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OK i A D O R E this phone so far! Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
Got mine today -- the first thing I did was to put on a WriteShield screen protector on it. I had one left over from my Wizard; the Kaiser screen is almost exactly the same size as the Wizard's.
Note that there should be a screen protector in the box -- use it if you're worried about scratching the screen.
My wizard did that but never scratched. The touch screen is made to withstand your stylus and other tiny abuse. Never the less, slap on a screen protector for sure.
yes, i did feel that the kaiser screen has more friction when i write especially in chinese on it with the stylus. then i put a screen protector on it and now its all smooth. the screen protector that came in the box was trash, it was not smooth and the transparent rate wasnt that high.
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
mdm said:
Damn, I am so horny about kaiser, I can hardly wait for it. However since I live in Croatia, it's probably take another month or so for T-Com to start selling them here.
Currently I own MDA Vario, and what I mostly hate about it, is the fact that stylus is sliding out of phone shell. Mine started falling out in less than two months after I bought my Vario.
Do you think that they have the same design flaw in kaiser? Why didn't they at least make the stylus hole on top of device (like HP did for IPaq PDA-s)?
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People had that problem with the Universal (although i never did )
The stylus on the Kaiser seems VERY secure, i'm sure you'll have absolutely no issues with it coming out.
Pooper said:
Everything that annoyed me about the Universal, doesn't apply to this phone!
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Can you please be more specific? I just need one more little push to retire my Uni...
Pooper said:
1 thing i have noticed... when i move the stylus across the screen, it feels 'scratchy' and im getting paranoid that im going to start scratch teh screen lol, has anyone else noticed this?!
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Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
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Both my Hermes and Kaiser started of a little "gritty" at the start. I think there is a a fine coating that wears off after a while. Certainly my Hermes did and the Kaiser after a couple of days use is beginning to smooth out. Just something that is present when it's so new.
Worth noting that I've been pushing loads of apps onto the Kaiser, including memory hungry ones and NO Lock ups at all so far and it's fast compared to the TyTn. To those that said why upgrade for the sake of a couple of new things (GPS mainly), I can only say that so far it's behaved perfectly.
One minor concern - despite the overall speed benefit, my IE scrolling seems a bit gltchy anyone else noticed this?
Mike
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i agree..its glitchy and slower then the first ty tn
I have searched for this but only seem to be able to find one reference to it but no replies so maybe Im the only one......
I have had my Kaiser for a bout a month - not used extensively yet but noticed only a few days ago that the D-Pad is loose in its seating - it appears to be excessively so and "wiggles" quite a lot.
either this is just me...or being new to HTC, its normal. Can anyone confirm/deny
thanks
Mine is loose too...
Mine too, and was loose from day one...
noticed mine yesterday too... could see the led on it
Might open it over the weekend to see if its a case of tightning or adding something to the keys to mak e it tighter
I also thought i was the only one, been like that since unboxing, it's looseness is kind of annoying
Noticed mine after about a week, and also two more which were literally just out of the box.
It's annoying, but I'm prepared to live with it. Form wise it's one of the better build qualities and I'm still generally over the moon with it. Just wish it ran like an iphone! bought someone an ipod touch the other day and man it's so damn pretty!! I just kept telling myself that my phone does all the iphone does and more, UI wise it's just a little more plain-jane hehe.
Ant
the tytn ii is way better than iphone; better everything - no-one should need to tell you that
iphone is a girly phone. all it does is look pretty
apart from d-pad, im very chuffed with mine. also now running pocketmusic 5 on it and that makes it as good a music player.
Mine is loose too, but i just kind of got used to it.
it does seem like some of the shiny finish is starting to chip off though. that annoys me a bit more.
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
i notied mine is lose to this week ...
Ok, this loose d-pad issue was raised before and it is not a problem. All TyTn IIs have about 1mm of play. The d-pad has a "lip" which is seated under the front bezel. It will not fall out and it is a standard part of the design - just ignore it it does not cause problems.
Mike
Mandiven said:
I had to send my tytn II off for repair due to another issue. Calls/texts would not work while in 3g areas. Anyways I got the phone back and noticed this aswell about the d-pad, but I wasnt sure if it was like that before I send it off. But I really notice it now and it annoys me, all in all tho apart from that its a fantasic phone. Glad I not the only one with this problem.
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
I've got the same problem.
I solved it with a small piece of screenprotector which I placed on top of the d-pad beneath the edge.
Noticed that the first thing I took it out of the box. Not a big deal to me.
Melkor said:
My d-pad has also this kind of "looseness"
But this is very strange because this looseness is only on the left side of the d-pad. It seems to me that something has been broken!
Melkor
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No it's not broken. What is unusual is that yours only slides about on one side - most slide around all round (slightly more on top / bottom edges. I think if you tried a little more force it would slide all round. It really is not a fault and not a problem. (the pad merely sits on top of the actual switches and is not connected to them - so the movement is of no consequence)
Mike
Yeah, that's normal, mine too... This is the new HTC quality ...
Really, this device sucks !!!!!!!!!!!
- Not good for gaming
- Not good for playing videos
- Bad quality D-pad
- Keyboard not very good (worse than the original TYTN one) from my point of view
And all of that for around 700 € ... !!!!
Anyone who want to buy a new pocket pc, please think twice before choosing the Kai-**** !
The more I use it, the more I hate it ... I have it for about two weeks now and I still prefere to use my HTC prophet !
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The "looseness" is part of the design. The D-pad is subjected to finger pressure all the time it is used, it is expected to have some free-play movement.
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Can you please explain where is the interest of this looseness ? I had many pocketpc before this one (and 2 x HTC's), and it is the first time I meet this looseness. And from my point of view, yes , it is annoying !
I hate the feeling I have when pressing the pad or the buttons, when you should have a high quality machine (700 € ...) it is disapointing to feel the buttons moving under your fingers.
When I recieved my first Tilt, the D-Pad was very loose. Also, the UP button had to be mashed a little hard for it to work. It would do the 'click', but wouldn't engage unless you pressed a little harder. This was happening from the minute I took it out of the box. It was very annoying so I returned it for a new one. The new phone D-Pad is not loose at all and works perfectly. I've had this second Tilt now since about 10 days after release, so it's received quite a bit of use. Not sure what's up, but there was something wrong with the first Tilt I received.
To all the AT&T Tilt owners out there....has anyone had any issues with the chrome plating on the front buttons? specifically, has it worn off on any of the buttons? part of the chrome around the IE button has flaked off a bit. This is my second tilt, and the first one did the same thing. The chrome on the email button flaked off. Has anyone else run into this?
I called AT&T yesterday about it...they directed me to HTC. The guy at HTC told me that it would be considered phone damage, and will take $150 to $350 to replace the button. That's insane!
time to bust out the testers paint and the sequins.
Bearing in mind the Tytn II does not have those particular buttons chromed, it sounds like a manufacturing defect, as the chromed buttons on the 2 Tytn IIs that I have had have been fine - presuming that HTC apply the chrome to those buttons for AT&T, it may be that the process used is slightly different? Or the plastic is not prepped in the same way - either way, it sounds like a warranty issue, but you may need more evidence from other tilt users.
Wear and tear baby, they expect that the cosmetics may rub off from using it. Doesn't take away from the usefullness of the phone. YOU rubbed it off by using your fingers on it too much, it didn't just rub off on it's own.
Just stating what they might tell you, I've had to drop that line before on people. Not that I agree with it.
The 'Messaging' button is chipped off from the face of my Tilt. The others buttons, which I use a LOT more, are fine though.
pocket use ...
The IE button and the Messaging button have done this on my phone. I don't use those buttons so it has rubbed off from being carried around in my pocket. I carried the phone in a case for more than half the time I've owned it (since released in early October), so it must be pretty sensitive stuff. Doesn't keep the phone from working, just looks a little weird at night when I see a little square now light up where the Messaging button used to be.
What I recently noticed was the whole set of buttons on the face of the phone is sliding around inside the recessed area. Doesn't keep the buttons from working, but it didn't use to do this. I took it by the ATT store and had me call their phone replacement number. I explained to them the situation and they sent me out another phone. The thing is, this one does the same thing, just not so easily ... meaning that the button set still slides around, but just a little. If I'd known this, I'm not sure I would have bothered exchanging, especially since this one doesn't even have the new ROM, which obviously makes me think this is a refurbished unit. But there's no marks so I guess I'll see how it runs.
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I took it by the ATT store and had me call their phone replacement number. I explained to them the situation and they sent me out another phone. The thing is, this one does the same thing, just not so easily ... meaning that the button set still slides around, but just a little.
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My buttons just began doing this as well. As far as exchanging my device, since it is working fine otherwise, I'm going to wait until September (month 11 of 12) to exchange mine. If I time it as good as I did with my 8125, I'll never be out of warranty since each unit they send you comes with a 60 day warranty against defects.
I thought i was the only one...i own HTC TYTN2
Chrome came off from the center joint of the "OK" "WIN" Keys... i mean the part under the DPAD. and ofcourse no one presses or rubs at that place.. since usually wear and tear is not covered in warranty..
i ordered this
http://cnn.cn/shop/tytn-iitilt-outer-keypad-p-2057.html
Button Icons are a bit different from the original one. but i am keeping it .. in case if more chrome comes out .... right now its pretty bearable...hope it stays like this
same here....all i have outlines on my internet explorer and messages buttons...the chrome plating seems to flake off so easily
no complaints here whatsoever. its still alive (except for minor scratches from the stylus on screen) and no flaking or anything. everything is still in tact
oh.. hello everyone, btw.
Mail button is flaking for me.
I've heard about this happening as early as November 2007 and I thought it would never happen to me. Guess it just took some time.
It's not really that ugly, so I'm not bothering to try to replace it. I'd be upset if outside the icons started to chip off though.
The silver line arround the earpiece has gone white for me, maybe sweat has corroded it? Also my phone panel has slowly started squeaking/creaking a bit on the sides of the front panel
I've had my Tilt since its release (October 5th) and not a single cosmetic issue.
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Wow. I really like that. Chrome to me is rarely done right. It should be an accent, and not in places where it will wear easily.
My package from CNN just arrived today, I'll post pics of my TyTN II conversion in a few hours
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My buttons just began doing this as well. As far as exchanging my device, since it is working fine otherwise, I'm going to wait until September (month 11 of 12) to exchange mine. If I time it as good as I did with my 8125, I'll never be out of warranty since each unit they send you comes with a 60 day warranty against defects.
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Hi:
Are you sure this is correct? Believe me, I hope you are right, but for some reason with each replacement I have gotten they keep telling me the original warranty date still applies. Lol, I hope that made sense
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Hi:
Are you sure this is correct? Believe me, I hope you are right, but for some reason with each replacement I have gotten they keep telling me the original warranty date still applies. Lol, I hope that made sense
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What they told you is true, soft of. Whenever AT&T replaces you phone under warranty, the new device has either a 60 day warranty, or the balance of your original warranty, whichever is longer.
Say your phone is 1 week away from being out of warranty, and it suddenly fails... When AT&T replaces it for you, they give you a 60 day warranty on the refurb unit in case there is an issue with it. This is not something they will go out of their way to tell you, but it allowed me to keep getting a fresh 8125 every 45 days until the Tilt came out.
It also came in handy whenever the replacement 8125 was one of those pesky G4 models that couldn't be CID unlocked...
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What they told you is true, soft of. Whenever AT&T replaces you phone under warranty, the new device has either a 60 day warranty, or the balance of your original warranty, whichever is longer.
Say your phone is 1 week away from being out of warranty, and it suddenly fails... When AT&T replaces it for you, they give you a 60 day warranty on the refurb unit in case there is an issue with it. This is not something they will go out of their way to tell you, but it allowed me to keep getting a fresh 8125 every 45 days until the Tilt came out.
It also came in handy whenever the replacement 8125 was one of those pesky G4 models that couldn't be CID unlocked...
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That is GREAT to know!
Thanks!
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To all the AT&T Tilt owners out there....has anyone had any issues with the chrome plating on the front buttons? specifically, has it worn off on any of the buttons? part of the chrome around the IE button has flaked off a bit. This is my second tilt, and the first one did the same thing. The chrome on the email button flaked off. Has anyone else run into this?
I called AT&T yesterday about it...they directed me to HTC. The guy at HTC told me that it would be considered phone damage, and will take $150 to $350 to replace the button. That's insane!
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Don't keep your keys and your phone in the same pocket
I know what you are speaking of, but I have had no issue with my Tilt. The chrome is still perfect, but the keys do slightly float inside the housing. Mine has done this since new, but I really don't notice unless I try to slide the keys. I never notice this while actually using the phone. The only other blemish on the phone is my screen protector is obviously worn right where the X appears in the top right corner of the screen. That is only visible when the screen is off though. I'll wait a little longer to replace the screen protector. At least its not as bad as the screen of my old iPAQ was. You could see the lines from where I was dragging cards playing solitaire on it.
-Jay
Crap.
After spending two days rewriting Phone.apk to stop the quick screen timeouts and finally getting it installed and working happily on my phone, I drop the frickin thing in a puddle!
So I tried all the crazy stuff. Bathed it in alcohol, let it dry by an air conditioning vent overnight, left it in a bag of rice overnight. It sorta works, but at max brightness it is about like 10-20% on your screen, and you can see "bubbles" in the background. I will probably buy a replacement LCD screen, but it's hard to tell if there isn't more wrong with the phone at this point. I need this thing working right away, so this old one is officially becoming a backup phone.
My question: Do I get a new MyTouch 3G in two weeks, or buy another G1? I really love the G1's physical keyboard, but I also like the increased performance of the MyTouch. Any suggestions are appreciated.
That bones man, sorry to hear that. If you decide to wait and want the performance, Just wait for the hero and order an unlocked one. No 3G, but IMO worth the loss for the other gains.
derfolo said:
Crap.
After spending two days rewriting Phone.apk to stop the quick screen timeouts and finally getting it installed and working happily on my phone, I drop the frickin thing in a puddle!
So I tried all the crazy stuff. Bathed it in alcohol, let it dry by an air conditioning vent overnight, left it in a bag of rice overnight. It sorta works, but at max brightness it is about like 10-20% on your screen, and you can see "bubbles" in the background. I will probably buy a replacement LCD screen, but it's hard to tell if there isn't more wrong with the phone at this point. I need this thing working right away, so this old one is officially becoming a backup phone.
My question: Do I get a new MyTouch 3G in two weeks, or buy another G1? I really love the G1's physical keyboard, but I also like the increased performance of the MyTouch. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Hi guys,
I was going to buy a used HTC Dream and I was wondering what defects or problems I should look for. So far I've read about people hearing buzzing during calls and squeaky cases. Obviously I would check if the phone would boot and make calls but I'm not sure what else could be wrong with it. Thank you.
I've had no problems with mine other than it squeaked when I got it like you mentioned. But that is easily fixed with an exacto knife and 30 seconds.
Defects? i have had no problems whats so ever with my phone since i have been having it...sound quality might be off but thats because of poor signal though
memory card comes loose all the time. sometimes from slight movement, sometimes from slamming the screen closed to fast. sometimes when sitting on the counter and nothing at all is touching it. this is a problem because if you have apps2sd and swap it will crash the phone and corrupt certain apps.
also my D and F keys are going out. The chin is a horrible design "feature". An attempt to make it look more like a phone but it just makes it hard to press buttons while it's on the table.
the amount of ram reported in specs is missleading. in other phones HTC makes they dont count the radio chips ram in the spec.
battery is pretty small. most people opt for the 2400MH one which makes the thing huge.
there is no 3.5mm jack. (wtf mates)
lots of wasted space on the front of the phone that could be used for more screen space.
the chin doesn't slide with the screen making a large block on the right side of the keyboard that makes it hard to type.
The price I pay for android
Sliding mechanism gets loose after a while
Poor battery life, no matter what you say.
Backlight on the keyboard is a tad bit uneven.
It doesn't dance the way I want it to.
Sometimes you can pop the SD card door off, which is annoying.
Strange camera that takes either fairly good pictures or absolutely terrible ones.
I can't run Crysis on it.
It causes you to have OCD and constantly update ROMs and be completely obsessed with it trying to make it better until the point you no longer have a social life and your one and only friend is your G1, then you finally brick it.
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memory card comes loose all the time. sometimes from slight movement, sometimes from slamming the screen closed to fast. sometimes when sitting on the counter and nothing at all is touching it. this is a problem because if you have apps2sd and swap it will crash the phone and corrupt certain apps.
also my D and F keys are going out. The chin is a horrible design "feature". An attempt to make it look more like a phone but it just makes it hard to press buttons while it's on the table.
the amount of ram reported in specs is missleading. in other phones HTC makes they dont count the radio chips ram in the spec.
battery is pretty small. most people opt for the 2400MH one which makes the thing huge.
there is no 3.5mm jack. (wtf mates)
lots of wasted space on the front of the phone that could be used for more screen space.
the chin doesn't slide with the screen making a large block on the right side of the keyboard that makes it hard to type.
The price I pay for android
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I gotta disagree with the chin.. I think its pretty awesome... ugly... but oh so useful... I've dropped my phone at least a dozen times and not a single scratch on the screen because the chin elevates the screen above the ground so its actually very hard to scratch the screen from dropping it ;D
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I gotta disagree with the chin.. I think its pretty awesome... ugly... but oh so useful... I've dropped my phone at least a dozen times and not a single scratch on the screen because the chin elevates the screen above the ground so its actually very hard to scratch the screen from dropping it ;D
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ugly? i think it gives the phone character. like it says to other phones "i will kill you and eat your children and lick their blood off my chin because i have chin."
I'm not sure if anyone else has this problem, but from day one I found that the outer keys traveled further, and the inner keys (on the keyboard) didn't travel nearly as far. It's kinda annoying, as the outer keys feel nice to use >.>
But yeah other than that: battery life, my sdcard door had to be glued back on and the screen creaks on the bottom right corner (exacto knives ftw). It's still a damn good phone.
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Sliding mechanism gets loose after a while
Poor battery life, no matter what you say.
Backlight on the keyboard is a tad bit uneven.
It doesn't dance the way I want it to.
Sometimes you can pop the SD card door off, which is annoying.
Strange camera that takes either fairly good pictures or absolutely terrible ones.
I can't run Crysis on it.
It causes you to have OCD and constantly update ROMs and be completely obsessed with it trying to make it better until the point you no longer have a social life and your one and only friend is your G1, then you finally brick it.
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I can get 3 days charge out of my stock battery...... and that's browsing the internet for 2hrs a day and about 40 txts
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Sliding mechanism gets loose after a while
Poor battery life, no matter what you say.
Backlight on the keyboard is a tad bit uneven.
It doesn't dance the way I want it to.
Sometimes you can pop the SD card door off, which is annoying.
Strange camera that takes either fairly good pictures or absolutely terrible ones.
I can't run Crysis on it.
It causes you to have OCD and constantly update ROMs and be completely obsessed with it trying to make it better until the point you no longer have a social life and your one and only friend is your G1, then you finally brick it.
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Haha, the final part of your quote is true. If it's your only friend, and you brick it, well, you're a loner.
As for my HTC Dream, it's great. The battery life is poor though, I wish I could tweak it to "Supah High Energy Saver" Mode, I have to recharge it twice a day (one via USB at school, and one on AC at home).
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I can get 3 days charge out of my stock battery...... and that's browsing the internet for 2hrs a day and about 40 txts
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I am sorry, but I do not believe that unless you are maybe browsing with 3G off, Wi-Fi off, Bluetooth off along with the display brightness at the lowest it will go. Then maybe. Why? Because I don't even use the internet for 2 hours a day, that is a lot and I still have to recharge at the end of the day. 3 days is what people using 2400mAh extended batteries are getting out of their phone.
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my D and F keys are going out.
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Me too. Same keys. I have to practically MASH my f key down to get it to register lately. My D key works when I try using *just it*, but if I'm typing quickly it never does and then when I go back and press it, it seems to work with no problem.
Also, my DEL key is starting to go. ]
It also drives me nuts, when I'm typing, that the phone isn't vertically more symmetrical.
i can narrowly get 3 days out of my G1 with a 2400Mah bat, the stock battery is good for a day thats it.
the good part about the 2400 Mah bat besides the excellent bat life is that it makes the phone so large its much easier to type on the keyboard afterward IMO
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It causes you to have OCD and constantly update ROMs and be completely obsessed with it trying to make it better until the point you no longer have a social life and your one and only friend is your G1, then you finally brick it.
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haha halarious
but on topic
I am not a big fan on the chin or lack of 3.5 headphone jack but you cant beat that android os
in my opinion the greatest phone of Ive ever had the pleasure of using
I was coming from the samsung double sided phone from sprint, worst phone ive ever used