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What GPS software package are you guys thinking of using?

Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?

I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.

I use tomtom and find it great.

i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..

I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.

Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?

Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC

I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.

With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.

southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"

ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.

MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct

I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*

UnicornKaz said:
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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dai_white said:
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html

I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...

I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.

technillion said:
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard

Garmin Lag

does garmin lag on anyone elses tilt or is mine just messed up. by lag i mean its very choppy. it updates itself like every two seconds. annoying like crazy. i love the interface and the maps look better than tomtom, but i just cant seem to get used to the choppyness. i'ved tried changing setting and all the tools it comes with but can't seem to change this. does anyone else have this problem?

My works great with Garmin Mobile XT on the micro-sd it came with.
I forget, but I think there is a setting to be sure the micro-sd card is not powered down on the Tilt? i could be totally off-base on that though... but worth a look!

yeah, its in the kaiser tweak software. i tried it both ways and its still hella slow...

no problem
Mine works perfect.

When I tried it I had a very slow interface as well. It was always like a half of block away from any intersection and was slow on turns.
I moved to iGo and love it. Better (imo) interface than both TT and Garmin XT

shashi_anand said:
Mine works perfect.
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care to ellaborate? how about what rom you are using ? or what version of garmin mobile xt ?
I used garmin mobile on L26 Diamond rom v9 and it lagged so bad. It would be off by almost half a block on city streets. On highways it would pause for about 10 seconds at a time is some instances. I really like garmin with all the features it has and I am still keeping it on my phone just for traffic detours. But if there is a way to get it so it didnt lag and ran at least as smooth as tomtom that would be great.
TomTom is a very competent nav program , but I have opted to go with iGO8 as it is much smoother , it features TTS and the interface has more functiions, although i read that the maps have errors in them , I have yet to experience it.

TrainRekS said:
...... , but I have opted to go with iGO8 as it is much smoother , it features TTS and the interface has more functiions, although i read that the maps have errors in them , I have yet to experience it.
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How do you get TTS to work on igo? I have igo june 3rd release.. but no TTS..
I have all 3 and I like igo the most...
TomTom - easiest to use... maps kinda outdated.. picks funky routes and the eta time is way off
Garmin XT - poi are out of date... better then tomtom as far as eta... about the same at picking routes... i wish i could customize the display more... cant change schemes or "skin"
iGo - nicest looking.. poi is better then garmin.. picks better routes.. eta time is better... no traffic it even shows buildings which is cool... it uses skins, backgrounds and map colors... highly customizable

Dr4g0n75 said:
How do you get TTS to work on igo? I have igo june 3rd release.. but no TTS..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405616
Follow instructions there on how to install.
If you are using it in North America , get the Phenomes.
It is bad ass. Dont have to look at the screen, it tells the names of the roads clearly.

ahh thanks... I saw that thread before but the links were dead... now there are some updated links... I'll try this out asap

i have tryied every gps software out there on my att tilt and there is nothing close to tomtoms coverage of maps interface is not that good but who cares. i live in area where streets are not older then 3-4 years tomtom has most of them other softwares not even that part of city. i use tomtom 7 with usa and canada 720.1802. tomtom is way to go. go test it your self get navi or garmin and tomtom with in same price range and test them in area not that popular and you will see who is the best. good luck

TrainRekS said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405616
Follow instructions there on how to install.
If you are using it in North America , get the Phenomes.
It is bad ass. Dont have to look at the screen, it tells the names of the roads clearly.
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I tried it and its acting flaky... at first it didnt work... then it started using the number instead of the name for a road.. for instance the road name was old apex road and it was also state road 1022... it would say turn on to 1022..
after that it stated working correctly... saying the road names...
now today it dosent say anything... just beeps when a turn is coming up... all this without me changing anything... just turning the program on and off... havnt installed any other software...
p.s. what do you mean by phenomes?

Dr4g0n75 said:
p.s. what do you mean by phenomes?
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hmm i guess that fourm link didnt have the phenomes , or it might be the dictionary file.

The best navigational software for the HTC Diamond

Hi all..
I want to start a threat on the best navigational software for the HTC Diamond.
This one is for the nominees the next threat will be with a poll of all nominees.
Post like me plz.
My nominees are:
1. Igo v8
2. TomTom v7
3. Sygic McGuider v7

And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...

cornwall said:
And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...
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The delay is not caused by the software. It is the way they implemented GPS in the Diamond.

what's the legal status of loading TomTom 7 on a Diamond/branded handset that does not include this
I know of someone who tried to buy maps from Tomtom - and they accused him of piracy for loading the software - took his money and closed off his access to the maps he had bought online

merrica said:
what's the legal status of loading TomTom 7 on a Diamond/branded handset that does not include this
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Easy question : illegal !
TT7 is not sold by TomTom in any way except included in some devices...
merrica said:
I know of someone who tried to buy maps from Tomtom - and they accused him of piracy for loading the software - took his money and closed off his access to the maps he had bought online
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That's pretty dumb to buy maps for a software acquired illegally.
To come back to the original question :
I can see only 2 real contenders : TT7 and Igo8. I found pros and cons on each one and cannot decide which one to use...
Other GPS software are far behind those two

The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
I have both Tomtom and Igo on my TD. Igo win hands down.

steveianson said:
The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
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Where did you see that ???????

TomTom 7 for VGA devices is sweeeeet on the Diamond. It´s lightning fast and everything looks super sharp. Installed it yesterday... great gps locks on my diamond, even indoors in seconds...

I also have both TT7 and Igo8, and I prefer Igo8. The lag on TT7 seems less though (maybe just due to the big arrow!). Igo8's UK map has directed me down a few one way streets but I really prefer the interface, it is much easier to use even as a piece of map reading software, and I find the instructions clearer, with fewer ambiguous instructions (like BEAR LEFT = TURN LEFT sometimes = go straight other times on TT7)

Howell said:
Easy question : illegal !
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Wrong!! I have TomTom 7 installed, it didnt come packaged on my device, and i sourced it from TomTom.
Also you might want to read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679 particularly the title "TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond"
If this was EXTRACTED from a HTC Diamond, it was shipped from HTC with TomTom 7 Installed!
and if you look here: http://navngo.com/pages/global/eng/news_and_press/htc_touch_eng you can read about Nav N Go WM6 compatible software
I suggest you go to both of the manufacturers websites and re-read the sections about PDA's

I -really- prefer the interface, features and visuals of IGO8 over TomTom. The problem is IGO8 has around 20M lag so I end up using TomTom.

destinator
I tried several applications in the past.
"Destinator" is the only package that works for me without problems
both on my diamond as on my other devices.
Destinator also does not have problems with all my other applications that
run in the background.

is use both Igo8 and Tomtom7. Both work fine on the diamond, except for the GPS lag (the same with Igo8 and TT7). I recently switched back from Igo8 tot TT7 because i found the screen from Igo8 too overwhelming, looks like a computergame with lots of information and colours. TT7 has more basic looks, wich on the -little (compared tot dedicated devices)- screen from the Diamond looks better. Only complaint about TT7 are the small icons for the POI's, on the Igo8 these are better visible than the TT7 ones.

cornwall said:
And please post those without the 50m delay error !
Some say that the phone is not accurate and that indications and guidance are 50m late with Tom Tom and many others...
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I have a delay, but no more than 10m and when you're driving it really doesn't matter.

i have tried various versions of both TTN7 and IGo8, ended up sticking with IGo8, mainly because of the interface. The only thing that anoys me is not being able to put in Postcodes in the UK
anyone know a answer?

bennec83 said:
Wrong!! I have TomTom 7 installed, it didnt come packaged on my device, and i sourced it from TomTom.
Also you might want to read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679 particularly the title "TomTom 7 extracted from HTC Diamond"
If this was EXTRACTED from a HTC Diamond, it was shipped from HTC with TomTom 7 Installed!
and if you look here: http://navngo.com/pages/global/eng/news_and_press/htc_touch_eng you can read about Nav N Go WM6 compatible software
I suggest you go to both of the manufacturers websites and re-read the sections about PDA's
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You should have read ALL my post : it's illegal IF NOT PRE-INSTALLED ON YOUR PHONE...
Its loaded on SOME Diamonds not ALL. If not present it's illegal to install it as TomTom does not provide it...
Please provide OFFICIAL info and link on how to get LEGAL TT7 when not shipped with phone to prove I'm wrong (and I would be glad to be wrong !!!!).

steveianson said:
The Tomtom software is free. The map cost.
I have both Tomtom and Igo on my TD. Igo win hands down.
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given the person I spoke of above - thankfully not me - no the software isn't free, or at least TomTom don't think so

AFAIK iGo is illegal on the Diamond too since it's shipped only on SD cards that will hardly be accepted by our babies.
Anyway, running fine on my XDA Diamond.

I use the Diamond for IGO8, Memory map OS and Run.GPS....
Rom. Swiftblade 7, radio 05...
Almost instant gps fix, very accurate even whilst out for a run...
Mostly used is Run.gps, then Memory map followed by IGO8 when I have to go to a meeting...

axelpix said:
AFAIK iGo is illegal on the Diamond too since it's shipped only on SD cards that will hardly be accepted by our babies.
Anyway, running fine on my XDA Diamond.
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Not really - if you bought yourself iGo on SD card and ported it over, you have purchased the rights to use that software
...unless some overly pedantic legalese prohibits shifting the files from SD card to Internal Storage

Poor Performance - iGO 8 w/TTS Enabled

Does anyone have iGO 8 with Text to Speech enabled? Does your copy run well?
I have it working, but it is SLLLOOOWWW. The UI lurches, and the voice is choppy. It is acting like the Kaiser does not have enough resources to run it properly (which may be the case). If anyone has it working well, let me know what you did to get it working well (like your SYS.TXT settings, or other).
Thanks!

iGO8 problems
I am running iGO 8.0.0.49545 flawlessly on my Tilt with HPIII M2D December
3rd ROM. I recooked the ROM, but nothing that would effect the GPS. I am running the same radio as you too. IM me if you need anything such as files.

iGO 8.0 with normal voices was always stable for me, but with Text to Speech voices it seemed to crash a LOT more.
I'm trying iGO 8.2 right now, but I can't even get TTS to work on it at all.. Plus some bugs with POI icons... I think I'll be going back.

Bump? Anyone get this working reasonably?

I am also running iGO 8.0.0.49545 flawlessly on my Tilt with HPIII M2D December. Ran with L26 Diamond B6 as well. Here is what I found:
After first installing IGO8, it would go through my contacts (I have 400+) and try to geocache the addresses or something like that. While this was happening, it was mad slow, very choppy. Just let it run for as long as it takes to pop up a 'warning' like 'geocaching complete, failed to import x of y, do you want to see errors?'
It might not be called geocaching, but it is something very similar.
I can't guarantee that is the issue, but it worked for me.

I have the iGO8 running pretty good on my Kaiser, the only problem is that the voice seems to be small, at least smaller than what I saw on Garmin XT or Tomtom 7. Does anyone have any suggestion about this?

motocrossmann said:
Bump? Anyone get this working reasonably?
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I tested TTS on OCN8 (aka iGO8) for PocketPCThoughts just a few months ago. Yes, it was very slow and frequently got itself very screwed up on directions -- correcting itself halfway through, dropping the remainder of a direction, etc.
I eventually just removed it. The 2.1 voices are much smoother.

drtolson said:
...it was very slow and frequently got itself very screwed up on directions -- correcting itself halfway through, dropping the remainder of a direction...
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Exactly the problem I'm having. I wish TomTom would support Navigator 7 for Kaiser.

I just installed the non-TTS voices personally. Although since I updated to 8.3, iGO8 takes about twice as long to startup now. Not sure why.

khaytsus said:
I just installed the non-TTS voices personally. Although since I updated to 8.5, iGO8 takes about twice as long to startup now. Not sure why.
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8.5 ????? what ????
we have igo 8.5 ?????

omek07 said:
8.5 ????? what ????
we have igo 8.5 ?????
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erm, sorry, I meant 8.3.

IGO 8 ??
and is there any links where we can download the IGO 8 ??
can someone share this
.PM if to sensitive

I am using Igo 8.3 and have been using 8.0 before.
I have stability issues with both versions (freeze/lockup/reboot) that i cannot seem to solve.
Using Dutty's Diamond rom and 1.65.16.25 radio.
Hard reset and only igo installed still has the same problems.
Anyone know what could cause the problem?

Any working GPS software with Diamond2?

Hi,
I have a new Touch Diamond2, lovely device! (previously had TYTN, TYTN II and Touch Pro).
Anyways, i bought CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond. Eventually got it installed but i couldnt get past the Tips and Tricks startup screen since the buttons were 'off screen' because of the new resolution of the Diamond2. Also, a lot of icons and buttons missing when i finally got it going, so i guess CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond is not quite compatible with Diamond2! (there seems to be a CoPilot7 Live HD version comming soon, maybe that will be of help).
Also tried my old reliable TomTom6, that didnt work, kept crashing the phone on initial installation startup.
TomTom7 didnt fare much better, the .cab i used resulted in a 'This software is not intended for this device', or words to that effect.
Has anyone got any GPS software (preferably legit versions) working properly on the Diamond2?
Also, if anyone got the TomTom7 working, which cab version did they use? Hopefully i can use my old TomTom6 maps with it.
Thanks
M

Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505819
TT 7 works bit has still some problems with the voices.

iGO 8.3.2 PDA version working without any problems!!!!

I've got the vanilla version of CoPilot on my TD2 and it seems to work fine except some parts of the UI are stretched a little. It all works fine though. See attached shots.

@jlp_svk
Nice to know, but how did you managed that igo 8 works fine?
I am tryin it a few days, maybe I am to stupid.
I got 2 folders 2 2577 and igo8. Copied both to sd and then I found language folder, buildings and so on in contend empty.
Can you give me a little advice. Thanks.

andyturner said:
I've got the vanilla version of CoPilot on my TD2 and it seems to work fine except some parts of the UI are stretched a little. It all works fine though. See attached shots.
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Hi,
Good to see someone got CoPilot working. May try and get a refund on the Touch Diamond version and get the 'normal' one which you have. Better still, if the supplier has this HD version, that would be the best for TD2.

My phone came with Route66 included and it works just fine.
cheers

Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20 City Navigator Europe 2009 - Tested and Working
Automapa 5.3.0 - Tested and Working

If you get in touch with the Co-Pilot customer support people, they will send you D2 compatible CoPilot.
mgumbs said:
Hi,
I have a new Touch Diamond2, lovely device! (previously had TYTN, TYTN II and Touch Pro).
Anyways, i bought CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond. Eventually got it installed but i couldnt get past the Tips and Tricks startup screen since the buttons were 'off screen' because of the new resolution of the Diamond2. Also, a lot of icons and buttons missing when i finally got it going, so i guess CoPilot 7 for Touch Diamond is not quite compatible with Diamond2! (there seems to be a CoPilot7 Live HD version comming soon, maybe that will be of help).
Also tried my old reliable TomTom6, that didnt work, kept crashing the phone on initial installation startup.
TomTom7 didnt fare much better, the .cab i used resulted in a 'This software is not intended for this device', or words to that effect.
Has anyone got any GPS software (preferably legit versions) working properly on the Diamond2?
Also, if anyone got the TomTom7 working, which cab version did they use? Hopefully i can use my old TomTom6 maps with it.
Thanks
M
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any working GPS with D2? There's plenty of them! Right now I'm testing iGo, Navigon, Garmin and Route 66, all of them working flawlessly

For all those are not satis with tomtom and clipping voice I can confirm that
IGO8 8.3.2.80621 PDA ist running perfect on D2.
Very goog gps reception and nice picture with TTS and 3D Picture.
My recomendation!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Navigon 7 ....
needs some changes but also works on Topaz......
Cheers
Michael

Garmin is OK.

Hey guys,
Thanks for all your advice and opinions on what software works with the Diamond2, good thing about the thread is that others new to the phone can benefit from this too
ALK, makers of CoPilot have given me a copy of the HD edition so hopefully that will run on the Diamond2 ok. I also installed Route 66 v7 and Garmin XT5 for the time being, they both work fine.
M

Hi,
I have also no GPS signal with my Touch Diamond 2. But I don't have TomTom, IGo or something else. I just want to get the GPS signal to use in QuickGPS. But there is no signal at all. Does anyone know why?
And where can I configure the internal GPS antenna? Is that possible?
For testing I downloaded and installed odgps (outdoor gps), but it get's also no signal. In odgps I have configured COM4 with Baudrate 9600. But no signal. Does anyone know how I have to configure GPS programs to get them work (as said, I cannot find a screen to get or set the configuration of the internal GPS antenna).
Could a hard reset help (as for the old Touch Diamond)? I would like to avoid that due to the destruction of the data...
Thanks in advance for your help and best regards,
B.

Garmin's GMXT runs well on the TD2. Only problem noted so far is that the GPS signal strength (green vertical bars) does not work - even after a sat lock is achieved.

jchoong said:
Garmin's GMXT runs well on the TD2. Only problem noted so far is that the GPS signal strength (green vertical bars) does not work - even after a sat lock is achieved.
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Is there an alternative to GMXT?? I find it runs too slow for my liking (when I do browse map) I'd rather something like google maps style but can use offline. Tried using tracky but couldn't figure out how the hell to use it.

rodgauman said:
For all those are not satis with tomtom and clipping voice I can confirm that
IGO8 8.3.2.80621 PDA ist running perfect on D2.
Very goog gps reception and nice picture with TTS and 3D Picture.
My recomendation!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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I have iGo 8.3 working on my Diamond 2 but I'm *really* unhappy about navigation speed. I thought, at first, that it was slow because of the screen size and resolution, but doing a preview on a route shows it can animate the screen more than quick enough.
Screen refresh only seems slow during live GPS navigation which leads me to think that it's this "GPS lag" that I've something only a little about.
Can anyone fill me in on it? Does it affect the Diamond 2? Are there any remedies or are some apps more affected by it?
I love my Diamond 2 but this is letting it down somewhat...

Google maps worked fine for me as well.

viaGPS 3.0 black edition works as well...