Oh joy. Now that HSPL is approaching and there is even a great-looking 6.5 ROM in the offing life is beginning to have meaning again (how sad that sounds).
Could anyone tell me what the situation with keyboard drivers on Rhodium is? While I absolutely want an English OS I would hate to loose my Scandinavian "ÅÄÖ" characters on the HW keyboard. On the Kaiser there was a small driver that had to be nstalled each time I got a new ROM. I'm guessing it will be the same for Rhodium? Is anyone with more IT competence than me (=anyone ) given this any thought at all?
Thanks/M
please note, that layout is different, i had this problem with touch pro first version, i had to use some addons created to have the layout for finnish
version.
You just need to change the layout as execine said. Sometimes you have to add the layout if a prebuilt one does not exist. I am sure it can be ripped from an official rom for your country of origin.
well if really WM sucks in this area, I need at least 2 languages - and layout changing will not help at this situtation - because these languages have totally different chars.
why it's so hard for microsoft to make ADD KEYBOARD like it's done in windows XP?
lol it's version 6.5, how much more releases they have to done - just before they'll do this pretty simple feature?
It actually does exist. My sisters old Wing had it. Talk to aserg and ask him how he did it. I don't know. He had a way to use 2 different hardware keyboard layouts by hitting a softkey.
yes, it exist. e.g. at rhodium russian edition there are special button even at hardware keyboard, to change layouts. but if you want to use it at your locale you need to hack it. becuase there is no easy way to activate it on another rom. all others solutions mostly works for virtual keyboard - and this way you'll get new visual design - what I don't want to do, and others just for hw keyboards - what is not ideal either
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yes, it exist. e.g. at rhodium russian edition there are special button even at hardware keyboard, to change layouts. but if you want to use it at your locale you need to hack it. becuase there is no easy way to activate it on another rom. all others solutions mostly works for virtual keyboard - and this way you'll get new visual design - what I don't want to do, and others just for hw keyboards - what is not ideal either
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Except my sisters device was an US device....
This thread has a hardware keyboard mapping utility. You can even have it run at startup. All that needs to be done is to create a custom layout file for the Scandinavian TP2.
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Hello,
I am trying to use my (German) Diamond with the old (English) Freedom Mini Bluetooth Keyboard. See http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=725
I could not find any drivers for this keyboard on the net anymore, but pairing does work fine without, basic writing is also possible (only z and y is switched). Though I have major problems with the remaining keyboard layouts, as almost all additional characters (!"§$%& etc.) are not there, where the keyboard layout says. Its always a try and error approach for me.
Does anyone manage to use it in a real "what you see is what you get" mode maybe by changing the language on the diamond or via a driver?
Is there any easy way to change the the keyboard layout (AEKmap might work, but with it I had to remap almost all keys)
Thanks,
Michael
Characters mismatch
I bought an Freedom Universal Keyboard² and have the same problem regarding some keys do not match up with the signs on the keyboard.
I also put an message on their help desk (a week ago), no answer yet.
Unfortunally the choises between the layouts in the driver is very limited.
Hello,
I am really thinking of getting the HTC touch diamond2. I currently have HTC tilt (or tytn II). I use it mostly for messaging. Anyways, my question is: how easy is it to type on the device? Is it as good as an iphone (better or worse)? Can you use your finger tips or do you have to use the stylus? Is there a video I can watch someone typing on it?
Thank you
I have moved from the Touch Pro (with keyboard) like yourself I used it for texts and emails, I thought I would hate the new keyboard but its pretty good, its got heptic feedback on the keys and they are nicely spaced out. Its very responsive to use, the best HTC keyboard I have used and I dont make many mistakes and dont have to use stylus.
new keyboard is great for typing...holding it in two hands a writing with both fingers without any mistake...
That is indeed good news. Can't wait until I get mine. Hopefully it arrives tomorrow. I also type a lot on it and I am hoping that will be a pleasant experience.
Personally I have gone from an AT&T Tilt (Full HW Keyboard) to the TD2 and also thought I would hate the lack of hardware keyboard, but it has really grown on me, and with no problems at all with typing I might stick with the TD2 instead of going onto the TP2. It just works for me, though lack of 3g sucks for me here in the states... lol
I'm thinking of maybe getting the UK version, cause the device is delayed here in Norway.
Question is: Is it difficult to access special symbols (letters) like Æ Ø Å on the UK keyboard?
I've never owned an HTC device so don't know how one normally access them. They are however crucial, and used quite frequently.
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I'm thinking of maybe getting the UK version, cause the device is delayed here in Norway.
Question is: Is it difficult to access special symbols (letters) like Æ Ø Å on the UK keyboard?
I've never owned an HTC device so don't know how one normally access them. They are however crucial, and used quite frequently.
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This is a very interesting question, I have refrained from UK version till now, waiting for the french version only to get a soft keyboard with french layout (including é, ç, à, ...). I do not care having the OS localized in english (in fact, i would even choose english over french for the OS), but the qwerty layout is a deal breaker.
Is it possible to change the keyboard layout? Or even better, add different keyboard layout and T9 dictionaries so they appear simultaneously in the WinMo entry switcher? I would love to just switch among the different keyboard installed if needed (having a french one and a non-western thai one would be great, adding japanese would be even better )
I ordered mine from Expansys and they told me, after having talked to HTC, that it would be possible to update the device to include different keyboard layouts. I hope this is correct, because I cannot be without Swedish characters. Otherwise, could Fingerkeyboard solve the issue?
Hi!
Originally I got the 20th of April as a dispatch date form KlartSvar (the reseller used by my employer), but as you say the device is delayed. I talked to a representative from Brightpoint this morning regarding the delay, and he said that the new delivery date to resellers is the 5th of May. Hopefully this is correct, I will wait until then before deciding if I have to look around for a WWE edition somewhere.
If someone could give some information about if it's possible to write accent characters on the WWE xT9 keyboards, I would appreciate the feedback.
I guess that cabs for all languages for EzInput2 (topaz HTC keyboards) will eventually be available anyway, when localized devices start hitting resellers in different countries.
Regards,
PK
nonexclusive said:
I'm thinking of maybe getting the UK version, cause the device is delayed here in Norway.
Question is: Is it difficult to access special symbols (letters) like Æ Ø Å on the UK keyboard?
I've never owned an HTC device so don't know how one normally access them. They are however crucial, and used quite frequently.
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jlp_svk said:
new keyboard is great for typing...holding it in two hands a writing with both fingers without any mistake...
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Are you using the default EzInput? And in landscape mode or portrait? I have a Diamond and had to give up on the Full QWERTY as well as the Compact QWERTY because I hated one-handed typing (and it was too small to type with both hands).
I am currently using SpB Keyboard on my Diamond, with the landscape fullscreen keyboard, and so far that has helped a lot. I can type really fast with two thumbs now.
Special characters are available with the WWE version using the HTC full qwerty keyboard. They aren't visible on the keyboard, but if you press and hold for example the a key a popup character selector appears giving access to
eight different variations of accent including the Æ and Å (I'm typing this on a MAC and don't know how to access these characters on it so can only copy and paste)
You can also used the standard WM keyboard and get at them by pressing the symbol key, but its really only usable with the stylus.
I've got a Diamond, so my question is how is the qwerty keyboard in portrait mode? The reason I ask is because I read a review that said the screen width has not changed between the Diamond and Diamond2. That doesn't seem right. Can anyone comment on both the screen width and typing in portrait mode?
Hi!
Thanks for the feedback! What about the xT9 dictionary then, is it possible to switch to a different languages in the WWE edition? If so, which languages?
Regards,
PK
shuflie said:
Special characters are available with the WWE version using the HTC full qwerty keyboard. They aren't visible on the keyboard, but if you press and hold for example the a key a popup character selector appears giving access to
eight different variations of accent including the Æ and Å (I'm typing this on a MAC and don't know how to access these characters on it so can only copy and paste)
You can also used the standard WM keyboard and get at them by pressing the symbol key, but its really only usable with the stylus.
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Hi!
Thanks for the feedback! What about the xT9 dictionary then, is it possible to switch to a different languages in the WWE edition? If so, which languages?
Regards,
PK
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Its locked to english, but there may have been an option to select a different language at setup time, to be honest I can't remember and don't want to hard reset to find out. Perhaps someone else will know? If its English only that shouldn't really be a problem, just flash a ROM in your own language when its available.
Got my D2 today. Very happy. But there is no language option as far as the keyboard goes. Have not tried fingerkeyboard yet.
Hi I want to buy a Touch Diamond 2 for brother in law who is Thai. He wants version that has Thai language.
Does anyone know which region version I should buy.
Normally, there is no any ROM that has Thai!
For Thai ROM is developed by Thai's web forum calls PDAMOBIZ.COM
But, it is still no ROM for Topaz, due to it very new.
However, if your brother in law can use english menu, there are some Thai company that sell Thai software calls ThaiWinCE and Thai-g (for me, now I recomended ThaiWinCE).
That you can buy from them via there homepage.
In the software, there will give you Thai input Keyboard, Thai Regional setting and make your WM phone able to read Thai.
poo1009 said:
Normally, there is no any ROM that has Thai!
For Thai ROM is developed by Thai's web forum calls PDAMOBIZ.COM
But, it is still no ROM for Topaz, due to it very new.
However, if your brother in law can use english menu, there are some Thai company that sell Thai software calls ThaiWinCE and Thai-g (for me, now I recomended ThaiWinCE).
That you can buy from them via there homepage.
In the software, there will give you Thai input Keyboard, Thai Regional setting and make your WM phone able to read Thai.
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There is also something called korechithai.cab that install thai fonts (and other south-eastern fonts I think) and basic WinMo thai input keyboard (to be used with a stylus, but it is better than nothing). I do not know if it is related to the ones mentioned in previous post (an earlier version maybe?), but afaik it is free, i did found it on Thai WinCE message boards. I installed it on my previous PDA, and re-installed it on my TD2. No compatibility issues, although the cab was for an earlier version of WinMo, it is still working nicely on 6.1 topaz...
It allows me to use free thai-english dictionary (there is also one hanging around, using the MDict engine), I will check during my next trip to thailand if it work for viewing thai characters in SMS in Touchflo and browse thai website...
But as the previous poster said, this will not change the WinMo menus, nor touchflo3D, not any pre-installed apps: those will remain in the language your Topaz came pre-installed with...which, in my case, is a blessing ;-)
Thanks for the replies.
I will try the korechithai.cab on my device later. If it is ok then I will just buy him a UK version.
I installed the korechithai.cab but now both my volume buttons & the call answer button no longer work.
Anyone have this problem & know how to fix it.
zen123 said:
I installed the korechithai.cab but now both my volume buttons & the call answer button no longer work.
Anyone have this problem & know how to fix it.
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Strange, I installed it too and I do not have this problem...Have you soft resetted your TD2?
BTW, after expansion my korechithai gives different cab:
KbdChinese.cab
KbdKorean.cab
KbdThai.cab
korechithai4ppc.cab
SIPChange.cab
I installed korechithai4ppc.cab first (this gave the thai fonts, so I was already able to read thai words in my dictionary after this install)
then KbdThai.cab, this added the thai keyboard (classic WM keyboard format, so stylus-oriented, or can work with fingers...if you have very sharp nails ;-) )
I did not install SIPChange.cab, this one is not compatible with 6.1 (or so it says in the instruction). I think it is intended for deeper change (program shortcuts, maybe some OS messages or menus), things I had no intention to change anyway.
I you have installed SIPChange.cab, I suspect it is the origin of your problem. I would try to uninstall it, and if it does not work, only solution I see is a hard reset, then try the installation of korechithai4ppc.cab then KbdThai.cab only...
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Strange, I installed it too and I do not have this problem...Have you soft resetted your TD2?
BTW, after expansion my korechithai gives different cab:
KbdChinese.cab
KbdKorean.cab
KbdThai.cab
korechithai4ppc.cab
SIPChange.cab
I installed korechithai4ppc.cab first (this gave the thai fonts, so I was already able to read thai words in my dictionary after this install)
then KbdThai.cab, this added the thai keyboard (classic WM keyboard format, so stylus-oriented, or can work with fingers...if you have very sharp nails ;-) )
I did not install SIPChange.cab, this one is not compatible with 6.1 (or so it says in the instruction). I think it is intended for deeper change (program shortcuts, maybe some OS messages or menus), things I had no intention to change anyway.
I you have installed SIPChange.cab, I suspect it is the origin of your problem. I would try to uninstall it, and if it does not work, only solution I see is a hard reset, then try the installation of korechithai4ppc.cab then KbdThai.cab only...
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Is it possible to tell me where to download korechithai4ppc.cab of better still can you email it to me. I have tried but can't find it anywhere.
The korechithai.cab I downloaded from here http://my.opera.com/cameron_en/blog/2008/02/03/ime-complete-installation-files-download-section does not work properly.
For anyone who's interested I have found a fully compatible version of korenchithai4ppc.cab at this link http://sinocom.ru/index.php?topic=159.msg3006;topicseen as you can see it is in Russian but all you need do is scroll down approx 2/3rds of the thread & the link for rapidshare is there.
hello all.
i just recently bought (2 days now) a shiny new X1 and i am quite pleased with it for the most part... except for some issues
so ... some questions;
build quality is ok but it feels like a wobble when the unit is closed during tapping. is this normal? in other words the screen sort of "shifts" around in movement ... is this normal?
my rom came with arabic support (the unit has arabic fonts lettering on the keyboard) however when writing a message i cant figure out how to turn the keyboard into arabic.. only the on-screen-keyboard displays arabic.
well thats all done with cause i changed the rom and even though i backed up following the steps in the tutorial on this forum when i restored the rom the arabic applications didnt restore nor did the fonts. i dont know why...
so now i installed many roms and even though i installed Mobidev (the arabic localization) the on-screen-keyboards only display english. for example, christian's rom, the valkrye rom, and the Unoff rom. all are english however i cant figure out how to add the arabic keyboard...
any help is appreciated.
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comeon guys... ???
It's normal that it 'wobbles', there are two parts (the actual phone and the screen)attached to eachother at two points I think .. not sure why SE/htc didn't decide to fix the wobble thingy though
thanks
any ideas on how to make the hardware keyboard switch to another language ?
get the regedit program on the forums and then find the keyboard code which uses arabic as its layout then it should work.
or you can always just look for a custom arabic rom , Hard-reset + flash the rom will always do the trick too.
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get the regedit program on the forums and then find the keyboard code which uses arabic as its layout then it should work.
or you can always just look for a custom arabic rom , Hard-reset + flash the rom will always do the trick too.
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Non-latin languages require more work, because they need to get the IME working whereas latin charset languages just need the characters and accents. I suggest you flash an Arabic ROM to make your life easier.
The au key should be the language toggle.
I have an AT&T tilt that has been out of commission for some time, finally repaired the screen and put it back to work. I decided to try the HTC Western EzInput since it was the same as on the new Tilt II and Pure that I've been looking at.
I put it on and everything runs as documented, just some SIP change issues and everything else seems fine, except the hardware keyboard function layout is all wrong. I have searched forums and google and can't find a keyboard layout file that matches this keyboard. This is not an issue to be fixed with the tilt keyboard fix, its more than just a couple symbols off, I can't even type numbers at all with the hardware keyboard.
I know I need a 4 row, 29 key, keyboard layout file to make this work properly with the eT9 settings, but I just can't seem to find one. I also can't seem to find the information needed to modify one of the existing layout files to match.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to adjust myself to using touch only, but their are situations where the hardware keyboard is just more useful.
Oh and btw, I am using shifu's WM6.5 WWE V4.2 rom and loving it, just want my hardware keyboard working properly
Double that for me as well. Every version of ezinput 2 i have found so far for qvga f*** up my keyboard layout. If there is a version that don't, I would love to see it.
What I would have to do was once I installed EZInput, I'd install the Tilt Keyboard fix (you can easily search the forum) then soft reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911