Can i reistall old i-mate rom after 6.1 ?! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Hello
Thank for all of you guys, I've converted to windows mobile 6.1 on k-jam.
I have downloaded i-mate offecial rom from i-mate site ... can i reinstall it ?? will I re-unlock CID on my device ?
Thankssssssss very much

Reverting back to official rom all depends on the DOC Chip version of the phone.If its a G3,there's no problem,yes! you can easily flash back to Official stock rom anytime you want,just hook up the phone with pc and run the RUU in the rom to start flashing.
Butmif its a G4,and you upgraded through 'SoftSPL',still there's no further procedure to reflash official rom,just hook up and run the Rom,coz,SoftSPL doesn't replace original official IPL/SPL of the phone.
Well,if you upgraded your G4 device through 'HardSPL',than,first you'll have to remove HardSPL,flash back to original official IPL/SPL,which were there at the time of applying HardSPL and only then its possible to revert back to official rom,Coz,HardSPL replaces the official IPL/SPL with patched IPL/SPL and if flashed the official rom,which has official IPL/SPL,will Brick the phone.
G3 device once CID unlocked will remain unlocked for all times,whether you revert back to official rom or not,Putting official rom again will not apply CID lock again.

zabardast_1 said:
Reverting back to official rom all depends on the DOC Chip version of the phone.If its a G3,there's no problem,yes! you can easily flash back to Official stock rom anytime you want,just hook up the phone with pc and run the RUU in the rom to start flashing.
Butmif its a G4,and you upgraded through 'SoftSPL',still there's no further procedure to reflash official rom,just hook up and run the Rom,coz,SoftSPL doesn't replace original official IPL/SPL of the phone.
Well,if you upgraded your G4 device through 'HardSPL',than,first you'll have to remove HardSPL,flash back to original official IPL/SPL,which were there at the time of applying HardSPL and only then its possible to revert back to official rom,Coz,HardSPL replaces the official IPL/SPL with patched IPL/SPL and if flashed the official rom,which has official IPL/SPL,will Brick the phone.
G3 device once CID unlocked will remain unlocked for all times,whether you revert back to official rom or not,Putting official rom again will not apply CID lock again.
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Thank you very much
I'm G3 and IPL/SPL 2.26 .. That's very nice I can revert to original rom, with device remains unlocked !
Thank you again

Related

kinda brick need to upgrade rom!

ok so i kinda f'ed up my phone..
the specs are
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
and i decided to flash the radio rom 2.47.11 and now it freezes when i try to enter in my password at start up..i read that what i need to do is get it into bootloader and flash a 2.x rom on it but when i try to pres the reset button and the 2 buttons on the right side it just normally starts up..also how would i upgrade to a 2.x rom..or is there any way to downgrade back to the stock radio rom? also my phone is unlocked
thanks
keith
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could i downlod the RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe rom and flash that onto my phone and have it work...still cant figure out how to get the bootloader screen to come up
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
CID unlock it while it is still working with your current ROM
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
Then stick Molskis G3 ROM on it and you will be sorted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274316
for more info.
woudl i be able to go to htc.com and upgrade do the rom upgrade there without havin to cid unlock?
Yes, you can upgrade a Cing 8125 with the officially released Rom (as posted on HTC's Website) without CID unlocking your device.
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
keith1569 said:
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
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Official Rom Updates include the IPL/SPL. If you download and flash the Cingular 2.25 Rom you will have IPL/SPL 2.25 after the flash.
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
keith1569 said:
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
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Keith,
If you plan to install cooked Roms then you should CID unlock your phone. Technically CID Unlocking voids your warranty (though I had no problems getting warranty exchange on two previous phones that were CID unlocked).
The main reason to CID Unlock is that you can then install most (generally all) Roms that exist for your device. The only exception would be a G4 only Rom (which has the G4 IPL/SPL only) as your phone is a G3.
If you don't CID unlock then you can't install non-cingular Roms that include IPL/SPL so basically you would have to cook your own Rom if T-Mobile released an OS update that you wanted to use.
I would suggest you do some more reading before you CID unlock or flash anything else to your device.
ok bro thanks for the detailed explanation. I will.def do a lot more reading before I flash my phone or cid unlock it..this is a great forum full of useful information
keith1569 said:
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
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Where did you get the radio rom from ????? Do you have a link ????
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
keith1569 said:
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
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Ok i'll search for it thought maybe you had a direct link lready ....

Question about faria & Molski ROMs

using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
hica said:
using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
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Well... the CID really hasn't anything to do with the ROM... CID, also known as vendor lock, is something that the manufacturer put in in order to prevent users from installing roms that aren't released by the manufaturers themselfs.
Second, older wizards come with an older bootloader and, naturally, there has been some improvements in the newer versions. Therefor one usually, when one has an older bootloader, have to install a rom provided by a vendor in order to upgrade it. And thereafter install a customized rom released by someone here on the board, assuming that you have CID unlocked your phone before of course
Hope that clarifies it...

g3: reverting to carrier rom

In the wiki, there is section that describes how to revert to the carrier rom. But the IP/SPL for AT&T is labelled as G4. Will that work for a G3 or will it create a brick ?
Thanks
It all depends on your device,which device you have, G3 or G4 ? if you have a G3 device then you don't need to flash back that IPL/SPL mentioned in the wiki as its for G4 phones,just download your phones official carrier rom from its website and flash to revert back.There's no need to flash any ipl/spl ,but if you have a G4 and you have done 'HardSPL',which replaces the original ipl/spl with a patched ipl/spl and have upgraded to any wm6 roms,then if you want to revert back to official rom,its required to first remove 'HardSPL' and flash the original ipl/spl and then flash the official rom.
Well,if you have G4 but have upgraded to wm6 through 'SoftSPL' method,it doesn't replaces the original ipl/spl,but just flashes the Rom files,ok
Therefore,as you have a G3 phone,you are safe to flash back the official rom without flashing the IPL/SPL mentioned in wiki,ok
Cheers!

Upgrade question

Sorry for Offtopic but, i cant install official wm5 rom cause.
The ruu with wm5 doesnt work> connection error
The .nkb doesnt work with ruu mun> file read error
What to do???
LOLOLOLOL
Are you sure it is .nkb? Wizard doesn't use that kind of ROM...
What?? Of course he uses. I extracted the RUU and rom file from .exe instaler.
What could i do? I tried also flash it with softspl and i didnt work.
Well,which rom you are trying to flash and which rom is at present running on the phone,plz be specific ?This problem usually occurs when trying to flash a rom in a language different then already present on the phone.Are you running a Russian or some other language OS on the phone and trying to flash with a rom in some other language ?
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Well,which rom you are trying to flash and which rom is at present running on the phone,plz be specific ?This problem usually occurs when trying to flash a rom in a language different then already present on the phone.Are you running a Russian or some other language OS on the phone and trying to flash with a rom in some other language ?
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I have T mobile mda vario g4 and i want to install official wizard wm5 rom in german language. And i cant.
No i am running wm6.1 with english language. I had never, after the hardspl, problem with flashing g4 roms. Everithing worked perfect with muunˇs RUU.
I have english rom( all instaled roms were anglish) and i want to downgrade to official wm5 german rom. And tzhen upgrade to another wm6 or wm6.1 rom.
Why i cant??
Sorry. U are right. The rom file is. nbf , and yeah the official rom is like that.
If i try to flash it with ruu in official pack - i cant cause wrong update tool ( no connection)
And if i want to flash this official rom with munn ruu - file read error( something wrong with .nbf file)
sry, double post
and thanks for helping me out
Ok,I got your point. You are at present on wm6.1 latest custom build rom in english and you want to go back to your phones official wm5 rom,ok ?
Right,well,as you have done 'HardSPL' your phone and its IPL/SPL is patched to IPl 2.21.0001 and SPL 2.21.olip,right ?
ok,now as you have patched to ipl 2.21.0001 & spl 2.21 olip through 'HardSPL',its not possible to revert back to official rom,untill you remove the 'HardSPL' from your phone and flash the original/official IPL/SPL of your phones carrier Rom bootloaders.After only removing HardSPL and getting the official ipl/spl,it'll will be possible to flash the official wm5 rom,ok
Now,how to remove 'HardSPL', read and follow the method as instructed in the 'Sticky' in the G4 forum by dharvey "How To: Remove HardSPL"
Well,then again,if you want to upgrade to another wm6 rom,you'll have to either again use 'HardSPL' or 'SoftSPL',but,if at all,you want to flash with another wm6 rom,then why first downgrade to wm5,why not straight away flash the rom while with HardSPL still on the phone ?
Cheers!
Yeah, everything is soo as u wrote.
you: why not straight away flash the rom while with HardSPL still on the phone ?
I have very strange problem with wm6.1 rom that i would like to use, until the new paradox rom will come out. i will try it for sure.
U can read about problem in wm6 subforum in windows Mobile 6.1 slim editon thread.
So do i have any option unless to remove hardspl?
u are the king , i wouldn come in weeks to the "please remove hardspl, " solution. hahahaha thanks again
Ok, thanks
well,if you got a problem with the wm 6.1 slim,then just flash another wm6.1 latest rom e.g by 'it's right' 'TNT 19199 series Professional Rom' as I have personally used it and found it to be an excellent rom,without removing HardSPL and reverting back to official wm5 rom.Just give it a try,I'm pretty sure you'll like it and may sove all your problem,as it'll replace all the rom files of the previous wm6.1 slim rom.
Cheers!
Tooo late. hehe
To remove the hardspl u need 2 minutes. I removed it and tried to instalruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_382120_026911_tmo_de_ger_ship
Again once again i get the message from ruu = error file read.
Could somebody open that rom and look for problems.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
First one on the site.
Right now i want to flash another official rom( from remove hardspl thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744) and it say again file read.
What could that mean??
EDIT:
I just succesfully instaled ruu_vario_aku3.3_3822_ rom with ruu in the rom` folder. I tried also the T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom (old) with his ruu and it didnt worked. Also softspl didnt work on both roms.
I need quick answer
now i flashed wm5 rom aku 3.3 and the ipl/spl changed to 3.08 . Before was 2.26 which i got with instaling ipl/spl pack.
Is that bad for g4 with ipl/spl 3.08 , is it safe to install wm6.1 roms?????

Downgrade or change ROM, how?

I have dopod 838 which i already upgraded to WM6 (for the first time, since I use PDA ) I'm following the upgrade tutorial from the wiki and I use the WM 6.0 ROM made by mfrazzz.
my question is how to downgrade to WM5 (original from dopod asia)? I already download the ROM but I'm not sure whether i need to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx like when I'm upgrading it to WM6?
I see another new ROM is released, and i want to switch to that ROM, must I re do all the steps I done when upgrading from WM5 to WM6?
note the IPL/SPL is 3.xx on my dopod 838.
please help. thanks
Please see mestrini's response
markhard said:
I have dopod 838 which i already upgraded to WM6 (for the first time, since I use PDA ) I'm following the upgrade tutorial from the wiki and I use the WM 6.0 ROM made by mfrazzz.
my question is how to downgrade to WM5 (original from dopod asia)? I already download the ROM but I'm not sure whether i need to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx like when I'm upgrading it to WM6?
I see another new ROM is released, and i want to switch to that ROM, must I re do all the steps I done when upgrading from WM5 to WM6?
note the IPL/SPL is 3.xx on my dopod 838.
please help. thanks
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Never go from 3.xx to 1.xx as the SPL might get locked. Stop at 2.xx before downgrading further.
WM5 can work with 1.xx and 2.xx but WM6 only with 2.xx and 3.xx
oh no.. I did re-flash it back to 1.xx per instruction on the wiki. I then upgrade the ROM to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx, after that upgrade again to 3.08 then upgrade to WM6.1
the upgrade is success, do I need to check for something? as you said that the SPL might locked?
so.. in case i want to change/downgrade ROM i just need to re-flash to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx?
thank you for your answers
markhard said:
oh no.. I did re-flash it back to 1.xx per instruction on the wiki. I then upgrade the ROM to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx, after that upgrade again to 3.08 then upgrade to WM6.1
the upgrade is success, do I need to check for something? as you said that the SPL might locked?
so.. in case i want to change/downgrade ROM i just need to re-flash to T-Mobile ROM which is 2.xx?
thank you for your answers
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Sometimes,if you directly downgrade from 3.08 to 1.xx,SPL gets locked and it's very difficult to bring it to 1.xx,so its advised,if your phone is already CID unlocked and upgraded to 3.08,don't downgrade to 1.xx again,but if you want to reflash a new rom and want a solid base like T-mobile,then just downgrade to 2.xx,avoid going down to 1.xx.
Cheers!
OK, thanks for the answers

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