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I dont think 3D drivers exist on Diamond or TouchPro

Just because opengl es and D3DM work doesnt mean that the GPU is doing the work. I think all we have here is a software rasterizer that is using the CPU. There is no evidence that i am aware of that proves the graphics chip is active. Here is the evidence i collected that shows how the graphics are rendered.
1. In Touchflo 3d,if you go to the settings tab,and click about, there is a list of all the technology used to develop TF3D. Where it says opengl, there is a copyright 2004 Hans-Martin Will. Hans-Martin Will started the vincent3d opensource opengl es project, which is a SOFTWARE implementation. Basically what this means is,Touchflo 3d uses this graphics library to render graphics.
2.The D3Dmobile driver is only a wrapper around opengl ES. Why would we need a wrapper for D3DM if hardware drivers were present? What this means is that D3Dm is also rendered by software only. Notice how DirectDraw is also slow? Thats because there are no drivers.It wouldnt make sense for drivers to allow 3d acceleration only without support for 2d.
3.Samsung Omnia drivers work on the Diamond/Raphael. Huh? These two devices dont even have the same graphics chip. How can a driver for one graphics chip work on a completely different brand/model/type of graphics chip? It cant. The only explanation there could be is that the omnia driver is also a software rasterizer and thats why it works with the htc devices.

that sucks, because it makes sense..

most interesting...
i smell conspiracy...

so true.......................................

Play a very high quality MP4 (h.264) in software mode (with coreplayer for an example) and watch your diamond completely choke, then launch the same video with windows media player and see the difference!
That's one proof of hardware acceleration at least...
Also I highly doubt a game like Xtract would run as great as it does on the Diamond without any hardware acceleration, the graphics and framerate is way to good for the cpu to handle in only software mode, even if it was just drivers.

Aha, that is perhaps why iGo runs way better on my old tek S200 than on my fresh, new touch diamond.

mayby if you read the posts & topics
then you would see there is a 3d driver
just use de diamond ati 3d driver
my diamond goes from 0.2 fps in the hologram program to an stable 25 fps
Thats a hole inprovement
Ps sorry for my bad english
and i also included the driver in the attachment
Greetings Nossie

Hm, where did you find that? It didn't notice any differnce in the slowness of IGO really..Why isn't that installed by default?

disagree...
test the software and hardware versions of COD 2, THPS 2 and NFS Undercover. See the difference: 3D acceleration not only improves the texture and graphics in general, but the framerate. I think if it was just some kind of emulation 3d, improved graphics would worsen the framerate, but what you see is an increase in FPS! Therefore, I believe there is actually hardware acceleration.

d3d on shift

hi, it is possible run d3d ? there was released on htc kaiser. But shift has small memory and i dont know how much 3d graphic needs. Maybe for tests it will by good to see

d3d work on the shift. Speed is extremly slow as it is software emulation. You can try the kaiser pack on the shift if you want. My first rom (GPS only) has d3d enabled.

I sell my shift before christmas, but i cant find good device with big dislay and good keyboard so i cant try it, But the question is why is so slow? does it due to the ram? Chipset is same.

thaihugo said:
d3d work on the shift. Speed is extremly slow as it is software emulation. You can try the kaiser pack on the shift if you want. My first rom (GPS only) has d3d enabled.
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HI THAI
i remeber your first rom with d3d. indeed the d3dm software is not good for such a device . the 3d navigation with garmin xt and other java sofware was very laggy. i tried to patch the samsung omnia d3d software but their was to many dependencies in the registeries and i did not sucess. i thaugt to implement the htc class action drivers with the 6.1 kernel from udk (the hybrid one ... alpha 1) , but i know it is useless with the actual wince limitation of the shift. for now gps navigation should be used with th x86 motherboard. also gaming should be done with vista as well, with a good usb or bloothooth pad

hi, i saw videos on youtube like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBaJ9rsMGI0
and i think, that there is good 3d potencial. I dont need 3d gaming on shift, but i mean improve scrooling a some graphic on wm side

alocate memomory
does anyone know, how much memory is alocate for d3d graphic on tytn 2? How much is optimal for qvga, for vga? Shift has small memory, i think it is posible ma 16mb for 3d, but the less than 10mb is too little to run other programs

quick question about fpsece 9.6(htc tilt)

hey guys just a quick question about fpsece 0.9.6 on the tilt
i was wondering what i can do to increase speed or fps. got the htc performace tool and overclocked to 520, but i se no diference, installed gfx boost and stil nothin. but is there anything else i can to? like a specific video driver or anything?
all help is appreciated

FPSECE on i8000

Hi every1..
Has any one here tried FPSECE on Omnia i8000..
If yes.. then can some 1 plz give a instruction guide step by step.. from installation to configuration.. and key mapping..

i hope that i can put external link...
www .youtube.com/watch?v=RCqfG5DleZY
on Omnia2 it doesn't run so smoothly...

Thanks for that link.. I have checked various tube videos running PSP games.. I am actually looking for a setup guide for our Omnia..

fpsece is the best app ever developed for winmo
i have fpsece .10 on my i920 working quite well, maybe not as well as a 1ghz snapdragon but whatcha gonna do... anyway installation is easy just install the cab, load some roms on ur phone or card and place a good bios file in the bios folder in /program files/ fpsece/ bios. setting up virtual keys should be pretty simple just open the app click on the virtual keys tab, click where u want it on screen and choose which button u want to place there. fpsece is the best app around for winmo and version .10 is leaps and bounds ahead of previous versions. if u like it u should definately donate to the devs., plus u will recieve some extra features like save and load states. if u have any more questions or problems i'll be glad to answer as best i can, there's also tons of support and advice at fpsece.net/forum2

Thanks every1..
I got it to run on my Omnia 2.. was unable to change to potrait from landscape mode.. but workaround it using Graytor..
However when I play Tekken 3 the FPS is just 14.. very slow..
NE1 knows how to increase FPS.. my CPU is set to high performance...

hey guys,
is there a way to increase FPS..!
Most of my games run on low FPS. I have seen videos for Omnia 1 and the fps is more than I am getting it on my Omnia 2..

Because Omnia 1 processor/drivers are faster

Omnia 2 has 800mhz processor which is faster than Omnia 1

Can i Increase the Glyph cache to get more FPS..
I mean increase Glyph cache to 4194304 from HKLM\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\limit
Will it work..?

[Q] Any Chance of Windows Phone 7 Here???

Hi does anyone think there will be a chance that windows phone 7 can be ported onto the HTC Diamond, I've just seen the first look videos for the 3 new win 7 phones and the new OS looks awesome
would appreciate an answer
thanks

no i think.....because wp7 requires direct 3d hardware accelerated gpu and diamond have an opengl es 1.1 hardware accelerated gpu....diamond can run d3d apps or games but the driver is a translator from d3d code to opengl code....

but if the driver is translating the code, can't similar be done to wp7, then the graphics might work but it would be slightly slow

yes the graphics will be very slow......i think so maybe...hope i'm miss!