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Please please recompile stuff for the new processor, ask Qualcomm for sdk / libraries, do something, damn it !
I have a PDA i use in my car only for GPS nav (MIO P350 - 400MHz Samsung) and it plays movies better, not only speed (benchmark on same movie 172% vs 142% on the Kaiser with the EXACT same settings) but also less tearing in landscape mode. Oh, and the price was 3 times lower (i know, i know, GSM, hardware keyboard, etc, etc. but the Kaiser is supposed to be THE BEST THING EVER, with a new generation processor... crap)
Again, please release a new ROM that does justice to the processor, or stop marketing crap...
You do have a choice to buy other brands... ??
I personally find the Kaiser great just about any way. Yes there are components that could have been better. There's no doubt about it. But to call HTC product crap? That's just too much.
All i'm saying is that the processor has a lot more to offer, and on paper it's great, but the way HTC released the Kaiser it's like buying a super-computer, the best on the market, and you run things on it without drivers (you know how Windows runs / looks without video drivers)
I'm sure it will get better over time while they work out the kinks. The Danish version was released without World Card Mobile, but they are aware of that and will post an update on the eclub forum when its ready.
I'm quite satisfied with my TyTN II.
I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...
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I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...
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Then get rid of it. I am sure you can sell it on eBay for what you paid for it. I think it's the best thing on the market right now
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I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...
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I agree with you. It seems my Wizard OMAP 850(overclocked to 247) plays my 384kbps .wmv files better than my Kaiser... Shame. If by "tearing" you mean that the top half and bottom half of the vids skew sometimes when playing I also get that. Although I am not a expert I would say that the proc seems like it could be better optimized. Hopefully this will come about in future ROM upgrades. You can't blame HTC for wanting to capitalize on this. I mean people DID buy the crap out of it. They just better not leave us hanging. I hear the iMate Ultimates with the 500mhz proc fly.
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I agree with you. It seems my Wizard OMAP 850(overclocked to 247) plays my 384kbps .wmv files better than my Kaiser... Shame. If by "tearing" you mean that the top half and bottom half of the vids skew sometimes when playing I also get that. Although I am not a expert I would say that the proc seems like it could be better optimized. Hopefully this will come about in future ROM upgrades. You can't blame HTC for wanting to capitalize on this. I mean people DID buy the crap out of it. They just better not leave us hanging. I hear the iMate Ultimates with the 500mhz proc fly.
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Finally, someone who used windows mobile devices before and knows what it's all about.
About selling: like i said, it's like buying a good computer but not having good drivers for the hardware... why sell a good piece of hardware ? Ask the vendor for good drivers !
been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!
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been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!
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I agree, by now these devices should be easily able to outperform lesser devices. However, HTC hasn't done many tweaks to the underlying OS to make it a better user experience besides adding touchflo. Look at how well and fast the Treo 750 or 700wx run and all of the user enhancements.
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been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!
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At playing videos? I tend to agree with the OP... the drivers clearly aren't optimized for the hardware at this point. Given the specs, it should play videos better than pervious products, not worse.
the video part actually refers to direct draw mode, because there's nothing HTC can do about the other modes, it's raw processor power
my problem is with the system in general, i can see drawing when scrolling in program folder, which is using GDI, which is not optimized. I also see tearing (it's not VSync-ed).
Aaaand.... the cherry on top: i'm a programmer and this device doesn't support directdraw so good (ok, it's slow, i get it, but at least let me use it with back buffer...)
He called the MARKETING crap.
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.... But to call HTC product crap? That's just too much.
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Ahaa, someone else noticed that the software sucks : Qualcomm claims thier chip has hardware DirectX support, but our Kaiser doesn't:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745
btw: i'm not sure if Qualcomm lies or HTC is lazy, but something is really wrong here
HTC or Qualcomm or ATT or whoever should really address this. Watching .wmv(Microsoft's own codec for crying out loud) files is horrible. Horrible I say! I've tried it on 3 different Tilts. And for anyone to say it's not doesn't know what their talking about. Or has REALLY low expectations.
It's totally like the OP said. It needs video drivers...
Has anyone tried other codecs with TCPMP? Curious if it's any better. Unfortunately I've got GIG's of .wmv files...
The Kaiser came out right after I bought my Wing. I would have bought the Kaiser -- seems like an awesome phone, but now I'm going to get some mileage out of my Wing.
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Has anyone tried other codecs with TCPMP? Curious if it's any better. Unfortunately I've got GIG's of .wmv files...
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I have tried .mp4s with Core Player, and with some tweaking, they play fairly smoothly, but I agree -- .WMV is frustratingly bad. I came from a Samsung i730, which handled all codecs encoded up to (and sometimes beyond) 700kbps with no problem.
I also seem to think the video recording on the camera side is suffering from these bad "drivers". I did a comparison and my TyTnI video is WAY less burry. Way less...
Shame. HTC you should really be ashamed. Or at least get to fixing it and release a proper ROM. Or is video not important?
Sold my hermes for this
It hasnt made a huge Difference accept 50 to 60 mb prog memory. camera is horrible like o2 IIi
Video slow
Well before I had Imate JAsjam thatone played wmv and other video files without a hitch, Comparing the speed to the Kaiser the looks like a device
from the early 90's
hear Ye, hear Ye...
people of XDAdevForum!
please answer one simple question? aren't You all trying to act more dramatic than there is actually necessary?
please correct me if I am wrong, but is there a majority of You regular gamers?
come on. let's be honest. this device is great. a real power house. period.
complaining about video? coreplayer is about to release special qtv version of their player ANY MINUTE now...
complaining about camera? nothing can be done. hardware is limited and camera is just an additional option anyway.
3D gaming? ... ... dunno what to say. real game loving freaks owns psp from day one. (or since last sale...)
wait till cp for kaiser, opera mobile 9 and windows mobile 6.1 will be released. then we will talk.
this device main purpose is communication and nothing can beat it at it.
to clarify- I am not a HTC agent or whatever.
I'm just simply getting tired of overreacting and all the hate against HTC. I never heard of people talking about taking a dump on nokia's lawn cuz of crappy gps in N95.
don't get me wrong- I would be over the moon with drivers sorted, but please... give those guys a break. they actually never reffered to kaiser as a gaming device like nokia does on it's n series. I've bought my Vario III because it is succesor to my previous Vario II. gps integrated, 3meg cam (not that bad in day light and soft from polaris) tilting keyboard and the list goes on...
Yes. I am happy.
... and I love this community, who once again is showing, that wm is great sys after all and it can be customised, just how we like it.
sorry for that wall of txt, but I had it comming.
br
bro
Go and try to scroll in your windows folder with file explorer. Or use TomTom to show you the navigated route. Enjoy.
To be honest, it's not about gaming at all. Not about video playing at all. It's about scrolling in IE, in file explorer, smooth display in TomTom, in Camera. These operation on older devices are much more smoother comparing to this brick. Havent you seen the videos? Dear HTC agent?
The point is, that our devices seriously underperform compared to older device due to a lack of drivers (!). This means we've been sold devices that look as if they'd outperform older devices from the spec, but don't when it comes to reality - and it's not because the hardware is not there or anything, it's merely because a driver has not been delivered.
That's like you buy a cool computer advertised with a state-of-the-art DX10 Graphicscard which is deactivated due to a lack of drivers and all the rendering is done by the crappy onboard chip. Wouldn't like it would you?*
* Analogy is somwhat impaired as you can always just get drivers for the Card, but still....
Come on
I dont like paying $500 for a Tilt when the 8525 for half that works much better!! Get a clue!
Probably his first device. Doesn't know what to expect.
That said though I'm sure in a moment he'll reply & we'll learn that he is the mastermind behind windows mobile.
I would say something but I will respect the Title of this thread.
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Go and try to scroll in your windows folder with file explorer. Or use TomTom to show you the navigated route. Enjoy.
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Now I'm begining to wonder what's going on here!!!!!!!
I have no scrolling issues in windows, or viewing route in Tomtom.
I also have very few videos that don't play snoothly either.
SO and this may be an important observation. Is there a proportion of devices out there that are not working properly (possible ROM or other software setup - maybe even a hardware problem) and that others DO NOT show these problems.
On mine I simply cannot see the slowness others report. Mine is lag free and resposive. I saw some posts about the screen rotate times being slow, but mine is virtually instant.
Maybe this is what we should establish. Is it only some devices that are having problems.Compared to my 8525 my speeds are fantastic.
I notice that this odd mixture of some folks saying they have excellent speed and smooth loading and performance compared to others who seem to find the opposite - is apparent on several other PDA sites too.
Mike
EDIT: Just saw the post below. Again I have not noticed the camera being slow (except when really dark). Taking videos I dont do much of but let's say compared to TyTn it is about the same.
I will say I had a slow scroll in PIE but that was solved with the installation of the older PIE dll.
Happy? No!
I don't watch movies or play graphics intensive games. However I do use my phone as a PDA and take pictures and small videos and suck. Try scrolling anything, try taking a picture or small video of your kids. Then come back and tell me how happy you are.
Seems that either you don't actually have a Kaiser or you only use it as a phone.
Lately the camera performance on the Kaiser is really frustrating. It's almost unusable in low'ish light. With video or stills. Sure it's been like this the whole time but lately I've really been frustrated. I would like to use the camera.
To all the people who say a camera on a phone is not important I say go back in your cave. It's 2008 BTW and technology is surpassing you, get out of the way.
Sorry I'm done. Let's not trash this thread since it's call "Happy User Thread". There are alot of other threads we can do that in. As much as it's going to urk us to know that non power users will be posting in this thread oblivious to what is possible.
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Now I'm begining to wonder what's going on here!!!!!!!
I have no scrolling issues in windows, or viewing route in Tomtom.
I also have very few videos that don't play snoothly either.
SO and this may be an important observation. Is there a proportion of devices out there that are not working properly (possible ROM or other software setup - maybe even a hardware problem) and that others DO NOT show these problems.
On mine I simply cannot see the slowness others report. Mine is lag free and resposive. I saw some posts about the screen rotate times being slow, but mine is virtually instant.
Maybe this is what we should establish. Is it only some devices that are having problems.Compared to my 8525 my speeds are fantastic.
I notice that this odd mixture of some folks saying they have excellent speed and smooth loading and performance compared to others who seem to find the opposite - is apparent on several other PDA sites too.
Mike
EDIT: Just saw the post below. Again I have not noticed the camera being slow (except when really dark). Taking videos I dont do much of but let's say compared to TyTn it is about the same.
I will say I had a slow scroll in PIE but that was solved with the installation of the older PIE dll.
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I think you haven't seen these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y
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Lately the camera performance on the Kaiser is really frustrating. It's almost unusable in low'ish light. With video or stills. Sure it's been like this the whole time but lately I've really been frustrated. I would like to use the camera.
To all the people who say a camera on a phone is not important I say go back in your cave. It's 2008 BTW and technology is surpassing you, get out of the way.
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The point I'm trying to establish is whether it is only some devices that are showing these problems. I saw the OP being dismissed as being inexperienced BUT maybe these problems are NOT universal.
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The point I'm trying to establish is whether it is only some devices that are showing these problems. I saw the OP being dismissed as being inexperienced BUT maybe these problems are NOT universal.
Mike
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Maybe it is but I'm on my 3rd ROM, all different and the same problems(particularly the camera) have followed. Could be a bad batch I guess. Assuming your camera is performing "good" in low light. Can you provide a video to shut us all up?
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The point I'm trying to establish is whether it is only some devices that are showing these problems. I saw the OP being dismissed as being inexperienced BUT maybe these problems are NOT universal.
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So why do we have these sticky threads, web pages, reviews, comparisons and many more? Because two of us are experiencing some problems?
Get a clue!
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So why do we have these sticky threads, web pages, reviews, comparisons and many more? Because two of us are experiencing some problems?
Get a clue!
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For all I know it may be 80% of users who have these problems. I don't in any major way or anything that by changing settings has not been fixed. I'm not trying to dismiss the issues you and possibly many others have, but it may have a bearing on the causes. Perhaps there are hardware flaws for which no amount of ROM changing will solve matters.
Mike
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For all I know it may be 80% of users who have these problems. I don't in any major way or anything that by changing settings has not been fixed. I'm not trying to dismiss the issues you and possibly many others have, but it may have a bearing on the causes. Perhaps there are hardware flaws for which no amount of ROM changing will solve matters.
Mike
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80% of all sold hardware to be junk? Come on, you don't believe that either
Kaiser has to be really a HUMONGOUS piece of crap then
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For all I know it may be 80% of users who have these problems. I don't in any major way or anything that by changing settings has not been fixed. I'm not trying to dismiss the issues you and possibly many others have, but it may have a bearing on the causes. Perhaps there are hardware flaws for which no amount of ROM changing will solve matters.
Mike
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Is there some sort of benchmark that we could all run to see if there is something that is only affecting certain units?
I bought my TYTN II in Australia about 3 months ago and the screen redraws are abysmal, the camera is useless in anything less than perfect light. From what I have read every TYTN II is the same, depending on what your expectation is I suppose.
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Now I'm begining to wonder what's going on here!!!!!!!
I have no scrolling issues in windows, or viewing route in Tomtom.
I also have very few videos that don't play snoothly either.
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Me too Mike, my experience seems to follow yours. I love my little Kaiser, its a great little device, does all I ask of it, and I'm really pleased with the over all package.
And before others jump in and propose I'm a novice too, my first PDA phone was a Nokia 9000 Communicator, bought years ago. Back then, mods weren't flashing ROM's, or installing CAB's, it was done through programming, and DOS (remember that?) level commands. Or to put it another way, imagine that every tweak etc on the Kaiser had to be done via regedit. So novice, no. Happy user, yes.
I wonder if there are just some units out there that are badly made? Maybe HTC has more 'Friday' phones than most...
c'mon now, what are you talking about The tilt is about a half a step backwards from the 8525. Do the comparisons yourself, from playing movie files, video recording, picture taking in limited lighting, and the graphical redrawing of the ui itself! there's no way in hell should my ipaq Hw6515 out perform the tilt in any of these aspects! The tilt is suppose to be an upgrade from the 8525, but from the performance of it, it's not!
Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
EDIT..Use the .81 version of TCPMP if you can get it, buffer processing is faster.
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Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
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Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
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Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
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I can not assist the mentally blocked so please do not give negatives until people have had time to try it THANKS!!
One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
OH, and BTW, did you selectively miss this in the first post???
'This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site! '
deleted ....problem solved.... i am just too stupid lol
samlee860407 said:
hm....my kaiser cant play the file that i converted using divx ....
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If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
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If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
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yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
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yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
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No, I am stuck here with TCPMP until I get back to UK to purchase the new Coreplayer as my cred card wont work from the UAE online.
I am just trying to pass on any workarounds I find to others. I expect a massive factor of improvement when I get it but anything before that will also help others.
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
CorePlayer
samlee860407 said:
is coreplayer really that good?
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Definitely !
Cheers
hrb
samlee860407 said:
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
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Yep, it does!! But has patience been lost? We are developers... Not miracle workers.. Even iTunes takes full control of the other type of unit (COMPLETELY!) to convert...I think the fact we still have a factor of control on our devices to CHOOSE is befuddling people... If it was all fully auto then XDA would no longer exist!!!
ahh....hehe, good good
well...maybe coz i am converting prison break and stuff which is quite big in file....hehe
thanks all again
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One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
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Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
tbh,i would really wanted an iphone but there are some major flaw that why i din buy it although its my dream phone
1st, its not available in my place officially(only can get cracked version), no 3g, no mms,can edit word,excel and blah blah
and although i dont knw will i face the same problem when i am syncing songs, as i haven try yet
but no, you dont need to waste 10hours to get ur kaiser to play video
just downlaod tctm, install it in kaiser
download divx, convert it as the 1st post says so, then upload to ur device...done
less then 30minutes all done
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Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
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OK, BUT, please don't express your opinion until you have tested this yourself and posted any problems with it! Let others decide???
Many thanks..
That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
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That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
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I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
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I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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Thanks, I have her in my heart always, and, as we were both from Yorkshire, England...she would say, 'If you don't mean what you say, I will tan your hide!!'
She was a pearl!!!
I use a product called "Wondershare DVD Ripper Suite" (has a ripper and a converter) and it has a nice batch feature as well. I have also had success with "SPB DVD" and "DVD to PocketPC" by a company called Makayama. "Ashampoo Shrink and Burn 3" does fine for me as well. Also, I have noticed that Windows Media Player performs some type of conversion/compression when syncing. For example, "Star Wars 3" is a 855 MB WMV file, but when I synced it to my device it was only 359 MB. However, when I transferred the original 855 MB file to my storage card using a card reader it was still 855 MB - what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
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what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
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It is probably doing its best to convert a video file (of which there are MANY formats) to the preferred WM AVI PDA format. If you do not have the corresponding CODEC in your PC WM player it will not even try..Everyone has to try to standardise their media format for the player designate. If you expect the file you have on your PC/Laptop to play the same on your portable device 100% without conversion then I am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land! The processor speed and video codecs are radically different for WM devices against full Windows machines. (irrespective of any driver omission before anyone starts!!)
Aspect Ratio is not only for screen playback... it is for what you expect from your device....
A couple of weeks ago, I returned my Touch HD to get an iPhone instead, but not before I sent a complaint to HTC's customer support about my disappointment in the device's performance. Today I received the following response:
Dear Mr. XXX I would just like to inform you that a new rom update will be available in the future for the Touch HD (1.19). On the new ROM, multimedia features have drastically been improved. Videoclips and films runs smoothly without any lag. I have gotten this feedback from devices that are using the new rom. We are yet to release when the ROM will be available for download. Kind Regards XXX HTC Europe
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I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, but I did a search for 1.19 and got no results, so I figured it was worth posting. Is this news at all? Anyway, I'm sending a response asking what formats "Videoclips and films" refer to.
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This is interesting news. But "videoclips and films" could mean a lot of things -- what containers and formats have had their playback improved or, as you say, run smoothly in the new firmware? Does the media player that ship with the device now support playback of the common divx and xvid formats? Or has support for third-party multimedia software like for example CorePlayer improved? What of the performance of the many 3d accelerated games I've found barely playable on the device?
Thank you kindly for your continued interest in my case.
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Thank you for your reply. I did play a film in fullscreen myself without lag, however this was indeed on a third party player (that you also have mentioned about). Right now, I don't have any further information to give you regarding file formats, codecs etc. I would however recommend you to search online for something like: "Video Playback SDcard Tune up". I'm sure you will find a useful article about video formats etc. HTC does not support or endorse third party software or links, therefore HTC will not supply with recommendations of useful third party solutions. I will get back to you if I get more information regarding 3D acceleration and future updated. Kind Regards XXX HTC Europe
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Guess not much has been conirmed. Don't know if there's any point to keep pushing. Let's hope he updates me about the 3d acceleration though
good news, but I'm a bit suspecious
I think there comes new ROM because Qualcomm bought that AMD section which owned rights for that 3D graphic chip which Qualcomm didnt have rights to use before now.
So I think they ATLAST make proper 3D driver and HW acceleration.
if you could be right, that would be just awesome !
hmmm ... maybe is the WWE_1.19.831.0 that some cookers use??
Xannytech said:
hmmm ... maybe is the WWE_1.19.831.0 that some cookers use??
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My Touch HD bought in HK already shipped with 1.19 ROM (CSL) but i didn't found there is any special comparing with my old XPERIA X1.
Yeah this Hongkong-English Rom is already a month published and maybe there will spread a newer version. I would be happy, if there improve some things, like Video Playing, atm i have so 20 fps in average in a divx film, which is still already ok, but for the human eye 25fps would be better!
MfG Rayzer HD
Rayzer HD said:
Yeah this Hongkong-English Rom is already a month published and maybe there will spread a newer version. I would be happy, if there improve some things, like Video Playing, atm i have so 20 fps in average in a divx film, which is still already ok, but for the human eye 25fps would be better!
MfG Rayzer HD
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you can change this with an registry modification to 25fps video capturing .. just search the hints and tweak section (i think there is a tweak there..)
Lazy79 said:
you can change this with an registry modification to 25fps video capturing .. just search the hints and tweak section (i think there is a tweak there..)
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No i did speak of a coreplayer benchmark result of a divx film and there i can only change the film, yeah i know but i dont want it at every video...^^
But this is not only a playing video thread so stop...
MfG Robert
oh sorry, i misunderstood it.. i thought you meant a video which you take with the blackstone. Sorry!
Hahaha, this means that this particular dude from HTC also browses the XDA forums for his tweaks... Sad actually.
I don't expect anything from HTC anymore, just that they don't know how to make iPhone killers and charge too much for their devices.
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you can change this with an registry modification to 25fps video capturing .. just search the hints and tweak section (i think there is a tweak there..)
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I don't see any.. can you post the link for the thread??
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\
Recparam\AVILarge
Should be somewhere there in Registry, just change 15 to 25 (not more..)
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Hahaha, this means that this particular dude from HTC also browses the XDA forums for his tweaks... Sad actually.
I don't expect anything from HTC anymore, just that they don't know how to make iPhone killers and charge too much for their devices.
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So do I. They don't even manage to make the HD work with BT hands-free kits...
Lazy79 said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\
Recparam\AVILarge
Should be somewhere there in Registry, just change 15 to 25 (not more..)
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Hmm... with 25 applied after recording a video, when playing that video the orientation of that video is reversed from the recording orientation that was made.
I reverted to 15 and now everything is ok again.
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Hahaha, this means that this particular dude from HTC also browses the XDA forums for his tweaks... Sad actually.
I don't expect anything from HTC anymore, just that they don't know how to make iPhone killers and charge too much for their devices.
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hey neo! i'm glad you responded, i was just about to pm you so you dont think too much of this 'new development'??
jessew
Nah, not really. If we want new shiny stuff on our devices, we should support the community in any way we can. That's where the good stuff comes from.
Thank you for your reply. I did play a film in fullscreen myself without lag, however this was indeed on a third party player (that you also have mentioned about). Right now, I don't have any further information to give you regarding file formats, codecs etc. I would however recommend you to search online for something like: "Video Playback SDcard Tune up". I'm sure you will find a useful article about video formats etc. HTC does not support or endorse third party software or links, therefore HTC will not supply with recommendations of useful third party solutions. I will get back to you if I get more information regarding 3D acceleration and future updated. Kind Regards XXX HTC Europe
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Hehe, so my damn TuneUP was finally discovered by HTC!
Maybe you can license it to them for use in future devices and make some big $$$
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Maybe you can license it to them for use in future devices and make some big $$$
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Yea, or get a free phone (big bucks, right?!?!)
well most of us here have been enjoying flash for about a day or two. i want to make this topic for all of us to contribute to. what are some of your favorite flash sites, whether for videos or games. i dont know much about game sites but i checked gamefudge.com and most games work. some games u need a keyboard to play. comedy central works good. tbs. of course hulu although a bit choppy but thats fine. one of the sites i always wanted on my nexus one i finally got....failblog.org! froyo is surely one giant leap for the whole OS. anyways, what sites have you guys been on that you think its worthy enough to share with us?
**EDIT: i will make a list just in case this thread gets big (i hope so :]) you wont have to do a lot of searching around. ALSO I WILL BE PLACING SOME ADULT SITES FROM THE THREADS. PLEASE MODERATORS, IF THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES OR IS IN BAD TASTE, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL REMOVE ASAP**
Games:
Gamefudge.com
m.Kongregate.com
miniclip.com
newgrounds.com
ebaumsworld.com
Videos:
TBS.com
Hulu.com
ComedyCentral.com
Gametrailers.com
Channelsurfing.net
Failblog.org
Cnettv.com
atdhe.net
ESPN.com
Break.com
Quicksilverscreen.com
movies-link.tv
ovguide.com
Music
Http://last.fm/
Adobe optimized sites
http://www.adobe.com/m/devices/websites.html
18+ONLY sites (shame on you lol)
youporn.com
tube8.com
pornhub.com
xnxx.com
spankwire.com
megaporn.com
Games: miniclip.com
Someone on here suggested it to me, and it is good for games.
Gametrailers.com
Cnettv.com
anyone else having trouble getting hulu to go full screen?
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anyone else having trouble getting hulu to go full screen?
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Never got it to go.
newgrounds.com
some good sites here. lets keep them coming
youporn
treble4 said:
youporn
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lol am i allowed to put this up???
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anyone else having trouble getting hulu to go full screen?
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Check it out! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6562950#post6562950
Anybody know where is the list that Adobe provided of optimized sites?
This is a site everyone knows about but I'm listening to the Phoenix vs. Lakers game live via the ESPN homepage and their Flash enabled audio player. It's so freaking cool looking! And sounding!
My Nexus screen even dims but does not timeout, like it KNOWS I'm listening to audio, not watching video!
I'm absolutely thrilled with Flash performance! I cannot imagine being on any other platform! There is SOOO much killer content we're going to be able to take advantage of. Especially sports games I normally would not have access to while mobile, are now going to be possible via Flash!!!
Flash runs pretty choppy for me. Not sure how you guys use it for games.
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Flash runs pretty choppy for me. Not sure how you guys use it for games.
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well its only in beta. the final product might not be as choppy. plus it just came out. give it some time
i am favorite flash sites?
i had no idea...
youporn
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Anyone try pornhub? I prefer that to youporn..they seen to default to the mobile site..
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Anyone try pornhub? I prefer that to youporn..they seen to default to the mobile site..
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i've tried those two.. my favorite of all time is xnxx.com just ignore some of the dumb videos they put on the front page and its all good.
atdhe.net to stream sports! Watched some of the Lakers-Suns game on my Nexus to test it out, works great!
how about Break.com?
found another one. quicksilverscreen.com wow flash is great lol