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Simple Yes or No.. MediaNet PPU charges

I have mediaNet unlimited... I just upgraded to the 2.23 rom by summiter which in the connections it shows "myISP" and not mediaNet......
Will I get charged Pay-Per-Usage?

There is no simple answer to is. Using My ISP or Media Net (the only difference is the use of proxy server) does not matter to the billing. I use My ISP all the time w/o being charged PPU. First, make sure PPU is not showing up on your account features. Many times, CSR will forget to take it off when adding Media Net or even PDA connection. Secondly, don't over use the data. If your data usage stands out, Cingular will definitely take a close look at your account and decide you should use Media Net plan and slam you with PPU.

Thanks for the reply.
I think that I will just flash back to the summiter 2.17 rom. I know that I didnt get the PPU charge on it. (just as a precaution) I am almost certain it had MEdiaNet in it in.
let me ask this... is thier a cingular CAB file that will set up the settings ?

why not just use the medianet profile as default if you are worried about it? the settings are in there, just not as default.

jmel said:
why not just use the medianet profile as default if you are worried about it? the settings are in there, just not as default.
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I didnt see it at all. dunno

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see what I mean?

You need call and ask them remove that PPU from your account. You're being charged PPU right now.

foxbat121 said:
You need call and ask them remove that PPU from your account. You're being charged PPU right now.
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Agreed... I just loaded the 2.17 rom and all is good now.. the proxy and all that good stuff is in there.

Again, I and many others don't use proxy server because of Wi-Fi issues. As long as PPU feature is not on your account, it really doesn't matter you use proxy server or not. You need call CSR to remove that *feature* from your account regardless. Sooner or later, it will bite you with a huge bill even if you're using proxy server.

Internet Fails Me

I live in a 3G area, and ever since I've started using Custom ROM's, I've noticed that while I can get on pIE and surf the web at regular speeds, programs like Skype cannot access MEdia Net (I've got a Tilt). I've searched around the forum, and I've been unable to find out why only pIE can access a data connection. This also applies to the Windows Mobile email. Thanks

You may have to Able/Disable the proxy settings. Run a forum search on AT&T Proxy settings.

I've checked everything, and my AT&T proxies are correctly configured. Everything is right as far as I can tell. But when I try and get my email through the default outlook thing, it says "Synchronization Error" and then a popup comes up saying that it cant connect with my current settings.

Have you tried this?
Depending on the ROM you may also have to install the default Media Net settings found in a separate CAB.

I've already installed that cab to no avail :O

Sorry.....
OK! Then I'm of no use to you as I have no other answer than flashing back to the OEM ROM. I haven't ran into that problem so my experience at fixing it is limited. Have you tried searching the WIKI or G.W.E.N.I.?

Yeah. I'm still researching. You use an OEM ROM?

My 8525 got a new ROM every week but my Tilt is still stock ROM... I'm happy with how it is for now. Waiting on the official 6.1 to come out and then go from there.
Good luck.....

thanks. I hope I get this sorted out

It fails you huh?
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Any how, on to the subject at hand. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Network. What are both set to? If you select MEdia Net and Click Edit. Then go to Proxy Settings What does it say>

I had the same problem with email
Here's what I did:
Hit the message key.
Click on the email you want to check (yahoo, aol, gmail, etc...)(must already be set up)
Click Menu
Go to Tools
Click Options
Choose the account you want to change
Click Edit account setup
Hit next 4 times until you get to a screen where it says Outgoing (SMTP) mail server
At the bottom of that screen it says "Advanced Server Settings" Click it
Where it says network connection select "MEdia Net"
Click done
Click next until it says Finish
Then go back to the email you just changed and try to download your email again.

Let us know if the above post fixes your problem and then add **Solved** to the title of this thread.... I'm curious to know.....
Thanks, j1981bl1

I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help

westsider_gw said:
I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help
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isp.cingular, I believe is for Tethering plans. And just regular MEdia Net uses wap.cingular. I think I remembered that correctly. If not someone will correct me.

PIE probleme

I reset my Tilt according to this link to get rid of AT$T bloatware according to this http://www.pocketables.net/2008/01/10-tips-on-fixi.html
The phone reacted much faster afterwords but PIE is having problems: links aren't high lighted, pictures aren't shown and when I try to download programs I get the "no permissions" error
Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this? Don't suggest Opera 9.5, as I tried to install this from a download on this forum and the installation froze after 20K

never ran into this .. don't know why ur installation of opera got stuck.. i have a copy of the opera mobile build by gsleon3 in my 4shared acct: link in sig. try that one and u should get a install. also take a look at opera mini. i prefer it over pie and opera 9.5.

Awsome you said to do what he asked you not to.
Did you verify your connection settings for media net or whatever it is that you use?

ChumleyEX said:
Awsome you said to do what he asked you not to.
Did you verify your connection settings for media net or whatever it is that you use?
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thanks for the productive reply. my reason for suggesting was simply because he might have downloaded a bad cab or something of that sort. the build i recommended is a port from vga over to kaiser by gsleon3 and so far people who have used it are running it w/o problem.
and i don't think his isp settings are bad as he is only having this problem in pie; not in all data apps, or atleast he didn't mention he does.

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thanks for the productive reply. my reason for suggesting was simply because he might have downloaded a bad cab or something of that sort. the build i recommended is a port from vga over to kaiser by gsleon3 and so far people who have used it are running it w/o problem.
and i don't think his isp settings are bad as he is only having this problem in pie; not in all data apps, or atleast he didn't mention he does.
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Do be too mad at Sir Chums. He's just mad because the Score is Jimmy -1 Chumley - 1. And I'm going to get the lead!
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ACTUALLLY dear friend, he does mention a problem with data, he can't download opera. Also, how is you trying to help with opera helpful to this post. At least I'm starting at ground one by having him check the settings. I would say make sure it's plugged in first but of course this is a wireless device.
oldfossil did you installed the advanced config stuff which allows you to save temp internet files to the SD card? If so make sure it's saving to the phone.
Jimmy
I'm sure after your father digs mine up, he will be too tired to fight back. The vault and coffen are quite heavy.

Mine's Bigger

Ouch, I got stuck in a flame war!
Thanks for the replies.
I am pretty much clueless about newer systems (ergo the "oldfossil"). My brain is stuck in the days of pre GUI's when I did my programming and system building so it takes me a little time to figure stuff out in newer systems.
thesire: I couldn't find Opera in your 4share. I want to use Opera mobile or PIE over opera mini because mini doesn't allow secure connections.
So, my MediaNet is set to connect to the network using MediaNet. Is this correct? Should it be AT&T ISP? I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.

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thesire: I couldn't find Opera in your 4share. I want to use Opera mobile or PIE over opera mini because mini doesn't allow secure connections.
So, my MediaNet is set to connect to the network using MediaNet. Is this correct? Should it be AT&T ISP? I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.
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don't worry about your medianet settings they are fine.
Here is the cab for opera (its under the cabs folder)
http://www.4shared.com/file/5001468...126__Uninstallable__WM5_Compatible__QVGA.html
i would suggest downloading it on your pc and copy to your storage card (if you have one) and run them cab from there.

yes let's just forget your problem. It's ok.

chumley did u read what he posted ????
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I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.
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obviously problem w/browser not data connection. instaed of trying to argue read what the op is posting and help him.

OK you two. Sir Chums, The Sire, lets act like the adults we are. The benefit of a forum setting like this is people will come up with different answers.
Maybe Chumley is thinking of something in the Data Settings that the OP forgot. Maybe Proxy. Who knows the Proxy Causes weird issues.
And for TheSire, yes he asked about PIE but if he gets Opera working he won't have to worry about the PIE issue.

Thanks for more feedback.
I actually got Opera 9.5 working and have installed mini also. IE still doesn't give full content (some links are active, others are not; pics not shown).
An issue with Opera 9.5: When I try to log into my gmail account I get a blank white screen. Any settings/fixes I should be aware of?

oldfossil said:
Thanks for more feedback.
I actually got Opera 9.5 working and have installed mini also. IE still doesn't give full content (some links are active, others are not; pics not shown).
An issue with Opera 9.5: When I try to log into my gmail account I get a blank white screen. Any settings/fixes I should be aware of?
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I don't have that problem. The only solution I can give is to "Go around it"
Which is Download the Gmail.jar and install that in your Midlet Manager, which I believe you have since you installed Opera Mini.

Tilt wm6.1 tethering

anyone successfully tethered their tilt with wm6.1?

Absolutely. I do it daily (without a tethering plan even). What kind of problems are you having?

How?
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Absolutely. I do it daily (without a tethering plan even).
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Can you share how? I hate paying lots of extra bucks for tethering. I use it extensively and download a lot of stuff.
Jim

I hate reading another redundant thread regarding media net and teathering

wireless tethering with WMWiFiRouter is the best way to go. Google it and download.

michalopoulosgk said:
wireless tethering with WMWiFiRouter is the best way to go. Google it and download.
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I second that.... I am using Version 1.25 although there is an update to V1.30. I do not want to update since the version I have works flawlessly and I am used to it.

super easy, use file explorer or whatever software you use that does the same thing, go into the phones "windows" folder, go down to the program called internet sharing, copy it. Now go to you folder in the windows folder called "start menu" then "programs" now paste the program here or one of the subfolders. DO NOT PASTE SHORTCUT. now you should be able to go under start menu programs and start the program. You will probably notice that it says something like at&t isp, change that to media net, conect to your computer and press the tab that sais connect and you should be golden.

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I hate reading another redundant thread regarding media net and teathering
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then don't read it. no one is forcing you to. and allot of people don't have time to sit there and spend hours going through the many other posts that are not what they are looking for.

kemp509 - You rock! Works like a charm. I'm using it as I type this message. I can't wait to use it the next time I'm out of WiFi range.

BTW - I tested my speeds at http://www.speedtest.net/ and it turns out that my AT&T network has faster download speed then my home broadband by 35%! Upload was the same.

Wow...
I guess on my side my mobile connection won't equal my home connection anytime soon
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KD8DNS said:
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then dont read it

This may be a stupid thing but I get so far and then it wont connect. I get a "Connect Bluetooth Connection" screen asking me for a username and password. What am I doing wrong?

works great
Hey kemp thanks man it works like a charm.. So am i safe from ATT seeing i am useing my laptop. Dont want to see that terhering charge pop up on my bill lol?

Why is my TD2 randomly connecting to the internet?

Hi guys!
Could anyone please explain to me, why, although all "data-eating" features are disabled, my phone from time to time is constantly connecting to the internet? Push internet is disabled, automatic weather updates disabled, opera not working, mail receiving set to manual, etc, and it still tries to connect!!! What for??? Is there a way to prevent it without using heavy artillery like "nodata"? Generally, I'd like to understand why the bastard is doing it and feel secure that my phone is not secretly using a data connection in my pocket

Is it quick gps?

Could use some logging program to see what comms it is doing I spose?
I'm new to Win Mob so I don't have a name for one atm, but should be possible to google.

Discovered the same phenomenon, my device was surfing the web for more than 4 hours yesterday before I discovered. I disconnected the connection manually, after 10 minutes it was surfing again. T-Mobile says: Windows Mobile is doing it, there is no way of preventing it, but upon request they would terminate my mobile internet for good to "solve" the problem. I wonder what these people smoke these days....
Greetings, Studebaker

me too yesterday, just installed nodata...

Hello,
I am new one to WM, but I was wondering about it few days and I can say that you can stop it.
1. - you need to stop PUSH Pages in Internet - this is the most important, because I had there 5 pages prepared for Push internet and they were loading every 6 hours
2. stop Push Email
3. of course you can stop Quick GPS, but it is connecting once a week
You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
After that it is not connecting

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You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
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Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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I want Opera back in my taskmanager!

robinVerdegaal said:
Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.

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It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.
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So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?

robinVerdegaal said:
So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?
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I suspect so. It'll be remaining in the background in order to do the push internet stuff I reckon.

You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten

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You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten
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thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..

grabejud said:
thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..
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though i noticed that when i run back opera, it stays on the background again. cant even kill it even in sktools