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Diamond owners - would you buy it again?

Looking for a new device, and the Diamond seems a great candidate. I'm not too worried about the battery issue, but I am worried about typing, since I'm used to having a HW KB.
The thing is, I'm sick and tired of big devices, and the Diamond seems small and nice.
If you answered against the Diamond, please explain why.
Thanks a lot for your time.

took me a while to get used to, having been using a tytn II for a couple of years. but now i'm just about as comfortable with the OSK as I was with the hardware one.

I love the Diamond and for your reasons, size being the main one, then the Diamond would be perfect.
However, im used to an Ameo, (HTC Advantage) which is Huuuuuuuuge! That was too big for me, but it seems that the Touch HD is a compromise between the two. Perfect!
I dont wish that I hadnt purchased the Diamond but if id known the Touch HD was coming out I probably would of waited a while. I do love everything about the Diamond tho, it really is a sleek, sexy device and it does everything I want and need it to.
Will see what the Touch HD brings

I would never buy the Diamond, even if there were the same devices available like before.
The screen is too smal for the Resolution, the Touch HD will solve this problem.
The keyboard due to it's small size is not so usable.
I am a fan of the i780, but the screen resolution is still too less, i would expect that a combination of 480x640 and keyboard would make it perfect.
Regards,
Luís

i think the main problem is WM.
it's a great device but like others [omnia, touch pro, hd, x1] WM is slow, buggy, stupid.
I really wish that Android will work on Diamond.

HTC Touch Pro
Have you not looked at the Raphael....complete with HW keyboard, larger battery, and MicroSD
Its only a little larger and it looks like it has your name written on it

I love the diamond, the only problem I get is the battery but I buyed the official extended battery and is perfect
528mhz + wifi + gps + small device + beuty device = all I need

Great phone
I have had experince of Vario II, played some with the IPhone. In general the Compact IV
is not (I havent updated the original T-Mobile rom) that sluggish many reviewers suggest. At least it works fine for me, and is similar to my Vario II (that run WM 6.1).
Its WM so can install loads cool free softwares. Had some issues I brought up on the forum here, but all in all - great phone.

I would ve buy Pro due to battery. I use WM a lot during the day and stock battery is a bad joke.
Typing is ok with compact qwerty and other soft keyboards u can choose from
Why not just buy Diamond and replace battery?
Cos with Pro u will get larger battery, leather case and desktop charger for only few bucks/eur more.
I dont mind the sd card cos 4gb Diamond built in mem is enough for me.
Having the option to change cards (one for bussines data, one for holidays pictures) seems like interresting option but not essential.
With WM 6.1 I dont need the laptop anymore to work outside the office. Problem is... that it dies after 5 hours of mailing, exceling, or filling online forms.
I dont want to use advantage due its size, so definately Touch PRO unless htc will not amaze me with some new biz oriented and tiny device.

There is nothing out there that comes close to squeezing all the toys into such a small device.
Gripes about screen size and battery life are completely irrelevant if keeping size to a minimum is important... and working around these issues really is easy... lopping off 10 or 20mm here and there isn't!
So finally, if you're happy about WM, (where IMHO the big divide on whether a user will be a Diamond lover or hater), then it's a no brainer for you I reckon.

first thing I did with my diamond after I got It was flash it to SwiftBL v6.5 after the updated came I put in SwiftBL v7 16mbpp, changed the way tf3d icons look and put in s2p and s2u2 and now Its perfect I get people amazed what the phone can do and showed them this website after that I got 3 of my friends interested on buying a HTC Diaomond which 2 of them already havethey loved it so much that they switched carriers just to get the GSM diamond. so I say again Diamond is perfect for me. Im buying another Diamond for my wife

In my humble opinion the Diamond is as near to perfect as possible at the moment.
I too was hesitant about moving away from a proper keyboard, but having used the Diamond's on screen it really makes no difference (to me).
I do however rely on SBP Mobile Shell...I would be lost without that, however that would apply to any phone.

i would buy it again, but if the touch hd was out i'd get that instead

Yes. Easily the best device I have used.
It may not be as user friendly as iPhone, but it's size and functionality are fantastic.
I was sceptical about it before it arrived from Orange, as I was thinking about iPhone. But after 5 minutes, I was convinced.

I also found it took a while to get used to my Diamond. Mainly because of the touch typing of text messages (cant be doing with the stylus aaaall the time).....I also however am loving the fact that I can run all my apps, Tomtom, etc...and as my first proper ppc im impressed.
Only a couple of issues though.
1. I wish it didnt hang as much (But Im currently looking into the ROM side of things, all new to me).
2. I wish the camera had a flash (However I do swap to my Cybershot if im out on the town)
3. I wish the sound quality wa much better for speaker and headphone playback.
They probly do seem quite big issues to most, But i o still love the diamond it looks flash as F**k.
Jon

Diamond is PERFECT because it's SMALL, very small.
The battery isn't a problem (in a car or at pc can be easily recharged, i've always a very short miniusb cable with me)
and the keyboard, if you need, can be an IR projected keyboard (make more scene!! )
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I love the Diamond, even though it's a EU and I'm in Canada and don't get 3G, it's not the end of the world, there are plenty of wifi spots. The battery could be better, but like most techno geeks, I have chargers everywhere. Could use a keyboard as in the Pro, but I have one of those IR keyboards for long typing sessions...my biggest problem is screen size. I love the VGA screen, but I like real estate (my eyes aren't what they used to be), the bigger the better. So, I will wait for the HD and sell my precious Diamond to someone who probably won't work, play and tweak it like I love to do.

i would buy HD, but since my diamond got stolen i had choice to get moneys or new diamond, so I took new diamond. Couldnt just wait for HD to come
love Diamond, but HD has so nice screen and camera cant say diamond isnt great anyway

Battery life sucks, but..
You know.. i think im going to buy the official extended battery but its just amazing that that tiny battery lights up the screen, wifi, 3g, GPS and if you dont use it TOO INTENSIVE it will stay till the next day, and it'll be 30/40% ..
I every day check my mail, the weather, some websites, MSN Messenger play with GM or TOMTOM andthe battery life is now 60% ...
If you want to buy it so you'd have a little office in your pocket you really should buy an extended battery!

I came from a tytn to diamond. I loved the keyboard on my tytn, but I was sick of lugging around all the extra weight, and running out of pockets for it to fit into. The diamond is a dream to carry, and it looks fantastic. The screen is beautiful. I protect it with a cheap flip leather case, which looks surprisingly good and has a hole for the camera. This also minimises phantom key presses when the phone is in my pocket. I have the mda compact iv version, which is a prettier than the diamond, and I'm still running the much maligned stock ROM (for warranty purposes) - I find it ok. I love the diamond, and am secure in the knowledge that flashing a new ROM, or even running android on it in the fullness of time, will provide a nearly perfect phone experience.
It would be wrong to underestimate the advantages of a compact easily pocketable phone, and it's transformed my ease of use compared with my tytn. The on screen keyboard is fine for my purposes (although it's sometimes a little annoying when it hides the box that you are currently typing into - particularly if it's a password box, and you don't get the feedback of seeing the letter appear as you press the button).
I wouldn't go back, and although the specs of the HD are alluring, I would personally choose the convenience of the diamond size over it. In fact I may well ultimately have both, as the diamond is my work phone, and I may choose the HD for personal use - as long as an android port materialises (apart from the absence of a compass I think it's what the G1 should have been). I have bought ten diamonds for use on our work contract. I have not had a single substantive complaint from any of my users. All are on the stock t-mobile ROM.

"Sorry, no 6.5 For You!"

Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Old news We already have on some of our phones
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like that would stop us any how LOL

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Too bad for who? I am already running Anrly's WM6.5 on my phone, and let me tell you it rocks!

XDA the place miracles can happen

stylez said:
XDA the place miracles can happen
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..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?

Nylo said:
..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?
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Lol can you please look in ROM section

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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...you really thought that HTC would do that!? If you thought that you were a dreamer! They like to sell new phones and not an old phone like the Kaiser

Windows Mobile 6.5 works on QVGA?
Out of interest, are any of the devices that will 'officially' be running Windows Mobile 6.5 QVGA? From what I see, the versions of 6.5 cooked into ROMS here are tweaked to fit on the smaller 320x240 screen - but the Touch Diamond 2 and Pro 2 are both WVGA devices with an 800x460 screen resolution aren't they?
If the 'proper' version of 6.5 is designed to work on VGA devices or better only, it's not surprising that HTC aren't planning on offering upgrades to older devices that don't support the higher resolutions. Sure, it can be made to work on older handsets - but not in the way Microsoft probably envisioned for their new release...
I might be wrong and I have my asbestos "flame-proof" jacket on, so I'm ready for the backlash

Actually, Microsoft has said that it will allow official upgrades on current 6.1 devices as long as they have a 400mhz processor and 128mb ram (plus the windows start key). The Kaiser meets all of those requirements, so it is eligible for an upgrade, but that would be at the discretion of HTC/carriers. I doubt that we will ever see an official upgrade due to the age of the Kaiser, but you never know.
More importantly, though, is whether it even matters. Do we even need an official 6.5 for the Kaiser to build off of, or can we do an equal/better job with the dumped 6.5 roms already being ported to our phone? I guess that would be a question I would put to our chefs out there.

Would it really be an 'upgrade' though if HTC provided it?
If the HTC Official WWE WM 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II is anything to go by, I'd run a mile from any HTC provided WM 6.5 release for the TyTN II anyway. Apart from the fact there were so many bugs in the official WM 6.1 upgrade when compared to the relatively stable WM 6.0, it's clear from HTCs continual refusal to provide full (not partial) graphics driver support for even much newer devices, that they don't learn lessons from the past (or if they do, they don't act on them).
Given the TyTN IIs age now, I suspect if there was a further upgrade to come even the apprentice programmers' time would be considered to valuable for such a task and GPS, graphics performance and things like screen flashes when coming out of standby (all things still not fixed after nearly a year since the first WM 6.1 upgrade was released) would take a very low priority. I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots

Flying Kiwi said:
...I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots
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Wow, HTC Leopard? I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser - can't wait to try the Leopard

Paulplex said:
I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser
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I hope people don't misinterpret what I wrote, I believe the TyTN II was groundbreaking in its day and it certainly offered the right combination of features that other devices didn't have together in the one package. The problem is that there are a number of inexactitudes when comparing the actual device with all the advertising that was out for the device when first released (what I relied on for my purchase decision). Both advertiising from HTC and from Qualcomm the chip maker. Since then I've seen no indication that HTC is interested in maximising all the potential in this device to try and live up to those advertising claims and if anything their UK released ROM upgrade for my device actualy makes it worse. It's a sad state of affairs where a buggy 'upgrade' still hasn't been fixed nearly a year later and I'm fed up with sending letters to HTC which aren't listened to (not to mention the thousands of online petition signatories requesting full driver support for the embedded hardware actually on the device).
As someone who has worked as a computer technician I can tell you it is truely scandalous to release a product complete with an OS that doesn't have full driver support for embedded graphics acceleration and any full sized PC provider would not get away with it. Not only then but also the fact they haven't since come along with an update to address these concerns - hence my lack of faith in this company.

I would assume HTC's refusal to release system drivers would have to do with NDA's they signed with the various component manufacturers. I'm also relatively new to the world of XDA (but not winmo), so I would assume that this topic has been discussed to death on this site before.
@Flying Kiwi: I only had the Hermes for three weeks before I found a kickin deal on a Kaiser, but I have to agree it was a good phone. However, the upgrade to the Kaiser from the Hermes was worth the little extra I paid, if only for the gps and increased ram.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone else find Age of Empires to be incredibly addictive on a PDA?

Windows CE User Interface on Blackstone ?

Since Windows Mobile is based on Windows CE 5 and the resolution is 800x480, is it possible to get the UI of WinCE working on the Blackstone ?
With start menu and such things like Windows XP.
Thanx anyway
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Probably a better idea to ask in the Blackstone rom forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=453
But at I guess I think the answer is... In principle yes...
People have ported parts of other roms to the blackstone
have a look into how they achieved it

This is posible/notposible.
There was/is a developement on the Xperia forum.
Windows CE did show up, but when trying to boot the GUI it freezed all the time.
Probably cause of memory or whatsoever....
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490180

xmoo said:
This is posible/notposible.
There was/is a developement on the Xperia forum.
Windows CE did show up, but when trying to boot the GUI it freezed all the time.
Probably cause of memory or whatsoever....
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490180
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Hi Xmoo, Hope all's well
the original poster is after windws ce (WINCE)
not windows 3 / dos
which should save on emulation or crosss coding
as long as the're after wince v5 the porting should be minimal
I read somewhere about requests for wince 6.1
but U think that got no where

with the non free non public only manufactor program platform builder it could happen
and I've tried devices which ran on win ce 5 and it's the most finger unfriendly thing in the world
and even if it looks more like normal windows all apps you run are still the way they are
on pocketpc
not a good path plus ce don't natively support phone so it would end up as an incompable barstad ½ windows mobile ½ windows ce

Thanx for the answers allready.
i use Remote desktop on my Blackstone and it looks awesome that is why i wanted to use WinCE .

another problem with ce is that you start progs by doubleclik
and you can also move progs and shortcuts by dragging
and in most cases when you try and start programs you drag them too
makes for a very confusing desktop fast

Rudegar said:
another problem with ce is that you start progs by doubleclik
and you can also move progs and shortcuts by dragging
and in most cases when you try and start programs you drag them too
makes for a very confusing desktop fast
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that sounds bad but do you think it is possible to have the UI working on a windows mobile device ?

yes as I say in my first post it's theoretically possible

Xerox Parc
Does anybody really want this?
I've been working on and off on VJSihaya, but recently kind of talked myself out of the usefulness of it... These days, everyone wants finger friendly interfaces.
VJSihaya on the Blackstone looks beautiful, but you've got to be very much in the mood for pixel/2pixel accuracy, eg for window resizing etc. I don't find that difficult, and I also plan to implement some helpful UI tricks to get around this, eg the interface zoom that can be seen in VJVirtualMouseWinFX, but ultimately, although the Desktop OS style interface looks novel on a phone, is it really helpful on a 3-4inch screen?
I personally love using VJSihaya, it's great for multitasking, but I think I'm the kind of guy that actually prefers the stylus, except when I'm making babies, smoking and drinking smoothies all at the same time, in which case a fat finger interface helps (so she tells me )
VJSihaya on Blackstone:
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VJVirtualMouseWinFX interface zoom:
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V

vijay555 said:
I've been working on and off on VJSihaya, but recently kind of talked myself out of the usefulness of it... These days, everyone wants finger friendly interfaces.
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I don't think it is useless, I personally would love it!

Would you please stop talking about this stuff and just relase it already?
Also, can you ensure it will work on WM2003 and plain Windows CE 4.2/5.0 devices? It may be even more useful on those. Especially with all these WinCE netbooks based on the nvidia tegra platform that are coming out. It would certainly be useful on a large netbook screen.

vijay I honestly, honestly love it, please release it! If nothing else there might be 10EU in it!

If you build it...
The GUI parts of VJSihaya work on all versions of Windows Mobile/Pocket PC (even the old ones), but unfortunately the more OS-y stuff, like bluetooth connnections, wifi toggling etc, is currently WM5+ compatible only, because WM5 unified control of some of this stuff and supporting older PPC3 generation hardware requires per device tinkering.
A release version, if and when it ever comes, will probably be component-ised so that people can run the GUI without having to run the non compatible parts.
However, a fairly big breakthrough I had a few months back (Twitter), which has held back VJSihaya for a long time, has yet to be tested for compatibility with WM6.5. I'm only slowly getting myself into WM6.5 as I'm waiting for a final rom, I'm still having some incompatibilities with the current "pre-release" roms
As some of you may know, I'm going to be finding myself with a good deal more time on my hands shortly [anybody want to hire a Lawyer who knows a lot about computers, or vice versa, to do WM consulting, coding, or general whoring?], so hopefully VJSihaya can finally expose her jubblies (do non-English English speakers know what that means?).
I still maintain though - do you really want a teeny tiny but sexy looking GUI? I strongly recommend anyone who thinks that they do download one of my screenshots and "try" it out on real hardware, to see what it really entails. It looks nice, but it's not thumb friendly! It's a huge amount of work to develop something that's just going to be a pretty gimmick but ultimately not very useful!
It should also be noted, that the above mentioned tweet heralds quite a few new GUI innovations that will make their way into VJSihaya and probably some other specifically thumb friendly GUI replacements. So my "downer" on VJSihaya is not all bad news.
V
PS TFGBD: I see you have a Casio BE. Did you by any chance every download any of the shell replacements based on the older Kernels, that came with source code? I've tried finding them for years, but never got them.

vijay555 said:
The GUI parts of VJSihaya work on all versions of
PS TFGBD: I see you have a Casio BE. Did you by any chance every download any of the shell replacements based on the older Kernels, that came with source code? I've tried finding them for years, but never got them.
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I assume you mean stuff like Dic's BEshell which is basically a clone of the Pocket PC shell including aygshell rewritten from scratch. Amazing guy, that Dic. Sadly, I don't think he ever released the source code. :/ I tried to contact him years ago but the email listed in his aygshell was bouncing. It seems like he fell off the face of the earth.
May I ask why you are interested?

It is very possible:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/03/08/CE-5-Explorer-is-getting-there-Really!.aspx
dwizzy130

MOD EDIT
Moved to rom development forum

vijay555 said:
Does anybody really want this?
I've been working on and off on VJSihaya, but recently kind of talked myself out of the usefulness of it... These days, everyone wants finger friendly interfaces.
VJSihaya on the Blackstone looks beautiful, but you've got to be very much in the mood for pixel/2pixel accuracy, eg for window resizing etc. I don't find that difficult, and I also plan to implement some helpful UI tricks to get around this, eg the interface zoom that can be seen in VJVirtualMouseWinFX, but ultimately, although the Desktop OS style interface looks novel on a phone, is it really helpful on a 3-4inch screen?
I personally love using VJSihaya, it's great for multitasking, but I think I'm the kind of guy that actually prefers the stylus, except when I'm making babies, smoking and drinking smoothies all at the same time, in which case a fat finger interface helps (so she tells me )
VJSihaya on Blackstone:
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WANT!

It is possible to run Win 95 on a ppc.
I can't post the link here, but if you're interested just post a reply and i will send a link..

Jerbo said:
It is possible to run Win 95 on a ppc.
I can't post the link here, but if you're interested just post a reply and i will send a link..
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Reply...

thoughts

ten chars!!!

was an interesting read....and i feel i've been through the same cycle! one very distinct feeling is why the device doesnt behave the way its defined on paper. with all the specs, the galaxy s should literally be flying, but somehow isnt the case.....its most probably the file system, or who knows could be lack of optimization from samsung's side on the drivers or adaptation.
Froyo update comes with a load of expectations and i must say im not as excited as i hoped to be with the leaked builds. they seem very mediocre in terms of what was expected. seems more like a features update build rather than a build aimed at really "stepping up the game" by bringing in some real optimizations and performance enhancements.
anyway, only time will tell and i hope samsung will do a good job in keeping this huge fanbase that they've created happy!

I have the same feeling with you my friend only a little bit worse.
I'm almost disappointed from my decision in buying this phone. My previous phones were HTC diamond and HTC HD2 which I still have and apart from the screen which is obviously better in galaxy s, android and the processor everything else is worse compared with HD2 and if you see here the first video for desire HD I believe you will also have the same feeling.
The software that comes with galaxy S is very poor and even useless (worse than OEM). I have the phone for a month now and I have deleted nearly everything that samsung has to offer and still haven't decided what widgets to put in my screen. Wouldn't have this problem with HTC sense.
Another thing that I'm very disappointed and I don't see anyone talking about it is the crappy camera which although the video is very good, when you try to take a picture (in good light conditions) and zoom a little bit on that picture you'll see that picture quality is very low and you could only compare it to a 2MP picture. (Its the worse camera I've ever seen, even diamond with 3,2MP camera took better pictures).
Also I can't believe that a multi national corporation like samsung cannot come up with a fix for the GPS and get rid of RFS. I'm using now JPH and I can tell you that lagfix is a must. (I think they don't care)
I new that samsung's phones (look Omnia and Omnia 2) were not to good softwarewise, but I bought this phone because I had no other choice as I could not compare it to desire at that time. Now I think it would be better if I bought desire.
This is definitely the only samsung phone I'll ever own and won't bother to look again in what samsung has to offer even if it had a quad core processor.
I hope I was not too boring and if someone has a different opinion I would love to hear it.

it took 6 weeks to get my phone back from repair >.<
In my case I started off needing a new phone badly, as in Now! immediately, as my last HTC phone was on its last legs, the fault was not hardware but Windows Mobile, I just couldn't stand the crap any more.
So, I decided I'll bodly go where no human under the reign of Microsoft has gone before, and found HTC Desire it was all cool and nice, until i started to see the huge list of defects and all the bugs it had, it felt like a mirage in a desert..
Meanwhile searching for bugs fixes and ways to patch up the HTC Desire i came up to this sweeeeeeet review comparison of Desire vs. Galaxy S (all links on my siggy), and i simply ran back to the store and demanded an exchange and i grabbed the Galaxy S. it was the i9000 UK model (3 button working), it was on its early incarnation of crappy ROMs, but the ROM "releases" leaked ROM we so often that it kept me fun and entertained for a few weeks, the GPS was not a total disaster, it at least was able to get a lock under 30sec accuracy was horrible though, with each passing firmware seemed it got better, then Bell Canada announced a NAM version of the SGS i couldn't be happier, quickly i setup a local Ad to sell the UK version, and picked up the Galaxy S Vibrant i9000m, joy joy joy
Because now i can get 3G every where, with the UK version i was only getting 3G on surface level or places close to windows.
Unfortunately a bad trade off, to my dismay i found this unit had the 3 buttons disabled, and that week was leaked the Froyo firmware, and i decided to flash it even with the 3 button disabled phone.... "i have a feeling" (BEP).... and yeap surely enough my guts were right, the damn flash pouched and it failed, and i got the horrible phone-!-pc screen looking at me.
nothing i could do, so i had to return the phone the 2nd day it was released they ran out of new units, as it was the 2nd day of the launch day in Canada, and i did not see it until 6 weeks later.
before i killed it with froyo i did get a chance to play around a bit with the GPS on JG9 and it was waaaay better than the UK version of the phone accuracy was pretty close, it was not jumping all over the place, that was a huge improvement from my point of view.
so after sending my brand new 1 day old SGS back to repair, i had to fall back to my arch nemesis HTC running Microsoft demons... 3 days later i got fed up again and set myself on a new quest and hit every single store carrying the Bell SGS, and testing every phone i was able to and finally after the 5th day i found a unit that had the 3 buttons enable.
bought it right away, ran home quickly upgraded it to JH2 and unlocked it... it was a major relieve.
and since then i've been reaping in the rewards and now i have over 410+ apps installed according to my AppBrain Sync account.
and i learned to keep the bootup process, first thing i did was to remove the media scan
then each time i installed a new app i'll open my Boot manager app and kill anything new added to the boot list
just doing that alone, it was enough to keep the phone running stock without the need of the much feared One Click Lag fix, which i've been reading it's causing more problem than what it solves specially for people running the Vibrant models.
GPS in JH2 was magnificent it gets quick locks in 5~10 sec vs. 10~30 sec on JG9 accuracy is about the same, depends on weather/area and also the sampling rate configure to use on the GPS app.
So in the irony of things this is the first phone that have ever lived up to my expectations.
i can really be in a conversation in middle of a street, some one would ask me something, and i can now easily pull out the answer from the SGS in seconds, browsing is so quick and fast, apps are fast, everything i need to look up runs as soon as i click it.
this is what mobile information is supposed to be, available immediately at your fingertips.
the camera is awesome, takes great picture in day and night, my old HTC phones picture quality were not as good.
and the best thing is i can truely work mobile now, i can have all my 10+ IM accounts online 7+ emails accounts active, lots of great apps for scheduling and alerts
and i can remote in to office/home/clients via RDP and VNC and FTP and SSH and whatever else they happens to be running and do my work from any where i happen to be standing by.
Oh! best of all, i can now be all the time on XDA on my favorite browser... still not used to the XDA App it's not as natural
Good job Samsung
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I'm not affiliated in any way or manner with Samsung or Bell or anybody else, i was not one of the lucky one that got the free phone, i actually quite pissed they took 6 weeks to repair my first phone, and making my purchase a 2nd phone.
but that was Bell fault not Samsung, but Samsung is at fault too for listening to Bell and disabling the 3 button mode to prevent us from unlocking the phone and rooting the phone
which by the way we only did it in 3 weeks time, it serves you right Bell

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Is flash coming with Mango?

Hello my friends !
Anyone knows if flash feature is coming with mango?
Thank you
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highly doubtful since they are going all about HTML5 video on the web which is better in many ways.
but flash, your better off asking adobe for that answer.
hey maybe since so many API's are going to be released with mango maybe someone will make a plug-in for internet explorer or maybe also make a browser app that comes included with flash allready.
but with flash on the phone you really only want to use it with videos and some vids allready work on the phone since you have youtube for those type of videos, or you can do like i do sometimes.
i watch some revision3 videos and they have links to download the videos and i tap on the download on the video and it plays it automatically.
it briefly shows cannot download file for less than a sec. then it plays the video like any other video.

I would need flash not for playing video but to use websites flash made
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Adobe has confirmed that Flash will be coming to WP7. The main question is when. Probably after Mango as right now IE doesn't have plug-in support & HOPEFULLY that'll come with Mango. Just Google "Adobe Flash WP7" & you'll see multiple articles stating this.

Thank you i will check google
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It amazes me that people still go on about Flash on smartphones. Everyone slagged off Apple for not doing it on the iPhone but they have been proven right because Adobe have never released a version that runs well, even four years later.
If you really want Flash, get an Android phone and watch it go all slow and laggy when you hit a page with Flash content. It's just not worth the hassle.

BlitterTwisted said:
It amazes me that people still go on about Flash on smartphones. Everyone slagged off Apple for not doing it on the iPhone but they have been proven right because Adobe have never released a version that runs well, even four years later.
If you really want Flash, get an Android phone and watch it go all slow and laggy when you hit a page with Flash content. It's just not worth the hassle.
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I've never had a problem on an android phone with flash. Never had any lag what so ever. As long as the phone has the hardware to run it, it will not lag. This includes flash enabled websites. I had an HD2 and a MT4G with flash and they ran just fine with no lag on flash videos or flash enabled websites. And the HD7 has the hardware and capability to run flash and flash enabled content just fine without any lag.

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I've never had a problem on an android phone with flash. Never had any lag what so ever.
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Lmfao! The whole OS is littered with lag, especially the browser. Flash only makes it worse. Android is fast but not fluid which are two very different things, and when you compare it to iOS or WP7, it doesn't compare. Once I experienced the fluidity of Windows Phone, I knew I would never look back to Android again. As for flash within IE9/10 that's a good question and Microsoft said they have no immediate plans to support it but the majority of that responsibility really lies on Adobe so... As far as is currently known, there is no support coming for it. What I'd like to know is; would there be any adverse effects on browser performance like on Android.

Flash doesnt load on android anymore =]
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Lmfao! The whole OS is littered with lag, especially the browser. Flash only makes it worse. Android is fast but not fluid which are two very different things, and when you compare it to iOS or WP7, it doesn't compare. Once I experienced the fluidity of Windows Phone, I knew I would never look back to Android again. As for flash within IE9/10 that's a good question and Microsoft said they have no immediate plans to support it but the majority of that responsibility really lies on Adobe so... As far as is currently known, there is no support coming for it. What I'd like to know is; would there be any adverse effects on browser performance like on Android.
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Again, I'll say that I never had any lag with Android when I had it on the HD2 I had or on the MT4G I had. And they where both fast and lag free. Maybe because I used custom builds of Android that were built to be fast and lag free. Yes stock Android on most devices does have lag, even on the MT4G but once you root it and use a custom build that has all the junk removed, then it becomes fast and lag free. I'm not saying it's better than WP7 as I own a HD7, I like both for Android and WP7, I'm just saying that each os has it's pros and cons. So with that being said, if you have a good solid stable build of Android, then it doesn't lag with flash. And yes, only Adobe knows when they will have flash ready for WP7, so until then, we'll just have to be patient.

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Again, I'll say that I never had any lag with Android when I had it on the HD2 I had or on the MT4G I had. And they where both fast and lag free. Maybe because I used custom builds of Android that were built to be fast and lag free. Yes stock Android on most devices does have lag, even on the MT4G but once you root it and use a custom build that has all the junk removed, then it becomes fast and lag free. I'm not saying it's better than WP7 as I own a HD7, I like both for Android and WP7, I'm just saying that each os has it's pros and cons. So with that being said, if you have a good solid stable build of Android, then it doesn't lag with flash. And yes, only Adobe knows when they will have flash ready for WP7, so until then, we'll just have to be patient.
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No lag ever? Good for you. I used to have a Droid running CM7 and one day just got fed up with having to tweak everything to get it the way I wanted so much so that I was in recovery mode probably more than actually using it as a phone. It still lagged but I guess you could chock that one up to aged hardware, anyways I ended up throwing it at the wall hard enough to break the screen and the rest of the phone along with it and pretty much just said **** Android and **** Google they obviously don't know how to listen to their followers as people have been asking for some form of hardware acceleration to aid the lag since I don't know how long. Having to resort to custom ROMs to aid an issue that should've been fixed long ago is absolutely not an enjoyable experience for the average consumer. Oh and I just remembered, since IE mobile doesn't support plug-ins (I didn't hear anything about it for IE9 either) it's still up to Microsoft...

I call BS, I had a HD2, and tried literlly every Android rom I could find, SD and NAND version, yes some ran fast, but they all lag to some extent, and the browser is allways jumpy. Not that it was unusable by compared to iOS or WP7 the browser experiance is horrible. Its capable of doing more, but at the same time it is far more frustrating to use.
ETA: Friendly Signiture you have BTW...

Watch this video at about 4:40, you can hear that there is "no flash support" from a windows phone official.
http://www.youtube.com/user/pocketnowvideo#p/u/58/EWiKP18ijxE
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SL55

SL55 said:
Watch this video at about 4:40, you can hear that there is "no flash support" from a windows phone official.
http://www.youtube.com/user/pocketnowvideo#p/u/58/EWiKP18ijxE
Regards,
SL55
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cool demo....

SL55 said:
Watch this video at about 4:40, you can hear that there is "no flash support" from a windows phone official.
http://www.youtube.com/user/pocketnowvideo#p/u/58/EWiKP18ijxE
Regards,
SL55
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Where did you here that? One guy asked, "Can you talk about Flash support?" The MS guy said, "No talk about Flash support." In other words, they didn't want to give an official statement. That is a big difference between not talking about it & saying it's not coming.
So the questions is, are we going to support Flash in IE9 for Windows Phone
We are working with Adobe, but it has not yet been decided the last time I checked--part of that is Adobe is doing what they have to do and we're doing what we have to do. The last I checked the team is working with them but I don't think they have any announcement whether it's going to definitely work or not.
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