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Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
NeilM said:
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
I am about to get an Orange network branded Kaiser phone, does anyone know if this is identical in function to the unlocked HTC version ie:- wifi, GPS, not crippled, and secondly is it easy to re-flash the rom to get rid of the Orange branding or is this difficult and could easily cause a malfunction and lock the device.
Thanks
1) wifi and GPS all work fine.
2) The Orange homescreen is deselectable on Today settings, Item tab. You can then install the HTChome if you download it from here.
3) If you really want to flash the HTC rom (or a cooked one from here), I think its easy...but I havent bothered. Other than the colour scheme on the dialler page, its fine.
I have an orange branded kaiser, tomtom is not on it nor is wlm from stock, within an hr I had flashed the htc rom, giving me wlm etc and then installed tomtom from the thread in this forum and installed the maps etc from my other copy.
easy enough to do if you follow the instructions on this forum.
How you managed to get one? Retentions?
Mine was from O retail (as I couldnt talk to retentions til next month)
Thanks for all the info,
The company I work for has 6 mobile phones and we were contacted by Orange about an upgrade so I asked if we could upgrade to the Kaiser and they said yes no problem and no charge for the upgrade.
They are very keen on retaining business accounts at present. Make sure you get free calls between the six of you and a worthwhile data package.
AvengerPenguin,
Sorry to be a pain but I have never flashed a rom before and don't want to mess up can you reply with the link to the standard HTC rom and any simple instructions and also a link to the TomTom software as I have the maps I can use that I purchased for my old Artemis.
Thanks
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone here with a Himalaya had managed to get the My Location feature (beta) on Google Maps Mobile to work.
For those who haven't seen it, it is a poor man's GPS. It finds your location basically by calculating the distance to the nearest cell towers. It isn't greatly accurate (usually about a 10 block radius) but it would be yet another cool feature that would keep our Himalayas alive
So, anyone tested, had any luck?
I have had no luck with mine (Sydney, Australia).
When you go to the help/about page, it says "Myl: N/A". Apparently it means I am not receiving cell broadcasts, though I have Channel 050 switched on. Apparently it means we don't have the correct API or something?
Discuss!
I could not get "my location" to work over bluetooth (using bluetooth as a network connection, and having the phone on). It seems like it should work over GPRS, but as I don't have any data connection, I can't test it.
Are you using a AKU7 ROM? The older WM6 Hima ROMs had a GPRS issue
Hi again,
I don't think I am using AKU7. I am using the first WM6 Tofclock Rom that came out. GPRS seems to work ok on it (haven't done much testing due to data plan, but I know it works).
I'm still researching, and will get back with what I find.
Thanks for peoples help in trying to get this program "My Location in Google Maps Mobile" working for everyone. If anyone wants to offer knowledge or assistance (or trial possible solutions on their phone), feel free, it will be much appreicated.
It seems the problem has something to do with the RIL API (did Microsoft ever release it?)
To quote someone else:
Some windows mobile phones are working. Its likely that google is using the RIL api to get the cell tower info, as this is abstracted
from the phone hardware, and they don't need to make a device specific implementation.
A lot of WM smartphones don't work, this seems to be because the RIL API requires that the app be signed with a trusted cert, or the phone be adjusted to not require trusted certs to use the RIL API.
This appears to work for some Java based phones, and here google is probably using the requisite Java APIs, where implemented to obtain the cell ID.
Java phones where this is not working probably do not have the requisite APIs implemented.
SO here are a few questions:
1. Is the RIL on the Himalaya the HTC RIL or the MS RIL? If so, is it the full RIL? (I know HTC used a cut down version for a while and stopped using it after the HTC Universal)
2. Does it come with the trusted certificate (as it is a privileged API)?
3. Would it be possible to run the java version on our phones using the java midlet? Would this come with the proper java location api?
Thanks for any assistance anyone can provide, I'm going back to researching it now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=226505&highlight=radio+interface+layer
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=rilgsm.dll
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RIL
I am currently researching the above three pages trying to wrap my head around stuff.
The My Location feature of Google Maps Mobile has now been tested and works on a relatives Imate JasJam (with a WM6 ROM) in Sydney, Australia. It worked well in Central Sydney, though sporatically in the West Ryde area, and hardly at all on the Central Coast. More than likely due to it swapping between 3G and GSM.
Still trying to get it working on a Himalaya. Any clues?
Has anybody else tested this program? I am trying to see if maybe different radios/Roms will work.... If you have, please detail which WM and which radio you are using. Cheers.
nope not working here too. maps etc loading fine but it says the my location feature is temporarily not available.
hi guys,
have you any advice ... my radio 1.14 wm6.1 rel.19.199 and cannot use my location.gprs working fine.operaator O2 czech rep.
it seems be problem with radio..which version should befine?
thanks a lot!
som.localhost
som.localhost said:
hi guys,
have you any advice ... my radio 1.14 wm6.1 rel.19.199 and cannot use my location.gprs working fine.operaator O2 czech rep.
it seems be problem with radio..which version should befine?
thanks a lot!
som.localhost
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guys please ...
How do you get this back on, after flashing a HTC rom?
Thanks.
Browse to Orange World on your phone and download the app. Personally, I think its a load of crap myself and with A-GPS, its a license to print money.
Got myself a Touch 3G free from Orange on Thursday, and got stung on data with their so-called "Unique" service, plus we all know what Orange are like for shoving their own crappy firmware on phones, disabling features, and forcing people to gorp at their abismal orange and grey customisation!!
Well, I soon put paid to that, my friend.....
Now running the 2.32 olinex loader, Official European (debranded) 2.33 firmware, with SPB Mobile Shell 3.01 over the top, and TomTom v7.9 for my sat nav. Also got an 8GB card coming on Monday, so happy days are here again...
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Hi,
Where can you get the officiail EU firmware 2.33. ( I believe you mean ROM).
Regards.
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Yes, do tell. I am running 2.32 I think, from the ROM page here.
Where did you get Tom Tom from? It can't be purchased on their web site as a download. It comes on its own card which is pointless as I've already got one.
If you access the Orange website, it doesn't allow downloading as says not valid phone or something like that ...
Quick GPS?? Whats use?
Hello,
I did HSPL and got rid of Orange Unique. I am unaware of using GPS navigation. Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is? Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
Sorry about my lack of GPS knowledge, kindly reply.
sachinghayal said:
Hello,
Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is?
Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
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I think Quick GPS is something that helps get a quick lock on the GPS and then stores that data, at htcwiki.com it says "Quick GPS can speed up the amount of time for determining a users GPS position by downloading the latest satellite information via an Internet Connection"
I do not know of any free directional sat nav for win mobile. Google Maps is free though, but does not AFIK give turn by turn directions.
Co-Pilot 8 is rather inexpensive - have a look at their web site alk.com (but read their forum too before committing to a purchase).
No you do not pay for GPS usage to anyone.
I bought this hd7 a week ago from ebay seller. It is a t-mobile unlocked device.
My location services are turned on , but whenever i goto bing maps and search for my location, it keeps on searching but never shows me my location.
I have already done with following solutions i got from internet and htc call center.
1) Already flashed htc asia rom
2) Tried to search without sim card inserted
3)Tried to find my location in open skies
4)already turned on the location services
5)when i try other gps app like gmaps, it searches and gives error "The GPS data isn't available now". My 3g is also on, so there is no problem of downloading the maps.
I want to tell that i live in india, and i am using hotmail account with country : United states in order to use marketplace on my phone.
So, considering all above things, What could be the problem?
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hi,
Download an app in the market place named GPS (its free).. And run it.. it initializes the GPS signal.
I am using the HD7 T9292 T-mobile unlocked at Vietnam and i am doing fine with TA Maps, Bingle Maps, even Bing Maps works fine without info about roads at Vietnam .
Try to flash back to T-mobile 7004 rom and then get the update
By the way, you can unlock the phone after you flash back to 7004, and then search for the HTC GPS Test Tool Xap somewhere in xda forum to test your GPS.
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I bought this hd7 a week ago from ebay seller. It is a t-mobile unlocked device.
My location services are turned on , but whenever i goto bing maps and search for my location, it keeps on searching but never shows me my location.
I have already done with following solutions i got from internet and htc call center.
1) Already flashed htc asia rom
2) Tried to search without sim card inserted
3)Tried to find my location in open skies
4)already turned on the location services
5)when i try other gps app like gmaps, it searches and gives error "The GPS data isn't available now". My 3g is also on, so there is no problem of downloading the maps.
I want to tell that i live in india, and i am using hotmail account with country : United states in order to use marketplace on my phone.
So, considering all above things, What could be the problem?
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same problem
Hello,
Was there a solution found for this problem. I am having the same problem on a brand new unlocked HD7 that I bought. Any solution would be very much appreciated
I'm not sure if this helps, but I had some issues with GPS on my HD7S (AT&T) and I calibrated the compass. It made a huge difference.
I would occasionally get the no data when trying to use GPS. I haven't had a problem since.
It usually takes some time for the GPS to start working, sometimes I need to use the GPS with a clear sky (no buildings around) to make it work properly.
Yea , I have the same problem
I am also outside US , with a T-Mobile HD7 (Egypt) ,also have the settings USA for Marketplace.
I managed to get A-GPS to work though , I'm not sure what I really did , but I think I installed the HTC Compass app , that made things work I guess
But A-GPS is totally inaccurate , hundreds of meters of error-margin !
If anyone had anyluck with that , please tell us
UPDATE: The above method made my GPS working , the problem was in the area I was trying the GPS in. once I got out of the buildings area , the GPS recieved the data nicely (not 100% uptime , but at down times it switches to A-GPS)
To find out in which GPS mode are you in ( full or A-GPS ) you will need to download a free tool called "GPSInfo" from the marketplace
The HD7 gps just seems to suck, or maybe we have bad luck.
Mine takes forever to search, and when it does search it is WAAAY OFF.
hopefully mango can fix my problems
Ok i'll jump on the band wagon.... I've had this issue forever really. The gps is a few blocks off in certain areas. In my house it was pretty decent one day (I was shocked!!) but normally it's off from day to day. It could be 3 blocks, 2 blocks... Right now in Manhattan, it's showing me 4 blocks off from where I am. I honestly just don't get it. Is it the hardware? Tried the compass, tried the GPS app.
Honestly, I just feel something has to be reset in the system
Ok weird. I figured out my problem. When I'm connected to WiFi and try to use the GPS its off by a few blocks. It jumps between two spots and never gets the right location. WiFi off and it pin points it exactly.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
THE SOULTION IS SIMPLE IF GPS ON YOUR HD7 IS NOT WORKING AT ALL.
- Go to Settings
- Go to Region & Language
- Change Region format to Language (your Country's name)
- Change System locale to Language (your Country's name)
I am in India and the GPS on my HD7 (O2 UK) did not work for 1 month. I tried many things but this worked at last.
I also downloaded 'Drive On' navigation app later and it provides Voice Navigation for free and works very accurately. Bing Maps and Gmaps are fast but have no voice.