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was an interesting read....and i feel i've been through the same cycle! one very distinct feeling is why the device doesnt behave the way its defined on paper. with all the specs, the galaxy s should literally be flying, but somehow isnt the case.....its most probably the file system, or who knows could be lack of optimization from samsung's side on the drivers or adaptation.
Froyo update comes with a load of expectations and i must say im not as excited as i hoped to be with the leaked builds. they seem very mediocre in terms of what was expected. seems more like a features update build rather than a build aimed at really "stepping up the game" by bringing in some real optimizations and performance enhancements.
anyway, only time will tell and i hope samsung will do a good job in keeping this huge fanbase that they've created happy!
I have the same feeling with you my friend only a little bit worse.
I'm almost disappointed from my decision in buying this phone. My previous phones were HTC diamond and HTC HD2 which I still have and apart from the screen which is obviously better in galaxy s, android and the processor everything else is worse compared with HD2 and if you see here the first video for desire HD I believe you will also have the same feeling.
The software that comes with galaxy S is very poor and even useless (worse than OEM). I have the phone for a month now and I have deleted nearly everything that samsung has to offer and still haven't decided what widgets to put in my screen. Wouldn't have this problem with HTC sense.
Another thing that I'm very disappointed and I don't see anyone talking about it is the crappy camera which although the video is very good, when you try to take a picture (in good light conditions) and zoom a little bit on that picture you'll see that picture quality is very low and you could only compare it to a 2MP picture. (Its the worse camera I've ever seen, even diamond with 3,2MP camera took better pictures).
Also I can't believe that a multi national corporation like samsung cannot come up with a fix for the GPS and get rid of RFS. I'm using now JPH and I can tell you that lagfix is a must. (I think they don't care)
I new that samsung's phones (look Omnia and Omnia 2) were not to good softwarewise, but I bought this phone because I had no other choice as I could not compare it to desire at that time. Now I think it would be better if I bought desire.
This is definitely the only samsung phone I'll ever own and won't bother to look again in what samsung has to offer even if it had a quad core processor.
I hope I was not too boring and if someone has a different opinion I would love to hear it.
it took 6 weeks to get my phone back from repair >.<
In my case I started off needing a new phone badly, as in Now! immediately, as my last HTC phone was on its last legs, the fault was not hardware but Windows Mobile, I just couldn't stand the crap any more.
So, I decided I'll bodly go where no human under the reign of Microsoft has gone before, and found HTC Desire it was all cool and nice, until i started to see the huge list of defects and all the bugs it had, it felt like a mirage in a desert..
Meanwhile searching for bugs fixes and ways to patch up the HTC Desire i came up to this sweeeeeeet review comparison of Desire vs. Galaxy S (all links on my siggy), and i simply ran back to the store and demanded an exchange and i grabbed the Galaxy S. it was the i9000 UK model (3 button working), it was on its early incarnation of crappy ROMs, but the ROM "releases" leaked ROM we so often that it kept me fun and entertained for a few weeks, the GPS was not a total disaster, it at least was able to get a lock under 30sec accuracy was horrible though, with each passing firmware seemed it got better, then Bell Canada announced a NAM version of the SGS i couldn't be happier, quickly i setup a local Ad to sell the UK version, and picked up the Galaxy S Vibrant i9000m, joy joy joy
Because now i can get 3G every where, with the UK version i was only getting 3G on surface level or places close to windows.
Unfortunately a bad trade off, to my dismay i found this unit had the 3 buttons disabled, and that week was leaked the Froyo firmware, and i decided to flash it even with the 3 button disabled phone.... "i have a feeling" (BEP).... and yeap surely enough my guts were right, the damn flash pouched and it failed, and i got the horrible phone-!-pc screen looking at me.
nothing i could do, so i had to return the phone the 2nd day it was released they ran out of new units, as it was the 2nd day of the launch day in Canada, and i did not see it until 6 weeks later.
before i killed it with froyo i did get a chance to play around a bit with the GPS on JG9 and it was waaaay better than the UK version of the phone accuracy was pretty close, it was not jumping all over the place, that was a huge improvement from my point of view.
so after sending my brand new 1 day old SGS back to repair, i had to fall back to my arch nemesis HTC running Microsoft demons... 3 days later i got fed up again and set myself on a new quest and hit every single store carrying the Bell SGS, and testing every phone i was able to and finally after the 5th day i found a unit that had the 3 buttons enable.
bought it right away, ran home quickly upgraded it to JH2 and unlocked it... it was a major relieve.
and since then i've been reaping in the rewards and now i have over 410+ apps installed according to my AppBrain Sync account.
and i learned to keep the bootup process, first thing i did was to remove the media scan
then each time i installed a new app i'll open my Boot manager app and kill anything new added to the boot list
just doing that alone, it was enough to keep the phone running stock without the need of the much feared One Click Lag fix, which i've been reading it's causing more problem than what it solves specially for people running the Vibrant models.
GPS in JH2 was magnificent it gets quick locks in 5~10 sec vs. 10~30 sec on JG9 accuracy is about the same, depends on weather/area and also the sampling rate configure to use on the GPS app.
So in the irony of things this is the first phone that have ever lived up to my expectations.
i can really be in a conversation in middle of a street, some one would ask me something, and i can now easily pull out the answer from the SGS in seconds, browsing is so quick and fast, apps are fast, everything i need to look up runs as soon as i click it.
this is what mobile information is supposed to be, available immediately at your fingertips.
the camera is awesome, takes great picture in day and night, my old HTC phones picture quality were not as good.
and the best thing is i can truely work mobile now, i can have all my 10+ IM accounts online 7+ emails accounts active, lots of great apps for scheduling and alerts
and i can remote in to office/home/clients via RDP and VNC and FTP and SSH and whatever else they happens to be running and do my work from any where i happen to be standing by.
Oh! best of all, i can now be all the time on XDA on my favorite browser... still not used to the XDA App it's not as natural
Good job Samsung
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I'm not affiliated in any way or manner with Samsung or Bell or anybody else, i was not one of the lucky one that got the free phone, i actually quite pissed they took 6 weeks to repair my first phone, and making my purchase a 2nd phone.
but that was Bell fault not Samsung, but Samsung is at fault too for listening to Bell and disabling the 3 button mode to prevent us from unlocking the phone and rooting the phone
which by the way we only did it in 3 weeks time, it serves you right Bell
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Looking for a new device, and the Diamond seems a great candidate. I'm not too worried about the battery issue, but I am worried about typing, since I'm used to having a HW KB.
The thing is, I'm sick and tired of big devices, and the Diamond seems small and nice.
If you answered against the Diamond, please explain why.
Thanks a lot for your time.
took me a while to get used to, having been using a tytn II for a couple of years. but now i'm just about as comfortable with the OSK as I was with the hardware one.
I love the Diamond and for your reasons, size being the main one, then the Diamond would be perfect.
However, im used to an Ameo, (HTC Advantage) which is Huuuuuuuuge! That was too big for me, but it seems that the Touch HD is a compromise between the two. Perfect!
I dont wish that I hadnt purchased the Diamond but if id known the Touch HD was coming out I probably would of waited a while. I do love everything about the Diamond tho, it really is a sleek, sexy device and it does everything I want and need it to.
Will see what the Touch HD brings
I would never buy the Diamond, even if there were the same devices available like before.
The screen is too smal for the Resolution, the Touch HD will solve this problem.
The keyboard due to it's small size is not so usable.
I am a fan of the i780, but the screen resolution is still too less, i would expect that a combination of 480x640 and keyboard would make it perfect.
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Luís
i think the main problem is WM.
it's a great device but like others [omnia, touch pro, hd, x1] WM is slow, buggy, stupid.
I really wish that Android will work on Diamond.
HTC Touch Pro
Have you not looked at the Raphael....complete with HW keyboard, larger battery, and MicroSD
Its only a little larger and it looks like it has your name written on it
I love the diamond, the only problem I get is the battery but I buyed the official extended battery and is perfect
528mhz + wifi + gps + small device + beuty device = all I need
Great phone
I have had experince of Vario II, played some with the IPhone. In general the Compact IV
is not (I havent updated the original T-Mobile rom) that sluggish many reviewers suggest. At least it works fine for me, and is similar to my Vario II (that run WM 6.1).
Its WM so can install loads cool free softwares. Had some issues I brought up on the forum here, but all in all - great phone.
I would ve buy Pro due to battery. I use WM a lot during the day and stock battery is a bad joke.
Typing is ok with compact qwerty and other soft keyboards u can choose from
Why not just buy Diamond and replace battery?
Cos with Pro u will get larger battery, leather case and desktop charger for only few bucks/eur more.
I dont mind the sd card cos 4gb Diamond built in mem is enough for me.
Having the option to change cards (one for bussines data, one for holidays pictures) seems like interresting option but not essential.
With WM 6.1 I dont need the laptop anymore to work outside the office. Problem is... that it dies after 5 hours of mailing, exceling, or filling online forms.
I dont want to use advantage due its size, so definately Touch PRO unless htc will not amaze me with some new biz oriented and tiny device.
There is nothing out there that comes close to squeezing all the toys into such a small device.
Gripes about screen size and battery life are completely irrelevant if keeping size to a minimum is important... and working around these issues really is easy... lopping off 10 or 20mm here and there isn't!
So finally, if you're happy about WM, (where IMHO the big divide on whether a user will be a Diamond lover or hater), then it's a no brainer for you I reckon.
first thing I did with my diamond after I got It was flash it to SwiftBL v6.5 after the updated came I put in SwiftBL v7 16mbpp, changed the way tf3d icons look and put in s2p and s2u2 and now Its perfect I get people amazed what the phone can do and showed them this website after that I got 3 of my friends interested on buying a HTC Diaomond which 2 of them already havethey loved it so much that they switched carriers just to get the GSM diamond. so I say again Diamond is perfect for me. Im buying another Diamond for my wife
In my humble opinion the Diamond is as near to perfect as possible at the moment.
I too was hesitant about moving away from a proper keyboard, but having used the Diamond's on screen it really makes no difference (to me).
I do however rely on SBP Mobile Shell...I would be lost without that, however that would apply to any phone.
i would buy it again, but if the touch hd was out i'd get that instead
Yes. Easily the best device I have used.
It may not be as user friendly as iPhone, but it's size and functionality are fantastic.
I was sceptical about it before it arrived from Orange, as I was thinking about iPhone. But after 5 minutes, I was convinced.
I also found it took a while to get used to my Diamond. Mainly because of the touch typing of text messages (cant be doing with the stylus aaaall the time).....I also however am loving the fact that I can run all my apps, Tomtom, etc...and as my first proper ppc im impressed.
Only a couple of issues though.
1. I wish it didnt hang as much (But Im currently looking into the ROM side of things, all new to me).
2. I wish the camera had a flash (However I do swap to my Cybershot if im out on the town)
3. I wish the sound quality wa much better for speaker and headphone playback.
They probly do seem quite big issues to most, But i o still love the diamond it looks flash as F**k.
Jon
Diamond is PERFECT because it's SMALL, very small.
The battery isn't a problem (in a car or at pc can be easily recharged, i've always a very short miniusb cable with me)
and the keyboard, if you need, can be an IR projected keyboard (make more scene!! )
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I love the Diamond, even though it's a EU and I'm in Canada and don't get 3G, it's not the end of the world, there are plenty of wifi spots. The battery could be better, but like most techno geeks, I have chargers everywhere. Could use a keyboard as in the Pro, but I have one of those IR keyboards for long typing sessions...my biggest problem is screen size. I love the VGA screen, but I like real estate (my eyes aren't what they used to be), the bigger the better. So, I will wait for the HD and sell my precious Diamond to someone who probably won't work, play and tweak it like I love to do.
i would buy HD, but since my diamond got stolen i had choice to get moneys or new diamond, so I took new diamond. Couldnt just wait for HD to come
love Diamond, but HD has so nice screen and camera cant say diamond isnt great anyway
Battery life sucks, but..
You know.. i think im going to buy the official extended battery but its just amazing that that tiny battery lights up the screen, wifi, 3g, GPS and if you dont use it TOO INTENSIVE it will stay till the next day, and it'll be 30/40% ..
I every day check my mail, the weather, some websites, MSN Messenger play with GM or TOMTOM andthe battery life is now 60% ...
If you want to buy it so you'd have a little office in your pocket you really should buy an extended battery!
I came from a tytn to diamond. I loved the keyboard on my tytn, but I was sick of lugging around all the extra weight, and running out of pockets for it to fit into. The diamond is a dream to carry, and it looks fantastic. The screen is beautiful. I protect it with a cheap flip leather case, which looks surprisingly good and has a hole for the camera. This also minimises phantom key presses when the phone is in my pocket. I have the mda compact iv version, which is a prettier than the diamond, and I'm still running the much maligned stock ROM (for warranty purposes) - I find it ok. I love the diamond, and am secure in the knowledge that flashing a new ROM, or even running android on it in the fullness of time, will provide a nearly perfect phone experience.
It would be wrong to underestimate the advantages of a compact easily pocketable phone, and it's transformed my ease of use compared with my tytn. The on screen keyboard is fine for my purposes (although it's sometimes a little annoying when it hides the box that you are currently typing into - particularly if it's a password box, and you don't get the feedback of seeing the letter appear as you press the button).
I wouldn't go back, and although the specs of the HD are alluring, I would personally choose the convenience of the diamond size over it. In fact I may well ultimately have both, as the diamond is my work phone, and I may choose the HD for personal use - as long as an android port materialises (apart from the absence of a compass I think it's what the G1 should have been). I have bought ten diamonds for use on our work contract. I have not had a single substantive complaint from any of my users. All are on the stock t-mobile ROM.
Hey everybody. I'm very new to Android and have been using the iPhone the past 3 years. I bought an iPhone 4 a month ago off an upgrade from my 3G at the Apple Store. I would like to switch to the Samsung Captivate. What is the best way to do this? Can I use the Captivate on the same 2-year contract? And are you former-iPhone users happy you made the switch? Thanks guy. This is an awesome site and even though I haven't had an Android device I follow this forum and can't wait to put all the sweet mods on my Captivate to make it much faster than the iPhone!
Captivate
Yes I had the iPhone 4 I return it and purchased the Samsung captivate I am much happier with the Samsung captivate over the iPhone 4 the fact that you can change everything on the phone is awesome you can have a custom launcher custom icon and a custom lock screen *in my opinion the samsung captivate is far superior to the iPhone 4*
i believe you have to do it within 30 days.
If you're willing to pay full price for the Captivate, yes you can use it with your current data plan. You can call AT&T and have them change it to the non-iPhone plan or just have the sales guy do it at the store...but I'm pretty sure they cost the same.
As far as being happy I made the switch...hell yes. I couldn't stand the restrictions that had been placed on the iOS software. It annoyed me to no end that in order to simply change the colors of something, or move icons around I had to circumvent security measures that had been put in place (jailbreaking)...which then led to a ferocious battle with an Apple "Genius" who physically broke my phone while "repairing" it and then blamed the USB hardware error on my jailbreaking software, and Apple sending me to a different Apple store to get a refurbished phone as I called and confirmed that the hardware error I was getting could NOT be caused by jailbreaking. I'd had enough. Not to mention everyone in an Apple store at any given time looks like a hardcore douche.
I love the openness of Android. I had a G1 back in the day but broke it, and didn't have enough money to buy a new one...but I had a contract renewal with ATT which is how I ended up with an iPhone. It feels great to be able to do whatever I want with my phone. I thoroughly enjoy learning about the inner workings of Android and flashing different ROMs, etc.
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I think I'm going to be happy switching to the Android. Another question - what about music? How does that work with the Android devices. I know it's based off an expandable SD card, but is there like an iTunes alternative to sync my music and transfer the music? Also, once I do the switch I am definetely going to root the device and apply one of the new Roms that take the AT&T crap out and make it run faster. I am VERY familiar with jailbreaking the iPhone, I have been doing it ever since 2.2.1. Is it as easy to learn how to root as it is to jailbreaking? Thanks guys
syncing music
There's an app called DoubleTwist that's supposed to be equivalent to what iTunes would do on the iPhone (without the store, anyway.) I've tried it but haven't had a lot of luck yet...probably due to peculiarities in my environment.
If you know where the media files are supposed to go on the device, it should be as simple as copying them to it over USB.
The Captivate does come with 16 GB on its "internal SD card," so the SD card is optional for that
you can download music directly to your phone and save the hassle of syncing with at computer..
and best part is most of the time its free, but there really isn't much of a market yet, but you can download any mp3 file you wanted and its not tied down to iTunes.
Thanks for all the answers guys. I will look into Doubletwist. Also, last question lol (I promise) - I love the look of plain regular Vannila Android, is it possible to get that on a Captivate?
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Thanks for all the answers guys. I will look into Doubletwist. Also, last question lol (I promise) - I love the look of plain regular Vannila Android, is it possible to get that on a Captivate?
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Not yet. But you can use an alternative home screen program such as ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro. These programs run on top of your operating system and changer the user interface to pretty much anything you want
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I had an iphone 3G, 3GS and 4. The Captivate is a better device than all of them in almost every regard. The only things that the iPhone 4 has over the Samsung Captivate are:
Better Camera with Flash
Working GPS
Better games (my opinion)
Better music player UI
You can get a few different launchers for the Captivate that work pretty well. I use LauncherPro. It's not stock Android but it gets rid of a lot of the TouchWiz.
And it's very customizable.
I am happy with the switch to Android. If I don't keep it it's only due to the GPS issues and I will move on to a different Android device.
Zysoclaplem said:
I had an iphone 3G, 3GS and 4. The Captivate is a better device than all of them in almost every regard. The only things that the iPhone 4 has over the Samsung Captivate are:
Better Camera with Flash
Working GPS
Better games (my opinion)
Better music player UI
You can get a few different launchers for the Captivate that work pretty well. I use LauncherPro. It's not stock Android but it gets rid of a lot of the TouchWiz.
And it's very customizable.
I am happy with the switch to Android. If I don't keep it it's only due to the GPS issues and I will move on to a different Android device.
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I was with you up until the games (which I understood to be an opinion) and the Music UI. In my opinion the music app that samsung provides is more than adequate and considering the controls in the lockscreen with the slide down disc to change songs and in the notification bar. Not too mention the array of EQ features and 5.1 channel output it definitely trumps the iphone.
But of course that is subjective
I am about to come back to the captivate from the iphone 4. I always go back to the iphone to stop my love for hacking and modifying the phones general purpose. The captivate is a great phone on att as far as android goes. The ui helps alot of iphone users to adjust for the simple fact that it mimics ios. You know I did go back to the iphone this last time because I got my captivate cheap on craigslist and made a killin to buy an iphone outright. I got the iphone 4 because of flash and front facing camera. After a month with it Ive just come to the conclusion that I dont even like the flash and I dont use face time enough to justify the cause. I really wish I had sprint cause my ideal device is the evo(led notify and front camera) but I get a great deal through work with att so the captivate is just a better 3GS IMO!
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Hey everybody. I'm very new to Android and have been using the iPhone the past 3 years. I bought an iPhone 4 a month ago off an upgrade from my 3G at the Apple Store. I would like to switch to the Samsung Captivate. What is the best way to do this? Can I use the Captivate on the same 2-year contract? And are you former-iPhone users happy you made the switch? Thanks guy. This is an awesome site and even though I haven't had an Android device I follow this forum and can't wait to put all the sweet mods on my Captivate to make it much faster than the iPhone!
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I'll trade you my Captivate for your iphone4 anyday!!
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I was with you up until the games (which I understood to be an opinion) and the Music UI. In my opinion the music app that samsung provides is more than adequate and considering the controls in the lockscreen with the slide down disc to change songs and in the notification bar. Not too mention the array of EQ features and 5.1 channel output it definitely trumps the iphone.
But of course that is subjective
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Seriously?? You think Android has better games than iphone?? What are you smoking??
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Seriously?? You think Android has better games than iphone?? What are you smoking??
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First of all I don't take well to condescension. So I'm not "smoking" anything. Subjective being the key word, I prefer playing emulators of games I like with the gba/psx emulator rather than cutesy games about cooking or herding sheep. Just me
I also had the iPhone 4(returned it also), as well as every other iPhone...So after 3+ years of ios and iPhones, Im very happy I made the switch to android and the captivate and will never go back.
When I did have my iPhones and ios I had them jailbroken...and I still think Android and the captivate is mucher better. Stock vs stock and rooted vs jailbroken!
One really big thing that I like and enjoy android so much more is the community! Android people are awesome and always wiling to help out!!!
try zeam also both lp an adw are good but zeam is light and simple
Feeler thread for rom idea/ questions on developing from a complete noob.
MP3 DROID
Like many I have moved on from the og droid.
Like many I use the og droid as strictly mp3 and media.
just a modified rom to work best as a mp3 player. i have been working on perfecting the art of music player on my droid for a while now and I want to share my results. i think i came up with a wining combination of mods, apps, and software removals.
I want to share that sucess but I am a complete noob.
I just want to do something like nlite for windows. I want to do some basic things to a existing rom..
what kitchen is recomended? I have read many noobie guides and stuff and I am not strong on coding.. I took c+ years ago. and only used to dable in cgi and html. what is a good guide for this kind of undertaking?
can some one help me with this. The droid is dead. the mp3 droid will not be dead.
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SO mp3 droid is ...
goals.
battle the low ram capacity of the phone.
.no frills or flashy eye candy. simple. modern and so fast. insane fast. you are going to wish the og droid performed like this as a phone!
.so quick and easy that the interface resembles an ipod and anyone from monkeys to grandmas will be able to easily play music.
.batter life? whats that. holy gosh forgetting to charge is not a big deal anymore?
plans / planned
based off of a extreemly fast and stable FROYO version of bugless beast from pete. http://www.peteralfonso.com/
Chevy nova kernel ultra low volt 900 stock with slight modification
all non esential apks removed! I have gutted 70% and this phone blazes!(this makes the big dif in speed)
all phone essential services disabled and striped.
airplane mode with wifi.
only one screen on the launcher (launcher will be zeeam for sure (uses least ram)
higher dpi than stock.
no app drawer
no lock screen
music widget (froyomusic mod) takes up 3 out of 4 rows.
4th row (launcher bar) will list all the apps (will come with rockbox, music mod, album art catcher, opera beta, maybe sticher, listen, tunein radio. I am open to any suggestions that will give the best music experience. streamin google player is obviously out due to most peoples droids not having 3g data. I have tried a lot of music players. music mod is the best on this platform on this device. i would love double twist or winamp but double twist has issues and winamp is just a horrible linux port that will eat up your droids ram like a cookie monster on steroids.
in essence this is the main version of mp3 droid. just a modified rom to work best as a mp3 player. i have been working on perfecting the art of music player on my droid for a while now and I want to share my results. i think i came up with a wining combination of mods, apps, and software removals.
version 2 will be
bb (any fast rom) even more super lightened.
ROCK BOX http://www.rockbox.org/
will be the only thing that will run. on top of the rom.
it will run from boot of rom
essentially a ported rock box player ported as the main os
of course it would make me a lot happier to not even use android at all and get a bootable version of rockbox working on this device. rock box is open source and works on a lot of devices I just dont know what this would entail.
video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HedLoOSsDV0
hey just uploaded a quick video so you can see the speed and overall look first hand..
sorry for sideways and quality. lack there of. apologize for my sleepiness as well. overall sorry video. but good rendition of speed i am acheiving with the setup.
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video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HedLoOSsDV0
hey just uploaded a quick video so you can see the speed and overall look first hand..
sorry for sideways and quality. lack there of. apologize for my sleepiness as well. overall sorry video. but good rendition of speed i am acheiving with the setup.
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That actually does look quite fast. While I can't help you with developing a ROM, I can tell you it would be helpful to the rest of us if you told us what exactly you did... Looks fantastic
Indeed. it is extremely fast. the video does not even do it justice. I have never seen the og droid perform like this.
as far as what i have done the general idea is in my first post and a detailed walk through will follow shortly.
i will def post a detailed version of what i have done but it comes down to pretty much trial and error
well thats the definition of what i have done and plan to get ironed out into a rom. i have taken all the guess work out of finding the speediest apps, roms, kernels, home screens, etc,
i removed as many things as i could from the device that did not sacrafice reliablity or stability.
i am runing an older version of bugless beast. trial and error has shown this version to perform best on multiple droid 1s
i am running the newer chevy nova kernel 1000 ul clocked at 900.
i have lightened the phone by about 70 % will provide list or possibly a script or both of what apps you can safely remove.. afik
and I am running zeam with settings that provide the least ram usage
1 home screen
no visual effects
full screen.
everything i have done has been centered around increasing ram numbers.s
disabled data.
disabled 3g
set up airplane mode with wifi
removed lock screen
installed rock box port
running stock rom music player which is foryo music mod
said widget.
modified build.prop
higher dpi think i settled on 280
camera button is a hardware play/pause music button (buggy at the moment)
anyway like i said i will post full details so you can do this
or you can wait for the rom.
might be a while
progress with the rom is
downloaded android sdk
donloaded virtual box
instaled ubuntu
(i am runing dual boot laptop with Ubuntu really have started falling in love with vm since i tried out chrome os and os x lepord. i like how you can quickly pop into windows if you need to and its nice that you can setup a shared clipboard)
installed java
messed around with rockbox to see what you can customize visualy.
read about a few kitchens and reading up on how to compile your own rom as well as virtual device testing etc.
this is a diy learn as you go process so might be a while till u see an alpha.
I'd be willing to test this when you have a version available for download. I don't use my Droid for service, just as an iPod pretty much, so this would work great for me.
i would also be willing to test. i moved to a evo 3d but still have the og droid. this looks amazingly fast.
ElectroBeijing said:
I'd be willing to test this when you have a version available for download. I don't use my Droid for service, just as an iPod pretty much, so this would work great for me.
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Yes. I am suprised no one has started this project already. I wonder what percent of og users still use it as their everyday phone.
Well stay tuned and i will get a alpha up as soon as i figure stuff out.
Cool, I am excited to test this!
Also, do you think it'd be possible for you to make a flashable .zip or something that one could flash to almost any ROM on the Droid and remove all the phone related stuff and other bloat? [ I hope I don't sound demanding, it's just an idea I had, and unfortunately I don't have the skills to do it myself ]
I ask because while I like the MP3 Droid idea, there are some things I want to keep that are being taken out. Like, not too bare, but not loaded with unnecessary things either, you get what I mean?
I'm also interested in this rom!
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This looks great
I gave my OG to my little bro since I upgraded to the rezound and I'm sure he'll love this.
Sounds awesome so far. I've been messing with my OG as an mp3 player since I got my GalaxyNexus.
I loaded PE 4.2 and stripped out a lot of non essential items. I've been experimenting with the different music players so see which works best.
I would also be willing to be an alpha or beta tester for you.
I've rooted, flashed and tweaked my OG since the first week I've had it. It has been the same with my Xoom and Nexus. I'm confident enough that I've rooted and flashed many other devices for family and friends.
I've had offers from people to buy my Droid, but I just can't part with it. It will in my opinion be one of the best phones ever made.
So any help I can give is yours.
I would be willing to help with this where I can. I am not a developer, but I can do some basic things. Could definitely help creating a .zip for people to flash with everything removed/added/customized.
I want see this happen so badly. I'm using my Droid as a desk clock to play music. I am running a FroYo Bugless Beast with everything stripped except Settings, Market, SuperUser. From there I installed beautiful Widgets, Pandora, and Play Music.
Let me know if you need anything at all. Please make this happen!
Looks amazing!
By the way this is the current home screen on my D1.
Running Steel Droid 10 right now with Zeam Launcher. Now only if I can find an way to remove the phone signal on the status bar then it would be nearly perfect.
Just a suggestion, but it might be worthwhile to checkout deadbeef as well.
This is an awesome idea and exactly what I was looking for! I recently remosefully upgraded my phone to the Bionic (which I am quite pleased with) but, like everyone else on this thread, have no intentions of letting go of my Droid Classic. An MP3 player-type device (with GPS - tre' cool!) would be pretty awesome. So, if I can help with testing, whatever, I'm definitely up for that! Except for that annoyingly small amount of RAM issue, the Droid Classic (as I call it) may very well be the best phone ever made.
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zealious said:
...a detailed walk through will follow shortly...
...anyway like i said i will post full details so you can do this...
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As a matter of fact, if you can post the full details of how you got to where you are (I mean, what you took out of which older ROM you based this off of, so on & so forth) maybe I could help you with getting it to the alpha stage. Mostly because this is the exact type of thing I was looking to do with my Droid Classic (as I call it) and it works really awesomely well as an MP3 / media player. If I'm ambitious I might even make a derivative with GPS enabled for runners - so you've got your GPS app to track your run and your MP3 player to keep you entertained!
(My Droid Classic has made it through 4 half-marathons, 2 full marathons, and was caught outside with me in an absolute torrential downpour and is still playing media like a champ! It's too good to dispose of.)
Just got an old OG Droid myself from a friend (screen is fairly shattered but it's still functional - the GPS doesn't work at all, nada, no signal ever regardless of where I'm at, maybe the internal GPS cable came loose, no idea).
Is it possible to build a ROM for this thing without any phone code at all, meaning no mention of any phone capabilities, no dialer, etc? I've never gotten into "building" Android or directly creating my own ROMs but the idea of a pmpDroid (portable media player Droid, guess I should trademark that name, eh?) is damned interesting since that's all I currently use it for. I do intend to replace the outer body as it has a lot of cosmetic damage and also get a new battery, generally rebuild it over time as I acquire the replacement parts and of course a new glass/digitizer setup as well.
So basically something like the Samsung Galaxy Players use, a full Android experience but zero phone code - that's gotta be possible, right?
It is still an excellent device in spite of the shortcomings (video formats are kinda crappy, only Baseline h.264 support sadly) but overall it's definitely worth using as a PMP.
Ok, so I have figured that I have kinda got this weird OCD like issue that has met at a point of decision.
I am not sure if I am alone here or not? But I will explain and see if there are others out there like me?
First of all I think that I am unique and weird as far as this specific issue is concerned. I am going to state some specifics around certain aspects of my characteristics, that I think should separate me from the typical (more common types) amoung us.
(man that was a big convoluted sentence - reads again....yup that is what I wanted to say, continue).
So...I have been playing with Android since eclair, which was mainly just basic mods to stock ROM anyway. I started out with my first modded full ROM at Froyo DarkyROM for my SGS1. This was the point that hooked me, and I pretty much went about doing my own mods to ROMs since then.
I have a laptop which now contains all of my dev stuff, with exception of my linux/ubuntu virtual machine that is solely responsible for building android that reside son my desktop PC (currently decomishioned whilst I upgrade other PCs etc). This laptop has a solid state drive that is 180GB in size (and yes I know before you rant on about how I have got things wrong way around with virtual machine being not on SSD I will explain.
This is for context only, I have my PC (that is only in opperational order so I can do things on it to get me by till I upgrade) that has the VM for not just linux but a heap of other work related PC stuff for mapping. I am a cartographer and use mapping applications and servers and all sorts of stuff that needs to be in a VM and the SSD wouldn't be big enough to house them all. Anyway I diverse....as I usually do.
I have this weird habit where I have kept every stable build I have made since Froyo. If it's not stable it gets trashed, that's no issue. And also since I got roasted by XDA early (false accusations and mistaken/confusion of using someone elses work) I have had a paranoyer of keeping all of the sources (that made up these stable builds *only*).
My solid state drive is getting full....and we all know that performance takes a massive nose dive as these SSDs reach max capacity.
My computer is very well organised though. Everything is structured and there is mostly not many duplicates across the drive. I have even gone about systematic cleansing as much as I can see fit. HOWEVER.....I cannot seem to bring my self to pressing the delete key to a nice stable build of gingerbread I once used for my SGS1 that I no longer even have anymore?
See that's where I seperate my self from the people who just plain hoard anything and everything and keep just about everything even if it was ****. Those types I guess (and from what I have seen) leave their PCs in such a disarray and kaos to begin with that it would seem expected that they were full to the point I am even before me, and probably 3 times over already. Or these are the types that would just fill a drive and begin their rampage on another new drive waiting to be filled.
Am I weird? Is this normal? Do others like me exist on these forums? Is there even anyone on these forums that has been around as long as Eclair (Yes eclair and froyo are versions of Android LOL:laugh.
Feel free to post a response. Rant and abuse at will, I'm ready for hurtling payouts.
Should I actually say good by to my long lost versions of Android that will never be flashed every again? Or will they become like video games like froga and donky kong and come back into fashion where I will feel the need to be nostalgic? (btw I am having a joke at my own expense here...I don't seriously ever think that will happen - but does not encourage myself any more to press delete).
I doubt this is going to generate the response of anyone with an attention span that's greater than the length of my post.
For reference: This includes all dev tools besides linux it's self. This includes 3 devices, all Samsung. Galaxy S1, Galaxy S2 and now Galaxy S3.
This includes stable builds not builds I have released. This spans 5 versions of Android
this thread has bamboozled me,
i'm curious to read the whole eyestraining paragraph,
but as i read further my mind explodes,
That'd have been a lot less taxing if it was written in proper English... Now my head hurts. *ouch*
Can't you simply copy all of it to a backup external drive? To free up some space?
TL;dr... son, it's called puberty... just sit back and let nature do it's thing...
Quasimodem said:
TL;dr... son, it's called puberty... just sit back and let nature do it's thing...
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Lol.
Holy mother of TL;DR's.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Eclair and Froyo weren't that long ago. Anybody who owned a GS1 used both.
There's really no reason to be holding onto older Android versions. You're not going to use them and the source code is available should you ever want it. Software doesn't become "collectible" since it's not a tangible thing.
Also whoring isn't even appropriate in this context. More like hoarding.
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I'll go ahead and indulge the OP... long long time ago... back in the 386, 9600baud modem days, I too, was all about organization on my puter... I had directory trees and everything... Would even go so far as to decide should a word be capitalized or not... Then my balls dropped, and suddenly such things became trivial... I was no longer worried about a cluttered root C:\ folder, or extra lines in the autoexec.bat... Hope everything works out for you!
im gonna answer your question at the title because i just didnt read your post -__-
Am I weird or is this normal?
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you are weird.
Jarmezrocks said:
Ok, so I have figured that I have kinda got this weird OCD like issue that has met at a point of decision.
I am not sure if I am alone here or not? But I will explain and see if there are others out there like me?
First of all I think that I am unique and weird as far as this specific issue is concerned. I am going to state some specifics around certain aspects of my characteristics, that I think should separate me from the typical (more common types) amoung us.
(man that was a big convoluted sentence - reads again....yup that is what I wanted to say, continue).
So...I have been playing with Android since eclair, which was mainly just basic mods to stock ROM anyway. I started out with my first modded full ROM at Froyo DarkyROM for my SGS1. This was the point that hooked me, and I pretty much went about doing my own mods to ROMs since then.
I have a laptop which now contains all of my dev stuff, with exception of my linux/ubuntu virtual machine that is solely responsible for building android that reside son my desktop PC (currently decomishioned whilst I upgrade other PCs etc). This laptop has a solid state drive that is 180GB in size (and yes I know before you rant on about how I have got things wrong way around with virtual machine being not on SSD I will explain.
This is for context only, I have my PC (that is only in opperational order so I can do things on it to get me by till I upgrade) that has the VM for not just linux but a heap of other work related PC stuff for mapping. I am a cartographer and use mapping applications and servers and all sorts of stuff that needs to be in a VM and the SSD wouldn't be big enough to house them all. Anyway I diverse....as I usually do.
I have this weird habit where I have kept every stable build I have made since Froyo. If it's not stable it gets trashed, that's no issue. And also since I got roasted by XDA early (false accusations and mistaken/confusion of using someone elses work) I have had a paranoyer of keeping all of the sources (that made up these stable builds *only*).
My solid state drive is getting full....and we all know that performance takes a massive nose dive as these SSDs reach max capacity.
My computer is very well organised though. Everything is structured and there is mostly not many duplicates across the drive. I have even gone about systematic cleansing as much as I can see fit. HOWEVER.....I cannot seem to bring my self to pressing the delete key to a nice stable build of gingerbread I once used for my SGS1 that I no longer even have anymore?
See that's where I seperate my self from the people who just plain hoard anything and everything and keep just about everything even if it was ****. Those types I guess (and from what I have seen) leave their PCs in such a disarray and kaos to begin with that it would seem expected that they were full to the point I am even before me, and probably 3 times over already. Or these are the types that would just fill a drive and begin their rampage on another new drive waiting to be filled.
Am I weird? Is this normal? Do others like me exist on these forums? Is there even anyone on these forums that has been around as long as Eclair (Yes eclair and froyo are versions of Android LOL:laugh.
Feel free to post a response. Rant and abuse at will, I'm ready for hurtling payouts.
Should I actually say good by to my long lost versions of Android that will never be flashed every again? Or will they become like video games like froga and donky kong and come back into fashion where I will feel the need to be nostalgic? (btw I am having a joke at my own expense here...I don't seriously ever think that will happen - but does not encourage myself any more to press delete).
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I can relate a little to hoarding software...
Ended up just deleting saves and grinding up old discs.
Never gave that stuff a second thought after it was gone.
Feel better i have gone on a mass deletion rampage. Goodbye old ROM versions.
Oh and sorry for yesterday. You kind of caught me on a high as my medication kicked in. I apologise. I have narcolepsy, and I am given amphetamines to stay awake.
Already doesn't help that I can type at blazing speeds let alone being supercharged. Picture Hammy from that cartoon movie 'Over The Hedge' (after an energy drink). That's me some days ....I can just never tell? I could've taken a left down struggle street and none of my medication is working for me, then like 4-6 hours later the meds from morning, lunch and afternoon all kick in at once and I am riding the outter lane of the Autobahn.
You guys wore the brunt of my med posting. Please disregard....I now have a moment of clarity (I get them sometimes too).
Who noticed how much more battery life we used to get on Sense 5.0 4.3?
Seriously, with KitKat, I can only get about 3.5/15 at best.
But I was looking through some older ROM and kernel threads, and people were getting insane numbers like 6/24.
I decided to revert to a 4.3 ROM, Sense 5.5, but no dice. According to GSam, "Android System" and "Kernel" were still using ~20% of my battery.
My mother's One, I noticed, doesn't have that drain, and uses a sense 5 ROM, so I went back even further.
Now, I can definitely see an increase in battery life, with Android System and Kernel using ~8% of battery. It goes even lower during standby.
I know the International guys don't have this problem, they still get insane numbers on KitKat.
So, does anyone else want to see if their battery life is better on JB?
Or is everyone here OK with about half the battery life they used to get?
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I usually get through at least a day even under the worst Sprint network signal, so I'm good for my personal use case. Great signal from Sprint I get two days, poor signal I get one. As far as I know, the reason international gets better battery life is due to the GSM radio. CDMA phones use more battery than GSM - especially Sprint phones since they work harder to get poor signal.
But, I look forward to hearing your results.
OK, so I'm not done with my experiment yet, but so far, the results look good, which is a bad thing.
Sure, I wasn't able to get the insane 6/24, but I saw a DEFINITE increase in battery life from what I was experiencing before. Here are some screenshots from stock JB Sense 5 3.05.651.6, with Silence Kernel:
Here are the results:
Here is what I got when this was a new update (a really long time ago), bone stock:
Here is what inspired me to try this, credit goes to @THADDIUS25 (PM me if you want me to take this down)
I am currently running a Sense 6 ROM with Xceed NPR. I'll post my results from that soon.
After that, I'll be trying CM11. I wonder if there are any good kernels for it?
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OK, so I'm not done with my experiment yet, but so far, the results look good, which is a bad thing.
Sure, I wasn't able to get the insane 6/24, but I saw a DEFINITE increase in battery life from what I was experiencing before. Here are some screenshots from stock JB Sense 5 3.05.651.6, with Silence Kernel:
Here are the results:
Here is what I got when this was a new update (a really long time ago), bone stock:
Here is what inspired me to try this, credit goes to @THADDIUS25 (PM me if you want me to take this down)
I am currently running a Sense 6 ROM with Xceed NPR. I'll post my results from that soon.
After that, I'll be trying CM11. I wonder if there are any good kernels for it?
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I don't mind at all bro you can leave it up. I still do get good battery life on kk but not like on jb.
mophie case
Sounds like you need a mophie case.
my mom is bad about turning off things she does not need on like WiFi & ends up killing her battery
so she got the mophie case for her HTC one M7, the case comes with a battery in it.
maybe that could help you.
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Sounds like you need a mophie case.
my mom is bad about turning off things she does not need on like WiFi & ends up killing her battery
so she got the mophie case for her HTC one M7, the case comes with a battery in it.
maybe that could help you.
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My problem isn't that the battery life is bad (OK it kinda sorta is compared to the stuff today), but that it got worse for us when it stayed the same for the International guys. They're still pulling like 6 hours SOTs. Obviously Sprint users shouldn't expect to match international, but we should at least expect to not go down. I'm experimenting with different S6 ROMs and kernels now, hoping that I can at least match what I got on JB.
And I would rather have GS2 era battery life than get a mophie.
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My problem isn't that the battery life is bad (OK it kinda sorta is compared to the stuff today), but that it got worse for us when it stayed the same for the International guys. They're still pulling like 6 hours SOTs. Obviously Sprint users shouldn't expect to match international, but we should at least expect to not go down. I'm experimenting with different S6 ROMs and kernels now, hoping that I can at least match what I got on JB.
And I would rather have GS2 era battery life than get a mophie.
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sounds to me HTC one is not the phone for you
I have had my Sprint HTC one M7 for some time now running stock & rooted/unlocked etc...
& the last update I got, it did seem like the battery was dyeing a little bit faster when the phone was doing nothing at all.
E-TARD_The_LifeCaster said:
sounds to me HTC one is not the phone for you
I have had my Sprint HTC one M7 for some time now running stock & rooted/unlocked etc...
& the last update I got, it did seem like the battery was dyeing a little bit faster when the phone was doing nothing at all.
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Um dude. What.
I just said I don't have a problem with this phone. I got this phone when it first came out and plan to use it until it blows up or I blow up, whichever comes first.
I'm just saying that battery life was better on JB, and that's unexpected.
sauprankul said:
Um dude. What.
I just said I don't have a problem with this phone. I got this phone when it first came out and plan to use it until it blows up or I blow up, whichever comes first.
I'm just saying that battery life was better on JB, and that's unexpected.
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I current don't have any battery screenshot during the preKK updates but it does feel like my SOT has dropped but not crazy amounts of time. At most I was able to hit 4 hrs and now its around 3:40 or so, but that just might be from fatigue or some other reason. With the new sensors in our devices, I'm not sure if all the old Roms are still functional on our phones so it might not be a option for us so we will have to wait and see what the L update brings to us in a few days.