Hi,
Im new with my tilt and i dont know how to enable my gps.
How do I enable it?
first off, DO YOUR RESEARCH! 2nd, you can't manually turn it off or on, software turns it off/on as needed
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I not sure what do you mean by that... ATT charges a fee for the service, not sure that's the case.
mf-fll said:
I not sure what do you mean by that... ATT charges a fee for the service, not sure that's the case.
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that's wrong unless you use their navigator program
So they dont charge me if i dont use their navegator program.
Which one you recomend?
So... unless i use their gps navigator they dont charge me?
Nice, wich navigator you recomend?
that too is a searchable thing, but I use google maps.
Look at the bottom link in my signature.
oh my....
I called ATT a while a go and they told me I would need to pay for it... what a ripoff
mf-fll said:
I called ATT a while a go and they told me I would need to pay for it... what a ripoff
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Only if you want to use their pre loaded nav program that they include with the phone for turn by turn directions.
The GPS uses whatever software you have on the phone that calls upon it (as long as it's setup properly, com4, 9600 buad BTW) It's part of the phone and ATT just thinks you will pay them the use their software. Personally I like Google Maps, but you can load the TomTom software on it then buy the the maps and not pay ATT a dime in monjthly fees.
I was only on the stock ATT ROM for about 3 days before I was so mad at its poor performance that I unlocked the phone and flashed to a new ROM and Radio.
There is a TON of good info on this board, the search button is your friend.
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Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
my phone was all slow and laggy, it froze all the time. i did a hard reset and now it's blazing fast. but i don't have GPS no more...i only have telenav maps. wtf? what can i do? am i screwed?
Gundem said:
my phone was all slow and laggy, it froze all the time. i did a hard reset and now it's blazing fast. but i don't have GPS no more...i only have telenav maps. wtf? what can i do? am i screwed?
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what do u mean by dont have gps? Gps signal, gps software, ...?
no u didnt "f" up. Im sure u still have gps, hardreset is just like a system restore back to factory settings/rom cooker settings.
on teh main screen it takes me to telenav maps instead of telenav GPS. i have the basic drive to/search/maps/tools options but then it asks me to upgrade to GPS navigator. before the hard reset i had the GPS navigator.
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on teh main screen it takes me to telenav maps instead of telenav GPS. i have the basic drive to/search/maps/tools options but then it asks me to upgrade to GPS navigator. before the hard reset i had the GPS navigator.
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Whwn u first get your phone, the software was in the rom or u installed it?
it was in there. TCMP is the only program i ever installed on the phone.
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it was in there. TCMP is the only program i ever installed on the phone.
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ok, so I am not familiar with telenav software so I will be no use for u. U can try to launch the software through the .exe file. Try to locate where the software is installed, locate the exe launcher and try to run it.
i had AT&T maps exe in there. i guess AT&T forces it's own files after you reset. i went to to telenav website and downloaded telenav.exe in hopes of bringing it back onlt to find out that telenav.exe is the same **** as at&tmap.exe, they only change the brand. so now i'm sitting here pissed.
i've had the phone for 2 months bought it w/o a plan (on ebay) because i'm not looking forward to have a freaking contract. latley it's been laggy so i did a hard reset. I should mention that i never paid for the GPS navigator which i just found out that it costs you $9.99 a month. so i'm totally confused right now... how did i have the GPS navigator w/o paying for it...and how is it gone?
Gundem said:
i had AT&T maps exe in there. i guess AT&T forces it's own files after you reset. i went to to telenav website and downloaded telenav.exe in hopes of bringing it back onlt to find out that telenav.exe is the same **** as at&tmap.exe, they only change the brand. so now i'm sitting here pissed.
i've had the phone for 2 months bought it w/o a plan (on ebay) because i'm not looking forward to have a freaking contract. latley it's been laggy so i did a hard reset. I should mention that i never paid for the GPS navigator which i just found out that it costs you $9.99 a month. so i'm totally confused right now... how did i have the GPS navigator w/o paying for it...and how is it gone?
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I am wrong person for this questions. I am from Europe so I dont know anything about AT&T. But I suggest u start reading some info about flashing custom roms. The official rom I had on my phone was too laggy and after couple of months I forced myself to flash a custom rom and now I am very satisfied. Its a lot quicker, I dont have useless app that I dont need anymore.
^^^ thanks for the insight. any help is still a help...nah mean?
Gundem said:
my phone was all slow and laggy, it froze all the time. i did a hard reset and now it's blazing fast. but i don't have GPS no more...i only have telenav maps. wtf? what can i do? am i screwed?
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When you do a hard reset everything is just reverted back to factory settings( the way it came out of the box) If you soft reset before customization it eliminates all the AT$T bloatware which includes AT$T navigator. Navigator is just an AT$T program, it does not erase your GPS capabilities. You just need to download and correctly set up new GPS software and it should work with tweaking. Hopefully this is helpful
Ok uninstall Telenav Maps from your phone. Go to start, settings, system tab, remove programs. After you do that go to:
ota.telenav.com/att/tnn on your phones browser click on DOWNLOAD
go through setup and the pin number will be the LAST FOUR of your phone number hope this helps.
Gundem said:
i had AT&T maps exe in there. i guess AT&T forces it's own files after you reset. i went to to telenav website and downloaded telenav.exe in hopes of bringing it back onlt to find out that telenav.exe is the same **** as at&tmap.exe, they only change the brand. so now i'm sitting here pissed.
i've had the phone for 2 months bought it w/o a plan (on ebay) because i'm not looking forward to have a freaking contract. latley it's been laggy so i did a hard reset. I should mention that i never paid for the GPS navigator which i just found out that it costs you $9.99 a month. so i'm totally confused right now... how did i have the GPS navigator w/o paying for it...and how is it gone?
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I do know ATT offers a free trial, maybe your trial is up.
I have just received an AT&T Tilt that I bought from eBay. BUT in my country, they did not allow me to get the phone because it has GPS and GPS is forbidden in my country unless you pay for an authorization ($300 per year) which I find completely ridiculous !!
Anyway, I just wanna disable the GPS on my phone (I don't really need it anyway !) or at least try some sort of trick to convince them that I disabled GPS. Is there any way to do so ?
I heard that GPS on Tilt is locked so that it can only be used with AT&T ot Telenav or something. Is it true ?
You live in Egypt??
No, in Tunisia. In Egypt, they have an HTC representative and they sell Pocket PCs with GPS, whereas in Tunisia, there are no Pocket PCs at all !
But how would they find out if you have GPS?
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I have just received an AT&T Tilt that I bought from eBay. BUT in my country, they did not allow me to get the phone because it has GPS and GPS is forbidden in my country unless you pay for an authorization ($300 per year) which I find completely ridiculous !!
Anyway, I just wanna disable the GPS on my phone (I don't really need it anyway !) or at least try some sort of trick to convince them that I disabled GPS. Is there any way to do so ?
I heard that GPS on Tilt is locked so that it can only be used with AT&T ot Telenav or something. Is it true ?
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The Tilt's GPS is not locked to any app or carrier, you can use any app you wish, on mine I have TomTom, Google Maps and Windows Live Search. As far as disabling the GPS, you can always tell them it only works if you use a GPS based program (which is true), and when you show them your Tilt make sure no GPS software is on it, you can later install the GPS software after the "man" is gone
What a load of bullcrap.. ever thought about emigration?
now seriously: cant u set it to external antenna without an antenna installed on the back?
gps is not a service that a country (apart from usa ) control
and it dont transmit anything it only recieve
i doubt very much that the Tunisian goverment would or could detect if you use gps there
WOW, I'm just curious, do you have anything we could read regarding this law? Do you have to have your phone inspected by someone? Any reason to not allow GPS? What else can't you do?
http://www.subzeroblue.com/archives/2008/01/tunisianas_gps_weene.html
I found a little something about GPS in Tunisia.
SO, if they are making GPS for that area why can't our friend use his tilt?
Rudegar said:
gps is not a service that a country (apart from usa ) control
and it dont transmit anything it only recieve
i doubt very much that the Tunisian goverment would or could detect if you use gps there
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They did not let me get my Tilt from the post office until I get that authorization ($300 per year !!!!!!). I know that once I get the phone, they can never detect me !!
ChumleyEX said:
SO, if they are making GPS for that area why can't our friend use his tilt?
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They are trying to build some sort of monopoly so that we all have to buy GPS from here (a simple GPS device costs $800 !!). I told them about that but they replied that companies providing GPS devices are paying the $300 thing each year, which I didn't !
seether said:
They did not let me get my Tilt from the post office until I get that authorization ($300 per year !!!!!!). I know that once I get the phone, they can never detect me !!
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So your tilt is still at the post office? Like a gadget prison? NOOOOOOO FREE THE TILT, FREE THE TILT,FREE THE TILT,FREE THE TILT.
So far they haven't let me get my Tilt. I told them to erase the software, but they want me to remove the hardware part. Is this possible ?
I don't think so. Send it back dude and get another phone.
As far as I know, the GPS is part of the CPU chip, thus impossible to take apart!
Evenings,
I have just moved over from the HTC Kaiser (Vario 3) to the G1 and I love everything abotu the G1 the only thing it is missing is decent turn by turn navigation.
I had tomtom on my Kaiser and am looking for something similar for the G1,
I found this link demoing CoPilot 7 but it doesnt look to be avalable to the public as I cannot find anywhere to buy it from. and on the CoPilot website it doesnt list the G1 as a compatible phone.
http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2009/01/09/alks-copilot-live-t-mobile-g1
I found and downloaded AndNav 2 and found that it wasnt very good the display is to small and i cant get used to the interface.
lastly I found TeleNav but ind $10 a month a little bit of a rip off, i would rather something you pay a 1 off fee like you would with a tomtom and then update the maps at a cost.
Does anyone know where I can get the CoPilot from and if its even out yet.
Hello,
i move from a htc 3300 (artemis) with tom tom, i gave it away in exchange for the Dream, but im a little regret about this, because im always lost the google maps show me in the map but dont tell where to turn. Wisepilot is expensive and the andnav2 is very very limited. I have a nav4all but dont show the map and is anoying and confusing.
So i need this for navigate in work and i dont have one Turn to Turn GPS like the old Tom Tom in htc Artemis.
Anyone have a solution?
Filipe.Nogueira said:
Hello,
i move from a htc 3300 (artemis) with tom tom, i gave it away in exchange for the Dream, but im a little regret about this, because im always lost the google maps show me in the map but dont tell where to turn. Wisepilot is expensive and the andnav2 is very very limited. I have a nav4all but dont show the map and is anoying and confusing.
So i need this for navigate in work and i dont have one Turn to Turn GPS like the old Tom Tom in htc Artemis.
Anyone have a solution?
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Telenav.
I'm using it until Something else is released that's as good as telenav, but doesn't have a subscription fee.
Henchman said:
Telenav.
I'm using it until Something else is released that's as good as telenav, but doesn't have a subscription fee.
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I think i have found the app for me, Its a free download from the market place and its called wisepilot. its a very profesional GUI and looks like it works very well and the instructions seem clear( havent road tested it yet)
The only issue i see is that it says that its a free trial and it shoudl expire after 5 days and then to renew its 99Euro per year which seems expencive considering i can buy a tomtom for around that much and i dont have to subscribe to anything.
The only issue i have with wisepilot is that it downloads the map squares from a server rather than having them on a SD card.
Agghh FFS What is the point of a navigation system that doesnt work outside of GPRS coverage
What if I am not within the network coverage?
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If there is no network coverage, you can use neither your moile phone, nor the Wisepilot service
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just a warning about telenav, if you try to cancel they wont do it. you need to call in like 3 or 4 times to confirm they canceled, and they will strait lie to you about calling in and cancelling.
How do you get this back on, after flashing a HTC rom?
Thanks.
Browse to Orange World on your phone and download the app. Personally, I think its a load of crap myself and with A-GPS, its a license to print money.
Got myself a Touch 3G free from Orange on Thursday, and got stung on data with their so-called "Unique" service, plus we all know what Orange are like for shoving their own crappy firmware on phones, disabling features, and forcing people to gorp at their abismal orange and grey customisation!!
Well, I soon put paid to that, my friend.....
Now running the 2.32 olinex loader, Official European (debranded) 2.33 firmware, with SPB Mobile Shell 3.01 over the top, and TomTom v7.9 for my sat nav. Also got an 8GB card coming on Monday, so happy days are here again...
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Hi,
Where can you get the officiail EU firmware 2.33. ( I believe you mean ROM).
Regards.
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Yes, do tell. I am running 2.32 I think, from the ROM page here.
Where did you get Tom Tom from? It can't be purchased on their web site as a download. It comes on its own card which is pointless as I've already got one.
If you access the Orange website, it doesn't allow downloading as says not valid phone or something like that ...
Quick GPS?? Whats use?
Hello,
I did HSPL and got rid of Orange Unique. I am unaware of using GPS navigation. Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is? Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
Sorry about my lack of GPS knowledge, kindly reply.
sachinghayal said:
Hello,
Just wanted to know what this Quick GPS is?
Does anybody know free navigational software (like Tomtom) which I can install on my Jade and play with it.
Second and very important thing I wanted to confirm, if I am able to install Tomtom on my Jade, will I have to pay my mobile service provider for using GPS?
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I think Quick GPS is something that helps get a quick lock on the GPS and then stores that data, at htcwiki.com it says "Quick GPS can speed up the amount of time for determining a users GPS position by downloading the latest satellite information via an Internet Connection"
I do not know of any free directional sat nav for win mobile. Google Maps is free though, but does not AFIK give turn by turn directions.
Co-Pilot 8 is rather inexpensive - have a look at their web site alk.com (but read their forum too before committing to a purchase).
No you do not pay for GPS usage to anyone.