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as i started to cook my Xperia Xion for the X1, my main concern was speed and stability.
now when looking back on my pm and thread i get the feeling its one of the fastest around and the most stable.
so now i have a question to all in this forum!
DO YOU NEED ANOTHER COOK FOR X1 IN WWE?
more cookers -> more options
everyone has his own preferences, more cookers con be fit more preferences by each users... it's a matter of choice. And after all, 10 heads works better then 1 for solving issue, debugging, support ecc
There can't be enough cookers for the Xperia. More cookers is better support and faster bug fixes and solutions
Can they be better dan Itje?
You must be getting pretty conceited to think that all anyone needs is your ROM's and that no one else needs to cook WWE ROM's since you have the "best".
Or maybe you are after more money - no other WWE Cookers means more donations to you for your ROM's
I appologize for being blunt and by no means am I saying that any of these above statements are true of you; however, posting this question to the forum may lead people to think these of you. Most people like having variety and options so the more people cooking ROM's or developing applications etc... the better.
Edit: taking into consideration recent events where many cooks felt that one cook was being greedy etc... caused a lot of problems on this forum
just to clear things up NOW!
THE QUESTION RAISED IS NOT THAT MY ROMS ARE THE BEST..
the thing is that from beginning i ONLY COOKED IN SWEDISH, but after alot of pm, asking me to cook in WWE, i started to think about it, and as I ANSWERD ALL MY PM, -TRY ITJES; JACKS OR ANYONE ELSES, personaly i prefer itjes and jacks as i think there are the best cookers. that was my answer to all pm, and even in my threds, see for yourself.
so back t reason why i started this thred, i think there enough Roms that are very very good, and they are WWE, but after being asked several times, i had to see what people on this forum wants. do we need moore roms or not, are there so many alredy that its hard to choose?
and one last thing - i dont think my roms are suppirior. that is up to the user, everyone experiance different, or else everyone would eat the same thing, drive the same brand of car etc...
hope this is clear to everyone.
More cooks = More developement and more options.
The question is stupid IMO, would not matter if we would have hundred cooks here getting few more would still not have a downside.
I would say "why not?" since no rom can fit everybody. More rom = more choice = more option.
By no mean I say we are not sharing (in fact, Itje is very generous to offer helps), I want to see knowledge sharing among cooks since we got less support than HD from SE/HTC and we really have a tougher road to go to get X1 works better. Many goodies from HD (TF3D2, Camera, new dialer, notification system) are still very buggie or not working at all and I wish all X1 cooks could work together (seperate thread instead on their own rom thread maybe) to resolve them.
No more WWE cookers pleas... But private cookers (cooking on demand) are welcome
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THE QUESTION RAISED IS NOT THAT MY ROMS ARE THE BEST..
the thing is that from beginning i ONLY COOKED IN SWEDISH, but after alot of pm, asking me to cook in WWE, i started to think about it, and as I ANSWERD ALL MY PM, -TRY ITJES; JACKS OR ANYONE ELSES, personaly i prefer itjes and jacks as i think there are the best cookers. that was my answer to all pm, and even in my threds, see for yourself.
so back t reason why i started this thred, i think there enough Roms that are very very good, and they are WWE, but after being asked several times, i had to see what people on this forum wants. do we need moore roms or not, are there so many alredy that its hard to choose?
and one last thing - i dont think my roms are suppirior. that is up to the user, everyone experiance different, or else everyone would eat the same thing, drive the same brand of car etc...
hope this is clear to everyone.
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I didn't know this about you - cooking in Swedish only - I believe that if you chose to cook in WWE that many people would be grateful for the contributions you make - as most people are saying, the more choices people have the better. I now understand better why you are asking this question - do you want to take the time to cook another WWE Rom when there are already some available - will people use your work - is it worth your time to cook a WWE ROM - I believe that people will likely try your ROM's from the responses in this thread (except for one).
Much respect to you for considering sharing your work and talent in multiple languages.
Hi Smaberg - how about cooking the new 6.5 rom for the xperia? there has been a later build discovered ????69 - i think its all over the xda site - Da-g seems to be the main cooker on this even itje has been playing with it, but no one seems to be cooking it for xperia yet ? i'm a bit bored of touch flo & would like to sample the next official os.
here's hoping you'll take this challenge.
why not? Keep it coming
I think it is easy for us users, not cooks to get carried away with all the progress and development that gets made here. Where functions and usability that could only be dreamt about are fulfilled regularly. And obviously we get eager for more.
However if you look at the sacrifices that cooks lite dutty, itje, smaberg etc make, posting ROMs before going to work in the morning and at 3am in the morning, taking time away from family etc. Then perhaps the essence of smabergs question might be is the benefit to sacrifice ratio worth it. Obviously more cooks means quicker better work but to what personal sacrifice.
Just my personal thoughts
WWE in THE language. All fixes, all programs are made first on WWE. So wwe software will have quickest fix, better support, brand new upgrades, better compatibility (think even about directories names... "program files/programmi/programme and so on) etc... also xda forum is a wwe forum and all people on xda should have at least a basic knowledge of english language, more then sufficient for a phone
imho cooking in other languages is a waste of time
need more cooks in general, xperia is a powerful device but we seriously lack action here i wish i could code/cook but my concentration is bad lol... i visited the blackstone forum and my god, loads of stuff released for eg manila on 6.5. which i found quite pretty.
The more the merrier!
I'd definitely welcome more WWE Chiefs for the X1 - those who are here are doing a great job, but more can be done with more chiefs working on issues together, and making roms that suit different people.
Looking forward to trying your WWE roms Smaberg ;-)
yes we always need more cooked WWE rom (and also for any other language)
more rom = more FUN!!!!!
I dont even own xperia
just like jack said..More rom = more choice = more option
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just like jack said..more rom = more choice = more option
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最近出来个中文的rom支持manila横屏，谁搞的啊？
Dear All:
A quick look on Rhodium main page will show that there are few active rom designers in town. According to so many people, NRGZ28 leads the design of WM6.5 for Rhodium (and some other devices) because of his skills and remarkable talent at times when other rom bakers are barely able to assemble a program here and a patch there to a WM6.5 build.
Yet, NRGZ28 has gone against almost all other rom designers by keeping his rom for public and not imposing silly mean rules for download for people. Why?
This is because NRGZ28 remains a great person and a talented chef.
I invite everyone to thank NRGZ28 for his work and his gentle devotion to help others. Let this thread be about how many people like NRGZ28 for his talent and his kindness.
I also add that I had the chance to interface with NRGZ28 indirectly and I was amazed that he was cooperative on few matters so I want to thank him personally and warmly for his understanding and coopeartion.
Samer.
NRGZ28
I am a big fan of his work...have thanked him and also donated ...I really hope everyone else also shows appreciation and this thread becomes longer than his ROM threads with appreciation and donations!!!!
will a mod please close this!!
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will a mod please close this!!
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any particular reason?
Every user has their own choice of what they like in their ROMs and find some a certain Chef's ROM better to their liking than other Chefs.
I will take your silly rule comment personally since I am one of those chefs with the silly rules.
Many chef's in this forum have their own silly rules for whatever the case may be.
For myself, I release enough stuff without any silly rules. If I want to put extra time and making something extra nice for people who are active members of the community and/or donated to me that is my choice and I do it as my way of saying thanks for being so considerate of the time I put in. More than 70% of the people I email my private ROMs about have not donated and are just active members of the community. Who do not give a thanks that you are looking for with NRG.
Another reason is because of the lack of a thanks for the type of ROMs I do not even use myself. For the same reason you stated about showing a thanks to NRG is the one of the reasons I have my own system. I am sure other chefs feel the same way too.
I can think of 4 off hand that have "silly rules" for their own reasons.
The only best design in town is what the user prefers. I am sure many people will say Tom, myself, Ark666, itje, udk and any other chef is the best design in town. So to make a comment like that is just "silly" since your tastes are not reflected by everyone else.
>Samer
All rom customizers will be happy and continue their work here as long it can be if all custom rom user has behaviour like you. Not like other users whose like critics, complaints, request this, request that, asking this and that, like a boss. fcuk!
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any particular reason?
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Cause it looks like you are trying to start trouble...should we have a thread about every chef and giving thanks?
Ever think some chefs page views are bigger cause there are more bugs so people are going back or they release ROMs very often to correct bugs or that is what they like to do by releasing ROMs often?
At0mAng
Hi, which one is you in the avatar? left or right?
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Hi, which one is you in the avatar? left or right?
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hehe Looking at it my brain is on the left
Samer,
At0mAng is correct. Chef appreciation threads will soon degrade into fighting. I know your intentions are good, but this thread won't bring much to the community.
Thread Closed.
Dave
would it be a good idea to allow cookers to create issue trackers in the wiki and link the page to the first page of their threads.
that way when someone has an issue/fix we can say "add it to the wiki" and they can see if the issue has already been reported and any fixes that users have associated with it?
it also give the cooker one place to look when they come to support that rom
Anybody can edit the Wiki, it wouldnt neccassarily need to done by the cooks, why dont you start it off and turn this useless thread into something contructive rather than another cloed thread!
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Anybody can edit the Wiki, it wouldnt neccassarily need to done by the cooks, why dont you start it off and turn this useless thread into something contructive rather than another cloed thread!
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i know... that's the point! everyone can edit it for their issues. but we'd want the cookers to adopt the wiki page as their issue trackers.
I will create a page for the NRG 2.5 rom tonight.
FS plz dont lock this thread yet! something better might come out of it! ie a wider participation
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FS plz dont lock this thread yet! something better might come out of it! ie a wider participation
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I'll keep an eye on thread, and see as you say, if something better might materialize out of it. But, as you stated yourself, this would need to be adopted by a number of chef's for it to work properly.
Hi fallen spartan
I have created a wiki for two roms:
miri wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Miri_wm65_manila25
nrg wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=nrg_wm65_manila25
could you add them to the first posts of the two threads in rom development?
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Hi fallen spartan
I have created a wiki for two roms:
miri wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Miri_wm65_manila25
nrg wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=nrg_wm65_manila25
could you add them to the first posts of the two threads in rom development?
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Hi,
I noticed you had added links to the 6.5 ROM list on the Wiki. I updated the table just now and moved the column for the issies links nearer to the left. I also took out the language column as the table is getting too wide, and we can group the languages as shown in the revised table.
There is also a post about listing all the ROMs on the Wiki as this has not been kept up to date.
See the post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565960
I think I have captured all the WWE 6.5 ROMs which have active support for them by their chefs and they are listed on the Cooked Roms page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_cookedroms
Let see what others think
made this post in another thread... (apology for cross-posting)
great idea! i'd like to offer the following suggestions:
add a column for ROM version. i know this is for 2.5 Manila, but miri may have 2-3 2.5 Manila versions in circulation at one time. standardized selections would be great (although i'm not sure it's possible)
consider adding a standardized "feature" column/tag. might help with searching or filtering responses. for example, a standard features list could include: SMS, Twitter, Weather, email, contacts, data connection, sounds, alarms, etc.
are these easy changes to make? i ask because i'm not familiar with the wiki edit process.
Good idea, i like it!
cortez.i said:
made this post in another thread... (apology for cross-posting)
great idea! i'd like to offer the following suggestions:
add a column for ROM version. i know this is for 2.5 Manila, but miri may have 2-3 2.5 Manila versions in circulation at one time. standardized selections would be great (although i'm not sure it's possible)
consider adding a standardized "feature" column/tag. might help with searching or filtering responses. for example, a standard features list could include: SMS, Twitter, Weather, email, contacts, data connection, sounds, alarms, etc.
are these easy changes to make? i ask because i'm not familiar with the wiki edit process.
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good ideas cortez! I will organise the table better. google about writing in wikis. it is quite simple (this was my first wiki page i have ever created)
any other suggestions are welcome.
Jason1978 said:
Hi,
I noticed you had added links to the 6.5 ROM list on the Wiki. I updated the table just now and moved the column for the issies links nearer to the left. I also took out the language column as the table is getting too wide, and we can group the languages as shown in the revised table.
There is also a post about listing all the ROMs on the Wiki as this has not been kept up to date.
See the post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565960
I think I have captured all the WWE 6.5 ROMs which have active support for them by their chefs and they are listed on the Cooked Roms page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_cookedroms
Let see what others think
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thanks for doing this!
Guys the problem we have is two fold.
1) The Chefs are releasing new ROMs with increasing regularity
2) The Chefs rarely (and this isn't a pot shot) retrospectively fix issues in that ROM - they fix in subsequent ones.
I am fully for this idea but I see the above as massive problems to overcome for it to be useful. We risk putting Chefs of cooking ROMs but asking for such increases in bug fixing and ROM releases will naturally decrease with that.
I am not saying I either want this or don't - I am simply pointing this out. I have a number of issues with my current ROM that I would love sorting out...I don't want to be chopping and changing my ROM every two minutes in order to fix a small issue - however that being said, I also want Chefs to continue their excellent work.
Let's be careful and sensitive to what we are wishing for?
imranmaz said:
Hi fallen spartan
I have created a wiki for two roms:
miri wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Miri_wm65_manila25
nrg wm 6.5 manila 2.5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=nrg_wm65_manila25
could you add them to the first posts of the two threads in rom development?
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I'm not going to add something to these threads unless the creators Miri & NRG agree to it first. I have PM'ed them and will wait for their response.
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I'm not going to add something to these threads unless the creators Miri & NRG agree to it first. I have PM'ed them and will wait for their response.
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It's pointless in any case unless the cookers agree to use them as a bug issue priority list of sorts. I'm not sure that these guys have sufficient time to do that.
Having a list of issues is one thing....the list of fixes is going to be another entirely!
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I'm not going to add something to these threads unless the creators Miri & NRG agree to it first. I have PM'ed them and will wait for their response.
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thanks FS, miri has mentioned that he would add it to his first page
Wiggz said:
Guys the problem we have is two fold.
1) The Chefs are releasing new ROMs with increasing regularity
2) The Chefs rarely (and this isn't a pot shot) retrospectively fix issues in that ROM - they fix in subsequent ones.
I am fully for this idea but I see the above as massive problems to overcome for it to be useful. We risk putting Chefs of cooking ROMs but asking for such increases in bug fixing and ROM releases will naturally decrease with that.
I am not saying I either want this or don't - I am simply pointing this out. I have a number of issues with my current ROM that I would love sorting out...I don't want to be chopping and changing my ROM every two minutes in order to fix a small issue - however that being said, I also want Chefs to continue their excellent work.
Let's be careful and sensitive to what we are wishing for?
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Wiggz said:
It's pointless in any case unless the cookers agree to use them as a bug issue priority list of sorts. I'm not sure that these guys have sufficient time to do that.
Having a list of issues is one thing....the list of fixes is going to be another entirely!
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hey wiggz, while i understand your concerns i don't fully agree with them.
The idea of the issues tracker is different for different users:
People that don't have the rom:
these guys will be able to look at the issues and associated fixes (if any) and decide if they want to flash the rom.
People that have the rom:
They can look at the tracker and add new issues, track fixes and not have to flood the thread with things like "GPRS keeps connecting halp!!" after every two posts. Also, fixes can be given to a wider audience rather than someone saying "look a few pages back… this has been fixed"
Cookers:
Cookers can TRACK the issues, they can see what is wrong with the rom and either
A. fix it in this current rom
B. apply the fix or test the issue in the new rom
C. do nothing as there is no fix
The idea is that:
Duplicate posts will get reduced
Fixes get the visibility that they deserve
New roms can be regression tested by cookers, beta testers and normal users.
I think you got confused with "suggested fix"…. I am not asking miri/nrg or other cookers to fill out the form, it is for their reference.
The suggested fix is for ALL users to fill in. if the cookers/other users find a fix then the best place to put it is in the wiki and not on post #1006044 on page 1902309231
You dig?
imranmaz said:
thanks FS, miri has mentioned that he would add it to his first page
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Miri has now added this to his thread. Still waiting on response from NRG
I totally get it - perhaps I was simply focusing on the negatives a bit too much.
The fact is when I'm looking at a new ROM I want as much information about issues as I can so I know whether to invest the time or not.
However more often than not my issues stem from small issues that arise in ROMs but are never fixed. For me, the EnergyROM Leo would be perfect if I could just send MMS messages (the 'fix' hasn't worked for me).
Hey guys,
I can see this "Touch HD ROM Development" forum is messy with 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs together so its time to make a new Sub-Forums for 6.1 and 6.5 ROM separate... What do you guys think?
Actually I think its a great idea, Android too.
Regards
Flashmore
As a user of 6.1, I would really dig the addition of dedicated subforums.
Hope that can be done very soon, will be great and easy for everyone! get Moderator / Owner of this forum to do it?
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Actually I think its a great idea, Android too.
Regards
Flashmore
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I agree too with this nice idea.
Agreed!
I totally agree, it would definately help.
--I'd put a poll on it before asking the mods to do anything tho--
I'd also like to see this in the Apps/Themes section... some 6.1 icons and other stuff won't work 100% on 6.5 correct?
CETBOR said:
Hey guys,
I can see this "Touch HD ROM Development" forum is messy with 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs together so its time to make a new Sub-Forums for 6.1 and 6.5 ROM separate... What do you guys think?
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ok, first off the title to each rom thread should already tell you whether or not its wm6.1 or wm6.5, plus if we break it into sub-forums for this, were does it stop, i.e. new sub forums for sense/manila, different build versions, Android etc etc
People just have to learn to search, simple as!!
I'll mention this in the mods/admin section but I'm not sure it would go any further for reasons I've already mentioned, plus svetius/admin have enough on their plate as it already is
Rick
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errr why, hardly any chef creates WM6.1 any more which is a shame.
even if they did they would probably have multiple offerings, ie a WM6.5 vers, WM6.5.5 and WM6.1 possibly.
Most people seem to title there threads pretty well these days, ie.[WM6.1]
I agree with Spartan
I have to agree with the Spartan.
The titles pretty much tell you what version of OS is installed. You just need to read, search, etc.
We also need to remember that most of the mods have day jobs too and volunteer their time to keep this place running. They do a pretty good job and I don't usually see any thanks sent their way for their efforts.
Just my 2 cents worth
great idea
I think it's a great idea!
1- wm 6.1 roms
2- wm 6.5 roms
3- wm 6.5.X roms
4- android development
would be great !
I agree that the title tells you but with sooo many roms still being cooked it would be nice to split it a bit.
A dedicated Android area would make that a bit easier to follow as there is a few things going on and they get very lost in the WM roms...
As to 6.1/6.5 maybe all we need is a ROMS only sub forum. leave the top level for discussing radio's and comparison roms. Also any other developments then the sub forum has ONLY the roms and nothing else.
Since there is no official HTC ROM for Touch HD on WM 6.5 or Android, I have to agree with Fallen Spartan.
Even if there is, such division would make tracking ROMs more difficult.
And if you spot ROM you like, there's always "Subscribe thread" option...
I agree too with subforums for WM 6.1 and WM 6.5 and even WM 7 and don't forget ANDROID or Linux subforum !!!
i don't think that this is a good idea, BUT...
would it be possible to creat a "filter", so that we can filter threads out or only view threads wich are in our interests.
And every Thread-creator marks a few options do define is thread.
This would be much better to search for special things like wm6.5, tf3d 2.5, or only wm6.5.x, wm6.5.x+tf3d2.5....
greets
Terrorhuhn said:
i don't think that this is a good idea, BUT...
would it be possible to creat a "filter", so that we can filter threads out or only view threads wich are in our interests.
And every Thread-creator marks a few options do define is thread.
This would be much better to search for special things like wm6.5, tf3d 2.5, or only wm6.5.x, wm6.5.x+tf3d2.5....
greets
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As it stands users who create threads can tag his/her threads with 'code words' which help for filtering when using the 'search option'
All we need is for people who create threads to use this option.....it already exists!!!!!
Hm... i thougt we couldn't search for things with only 3 letters.
Or is that possible with the "[]"s?
Cool, than it would be greate if all people would mark their threads with the right [...]s *gg*
greets
I for one was out of the game for a while and came back to see 6.5 everywhere. I'm not particularly impressed and prefer a tweaked version of my original 6.1 ROM. I use the search function extensively for some tools and such that I used to use, but the problem is so many things from 6.1 carry to 6.5. Keywords and the like don't really change that much in the evolution of operating systems, so while I did find what I was looking for from several months back, it took an awful long time. Subforums would make things easier to find, and potentially cut back on useless posts because the information wouldn't be as chaotic. I understand it wouldn't be as easy as snapping fingers to make it happen, but with the various groups who follow the Blackstone, subforums would make information more accessible. Just my nickel's worth.
Bit of info for everyone
I've recommended that the Blackstone rom development forums be split into 2 sub forums
Android development & WM development
Think this should be enough at present to help de-clutter the forum. I still don't see a need for further sub-forums. People just need to learn to search!!!!!
Understand, this is only a recommendation and if may not be granted
EDIT - FLar has created a new thread with a poll to enable you to vote for the rom development forum to be split into Android development & WM development
In post number 6469 a Senior Member (Raptordin) has suggested that Manila 2.5 can be cooked with 6.1.
I don't like nagging cooks for specific features in ROMs because they do such a great job at perfecting the ones they have started...
BUT, I though I would throw this out to the wider community and ask if anyone is contemplating developing a 6.1 ROM which utilizes Sense 2.5. If you think about it it makes perfect "sense" (pardon the pun) since, I assuming, you a using the operating system the device has been optimized for.
Any thoughts? Or are we just dreaming !!!
Cheers
Asp
I also vote for this combination. What are the problems of using it?/6.1+2.5/
thanks
yeah that would be awesome!
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Miri already did this...it is discontinued now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547278
I did not do this myself but maybe you can get a pre prepared kitchen from another device and remodulate it for Blackstone.
You can try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595380
and you can also use the sources in this kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580350as it has both 2.1 and 2.5 for Blackstone.
And ofcourse you can read all what could help you in this kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824 as sparkienl is one of the biggest chefs for Blackstone and he is very helpful when you ask meaningfull questions he is always ready to reply with suitable answer.
Raptordin said:
I did not do this myself but maybe you can get a pre prepared kitchen from another device and remodulate it for Blackstone.
You can try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595380
and you can also use the sources in this kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580350as it has both 2.1 and 2.5 for Blackstone.
And ofcourse you can read all what could help you in this kitchen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824 as sparkienl is one of the biggest chefs for Blackstone and he is very helpful when you ask meaningfull questions he is always ready to reply with suitable answer.
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Thank you for the reference material - Might give me a new obsession to annoy the wife with....This boy might learn to cook.....
Some more material can be found here http://rapidshare.com/files/348151623/EXT_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.05.531.4.7z