hi there
as of yesterday i accidentally dropped a jack splitter (like this one.. (click here) onto my pda2 from 1 meter..
at first i thought everything was okay
but then i realized that the touchscreen was not working.. the buttons are working..
though i hesitated that it'd never work again, after taking my imate apart and after i put it all together it worked for 10 mins.. then it stopped working again.. this morning it did the same, worked then stopped..
so my questions are:
1. can it be something other than the touchscreen? there is a small dent on the screen but the image on my today screen is displayed correctly..
2. if i really have to change the screen where would i buy 1?
i found this one but i want to have more options if there is
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexdaii.htm
thanks...
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Touchscreens are replaceable but make sure you buy the correct one, as the screen in Alpine is only one of 2 that could possibly have been fitted in Himalayas i.e a touchscreen for an xda2 is not guarenteed to be compatible with the LCD you have.
Depending on LCM, you could look into a repair of the exisiting digitiser, is the screen marked in any way where the item hit it?
Richard
p.s don't bump so quickly - do your research more thoroughly - you're not the first person to suffer this problem...
yes there is a small dent on the screen
i know i searched the forum but maybe i'm searching with wrong terms.. not much came up.
i don't know any other websites than the pdasmart.....
XtremeMaC said:
yes there is a small dent on the screen
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Then you need a new digitiser, the gap between the touchpanel and glass in the digitiser is reduced where the dent is, so the resistance properties of the digitiser have changed at that point i.e it will think you are always touching that spot. You could remove the plastic overlay, heat it gently and try and bend it back / flatten it but I've tried and never managed to do it
Most places only sell the entire LCD / touchscreen assembly, cheapest I can get for an alpine is about $140 USD for the lot, perhaps check ebay for a unit with a broken LCD?
Richard
Hi All
Spent awhile searching the forums (and the web) but couldn't find any relevant answers -- so here goes & apologies if it has been up before...
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
Could a few raindrops do this?
I have a Hermes/TyTN 'lying around', anyone know if the screens are the same/compatible, was about to start searching for part numbers etc. but thought I'd ask the question anyway.
Any help, answers, pointers or links would be appreciated.
TIA
You could always buy a new touch screen.
I saw one at dealextreme.com for 4.99 , probably not the best quality but you can always give it a try for that price
sku.14919
cnn.cn also has the part , but only in combo with the actual lcd screen.
Thanks RacerII -- will check it out..
Had a similar issue with the touch screen dying after an os crash the other night n thought it was dead. Did a hard reset and reflashed and everything worked just fine. Try the hard reset and reflash first before you think about any repair options
@kaalgoosy
Thanks for the reply -- did a hard reset as you suggested, no change -- about to try a reflash -- currently using L26's B1 ROM, have dl'd B4 and will give that a whirl -- only problem seems to be I have to bypass the Welcome/Screen Alignment section (no touchscreen!) and Activesync seems to be lacking/missing/not working -- so can only try the SD method -- just reading up on that now
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
no few drops of rain wont cause that damage...
most new PDAs and new gadgets in general including cams, portable ps... etc has a elements of water resistant+shock resistant and even an anti-magnetic field absorbtion (or something like) to reduce interference with other devices...
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My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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there must be another reason cuz first sign of water damage will be blurry display..
blackfoot said:
the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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get your phone inspected by a professional technician especially if under warranty (dont tell them it was affected by rain drops.. they wont know) it might not be a very fair thing to say but again who said life is fair
blackfoot said:
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
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Have you got a web address for the London supplier? I think my screen may be on the way out.
Good luck with the replacement.
@jahrami -- was using the Kaiser's camera to take some photos for my daughter, it started raining while I was taking the last couple. 15-20 drops or so (as I said). Dabbed this off with kitchen roll, put the phone away. Got home a little later, tried to use the phone, no touch -- played around, soft reset etc etc, but nothing.
The rain is the only thing that has happened to it -- the display is perfect, phone itself works perfectly, have hard-reset, reflashed ROM, still no touch control... and while in theory I agree with you that a few drops of rain _shouldn't_ cause this sort of damage, it seems it has. Checked the water damage strip behind the battery, it's white, assume this goes pink/blue or WHY when exposed to real amounts of water.
Sadly, warranty is out (by 1 month) & the local phone shops want £40 to strip it and look... £32 for a screen? I'll do it myself -- if it doesn't fix it, back to the Eten M700...
@ach2 -- tried to put a complete & direct link to the item, message box wouldn't accept it (very long url). This company sells on ebay too, slightly cheaper (27.99 +p&p) and under various other site names, feedback is positive and screens are new. Can't comment on the company personally, unless you wait for a week. Thanks for the good wishes, will probably need them.
http://www.sparepartsformobiles.com search for Kaiser LCD replacement.
OP:
Before you buy anything for 27 quid: Note that there are 2 elements to that screen, as was mentioned (but maybe not quite clear) in post 2. There is the actual screen, which is a liquid crystal screen with thin film transistors with a glass plate on top, but on top of that is a digitizer. The digitizer is literally 2 sheets of slightly conductive plastic put together to assess where the stylus (or your finger) is currently touching it.
The digitizer shouldn't cost you more than about 5-10 quid. The full screen is going to cost you about 30 quid. You definitely don't need a new screen.
I've replaced 2 digitizers and 1 full screen on my HTC magician (I'm very good at smashing it into things) and after I broke it again, I bought a used HTC tilt cause I felt that an upgrade was in order. I ordered the digitizers for the magician and the screens from a generic eBay store in Hong Kong, it arrived the US (Boston) after about 2 weeks, I would expect Old Blighty to be similar.
Greetings from "New" England.
lncdoc
One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
i will agree with such a temporarily fix, use a combination of virtual mouse
and voice commander and hotkeys shortcuts to navigate through your phone
look for second hand screen, there must be some around dude
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One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
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Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option
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@incdoc -- Greetings to you too, cousin -- yes I do realise the screen has a separate digitiser (see quote above from earlier post), and in fact, the same supplier has digitisers for £8 but after reading about the difficulties of separating the digitiser from the LCD thought I would save time, effort and money by replacing the LCD in its entirety. I can always play with the older one afterwards, and if I successfully split them will get a touch screen and keep the thing as a spare, which seems like a good idea, as there are now several more posts regarding the same or similar issues to mine, just within the last few days.
Are you suggesting that separation _isn't_ difficult?
@EGMine -- have to say that I haven't heard of VirtuaMouse One-Hand, will look it up -- thanks for the suggestion.
Jahrami -- thanks for the suggestion, about to check VirtuaMouse and completely forgot about Voice Commander, just changed my ROM to L26's B4, (after fault developed) so haven't set the phone up, yet -- but definitely will set up some voice tags.
Big thank you (for telling me something I should have thought of myself -- age really is a bummer!)
Edit** Dl'd trial of VirtuaMouse, good idea -- hard work! Combination of Voice Tags and scroll wheel much better. Eten M700 back in cupboard. ;-))
Dammit, dammit and dammit!
In the interest of rounding things off -- thought I'd post this to (almost) end my (little) epic.
Bought a replacement screen from the source listed above, £32, web price was lower with free shipping, but phoned the order through to get a quicker delivery. Arrived the next day, exactly as ordered. (Bravo!) No tools included, but I have some anyway.
Used Mike Channons guide to replacement (no mention of the sticky keyboard hinge 'finisher' anywhere BTW), all went as planned. Total time to replace about 1hr 15mins. (Not rushing)
Screen kicked in, onto alignment and yippee! -- touch working again!
Knew I shouldn't have had that celebratory cup of tea! -- put SIM in, followed by SD card, phone no longer recognises the SIM. Bu**er!
Stripped the phone again (impressed myself, took less than 10 minutes), checked to see if the SIM ribbon had popped off -- seemed ok, but popped it and reseated it anyway. Reassembled the phone, popped in the SIM -- Bu**er again.
Stripped the phone again (4 minutes -- not bad eh?), checked the SIM connection to the keypad PCB and 2 of the contacts in the socket look slightly mangled.
At this point now I'm wishing I'd gone for the £70 repair option, it's 20 to 1 in the morning (12:40 am to you), the eyes are a little fuzzy and I (once again) have a TyTNII 'kit' in front of me.
Oh well, there's always tomorrow -- now where did I put my Eten M700?
EDIT** Forgot to add a request, if anyone has a TyTNII in bits and wants to sell the keypad PCB, leave info or PM. Thanks.
EDIT 2** Oh well, seems like I _have_ kiboshed the SIM socket on the keypad PCB -- so hoping someone has one (keypad PCB or TyTNII) lying around will sell for bits?
Hi folks,
I have accidentally made the horrible mistake of letting my HTC TyTn II sit in a small puddle of water over night. That'll teach me for keeping my phone and glasss of water right next to each other on my nightstand.
Anyhow... It actually still works, which suprised me. However, 2 elements are not working. Specifically:
Touch Screen is not working. The LCD DOES display the image just fine, it just does not respond any longer to TOUCH.
The reset button seems to be completely non-functional.
After I got over the initial "oh &$*!" moment, I did some searching here and about for answers. I found some references to just replacing the digitizer, which I can get quite cheap on ebay. However, I also read that it might be a mainboard problem, in which case I might as well just replace it.
So, thoughts?
Also, here is the eBay auctions I was looking into. They seem reasonable? (if I decide to go that route)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180321388542
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270298172628
Thank you much for the couple moments of your time.
Also, in case anyone is interested, here is an interesting link with disassembly photos of the TyTn II. http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser
Hi,
I've had my Touch Diamond since August last year, so 08/2008 to 11/2009, just over a year and all of a sudden yesterday, I came to use the phone and the screen would not respond. (Never dropped, squezzed or got wet)
After resetting it, turning it off, on etc... its just not responding. The physical button lets me scroll the menu and I can receive and answer call, but the touch screen is dead?
I was looking at it in a shop today and it caught me eye that when the screen is off (in stand-by) it appears there is a kind oily / shiny looking square thin layer under the screen... I'm thinking its burnt out of something. its hard to see and you need the right light.
Has anybody seen this before or had it happen to them? Is the phone fit for the bin now? Whats the story with manufacture warranty (as I got it on eBay)
Unfortunately I lost my job to redundancy / recession not long ago, so can't afford a new one, any ideas what €150 / €200 would get me that has a nice big screen like the Touch Diamond, Wi-Fi and maybe GPS too... I've go so used to my Touch Diamond comforts that I don't think I could go back to a boring Nokia lol (I know beggers can't be choosers)
Would love a HTC Hero! Anybody want to sell me one for €200
Thanks for listening and letting me mourn the passing of my beloved phone. Any help / advice is much appreciated!
DG.