What are my options? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

AT&T Tilt. Stock. 8 mos old.
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.57.00.00
Battery ran out during a conversation.
Plugged it in, tried to turn it on immediately to retrieve the number and return the call from a land line.
Must've been really dead, because it only got as far as the 3G animation before it died again
Left it to charge, but it started a loop, rebooting, then dying at the same point.
Full Battery, but now phone won't boot past the Logo screen, doesn't even make it to the 3G animation. No buttons work at that point. Must remove battery to turn off.
Soft reset and bootloader work. USB Sync driver loads on connection to PC. Device doesn't show up in Vista beyond that.
BIG IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is there any way to recover my data (contacts, SMS)? I assume I'm going to be forced to hard reset and/or flash? Could I even avoid this and repair a different way?
Thank in advance for your comments
MindBridge
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MindBridge1 said:
AT&T Tilt. Stock. 8 mos old.
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.57.00.00
Battery ran out during a conversation.
Plugged it in, tried to turn it on immediately to retrieve the number and return the call from a land line.
Must've been really dead, because it only got as far as the 3G animation before it died again
Left it to charge, but it started a loop, rebooting, then dying at the same point.
Full Battery, but now phone won't boot past the Logo screen, doesn't even make it to the 3G animation. No buttons work at that point. Must remove battery to turn off.
Soft reset and bootloader work. USB Sync driver loads on connection to PC. Device doesn't show up in Vista beyond that.
BIG IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is there any way to recover my data (contacts, SMS) either before or after I hard reset and/or flash?
Thank in advance for your comments
MindBridge
[email protected]
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Unfortunately a hard reset wipes the phone clean of all data. Unless there is some way you can sync the phone at this point or if you have previously synced the phone., there is no way to recover data after a hard reset.
Do you have previous backups to a storage card ? Or have you previously synced to your PC?

Any other options?
Thanks for the reply,
It's been at least 6 mos since my last sync. I can partially rebuild some of the contacts, but with received text messages I'm out of luck.
Is it possible to avoid a hard reset? or just get a full dump of the existing memory, errors and all? could then at least extract some of the info I need.
Could I just rewrite specific blocks of data or is there any way to read the info that's in the phone already?

Another option
MindBridge1 said:
Is it possible to avoid a hard reset? or just get a full dump of the existing memory, errors and all? could then at least extract some of the info I need.
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It'll be worth cleaning the battery terminals and spring connectors carefully with a cotton bud/Q-tip and specialist electronic contact cleaner. Even though they may not look dirty, there can be contamination that may cause the problems you're experiencing. If you have a spare battery, also give that a try (after cleaning the spring contacts on the phone). Be careful not to get any cleaning liquid on the water damage detection sticker in the battery bay.

Still need some answers
Thanks for the suggestion. Keep em coming!
Unfortunately, I tried it, but it didn't solve the problem.
I appreciate the help, though.
I really need to know if there's a way to rescue my data.
Thanks again to all!

Any more help?
Could someone please tell me what kind of help to ask for if I take this to a local repair center.
So far 3 local shops are giving me the stock line that I have to hard reset the phone and to kiss my data goodbye--all without examining the phone.
I've worked with computers enough to know that there are some raw recovery methods. Could someone please shed a little light?
Thanks again in advance--

More info needed
MindBridge1 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Keep em coming!
Unfortunately, I tried it, but it didn't solve the problem.
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Thanks for your prompt response - keep those coming! Which did you try - cleaning the battery terminals/cleaning the spring connectors/replacing the battery with a another (and if the latter what did you replace it with)?
I really need to know if there's a way to rescue my data.
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Pehaps it may come as no surprise that in order to stand any chance of getting data off the device (other than data on the memory card or SIM contacts), you need to have it powered up and running. What you've described are classic symptoms of power supply related issues and these tend to be caused by dirt or contamination which will need cleaning away, either that or a faulty battery.

Take the phone to a store and use their battery, if it doesnt' work then I would say you're SOL

ChumleyEX said:
Take the phone to a store and use their battery, if it doesnt' work then I would say you're SOL
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I agree, it has been three days dude, that is longer than I could do without my phone. Check the battery, if it is not the battery, bite the bullet and move on.
It does not have a hard drive, so it is not like you can take it apart , yank the hard disk and recover data.
We have all lost irreplaceable data at one time during a hard reset or a PC re install. Hard reset, rebuild what info you can, get your phone back working and to you and everyone listening, put your phone on a regular backup schedule! Sorry dude tough love.

Yeah, time to sync every night and save some numbers to the sim car.

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swap sim cards without loosing data ?

Ok next problem.
I have xda2i and have used the unlock tool from this forum... thank you will donate to help forum....
The problem is when I remove old sim to put the new one in the poxy phone hard boots itself
Is there a way to swap sims without loosing all data
Thanks in advance
its easy, do it in under a minute and youll be fine
at least, thats the case for a SIM change for the Magician, I can imagine it being the same for your device
so: just be damned fast
Hi John, just keep your XDA plugged into the power adapter and you will not loose your settings. For some reason they mostly all do this. There are some folks that say their XDA's work as they should but most people have the same problem as we do.
Bob
I suprised it hard resets when you do this ... whenever i have done it, it never hard reset once (i've done it alot).
i know if you take longer than 20 minutes to do anything without the battery attached it hard resets.
As someone said ... just leave it plugged into the AC adapter when your doing it, that should keep the backup battery topped up
Perhaps its the backup (20min battery) thats faulty wth your phone.

TyTyn II problems

After many months of trouble free use I seem to have hit a number of issues and wonder if anyone has any suggestions. I will list them below. I don't know if they are related:-
1 The device will not switch on until either connected to the mains and/or soft reset.
2 Sudden unexpected draining of battery.
3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
4 Cannot be synced with laptop Error of replog.exe
5 Battery indicators shows charging when not attached to mains.
Quite a list and rather disappointing after such trouble free previous use.
Brian Leach
time to get a replacement
I'd hope to get more than three month's use out of a £400 plus piece of kit!!!
3 Random backlight changes not connected to the settings made
this one could be because of Phone Alarm if u have that installed
Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable
Thanks for the suggestions.
I never managed to get Sprite tp work so I am trying to avoid a hard reset but that may be the only option.
I suppose the reason I want to avoid this is the many programs I have on the device which of course may be causing the problems so it's a bit of a vicious circle.
I have a spare battery so I might try that.
I tried reinstalling Activsync without success.
As you say I may well have to contact HTC.
Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply.
Brian Leach
Maybe you can get ActiveSync to work over bluetooth so you can at least back up what you need and then do a hard reset.
If a hard rest doesn't fix it i would then contact merchant/vendor to see if you can get warranty work done.
If you can't get warranty work done i would suggest flashing your ROM. You should be able to get Hard-SPL loaded and flash a ROM all from an SD card and not actually having to hook it up to your PC with active-sync.
Otherwise, if you don't want to take the risk I guess you'll have to live with the problems...but they sound pretty severe.
gl!
Didn't think of a bluetooth backup. Will try that.
Thanks for all the ideas.
Brian Leach
backup safety
fizzie said:
Your right, you should not have to "brick" your phone!
If you've done any mods like ROM's etc...I am of no help. As tempting as those are, I dont need the headaches that, with my luck, may happen! Thus I've avoided those completely. My Kaiser is 6 months old.
Things I would try...
Hard Reset after you backed up any data ( if possible )
If you are using Sprite Backup you can recover a previously saved system state and apps prior to your problem start date.
Your battery may be croaking causing the backlight/charging problems. Try running without the battery.
Re-install Active Sync...
Remove the SD card and see if that is causing problems
Contact HTC and/or wait till someone smarter than me chimes in
Good luck, and I hope you get it back up and stable
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be careful what you backup since the problems could be software based and restorin a backup containin these issues could put you back to where you left off
Will bear that in mind thanks
Brian Leach

SORRY...but PLEASE HELP

i know alot of you all dont want me to start a new thread but my phone is acting crazy and i need help ASAP its giving me plenty of problems but only going to ask to help a couple....
1.) i installed psShutXP Power key on my phone and it worked great and actually still does but after it has been on my phone my phone will soft reset at any given moment(mainly when im on a phone call)...i have uninstalled and installed to see if that was the problem and unistalled again and still no fix please help on this problem first
2.) sometimes when i hit my power key to wake up the phone from sleep mode it gives me either an all black screen or an all white screen so i will have to put it back to sleep and try 2 or 3 times
P.S. i own the htc fuze from at&t in the US and same ROM as it came with...PLEASE help and dont flame and i will not add another thread of this kind again
No worries friend. This site is here to help.
Your best bet is to try a hard reset. This will wipe the device and set it back to factory fresh state. Just like you took it our of the box.
The downside to this is all of your data and programs in memory will be wiped out. The SD card will be fine, but to be safe, remove it befre you hard reset.
To hard reset, do the following:
1. turn the device off.
2. press and hold the volume down and Enter Button (round one on front)
3. Soft reset and keep holding down volume.
4. follow instructions on the screen.
Since you are faced with this, you may want to try flashing a new ROM or deleting some of the ATT "bloat" that comes pre installed. Check here for new ROM advice. Check here for a lighter set-up of the factory ROM.
Good luck.
Doug M.
is it any other way i might be able to fix without hard reset...just want that to be a last resort
P.S. my phone have seen some water it fell in outside during a rain storm so didnt know if that would have something to do with it also but this also happen a couple of months ago
It sounds like you have already tried the normal procedures. Your best bet for future stability is to start over. If you follow one of the 2 guides in my earlier post, you will have a much more stable device going forward. It takes a bit of time, but is worth it. Once you get the hang of it, it gets easier.
Doug M.
just try to hard reset it. you always can go back to factory ROM.
now im using wm 6.5, and my device performance is spectacular. XDA is the best.
thx guys.....i will try the energy rom 3 wm 6.5 that i have heard alot about
energy rom is a good choice and my current rom .
don't worry , once you figure out the rom scene you will hard reset all the time and will learn how to backup your contacts and texts .
a good thing is that nrg's rom even has a good restoring program built in . Pim restore . i use it religiously .
If you run into problems flashing another ROM or the phone still "acts" up, the drop or the water may have damaged some circuitry in the device.
You may need to restore to a factory state and send it in for service.
thx guys i was out of town.........but yea i got a replacement coming in so back to the drawing board with adding all the software i had on the old one to the new one but once again thx
my phone would turn off randomly and when slid it shut. bent the battery pins out a bit and all good now. just thought I'd add that as a possible problem/solution
lol wish you told me a few days sooner i just filed insurance claim and got a new but thx anyway because i might just have to do that with phone....im not hard on phones just bad luck if you know what i mean
Other things to do in the future if you come across similar problems:
1. Uninstall the last app you installed prior to having the problems.
2. See if problem is still there...
3. Repeat 1&2.
Always back up your data... There are some very nice backup programs available.
If above doesn't work.
Hard Reset and load programs one at a time after hard reset until problem reappears...or hopefully does not reappear.
If you load a bunch of apps on your phone, it can be more difficult to narrow down because of the amount of changes made by each app it may not return to the same state after uninstalling a program. That is why Hard Reset can be your friend...

Charging but led blinking

I have my Kaiser upgraded from Abusalza ROM v7 to v10.
It works like a charm and I'm loving it so far until now.
The battery is dead and when I plugged in either usb charger or power charger, the notification led lit up solid orange/amber like it supposed to and then it blinks.
I checked and later found my phone isn't charging at all. Is this related to bad battery or is it because of incompatible radio?
Oh, and when I tried to switch on the device it just hang. Perhaps it doesn't have enough juice to boot up.
Anyone got same problem with me? Please advice how to fix this.
Thanks.
If you have already cleaned the battery terminals, I would suppose it is new battery time.
Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.
Tilt Fanatic said:
Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.
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Keep in mind that my phone is currently out of juice i.e. dead.
So, supposedly by plugging in the charger I can restore the battery but in this case that didn't happen.
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
I will keep you posted. Thanks for the advice guys.
Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.
Tilt Fanatic said:
Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.
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At first it blinking and then I pulled out the battery and reinsert it into the phone. Now it lit amber light and then in few minutes turned green. Tried to switch it on and the screen loading fine until at one time it show loading icon and then shutdown.
You assumed it right though, I've been letting the phone connected to the charger since last night and still no juice pumped into the battery I presume as I can't turn it on.
I agree with WillardZ
nyunyu said:
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
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There's a technical term for items which fail very early on called infant mortality - this may be whats happened. See how it goes with a battery swapped in the shop. If you can get it to work by putting in a fully charged, known good battery but the recharging function doesn't work (or you get a flashing red light after a few minutes again), also try cleaning the spring terminals with IPA or contact cleaner applied using cotton buds. If that still doesn't work but you can boot the device into windows (with the shop borrowed battery), perform a hard reset before the battery goes flat/below 50 % and test again.
okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
I know that battery isn't the problem here and I can't seems to do anything since it hung on me.
Oh, I tried turning the phone on without SIM and memory card and still hung.
nyunyu said:
okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
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I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.
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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
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Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
Flying Kiwi said:
I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.
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There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.
nyunyu said:
Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
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duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.
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and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).
ASCIIker said:
duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).
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Thanks!
I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
Appreciate that a lot.
nyunyu said:
I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
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You've found the right section but just the hard reset section will be applicable. You don't need the bootscreen (which is what that button combination is all about), just a hard reset (making sure the battery has a decent charge of at least 50% before starting).
Thank you for all the help.
I've managed to reset my phone back to OEM and then flash 3.34 hardspl and radio and abusalza v10. Looks like it back functioning.
Will monitor it to see what could be wrong in these few days.

New here and with a weird problem...

Hi all !
I'm a retired recording engineer from eastern Québec, Canada, enjoying retirement and keeping busy buildingand fixing audio equipment and restoring vintage British motorcycles.
I'm having a very strange problem with my Moto G5 (not Plus) that started out of the bue earlier this week. When the phone is locked, be it after locking it manually or after exceeding the preset time, and I receive a call, I do not get the phone logo on the screen anymore. If I want to take the call, the screen remains dark and I can't simply swipe it. I need to press the "start-stop" button, then a white box appears telling me who is calling and the padlock appears at the bottom of the screen. Then I have to trace the security pattern and the phone app appears, but on the in-out call screen instead of showing the button that would allow me to take the call. Instead I have to swipe down in order to get the box that allows me to take the call or reject it. I did countless Google searches and went through all the settings but I couldn't find any mention of that problem. The weird thing is that the phone was working perfectly one night, and then the following morning I had that problem. Can anyone help ?
Welcome to XDA
Was the phone updated overnight?
Clear the system cache if possible on this model.
Try in safe mode to help rule out 3rd party app interference.
It could possibly be a virus, rootkit or the hidden users settings have been corrupted.
The rom itself may have been corrupted, not necessarily anything nefarious... maybe just a high energy particle that flipped a flash memory cell read state. Atomic particles playing god, I hate that
Worse case solutions, factory reset, if that doesn't work reflash last known good firmware.
If all that fails it's likely a hardware failure but this is probably the least likely cause.
Hi !
Thanks for your reply. As far as I can tell there is no recent update. I tried everything you suggested except the factory reset because I dread reinstalling all the apps, but I guess I'll have to bite the bullet. Hoping it's not one of those pretentious atomic particles... ;-)
lanhet said:
Hi !
Thanks for your reply. As far as I can tell there is no recent update. I tried everything you suggested except the factory reset because I dread reinstalling all the apps, but I guess I'll have to bite the bullet. Hoping it's not one of those pretentious atomic particles... ;-)
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Try disabling the lock screen etc. Go back to where it needed no password to use.
That's the first thing I tried, no luck... :-(
lanhet said:
That's the first thing I tried, no luck... :-(
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I'm not familiar with that phone.
In general, try clearing the system cache.
I don't like messing with the phone app data but... first backup your contacts then start clearing data in the associated phone apps.
If a hidden user setting has been toggled it may be very hard to find/correct unless you know how. A factory reset would do so.
If that fails the firmware has become corrupted and needs to be reflashed.
If all that fails it's likely a hardware failure, either the mobo or possibly the C port PCB.
A C port pcb failure can do strange things on a Samsung like loss of internet/phone connection. I bring up the C port pcb because they get a lot of wear and tear... and they're a lot cheaper than a mobo.

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