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[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks

1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.

Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?

alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.

No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^

Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?

He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-

Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!

Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.

This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.

As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.

Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake

Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!

I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

Problems/Stock ROMs

Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.

Tyrrell9 said:
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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I've never once flashed back to a stock rom in-between custom roms (and I've tried a few) .
But I have also heard that it works for some people having issues with flashing. If you are using uspl, then your stock spl is still intact and you should just be able to flash back to a stock rom (AFAIK in any case - sorry you can see I use hspl)
You can find many of the shipped roms (stock) here
Depending on the rom you choose and your current spl you may get the blue/green screen after the flash, but that would only be due to a rom/spl mismatch.

Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?

Tyrrell9 said:
Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?
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Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.

ClydeB1 said:
Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.
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Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.

Tyrrell9 said:
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.

Tyrrell9 said:
Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.
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My pleasure - hope you come right.

jigners said:
Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.
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What stock ROM have you been using? I've only been having problems with 6.5 roms, 3.9xt was the only one I've used so far that's worked flawlessly.

Hallos Tyrrell9,
they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong.
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Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved

caved said:
Hallos Tyrrell9,
Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved
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All true, but some of us have this strange addiction that needs to be satisfied regularly....
Undoubtedly and Unashamedly a member of Flashaholics United

Hallos ClydeB1,
If u enjoy flashing 4 roms a day to see if one or other rom will run better go right ahead, that seem to be a hobby in itself for some people. If thats is doing any good to you or ur HD ? Doubtfull but who am i to judge...
I just said that things don't have to go bad after a period of time becouse it doesn't have to be that way, u are the boss and not ur windows OS.
Greetz
Caved

root help!

i know i think i might be at the wrong forum but i thought i might get help over here....i have unlock the boot loader fine, then i installed the super boot and flash the recovery image amran 1.6.2 fine, i backup my nan and now i like to flash it with cyanogen rom 5.0.4.1 do i need to update the radio or put the add on for this before i do continue...please help!!!! thanks
i have radio:4.03.00.21.2
do i?? or just flash it directly and how about addon???

xghostyxjokerx said:
i know i think i might be at the wrong forum but i thought i might get help over here....i have unlock the boot loader fine, then i installed the super boot and flash the recovery image amran 1.6.2 fine, i backup my nan and now i like to flash it with cyanogen rom 5.0.4.1 do i need to update the radio or put the add on for this before i do continue...please help!!!! thanks
i have radio:4.03.00.21.2
do i?? or just flash it directly and how about addon???
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you do not need a new radio. I am still using stock radio! and maybe try this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639637 its a supermodified, sexy, feature-rich cyanogen rom

theres alot of deferent ones which is suggested for the most out of it???

if i decide to flash the desire rom do i need to update the radio then??? isnt it always is good to keep up with the radio??? if so how do i do the update i have it ere38 i beleive???

xghostyxjokerx said:
if i decide to flash the desire rom do i need to update the radio then??? isnt it always is good to keep up with the radio??? if so how do i do the update i have it ere38 i beleive???
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Hi xghost. You dont have to update radio to flash desire roms.
You can update it if you want to but remember, flashing the radio is the "only" way to brick your phone. Not a high chance but higher then most other things you can do.
-Roger

okay thanks...so since it is my first time using the root for nexus one...im going to flash it with 5.0.4.1 do i flash it then flash the ere38 add on that is on the page or???

From Froyo back to a Custom Rom?

I searched around quit a bit and couldn't find this info.
If you go to one of the Froyos, with/without radio, is it possible to just flash it back with another custom Rom over that and all is good?
Just wondering if there are any gotchas like if you put the radio update on etc...
Thanks

how about using search!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687795

craigacgomez said:
how about using search!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687795
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One person in that thread claimed, with an unlocked bootloader, that he just put the old radio and custom rom on the card, and did the usual wipe and flash and it worked fine.
Others that posted were all over the place, including some convoluted approach that pretty much wiped everything on the device and SD card to get it back to stock..which I don't care about stock. I just want to be able to go back from 2.2 to my Modaco R21 if necessary without any gotchas.

Yes you can just flash any ROM like you normally would. I've done it a few times now in the last few days. I did the old radio and all.

RogerPodacter said:
Yes you can just flash any ROM like you normally would. I've done it a few times now in the last few days. I did the old radio and all.
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Thanks.
So I got the original radio, plus my R21 and intersectR kenerl setup I know is good.
Looks like you just flash the radio, then the Rom and kernel and setup again...
Thanks for the reply.

[Q] What is a Radio?

Ok, so this is a newb question so bare with me, i just rooted my phone and installed CM 6 only an hour ago (hurray). But I dont know what a radio flash is or how to handle them? Can anyone help me out, please dont yell at me for not searching, imagine how many thread with the word "radio" would pop up.
-Cheers and thanks

its what gives you the signal on your phone, usually improves signal or gives a feature of some sort.. some rom NEED the new radio update if there is one
simple as i can tell you without gettin all techy nechy

ilostchild said:
its what gives you the signal on your phone, usually improves signal or gives a feature of some sort.. some rom NEED the new radio update if there is one
simple as i can tell you without gettin all techy nechy
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how do you install one? do you just do an update.zip recovery install?

Blueman101 said:
how do you install one? do you just do an update.zip recovery install?
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forgot to mention that part, if there is a new Radio out for your phone usually a Dev, will pull it out of a OTA update , and make a update.zip already, and all you have to do is into recovery and flash it over... and some stock roms will push out a radio-ota(rare i belieive) but thats it.. so for froyo radio Cyanogen has a updatezip for froyo radio, you can grab it place it in sdcard then boot into recovery and flash! wa-la got new radio, i also believe you can flash via Fastboot too

Thanks man, i currently have CM6 installed and some other Roms in the Dev section, that i was looking at testing, say you gotta install a radio, so thanks for the help.