Is there a way to set this up?
Basically if I go to update weather, it will use data connection and costs a good pay per use (no data plan for me)
Similarly for Browsing...
If I want to update weather and browse, I want to do it via Wifi only and not the network itself..
At least the browsing should ALWAYS be by wifi
Weather might be allowable to go under data
If anyone has a way to force data connection to always remain off (regardless of what a program tries to access!)
This is a redundant thread; either use Modaco NoData or delete your data network settings.
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Can anyone tell me how this works on the wings.
When using Fring you can actually tell it to conect via wifi etc. but what i want to know is does mesenger do it as well or does it go straight to the gprs. Also when you go online via IE. does it default to the GPRS. I dont see anything that says to use the WIFI conection first and it looks like messenger and IE use the GPRS instead even though i have wifi enabled or am i wrong here.
Thanks ahead
By default, all aplications (IE Mobile, Messaging...) use GPRS, 3G (or other cellular network). If WiFi is on and available, all aplications are using WiFi instead of GPRS. (Only Fring has a bit different connection handling)
What Moneytoo said, only sometimes when I enable WiFi on the phone it wont turn off the data connection so I usually do that manually in the connection manager.
When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.
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OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.
phailo said:
When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.
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Very true, but I notice (and speculate) that you only cannot select enable or disable the Data connection unless you change or add another connection, or the phone is using it. If I wake up in the morning my phone is using data since I have the HTC home screen with its weather application, hit comm mngr and data is grayed out, but once the phone wakes up or I select Wifi and it starts working again the option to disable data comes up.
For me I just load or refresh the weather page and my data is connected, its set to always be on and since my plan is unlimited I dont worry about it.
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OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.
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Depends on what you are loading honestly, a page that your mobile browser has to read, compress resize and modefy to display properly will take time to load while it does all of this regardless of how fast your connection is. Could also depend on what others are using your connection for and if your on the B or G standard. Overall I notice a fairly good increase from using Wifi but I am only on Edge here which caps at about 20kb/s where 3g can get into several Mbits/s
Im getting some very expensive data bills coming in from when I am roaming. I get a popup whenever my email trys to connect asking if i want to connect and incur roaming charges. I deny this and use webmail from my laptop. I do not use the internet or anything else. Yet Ive still used 4MB in 24 hours while in Germany a couple of weeks ago!
Is there an app that can tell me what is connecting, when and how much data it has transferred?
Ie..
Weatherpanel - 29/06/08 @ 14:10 - 130kb
Outlook - 02/07/08 @ 07:00 - 30kb
Does Phonealarm or SPB monitor go this indepth?
could you not disable all connections and therefore have no charges?
Try spb gprs monitor and see....it has a free trial
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/?en
And like Humz said, you could always just kill your gprs connection altogether under settings and/or using Modaco's NoData
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could you not disable all connections and therefore have no charges?
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phoneAlarm (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html) will allow you to turn on/off the data connection based on the profile - and the new v2.0 can automatically switch the profile when you are roaming, so that you have no possibility to connect when roaming.
The data tracking in phoneAlarm will show the exact amount of data transferred - but not which application was responsible.
LCMinutes
Another good app is LCMinutes. I have free 500MB of data transfers to be used every month and I use LCMinutes to make sure I don't use any more than that.
You can get it here: http://lctools.blogspot.com/2008/01/some-links-to-lcminutes.html
So, I had another topic about gprs but now I'd really like to know how to force the wifi over gprs. Also how to disable the gprs without deleting the settings ?
No need to make another thread about the same topic which is one below this one.
Best way I have found is in the comm manager disable the data connection and enable wifi, some things like weather and such have issues using wifi for updates, and sometimes I found texts would not go through on just wifi.
Then when your done disable wifi and trigger the gprs to reconnect, just remember not all applications like to work on wifi.
It doesn't work like that. Eve though I disable data connection and enable wifi (which connects ok), phone still insist of connecting to gprs.
Is this really this stupid thing that I must delete my gprs, which I use daily anyway but which is extremely expensive when traveling to other countries and using it there.
If I have Wifi(personal) and disabled my data transfer, does web usage of the internet use up my data plan?
It should not. You need to be very sure that your data is disable though. I call AT&T and tell them to put a data block on the line when I don't have a data plan. It means no MMS (SMS are still possible), but at least you are 100 % sure. Alternatively, I have also just changed the connection settings on the phone (e.g. add an "x" to the end of the line so that it can't connect, etc). But yeah I use wifi all the time and have no data on the Diamond.
Hey guys the G1 data plan is getting too expensive for me and I'm planning to cancel soon. After I call in and cancel, how can I get my G1 to stop trying to access the internet unless its Wifi? Or once I cancel I won't have to worry about this?
I also heard a rumor about changing the APN settings so you can still have and use the internet? Is this true?
no real way to stop the phone from accessing the web since even in the background it sends packets of information. that's just how the phone works that's why you need the data plan for this phone.
i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i just said no there is no way to to shut off the internet due to the fact that the phone requires you to have a google account to run it even if you flash a adp build and skip the logon proceedure the phone still access the web in the background without you knowledge you will still get billed for data charges at t mobs data rate which i think is 25 to 50 cents per meg used.
disable auto sync
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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the problem is even with auto sync off the phone still polls the internet in the background for updates and other things you could remove every internet reliant app off your phone and it still polls the internet it just the way android is designed he want to stop all internet traffic which is impossible without hacking the rom beyond what we do or pulling out the sim. even google maps requires to poll the internet in the background without him even turning it on. it's just impossible to stop it completely.
Install APNdroid.
Easiest, simplest, most reliable way: Go into settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point names, then click on each one and hit menu then delete. You will also need to finangle with tmobile through their customer service number in order to get them to cancel 3g for your G1 (they have some kind of a policy that's supposed to mean that you have to have an unlimited data plan with the G1, but if you're patient with them they'll let you cancel and just have voice.)
Even easier way. Download Toggle Data from market. That's what I've been using since I cancelled my plan. No more data in the background, so my battery life is longer. Sometimes my phone goes like 2-3 days without charge. (Of course without using wifi)
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
Before I bricked my G1, (I don't have a data plan) I just went to the T-Mobile store and told the guy what I could do to stop the internet. He just changed some kind of port number and stopped the internet so I don't get charged.
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apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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i wasn't talking about apndroid
i was talking about the guy who told him to delete all his apns
if i use apndroid will i still be able to use wifi? also im using a JACHero's rom and i noticed this in the settings...
Data Sync > Google > Background Date Usage [X]
APN Droid only kills the data.
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apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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No, the APN controls cellular data (internet and MMS) only. Voice and SMS are "built in" so to speak - as long as the SIM matches yoru carrier's records, they will work.
Deleting the APNs (or using APNdroid) will block cellular data, leaving voice, SMS and WiFi internet unaffected.