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How often do you (have to?) reset your TyTN 2

Just wondered on average how often you all do a power down/soft reset??? Is this cos you have to or just good practise?
I normally do it about once a week due to something wierd like the WLAN not turning on, or I get the WM6 timer popping up all the time. This morning I went to wake the device up and it turned on instead so it must have powered off over night.
Otherwise its all working perfectly, I have do have phonealarm running.
James

once a day for hygiene.

Once a day or so. Wireless will not associate with my AP sometimes after it has gone to sleep. A reboot resolves.

Being a GSM phone you are, for what I will call network maintanance, suppose to restart it at least once a day. And it also being a WM phone, that is especially true. I restart my phone at least once a day, sometimes more. Sprite BU runs in the background at 3:00am everyday so it gets a daily restart without any interaction on my part.
I've own/owned a 3124, 8125, 8525, and now a Tilt. This has been the practice of mine on all of them.

I used to reset around once every week with my Hermes, but with the TyTn 2 I have got out of the habit. I'm using the unbranded Kaiser and I have only once been forced to do a soft reset other times I have done it were because I had installed something that required it. I have had it now for two months and in the first month I did not need to reset at all. Occassionally it will hang but always comes out of it by itself given a couple of minutes.
I have never had to hard reset. So not best practice perhaps, but I do not routinely soft reset (something that my Hermes 8525 could not do without)
Mike

mikechannon said:
I'm using the unbranded Kaiser and I have only once been forced to do a soft reset
Mike
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Interesting... I've only had the Tilt for a week, but now that I think about it, I haven't been "forced" to soft reset either.

Had for a week ....
Running all s/w in my Sig .... actively using 3G and HSDPA on Vodafone + Wireless and BT .... no forced resets yet.
Paul.

I learned a long time ago that anything Microsoft related like a reboot in the morning.
I soft reset it every morning on the way to work.
-Mc

I've had it for a couple days and haven't had to reset yet. My 8525 would go a max 2 days before going all to hell. This phone is still just as peppy as the day I turned it on...I LOVE IT!

How often does your Tilt (or Kaiser) restart on its own?

I've got my new Tilt from AT&T a couple of weeks ago. I love it so far!
However, I do have one concern. Five-six times already I saw my phone restart/reboot on its own. Has anyone experienced this? How common is this?
Additional info:
1. I don't believe this is due to any programs I installed: the first reboot occured on the first day before I had a chance to install anything.
2. There seems to be no correlation with the battery charge level, as I saw it happen with a fully charged battery.
3. It doesn't matter how long ago the phone was restarted: at least one restart ocurred within an hour after I rebooted the phone.
4. In most, if not all cases the reboot occurred when I was using Internet Explorer. This might be a coincidence though, as I have been using Internet Explorer most of the time!
And there was nothing unusual about the web sites when the restart occurred: absolutely no pattern, seem to be a totally random event.
What I would like to know, is this something I should simply blame on Microsoft (or Sun Microsystems for that matter) and get used to, or is there something wrong with my particular unit and I should replace it before the 30-day money-back expires?
Thank you!

I only had one random reboot in my month with the Tilt. I was changing views in SPB Imageer and suddenly... POOF! No problems with reboots before that or since then.

You're not alone
I've had the exact same thing happen to my Tilt as well. I have Duttythroy's big rom and I saw two soft-resets on my Tilt within a space of 6 hours a couple of days ago only. That was the first time and its not repeated that since.
I've had it for about a month or so now. The only thing I have "abnormal" on my tilt is that my trusty old SPB Backup that I've had since my good ol' days of XV6600 does not for some reason perform a backup if I set it to save the backed-up file in the memory card. It just hangs!!
So, I have to backup in the main memory, which thanks to the Godly Tilt is still around 130 megs free after 30 or so various program installs, and then move the file over to the memory card.
If anyone out there has some pointers suggestion for me to resolve this, I'll appreciate it.
AJ

Never seen a spontaneous reboot in 2 months or constant use. I use Spb Backup daily to microSD never a problem, check for latest version is all I can suggest.

Three weeks old unlocked TyTN II with stock WWE ROM. No hangs or resets.

never had a random reset
hey,
I've had my tilt for approx 1 1/2 months and never had a random reset. You might want to take it back and exchage it just for piece of mind. Just my 0.02.

Automatic reset? I cant remember one ...

never happened to me before

I had it happen to me on my VarioIII after only 10 mins! i wasn't even using it as I'd put it in my pocket. I only noticed because i felt the small vibrate as it reboots. I never had a single thing installed. It's never happened to me again though (as far as i know) in the last 4 weeks.

Thanks to everyone who replied! Sounds like it might be a good idea to replace the phone. My only fear is that the new one will have some other issues. But since majority of the users seem to be happy with their phones, I guess it's worth a risk!
Thanks again!

Spontaneous reboot? Never. Are you sure you didn't get one with Palm OS on it?
LOL.

My experience
I have had my Tilt for about 2 month. I have a lot of apps installed and reg. tweaks. I have had one or two freezes that required soft resets and zero spontaneous hard resets. Your situation sounds like mine with my old HTC pda2k - hard resets all the freakin time. Some on that unit were cuased by a defective high capacity battery, some not. I would definitely return it for exchange.

3 Kaisers in a row rebooting!!!
I bought a Kaiser a few weeks ago and have had 3 of them swapped and they all do the same thing. They reboot randomly throughout the day sometimes every half hour. I returned it for a credit and am sticking to my trusted Jasjam. Very dissapointing!!!
Also the keyboard keys are a lot stiffer than the jasjam making it very slow and tiring to type on compared to Jasjam (Hermes).
Cheers.

Htc Tytn II for 3 month and never had a problem.

no problem here

neither me had ever such a this problem .
i think my friend you must check for any 3rd party app you have installed in your phone..do a hard reset first to try it clean of any other software..
if it'snt something like this,you have to return it back to store for send it to service to fix it or replace it with a new one

Make sure the battery cover is completely secure. The only time I had an issue I discovered that the cover was loose.

stock att rom with the bloatware...no hangs no re-starts.

Well, two days ago I went back to AT&T and replaced my Tilt. So far so good: no restarts!!!

Never had this problem either. Using Dutty's V3 final rom.

Soft reset per day?

Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.

No problems for me, never had to do an softreset because of freezing up. Only because of my battery problem.

I soft reset a couple of times a week - just for good measure (after running memmaid or something to assure good operations). Don't think I've ever "needed" to other than during flashing and installations. Using Dutty's V2 (medium), but moments from flashing Q-Mobile 1.2. I tend to avoid things like cubes and S2U and such (justified or not, I see them as unnecessary resource hogs), but am hardly minimalistic as far as installing programs.
Perhaps you'd be happier with a "liter" ROM? I'm still testing to find the one I want to stick with. That being said, I love the V2 medium - just looking to appease my inner flashing addict.

i love it when ppl use cooked ROMs and then complain about issues...No offense to anybody. I used cooked ROMs on the Hermes as well. Not on my TILT. I do not have to reset the Tilt, but when I do is because a third party program freezes.
And also remember, any program that you install, might cause issues, because crappy programming...It's not necessary the OS...

Using Qmobile 1.2 for about a week. Might have had to soft rest once or twice. Not too bad. I think mainly because of Navizon though...

I never really had to soft reset due to crashes, but i normally do softresets after configuring registries that require soft resets. Otherwise, its on 24/7!!

I soft reset when I find my phone getting a little sluggish. It's like a computer, I figure, and I restart my computer multiple times a week. Either way, I don't think there's any harm in soft resetting too much.

I find I have to soft reset fairly often. Probably every day. I am using stock ROM but have installed a bunch of stuff, so I am suspicious of that.
I do have a Cube installed, and am considering dropping it off. Not sure if that will help or not.
I find that there are a lot of posts about various quirks on Tilt. And I will say, "Gee, that doesn't happen to me", and of course next thing you know it does. Some of the stuff is just me still learing how I can get myself into trouble. For example today my sound quit and I couldn't hear music from WMP. But it turned out that the problem was that sometime I had hit that little speaker at the top which opend the volume control, and before getting it closed I had deactivated sound. So even with volume at 100%, no sound. Interesting...
Anyway, as some said, I suspect combination of installing stuff causes issues. The more you install the more likely it will be problematic. But then, for me anyway, one reason I have this unit is so I can put stuff on it to make it productive. But then, after all, it is a version of Windows, so after a while, probably need to reload from scratch (hard reset).

yea most likely its the stuff u put on the stock? o men do some upgade.

I do soft reset about once in 14 days. I usually do it when my available RAM approaches 40 MB. Don't remember it has ever crashed on me except for a few times when usiing opera mobile.
Actually I after using the TyTn II for 3 months now I am starting to believe that the instability issues we relate with windows mobile are becoming more of a myth than a reality

I guess I soft reset too often? I do it about 15 times a day. By choice, though.

mick2021 said:
Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.
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just hard reset, it may help

I normally do a soft reset every morning when I disconnect my Tilt from the computer, since Active Sync kicks in every so often during the night and drains the RAM by running. . . but it's still between 50 - 55MB, even at that. Other than that, the only time I've had to soft reset is when an app would freeze up -- which isn't very often.

most of the times i soft reset is after installing a program or vice versa when it tells me it needs to do so...rarely will i have to do it cuz it froze or whatnot

I'm in exactly the same boat as bapssystupr3m3, I only soft reset it when an installed application tells me i need to do so.
Other than that, I frequently make sure I close all the apps that are just running in the background and my kaiser appears fine.

Only soft resets when schedule back up comes up daily. Other than the scheduled backup, no resets (so far *knock on wood*).

what's wrong with resetting the phone? It doesn't hurt..

I'm using the stock HTC rom, and can only remember one time when something locked up on me (a third party app) and I ended up soft-resetting, the only other times I've done it have been after installing/configuring new things. I guess in the normal course of things I maybe reset... once a week? Sometimes more, but never for any negative reason.
I'd say the uptime on this device is at least as good as my last Symbian-based phone, and the myth of Windows Mobile being unstable is just that - a myth.

I'm using the stock Tilt rom with just a few things installed and have to reset most days. Yesterday when I woke up I discovered my phone had crashed at 11:30 the previous evening when someone had called me. Today when I woke up an hour late I reset the phone because my alarms hadn't worked nor were the notifications for messages...

I soft-reset once everyday (in the morning). It's part of my daily routine now. I use ClearTemp program to clear everything (start menu, cache, etc.) and then soft-reset using that program as well.

sometimes when tilt sleeps, it wont wake?

hi,
about 2-3 times this week, my tilt would go to sleep, but when i press the power button, it would not wake. i know there is still power because of the blinking green and bluetooth light. any suggestions on how to fix this?

I think that's the "Sleep of Death". Do a search for it. For me, I did a hard reset and it went away.
Good luck!

happens to me also. So annoying, next time it happens call yourself and see if the phone wakes up or if it jumps straight to voicemail, i'd like to know mines hasnt done it in a while. I think it happens when you have it plugged into the wall for a long period of time and its sleeping. Like that night when you're sleeping.

I've had that problem a few times but its mainly only when its on the charger at night that it happens. What I've been doing now is just not turning it off at night when its charging that way the alarm goes off in the morning. Some people don't like it on as the screens not completely off and the light drives them nuts.

are you within the 30 day period, as in a new contract? I am on my 4th phone, the three before this one all had the same problem not waking, hopefully you are not past the 30 days and can trade it in, you could always try installing the new ATT rom, it might fix your issue I have heard it helped some, if nothing else its worth a try.

firefly77 said:
are you within the 30 day period, as in a new contract? I am on my 4th phone, the three before this one all had the same problem not waking, hopefully you are not past the 30 days and can trade it in, you could always try installing the new ATT rom, it might fix your issue I have heard it helped some, if nothing else its worth a try.
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Do youy use any other roms? Do you hard reset?

This happened for the very first time to me this week on my tytn 2. Fixed it by taking the battery out. Had my phone for 6 months.

my alarm didn't go off this morning for that very reason....good thing I have 2 other alarms...lol
I thought my problem was charging related, but I didn't charge it overnight...

I have had the same problems too , on my fourth phone now . What has seem to of helped was removing the micro sd card , doing a hard reset and for the last 4 days , had no further "sleeping" problems .
it would be interesting to find out whether you all have been using micro sd cards in your phones ( THIS COULD BE CAUSING THE PROBLEM) Or should I say a faulty sd card could be causing the problem .

also some interesting points regarding the same topic here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351404

~~Tito~~ said:
Do youy use any other roms? Do you hard reset?
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When I had the first three phones I was just typical "Joe Consumer" I had no idea about this website or any of the cool stuff I have learned here. So consequently I just knew there as a problem and it was pissing me off so I kept taking them back and swapping. If the 4th didn't work I was going to go with the iphone so I could have something to use when I travel to check email and other BS. But the 4th worked and all is well. Although sometimes i wish I would of got the Iphone just because of battery life and it is alot faster with applications than my phone at least. But I cant take that feeling of being in a Jail Cell every time I hold that thing...........

Xperia constantly resetting...

Hey all,
I posted a while ago about my phone having died and only having red flashing lights...I managed to solve that- thanks for you help, but now have a completely different problem.
Since then about a week has passed and approximately every 36 hours the phone seems to crash. When I take out the battery and turn it on again it invariably hangs at the Ericsson logo screen. When I then leave it off for a period of time (between 2 and 12 hours) I either find it starts to work again, or that I'll have the red flashing lights and have to leave it for longer.
When it does start working, it always seem to have been hard reset and I have to go through the set up again.
It's possible heating the battery speeds up how long it takes to start working again (although I've tried it with 2 batteries so I'm not sure why that would work) - and I'm not sure if that is actually the case yet or not anyway.
- It's very frustrating to lose all of my contacts daily, but I don't want to give up on £250 worth of kit... any ideas?
Thanks so much

welbis said:
Hey all,
I posted a while ago about my phone having died and only having red flashing lights...I managed to solve that- thanks for you help, but now have a completely different problem.
Since then about a week has passed and approximately every 36 hours the phone seems to crash. When I take out the battery and turn it on again it invariably hangs at the Ericsson logo screen. When I then leave it off for a period of time (between 2 and 12 hours) I either find it starts to work again, or that I'll have the red flashing lights and have to leave it for longer.
When it does start working, it always seem to have been hard reset and I have to go through the set up again.
It's possible heating the battery speeds up how long it takes to start working again (although I've tried it with 2 batteries so I'm not sure why that would work) - and I'm not sure if that is actually the case yet or not anyway.
- It's very frustrating to lose all of my contacts daily, but I don't want to give up on £250 worth of kit... any ideas?
Thanks so much
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LOL,
no idea why.
Installed any tweaking software??

Sadly no - and I've tried it with 2 different roms too

welbis said:
Sadly no - and I've tried it with 2 different roms too
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Heh, don't know.
Maybe some other rom's installation messed up something....

hmm... I faced the same problem...
So.. I did have to send it for repair :S ....

maybe i have the same problem... many roms tried, many soft and hard-reset, but the lifetime cycle of the phone before to re-flash the device is at maximum 1-2 days... now i'm trying the tips about quickgps (maybe could be correlated) on the thread in this forum... but the most probably truth i think that could be an internal memory rom damage... if anyone find a soluzion about this problem via software i'm here...

I seem to be having the same problem.
A week ago i tested the latest roms with winmo 6.5.1, after several roms i settled with a rom with build 23081, enabled htc sense, played around abit and went to bed and put the phone to charge. when i woke and touched the screen, the phone immediately froze.
After removing battery it froze again in SE boot screen and after second removal of battery the phone hard reseted it self.
The phone has been freezing and flashing itself ever sense, sometimes the uptime is minutes sometimes over day.
Currently the phone has survived 3 days without a spontaneous flash, the only difference is that i didn't bother to enable htc sense last time it flashed. So i enabled htc sense once again and will see if the phone survives a day.

ristiisa said:
A week ago i tested the latest roms with winmo 6.5.1, after several roms i settled with a rom with build 23081, enabled htc sense, played around abit and went to bed and put the phone to charge. when i woke and touched the screen, the phone immediately froze.
After removing battery it froze again in SE boot screen and after second removal of battery the phone hard reseted it self.
The phone has been freezing and flashing itself ever sense, sometimes the uptime is minutes sometimes over day.
Currently the phone has survived 3 days without a spontaneous flash, the only difference is that i didn't bother to enable htc sense last time it flashed. So i enabled htc sense once again and will see if the phone survives a day.
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i had approximatively also the same problem... i'm trying to understand what is the reason of this instable situation... gps location? memory? graphic instance that use HTC sense? is heavy to understand... if anyone could also find the right solution...

was having the same problem tried the method in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290 and it is working on my X1 so far

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was having the same problem tried the method in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290 and it is working on my X1 so far
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Did the "task 29" do anything?
I tried the method suggested but no change besides hard reset. And the X1 froze about 12h after that...

ristiisa said:
Did the "task 29" do anything?
I tried the method suggested but no change besides hard reset. And the X1 froze about 12h after that...
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ye mine did it again aswell this morning
i just tried hard reseting then install a stock rom then hardreset again and install a custom rom, will let you know if it works

Do you guys often use Opera Mobile?

Ahah!
Very encouraging to see other people had the same difficulties... and I suppose that it's just a question of making sure a fresh ROM flash works properly.
Sadly mine has reached the stage where it's no longer working for 'a day' before crashing... it's just pretty much dead.
Now I can bring up the tricolour screen if I'm plugged in, the ROM then begins to flash off the memory card, but crashes half way through every time.
I have tried this with 2 batteries, one of which (which I have used once and was working fine but only lasted 2 days before breaking) now does nothing whatsoever. The other lets me get half way through the flash every time.
- I can't send it back on the warranty until I reflash it myself (and I don't have a receipt anyway) so I'm going to go find a high street mobile fixing place and see if they can help.

hardresetting then flashing a stock rom (R3A generic) then hardresetting again then installing custom rom and hardresetting, definately fixed my phone, has been working for more than 2 days now it usually stops in less than 1 day.

FYI - high street phone guys managed to reflash the device for £15....it lasted 4 days but has just died again.