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Do me a favour [NSFW or Children]

Guys, I want to ask for a favour.
Ages and ages back I read about what I thought was an amazingly cool gadget.
We like gadgets.
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I got speaking with the guy that invented this thing, and was mightily impressed. You'll be able to read my review soon... but this is the gadget:
The Alpha Grip:
It's a keyboard, compressed onto a gamepad like device. The keys are positioned around and under natural finger positions, according to usage and linguistic frequency; others are positions under the controller and used with rocker type switches.
It's difficult to describe, but the thing sits naturally in your hands and you have full keyboard access, in an exceptionally innovative, ergonomic design.
And, there's more - it also has a little trackerball that sits under your thumb position, so you can control both mouse and keyboard functions without ever taking your hands off the device.
It is complicated, and takes some getting used to, but when you are used to it, it's amazingly neat and geeky. I used to play all of my FPS games with a nostromo N52, but this thing lets you even further automate your gaming, macros and keyboard layouts. It's not quite the perfect game controller, but it's damn near close.
It is wired USB. Wires are baaad.
Unfortunately, it is not wireless or bluetooth etc, which is something I've spoken to the inventor about implementing. So, it's not quite ready for our phones yet, but as and when it is, wow.
However, I use it with an OQO mini computer and it's a perfect marriage, compact and highly productive (once you master the learning curve and get used to it). I guess you could use it with an xbox 360 and ps3 too, which would be cooool (although I've never tried). It emulates a standard USB Keyboard and mouse, so is highly compatible and doesn't use special drivers.
Anyway, enough blurb, I'm not selling this thing, I'm not even reviewing this thing here - you'll be able to read a full review from me eventually (and I'm in no way commercially connected or benefited from this).
However, my favour:
AlphaGrip, the company, have superb technical support and customer care. I like the product, I like the company. But you've probably never heard of either.
So: Yahoo have a competition on right now running between various small businesses that need more attention. I think Alphagrip needs and deserves this... so, have a look at the Yahoo page, and see if you think AlphaGrip deserves a vote. You don't have to buy the product, or even like it, but just decide if it deserves some of your mouse click love to get a gadget a bit more attention.
Gracias.
Yahoo Competition
V
PS. If you do buy one, tell Mike Willner, the inventor, that I sent you. I'll try to put in a good word for us and get us a deal.
EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Guys, I want to repeat. I don't work for these guys, and aren't commercially linked to them in any way. I've just found Mike and his guys (and gals) to be a refreshingly helpful and conscientious tech company. They don't over inflate their claims, but make 100% solid and innovative stuff.

its got my vote.. im not a gamer but love me some gadgets, can see that thing being very useful

Thanks shogunmark!
I have to say that I'm quite a fan of non standard input devices. My all time favourite is the Microsoft Strategic Commander. If you've never seen one, it's basically the thing the little dude in Flight of the Navigator uses to fly the UFO. It kicks ass, but it's a bit too clever for it's own good. It actually has one axis assigned to flexing space/time, like too much Prince of Persia!
Day to day I tend to use the Nostromo n52 (not just for games, but general productivity work with appropriate macros, keyboard hooks and Windows PowerPro - my all time favourite app)
And I've also reviewed the Wolf Claw, which is more conventional, but useful for WASD users. I'm not a WASD fan personally.
BTW, I finally managed to spend some time with the Wii this weekend. It's not a particularly accurate input device, but novel - has anyone considered porting the open source Windows Bluetooth Input Interface to WinMob? It'd be cool to play doom on your phone on the Tube. Way to get shot in the head...
V

EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Also, Mike said that if you want to complain, make suggestions or ask for something completely different, go over to their development wiki to shape what a future Smartphone Compatible version should do.
http://wiki.alphagrips.com/AG-6+Suggestions
V

vijay555 said:
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it)
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Who watches video's?!?? i just do what the voices tell me to

just do what the voices tell me
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Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
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vijay555 said:
Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
V
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oh yeah, i remember those video's...

You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
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vijay555 said:
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
V
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oh i cooked breakfast.. you were still sleeping, must have been all those roofies i slipped you
wow, talk about hijacking a thread

This thread has gotten really saucy!
It's funny, when checked the thread and first saw the pics of the controller, I thought someone was having some fun with Photoshop. That is one crazy looking gadget!
I think it's wild enough to be pretty cool though. I like anything new and weird though. (including this thread )

mikechannon said:
Don't encourage them for gawd's sake Taurus. Sounds like they're as fruity as a nut cake:
Mike
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is that anything like this:

Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
[SIZE=+1]Back Knobbler [/SIZE]Order code: BK
Manage your own chronic trigger point pain! The 2 different size ends and natural shape allow the user to apply as much pain releasing pressure for as long as required to achieve remarkable effects.
Price: £25.00 each
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Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!

vijay555 said:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
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I just voted again, looks like your guy is currently in the lead
Has there ever been a "usual" conversation between the mods, i mean really?!?
I can think of a few people that would need those for christmas

Looking at that knobbler thing, the more it seems to make sense.
My brain overheats just thinking about the possibilities... you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
V
PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!

vijay555 said:
My brain overheats
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I dont think thats your brain, but im sure you still think with it
vijay555 said:
you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
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You think thats tough.. can you imagine the Research and Development team on that?
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PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
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I think thats pretty obvious, especially with that really old guy mikechannon

mikechannon said:
Since you boys obviously get on so well together and I'd rather keep well away from this very weird thread, I'm going to present you both with a much superior controller than vijay's suggestion. I think you'll find it reminds you of each other so you need never feel lonely again:
Mike
(and it's not even entered for gadget of the year!! Go on shake hands with an old friend!)
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was that from your private collection?

Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.

vijay555 said:
Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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brings a whole new meaning to those traffic cones...
And mike, if you accept V's open invitation, you may want to consider some help..
And dont forget to vote

Hey guys, would any of you consider using the AlphaGrip or any of the above toys, including those for external application only?
One game pad I haven't owned is the Saitek Pro Gamer Command.
I played with it once on a display model and found it tacky and clunky. I much prefer the ergonomics of the Nostromo.
Do you guys ever use these things? Like I said, Nostromo is great for FPS, but you can also configure it to do stuff in productivity apps like PhotoShop, Word, VS2005, Winamp etc (although of course you can do that with pretty much any input device with appropriate software).
V

Geez, what have I got myself into?! This thread degenerated in a hurry.

the things pc users dont get about apple! :P

it's not just a pc/phone/mp3player
it's a lifestyle
a lifestyle where you have a designer home
which the people from the magazine will come by to get some pictures
for their frontcover of!
and right after that steve jobs comes by
and comment on your cool new black turtle neck
then you play 1on1 baskerball for a bit
and take your rollerblades and run/drive
down to the coffee shop(not the dutch type )
where you have a latte' and listen to some progressive
standUp poets
and thats a day!

apple users on the other hand dont know what it's like being a pc user
always checking under the bed and behind the trashcans in the ally
to check if steve balmer is there (he's always somewhere! )
sniffing and checking and looking if you somehow
are taking shady actions which will in some way
shake his empire
he's not scared of getting a bit rouch and psycial
and sooner or later he will! inject that transmitter device/mind control pill
which for some odd ms R&D related reason can only be inserted
into the rectum
and he will totally kill your dualboot with linux
remove all your favourite mongoose pr0n
and set back your desktop to the default ms comercial it came with
and put buy vista on your today list

:O given the choice of walking passed him in a brith ligth steet i would take my chances with the radioactive bums with freggin laserbeams on their heads
in the dark ally

no biggy i've been doing that myself for years
have been thinking about going to uk but the whole concept of going
the wrong way around roundabouts would prob make me break down
and confess everything

never heard about her before in my life
maybe i just dont come in the right commune
circles
heck maybe i'm on their list of the first up agenst
the well when the revolution comes

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this one is more fun

mikechannon said:
But Rudegar Steve Ballmer loves us, he even breaks a sweat when cheerleading for us:
http://www.ntk.net/media/developers.mpg
Mike
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I might have nightmares tonight.
"I'm a Mac - And I'm a PC".
I have virtually no virus. I also don't have great games and a lot of software is not compatible with me neither.
Almost every game is compatible with windows, same goes for software. And we KNOW about goddamned viruses!
I am not complicated. I come with a webcam because compatibility issues would make buying one a mess.
How bad! As long as you don't go with vista, everything can be plugged to your PC!
I can't have users that simply like me, they need to ***** about how great the mac lifestyle is.
I have an enormous amount of users worldwide and no one is whining about this. Some pretend I'm Satan
"I'm an iPhone - And I'm a Pocket PC"
You can guess these alone...

Hmm.... Here we go fighting again over which computing architecture is better...
Oh well, might as well through some wood on that fire:
At work, my station is a 2.4 P4 PC with XP Pro. A graphics designer in our office is using an old G4 Mac with OS 9 (I am told it is running a 400MHz processor, but I really don't know).
Once when I needed to use the Mac to find some file (the graphics guy was on vacation) I found that getting used to a mouse with only one button is not so easy... (WTF? There isn't even tap and hold
Then again, single operation on a certain huge graphic file that took almost 30 min on my PC took less then 2 min on the Mac...
What does that say about which is better? Nothing! To each his (or hers) own!
But I do think that Apple is making a move in a very bad (read: suicidal) direction by announcing that unlocked iPhones will be bricked by firmware update...

levenum said:
But I do think that Apple is making a move in a very bad (read: suicidal) direction by announcing that unlocked iPhones will be bricked by firmware update...
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F them.. thats what they get for getting an iphone

levenum said:
What does that say about which is better? Nothing! To each his (or hers) own!
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Obviously, but I don't get the "lifestyle" thing. I'm glad this is not a gaming forum. This kind of topic get red hot in a matter of seconds as soon as you mention anything that could possibly eventually somehow in an explicit way that that X console might not be as good as Y console. Good times...

N1c0_ds said:
I might have nightmares tonight.
"I'm a Mac - And I'm a PC".
I have virtually no virus. I also don't have great games and a lot of software is not compatible with me neither.
Almost every game is compatible with windows, same goes for software. And we KNOW about goddamned viruses!
I am not complicated. I come with a webcam because compatibility issues would make buying one a mess.
How bad! As long as you don't go with vista, everything can be plugged to your PC!
I can't have users that simply like me, they need to ***** about how great the mac lifestyle is.
I have an enormous amount of users worldwide and no one is whining about this. Some pretend I'm Satan
"I'm an iPhone - And I'm a Pocket PC"
You can guess these alone...
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hmm,.
let me guess then,.

"wow is that because macs have superior anti-virus and protection and stuff"
lol
the ad has a real catchy slogan too

neptune said:
"wow is that because macs have superior anti-virus and protection and stuff"
lol
the ad has a real catchy slogan too
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Love these comics. (ctrlaltdel-online.com)

Rudegar said:
it's not just a pc/phone/mp3player
it's a lifestyle
a lifestyle where you have a designer home
which the people from the magazine will come by to get some pictures
for their frontcover of!
and right after that steve jobs comes by
and comment on your cool new black turtle neck
then you play 1on1 baskerball for a bit
and take your rollerblades and run/drive
down to the coffee shop(not the dutch type )
where you have a latte' and listen to some progressive
standUp poets
and thats a day!
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Gah!!! Blasphemer.
iDont Like your tone of voice, mister.
Now excuse me as I go off and iM my iFriends on my iMac

heres another one I found that I think is tru to life in representin these companies
its like they got 'em by the ballz

down with Win-dohs, down with Mac, Linux FTW!

g35driver said:
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crackup!

the web cam was mentioned as something a mac would have trouble with. You should try vista! I noticed that my built in web cam was not set up properly in my device manager so i selected the correct cam and installed the driver. I restarted vista and it told me the computer could not start. There was no access to anything like safe mode from xp. Vista then reinstalled all its components (taking half an hour) it then told me it would not be able to fix itself then brought up the blue screen and turned off. Thats like saying screw you - you messed with a minor piece of hardware your computer is now garbage.
I repeated this 5 times and it magically worked. A quick trip to device manager to disable the cam and no more problems. Even through my disgust with macs they are starting to look a whole lot better compared to vista.

We are mad to buy TYTN II...

I've this phone from 2 weeks.
I know very well wm devices. I was a wm programmer.
I can't believe that I spent 800€ to buy a phone slower than my previous HP hw6915.
Scrolling pages is really slow and awful to see.
But this morning... I tried to show a video with TCPMP... incredible. Video playback is really bad!!!! And this is a 400mhz device!!!
Why we bought this device?
Sure, modem, bluetooth, wifi, ... works good... but they works good also on my HP IPAQ and on many other wm devices.. that are really cheaper!!!!
I can understand why there are a lot of tytn II used on sell. Maybe into some days there will be also mine. I prefer to loose 400€ but I can't use this device... I'm really hungry!
I know xda-developer is working hard to understand how to realize video driver.. but I can't believe we have to wait after have payed 800€. It's like to buy a car that can go only at 50km/h but a future upgrade can let me to go at 200!!

Thank you for sharing this unique information...

I beg to differ
I would have to disagree, aside from the driver issue (which is well known in this community) the Tytn II is fast (with a good ROM) relatively powerful and exceptionally highly spec'd, especially if you consider that the handset has been out for some time.
In many people’s opinion it still hold its own to every other handset that has been released since, impressive in context of the pace of development in the pda market right now.
It is easy to take one component of the Tytn II and compare it to another to show the Tytn II as being inferior, however I consider this to be a flawed comparison, you should consider the phone as a complete entity before making any comparisons with another handset. I would probably say that my old Imate Jam, when stripped down to a clean ROM, was faster than anything that has been released before or since, however, specification wise it doesn’t hold a candle to the the Tytn II.
As a personal observation I have not had any speed problems, even running multiple processor intensive apps. I think this goes to show how much of a difference a cooked ROM could make to the handset in terms of speed (and functionality).

I have HyperDragon`s newest ROM and god that this is fast, I thought that there wouldn`t be faster ROM after L26_DV9, but there obviously is. So I haven`t got any of those problems you have there mate, except the driver issue >.<
Cooked ROM, epic win.

I didn't buy a phone to be rebuild at my home.
I bought a finished ready to be sold phone at 800€.
You all have changed your ROM wasting a lot of time and with the risk to brick your phone. And now? If now you've problems with hardware faults you'd have problems with htc warranty.
It would be as if I buy a car in mounting kit... so "hello, here are bumpers, here are wheels, ... please mount it but pay!!!".
When you buy a wm device you buy hardware+wm6 customization for that hardware. If you found roms that can go faster than original one it means that original rom is not good!
With new roms you're not adding new features ... you're only trying to use your hardware device as better as possible.
But in 800€ I paid the development of both hardware and software. If some of them doesn't work is awful!!!!
Try to imagine if, for example, tytn ii speaker doesn't work... many and many items would be sent back for repair. For software??? what can we do? Send tytn II back to htc saying that device is slow? We can't do anything than try to waste our time to upgrade it with non official rom!!!
Simply... MAD!

I can only assume that, as someone who is a WM programmer, you forgot to do some online research before you forked out for your device.
You would have found many posts on here about how you can speed it up with different ROMs but if it isnt up to standard out-of-the-box, then more fool you for buying it the first place.
I don't have any sympathy for people who don't use the information and reviews available online to make a judgement before they buy.

OF COURSE original rom isn`t good since it is directly from ms >.<
With new roms you are adding new features for the os, or that depends from programs which comes with it.
And if you ask me it isn`t time wasting when you update crappy and ****ty original winmo rom to a faster one.
E: Wow, you had expensive tytn, here in Finland is a shop which sells it 650e.

rjcb23 said:
I can only assume that, as someone who is a WM programmer, you forgot to do some online research before you forked out for your device.
You would have found many posts on here about how you can speed it up with different ROMs but if it isnt up to standard out-of-the-box, then more fool you for buying it the first place.
I don't have any sympathy for people who don't use the information and reviews available online to make a judgement before they buy.
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Well spoken.
This guy is just a
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FabX said:
You all have changed your ROM wasting a lot of time and with the risk to brick your phone.
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And most of us would probably have done the same thing even if the stock rom wasn't a pile of ****e

FabX said:
I didn't buy a phone to be rebuild at my home.
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Sounds like he should get an iphone. A true "wm Programmer" would love to have the opportunity to modify, customize and bring the device to the brink of "borkage".

ChumleyEX said:
This guy is just a
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Damn, I had to explain my colleagues why I was suddently laugthing

800 Euros????
holy crap!! You should have bought that car you're on about.... )
now, i'm hungry too, where's my burger.....
on a serious note - don't throw it away yet... wait for android )

Dude the whole point of buying a WM based mobile is to reprogram it, update it,...
Yes you might go and get another brand of WM phone but for someone like me TYTN II by far is the most stable handset I ever had.

FabX doesnt read ( if you look at most of his other posts here, you can clearly tell he didnt even read our WIKI first ) and I have no sympathy for people who dont first research. These phones, even without the 3d drivers, completely smash the market of other WM phones available ( minus the upcoming HTC's ). I have been using WM cell phones for quite a time, and my HP 6315, HP 6515, Blackberry 8830 just to name a few ( all work devices ) could NEVER NEVER NEVER hold up against the performance of my Hermes ( Titan/ 8525 ) let alone my Kaiser. Sorry to tell this guy but if he doesnt realize what he purchased, then he doesnt deserve the technology and should downgrade to an Iphone ........ That way our forum can get rid of the kind of people here who dont contribute

pyraxiate said:
Sorry to tell this guy but if he doesnt realize what he purchased, then he doesnt deserve the technology and should downgrade to an Iphone ........
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now that's funny..

i've always had wm devices, and just recently sold my tilt and purchased a nokia e71 and love it! my biggest reason for selling it was battery life, (had to charge it at least once in the middle of the day) and adding a extended battery was making a huge device even bigger and heavier. this is my first s60 phone and love it so far. not as many programs as wm, and i'm still getting used to it, but going 2-3 days without a charge is amazing!

slovoflud said:
wait for android )
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that's what I am doing, s60 till android.

Thanks all for offensive pictures/text..
Fortunately this is a free forum and you (AND ALSO ME) can write what you want...
However, obviously if I bought a wm device again is to change it every time and reprogram it for each need. You can believe me or not... but I'm quite happy to make all try I like.
BUT my observation is that there was nothing on TYTN II specifications that explain me that this device is sold without video driver! Look at picture on htcclassaction regarding "drivers not included" ... this is what I meant.
Thank you very much to all.

FabX said:
Thanks all for offensive pictures/text..
Fortunately this is a free forum and you (AND ALSO ME) can write what you want...
However, obviously if I bought a wm device again is to change it every time and reprogram it for each need. You can believe me or not... but I'm quite happy to make all try I like.
BUT my observation is that there was nothing on TYTN II specifications that explain me that this device is sold without video driver! Look at picture on htcclassaction regarding "drivers not included" ... this is what I meant.
Thank you very much to all.
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OMG he thinks Babies are offensive.
The point is, that you didn't read anything about the Kasier other then the specs, for a phone that is pretty much a year old you could have found a treasure trove of reviews and write-ups. All of which would have said, there are missing video drivers, and then point to a class action lawsuit.
Your reasoning is pretty lame and unoriginal, so stop crying and play with your phone and have fun.
I will never understand why people come on here to tell us that the phone is so slow ect ect,.. Don't you people realize that this site is the formost authority on this phone, HTC comes here to fix ****.
ps. I think babies are cute.

Nobody buys a new phone without doing research, right?
I went to Google, and using the search term "HTC TyTn II" got a link to Wikipedia for our device. And wouldn't ya know that bullet point #5 reads: "Video driver issues".
Was that so hard?
This should help with the redness and irritation caused by not having video drivers.

You Need To See This!!!

CLICK HERE
I dont think I've ever seen anybody give such a biased review as this, this guy had my blood boiling for a moment.
Take a look if you dare and judge for yourself. Tell me if you can keep your composure...
Star Wars said:
Wow this guy is a dumbass!
I have seen lizards sunbathing give better reviews than this, then again this is the iphone blog so I guess I may have been expecting a little too much since peripheral vision with other electronic devices that aren’t Apple pretty much is non-existent, I guess he can be forgiven.
Great star wars theme impression tho!
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lol best comment ever!!!

who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.

jadephyre said:
who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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Neither do I give a rats a** but its astonishing how someone can put out that piece of junk (only going as deep as the main menu) and call it a review.
Then again if it's a calculated scheme to increase number of hits to their site, then i guess they have succeeded, can't say if it's the right attention though.

Cant see why the fuss - the review was pretty sh*t but the phone looks like a bloater, its way to thick for my taste and makes my Touch look like its super thin. And his comments about the interface are true - in its pursuit to make eye candy HTC keep making it slower and more error prone. I would never buy an Iphone as i love the customization of the HTC but for your average phone user who does not want to learn anything at all the iphone gives them all they need.

I just can't stand Apple and their Marketing Tactics... they make it sound like they were the first to bring a Smartphone (which the iPhone actually isn't) to the Market that has a touchscreen... and Millions of fanboys actually fall in line and buy that crap.
I'm not saying that Apple Computers are crap, they're good at a few things too, chief among which is "looking good" but did the world really need that overhyped Phone ?

well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!

I could care less if my Phone was the size of a frickin' cinder-block as long as it does everything I want it to do... it does not have to be slim enough to slide it through underneath a Door.
I'll probably get me an HTC Opal next year or so, with Manila 2D... that thing will make me happier than any iPhone that will ever see the light of day.

What a fool!!!!
Holy **** he makes HTC Fuze makes the most ****ing piece of crap ever made! jajajaja i will make a video review for my hermes and it will be much better than that stupidity useless preview.... Holy **** this makes me hunger!!!

That was actually rather ridiculous. He does make some valid points as to WM's lack of finesse in some departments, but he really seemed to go out of his way to be child-like and/or a douche bag with that phone.
Yes, I tend to use a stylus with my Tilt because the screen seems to be purposefully fighting me, but it's not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be.

"The era of hard keyboards is over"
whatever, I think this review is totaly refering to the guys inteligence. He complains that he dont know how to use the sliding of the pics and music. How is that silly.

LOL
The music of "star wars" is hilarious!!
Hahahaha

origins81 said:
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
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Which is funny, because the Samsung Instinct has the same features/layout as the iPhone.

orb3000 said:
Sorry to disagree with you but that´s not true, hard keyboards will never be substituted, just wait a few months and you´ll see what´s coming...
Respectfully,
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.

Mikulec said:
That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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Ohh I´m sorry, my mistake
Cheers,

Wow, that is truly a slap on the neck. He just could be the most annoying thing ever with that introduction. It's a rather childish review if you ask me.

That idiot with his comments is one the biggest stupidities i've seen in my life. If his brain capacity is not high enough (or there at all) to manipulate a pocket pc, he should have never blame it on the device and get himself a Motorola Startak (with the Manual Book and Quick Reference Guide of course!!).

Haha! I bet he still uses it.

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he touches the screen like a cat scratching a tire

the guy is like woody allen reviewing a phone

well, he does have ONE point, the "smoothness" of the phone isnt all that great, coming(him, not me) from the iphone, you shouldn't have to wait for your touch to take effect, for example when he is trying to navigate in HTCalbum. stupid qualcomm CPU's. I'm not buying another htc phone until they use a different processor, I was ALMOST fooled with the TouchPRO, until I saw some videos and heard some input. in some ways its worse and slower than the kaiser.
We need an HTC phone that is as fast as the iphone or faster. I'm really surprised HTC hasn't tried to compete speed wise, it really amazes me...
o, but anyway, about the video.
Yeah he kinda sucks at reviewing. And it's obvious he is a noob to TouchFLO3d lol. he's not grabbing the current tab, he's just sliding on other tabs.

Note 4 #Pengate. What it is and should we be worried.

Hey everyone, I just got my Note 4 yesterday and ran into some pretty big S Pen issues. I haven't seen anyone else post about this or make videos about this so I'm assuming this is just an isolated incident. Basically, the S Pen doesn't work along a vertical band that stretches up the entire device. Has anyone else had this issue? If so, did you find a way to fix it? (factory reset, re-calibration, etc)?
I'm going to try a factory reset soon and see if that fixes it. I just wanted to post about it in this forum just in case it's more common than I thought. Here's a video on it.

Stop slapping '#gate' at every little thing.
Please. Just stop.

This is not happening to me, it's just a defective unit.

doesn't happen on mine

It's hardly a common issue. This makes the whole "gate" thing even more embarrassing.
It's clearly just a defective unit. Likely a faulty wacom digitizer if it only affects the spen. Any phone can get a faulty touchscreen too.

Good to know this isn't a common thing so far. The Note 4 was just released yesterday in the US so I wasn't sure if it was an issue specific to the US variant. There were originally two bands that didn't work on my phone then all of a sudden one of them started working again. Maybe this will go away with time, but I'm still definitely going to do an exchange once I can.
I understand that "Pengate" may be an irritating title, but I wanted to make sure people were aware of this so they check their S Pens right when they get their notes. It's not often that someone uses the S Pen to write on the entire screen so dead spots might go unnoticed for months which would put a lot of people out of the easy exchange period where they could just swap out their phone at the store they bought it from. Dealing with manufacturers for defects always takes way longer than it should so the idea was to help avoid that hassle.

Mine too!
Believe it or not I have the same issue though the area where the pen won't write is different. Also the pen can be quite unresponsive and unreliable at times.
I'll see if there's a fix that comes up or if I also have a defective unit.

Oh no not another "gate" troll thread!
What does "gate" have to do with anything you have written about? it is simply unnecessary.

Nuu~ said:
Stop slapping '#gate' at every little thing.
Please. Just stop.
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Thanks for that. I was thinking that I'd accidentally just stumbled on to macrumors.com.

No problem here with my unit. Tried to do a software reset ?

Galaxaster said:
Believe it or not I have the same issue though the area where the pen won't write is different. Also the pen can be quite unresponsive and unreliable at times.
I'll see if there's a fix that comes up or if I also have a defective unit.
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Thanks for the post. I'd definitely get it back to wherever you got yours and see if you can exchange it for a new one. Even if there is a way to fix it I'm still not sure how much I'd trust that it wouldn't happen again sometime shortly after my warranty ran out. Do you have the US version or the international version? I'm wondering if this is just a US version issue.

homer285 said:
What does "gate" have to do with anything you have written about? it is simply unnecessary.
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I'll give you that. "Gate" comes from the Watergate scandal. People are throwing "gate" onto the end of anything they think is a big deal. While this Note 4 issue may not be a big deal (we won't know for another week or so since the US version was just released yesterday), I decided to use "gate" to intentionally draw attention to it. More people would click it and spread the word about a potential issue that most people wouldn't find quickly enough to be able to fix it without going through Samsung. Is it a "cheap" way of spreading the news? Absolutely, I won't disagree with that. But it's spreading the news so people don't end up with the RMA hassle in case this does become a widespread issue with the US version of the Note 4. The US version was only released yesterday and so far 4 people have messaged me saying they have the same issue with their Note 4's only a few hours after posting the video.
I'm sorry for the irritation. I had a feeling some people would get offended by the title, but couldn't think of a better way to spread the news quickly.

No problem with my spen. Did u check ur case? Spen cannot write on the place where magnet is located
Sent from my SM-N910C using XDA Free mobile app

I had two blind spots on the right side of my Note 4 where the SPEN didn't work.
Reason: My case contains two magnets which interfere with the SPEN.

Remove case, try again, still there?
Return for a replacement.

#Penagte - HashTàg|(Interesting fact(s)( )) [·]¦
I think that you did own this HasHtag.
But this post is about around 13 hrs. old.
Now this video here has aproxxminntlý the same age.
Everybody can own everything and everybody don't actaully thinks, that this hashtag is just from you!
Now you made something that is getting famous!
Just own a realistique hashtag and nobody knows, that you('re the ONE AND ONLY PERSON that did )invent/devise this hashtag!
But Pengate isn't a bad idea.
But why always that „gate“?
14hrs. ago, the hashtag #Pengate was worldwide COMPLETELy UNKNOWN!
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Welll..... i don't want to say ANYTHING agianst you.
This is just what i've recognized!

TacticalMissions said:
Couldn't think of a better way to spread the news quickly.
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A local Ebola outbreak is something you want to spread the news of quickly. A potential and yet unproven mobile device defect not so much. You're obviously articulate. I think your title was carefully chosen for the effect it created.
Widespread problems on a device self-identify. Sensationalism just drives hypochondriacs. If this really is a problem of note we'll know soon enough.

SM-N910 L Korean Exynos version here, spen is working fine. Unit is in my possession for two weeks now and no problems whatsoever.

This is not a #gate problem..... hopefully that phone can be exchanged soon.
Sent from my SM-N910U

BarryH_GEG said:
A local Ebola outbreak is something you want to spread the news of quickly. A potential and yet unproven mobile device defect not so much. You're obviously articulate. I think your title was carefully chosen for the effect it created.
Widespread problems on a device self-identify. Sensationalism just drives hypochondriacs. If this really is a problem of note we'll know soon enough.
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That's a fair point. This is absolutely a first world problem where the worst effect of people not knowing about this just results in a headache with RMAs. When we compare this to Ebola, world hunger, or the widespread sex trafficking happening all over the US it really makes any tech topic dumb to complain about or quickly spread news about.
Aside from that I just realized another negative effect of using #pengate. Hardcore Apple fans would likely grab that and start making irritating arguments about how Apple makes the best phones in the world because of #pengate. Conversely, hardcore android fans may see this as an attack on android instead of just a heads up.
Next time I find something like this I'll be more careful at picking a tag to spread news quickly. BTW, I appreciate your well articulated arguments against using "gate". You make you point well without needing to be offensive. :good: