as soon as im back in the uk i will experiment with a few different radios. How come you prefer the 1.16 if you dont mind me asking? Do you find it gives you faster connection speed?
Cheers!
skipper78 said:
Yes, after reading it i thought it was a bit pointless adding that
But hey many thanks for the explanations and links. Im in south america at the moment so im not really using data connection much, way to expensive -- as soon as im back in the uk i will experiment with a few different radios. How come you prefer the 1.16 if you dont mind me asking? Do you find it gives you faster connection speed?
Cheers!
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I wrote a reciew on the 1.16 thread. Bsically it had a better GPS fix, better signal stength & slight improvement on battery
I'm closing this thread as everything appears to have been answered.
Ta
Rick
Im from israel and my cellular carrier is Pelephone and i dunno what radio is best for my reception, wf, bt, gps....
can any1 suggest me which radio should i use??
Thnx in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506034
this radio works well
hm, that question could only be answered from someone geographically near you, because it depends
what might work for me here could be total disaster for you (slightly exaggerated of course)
with radios you should give it a try and compare signal strength and battery life
my example: I flashed 1.17* w/o getting better reception than with 1.16* radio, but was of the impression my battery drained way faster than before
additional factor: rilphone.dll (or more precisely combo radio + ril)
for comparison:
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I think you get the idea even just quoting a very few on the subject
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general, CLOSED
I have learn a LOT with you people, this is my first post as a question?
Why is needed to change the Radio version? for improving reception? or just TROLL the user (AT&T, T-Mobile) so one can't use another carrier when unlocked?
NO, I'm not talking about SIM-Lock, I know what is that, and is not related to the Radio version...
Answer IF you have the answer, because many people here just answer to increase the posting number.
Thanks for your help...
Radios affect the devices signal strength, either positively or negatively and therefore can also affect the devices battery life.
You can flash any of the available radios for the HD7 to your device. No one radio is necessarily better than another, since each device will respond differently due to geographical location and etc...
If you flash a different radio version to your device, try it for a couple days to determine if the signal strength has increased or decreased and if the battery life is better or worse.
I've tried a couple different radio versions and have found that personally Radio version # 5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21U works the best for my device and is also the recommended radio for Deepshining rom.
The most current radio version is 5.71.09.02a_22.51.50.21U and even though it's the current and up to date radio, my signal strength was weaker using it.
If you do flash a radio use Task 00 to flash it to the device, as this will not perform a hard reset on your device and won't wipe all data and apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16370917&postcount=1