Death SPL - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, i bricked my phone by installing the death spl, before i brick another one I was just wondering if someone could be kind enough to guide me through on how to install it after i rooted the phone. Thanks.

1)Gain root/flash the recovery image
2)Flash any 1.5/1.6 based ROM (that doesn't require 1.33.2005 SPL...that's what "death" actually is...)
3) Check your radio, go to Settings > About, baseband version should end in 26i.
If not flash this (You must name it update.zip, flash with alt-s, and reboot using home+back, if not it wont flash), otherwise don't bother.
4) Check your radio again The reason it bricked before was that you didn't have the radio for 1.5/1.6
5) Flash the SPL (again, name it update.zip, alt-s, home+back. If not it just wont flash).
6) Your phone will reboot, just leave it a few minutes to be safe
7) Pull the battery, put it back in, boot in to recovery
8) Flash a ROM.

Make sure u have a phone with a pvt board

Thank you very much AdrianK, but what is a pvt board?

pvt board is nonsense.
Back when people started installing the deathspl, nobody could figure out the pattern of devices that bricked or not bricked, so some people tried to guess at the possibilities and one of the guesses was that dvt boards bricked. This was NOT the reason though -- plenty of pvt boards bricked, and plenty of dvt boards DID NOT brick.
It was later discovered that the big thing that GUARANTEED a brick was the installed IPL and its compatibility with the deathspl, but some people still remember the incorrect guess about the cause of bricks and for whatever reason assume it to be a valid reason.
A statistical analysis of the bricks will show that as of now, a LOT more pvt boards are bricked than dvt... partly because of the assumption that a dvt WILL brick (and therefore nobody tries), but mainly because there are a LOT MORE pvt boards than dvt boards.
Anyways, don't worry about pvt vs dvt. It makes no difference. The only known factor is the IPL version... but some brick despite the IPL (i.e., all the steps appear to have been followed correctly), and this includes pvt boards.
1) There is always a risk of bricking when installing an SPL that is *NOT COMPATIBLE* with the device... and this SPL is from an HTC MAGIC -- it is not compatible with ANY HTC DREAMs.
2) pvt/dvt makes no difference.
3) to *reduce* the chances of coming out with a brick, ensure that the IPL is correct.
4) there is actually no reason to bother with this. You can move some system files into the /cache partition and symlink them if you need more space for /system.

lbcoder said:
pvt board is nonsense.
Back when people started installing the deathspl, nobody could figure out the pattern of devices that bricked or not bricked, so some people tried to guess at the possibilities and one of the guesses was that dvt boards bricked. This was NOT the reason though -- plenty of pvt boards bricked, and plenty of dvt boards DID NOT brick.
It was later discovered that the big thing that GUARANTEED a brick was the installed IPL and its compatibility with the deathspl, but some people still remember the incorrect guess about the cause of bricks and for whatever reason assume it to be a valid reason.
A statistical analysis of the bricks will show that as of now, a LOT more pvt boards are bricked than dvt... partly because of the assumption that a dvt WILL brick (and therefore nobody tries), but mainly because there are a LOT MORE pvt boards than dvt boards.
Anyways, don't worry about pvt vs dvt. It makes no difference. The only known factor is the IPL version... but some brick despite the IPL (i.e., all the steps appear to have been followed correctly), and this includes pvt boards.
1) There is always a risk of bricking when installing an SPL that is *NOT COMPATIBLE* with the device... and this SPL is from an HTC MAGIC -- it is not compatible with ANY HTC DREAMs.
2) pvt/dvt makes no difference.
3) to *reduce* the chances of coming out with a brick, ensure that the IPL is correct.
4) there is actually no reason to bother with this. You can move some system files into the /cache partition and symlink them if you need more space for /system.
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so if this is the case then what is the right IPL?

xm0is3sx said:
so if this is the case then what is the right IPL?
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Look at adriank's post -- step 3.

Related

SPLs?

What are all the different spls for Dream Aka G1? i keep hearing like danger and hard spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
htcclay said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
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Thanks for the link i tried searching but couldnt find it.
That covers the "safe" SPLs, though in theory a bad flash with any bootloader can brick a phone. If you're interested in the "Danger" SPL, which is also known as the Haykuro SPL or the "newest" SPL, check the link in my sig. This SPL really isn't a problem to flash if you have a PVT board and if you make sure to flash to the latest radio first. It also frees up more room on your device, because it takes up less space and repartitions your device accordingly.

Help flashing SPL, Radio and a Hero ROM to a HTC Dream?

Hey all,
I have a HTC Dream that has the following setup:
"Android on Skateboards" SPL
Maxishma's OS Build (4/Aug/09)
512MB Apps2SD EXT2 Partition
32MB Swap Partition
I'm thinking of installing this build on my HTC Dream, but it says something about needing a new SPL and Radio. I didn't want to risk bricking my phone, so I wanted to ask the community first.
On bootloader mode, I get the following:
DREA110 PVT 32B
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Oct 20 2008
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In the radio and SPL flashing guide, it said something about it having to be DREA100 or something. I wasn't sure.
Could someone please guide me the steps? I'm eager to try some of the Hero builds, and I'm just wanting to play it safe and not end up with a brick.
Thanks in advance,
Coburn64.
you have a pvt board so you should be good as long as you follow directions and FLASH RADIO BEFORE SPL. mayble one more time for the people in the brick seats. thats radio before the spl. but i digress. you should be all set as far as phone requirements. just make sure to read up on it so that you know all the steps and you to can run hero.
Yep just like David said your phone meets the requirements but read and reread before you do anything. Radio first then spl. And after you load spl you will have to flash a new rom cause the spl overwrites your existing rom. Just to let you know so your not freaked out.
Thanks for all the tips and info! I'll try this tonight and report back with any problems.
I've done a nandroid backup as well, does it save all your emails/contacts, etc?
Thanks again.
Nand saves your exact image including emails/contacts/messages?app settings. It will not save anything that's on your SD card so if you format your card you will need to re-download everything.
Good luck

Help cant flash hero

ok so im trying to flash maxismas 1.8 hero and im coming from cyans 4.1999.
i wiped my ext4 and the phone.
when it comes down to flashing the update i get:
E: Cant chown/mod /system/xbin
(no such file or directory)
E: Failure at line 77
set_perm_recursive 0 2000 0755 0
6755 SYSTEM:xbin
can any on tell me what any of this jargon means?
1. you have the up-to-date radio im assumeing rite?(if you dont you MUST FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE YOU GO ANYFURTHER IF YOU WANT HERO)
2. you have haykuro spl?
RanT476 said:
1. you have the up-to-date radio im assumeing rite?(if you dont you MUST FLASH THE RADIO BEFORE YOU GO ANYFURTHER IF YOU WANT HERO)
2. you have haykuro spl?
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ok im reflashing the latest radio.
how do i know if i have haykuros spl?
error at line 77 is when you don't wipe ext before the flash and make sure you factory wipe also.
whoa whoa whoa go check if you have the radio first shut down your phone then when its shut down press and hold the
Camera Button(Right side of your Dream/G1)+Power Button(Red Phone Button)
and check if you have "RADIO 2.22.19.26I" anywhere in there if you do then you can flash haykuro spl but only if you have the up-to-date radio if you dont you will BRICK YOUR PHONE AND RENDER IT USELESS and also check if you have a PVT Mother Board it will be on the first line when you load up the bootloader
to get out the bootloader press these 3 buttons at the same time
Green Phone Button+Menu Button+Power Button(Red Phone Button)
and once again
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/ <<<<go here
and remember if you dont have a PVT Mother Board in your phone you will brick it by flashing haykuro spl even if you have the radio(i think it bricks it just kno your not supposed to if you dont have a PVT Board) from what i kno so make sure you have a PVT before following #2 the PVT
If you see you dont have the
1. "RADIO 2.22.19.26I" MUST FLASH FIRST!!!! flash it on your phone only if you dont have it if you do have it skip it
2. Flash the haykuro's spl(Latest SPL) ONLY IF YOU HAVE A PVT MOTHER BOARD if not do not flash it
remember were not responsible if you brick your phone we just give you information we kno follow and you should be fine
lets see this....
hold n
ok wish u luck
If he is running Cyan 4.1.99X his radio would be correct, as it is installed with the HTC image/or the 1 step flash method. Still needs to check the SPL.
jus precaution fear thats all teaching him and answering his question that way he can pass info on too keep that in mind
RanT476 said:
whoa whoa whoa go check if you have the radio first shut down your phone then when its shut down press and hold the
Camera Button(Right side of your Dream/G1)+Power Button(Red Phone Button)
and check if you have "RADIO 2.22.19.26I" anywhere in there if you do then you can flash haykuro spl but only if you have the up-to-date radio if you dont you will BRICK YOUR PHONE AND RENDER IT USELESS and also check if you have a PVT Mother Board it will be on the first line when you load up the bootloader
to get out the bootloader press these 3 buttons at the same time
Green Phone Button+Menu Button+Power Button(Red Phone Button)
and once again
http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/ <<<<go here
and remember if you dont have a PVT Mother Board in your phone you will brick it by flashing haykuro spl even if you have the radio(i think it bricks it just kno your not supposed to if you dont have a PVT Board) from what i kno so make sure you have a PVT before following #2 the PVT
If you see you dont have the
1. "RADIO 2.22.19.26I" MUST FLASH FIRST!!!! flash it on your phone only if you dont have it if you do have it skip it
2. Flash the haykuro's spl(Latest SPL) ONLY IF YOU HAVE A PVT MOTHER BOARD if not do not flash it
remember were not responsible if you brick your phone we just give you information we kno follow and you should be fine
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Thanks for being so thorough! I guarantee you save someone from a brick.
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Are you sure Maxsima is compatible with ext4?
Alright, I am stumped... I installed Cyanogen's newest rom 4.1.999.
during installing this it updated my spl.
I am not happy with the way 4.1.999 is running and want to reflash my spl to Haykuro's danger spl.
When I go into recovery and select the new updated spl it does its normal going to reboot bit and then the little logo pops on the screen for a split second like it is flashing the spl... Then it reboots back into recovery but nothing has changed. I have re downloaded the spl to make sure it wasnt corrupted or something but it still does the same thing.
oh and I am running RADIO 2.22.19.26I
Thanks for any input
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Haykuro's danger spl is a bootloader not a recovery image and when you flash/install Haykuro's danger spl it erase's the rom so you have to flash a new one so flash a new rom and you'll be running again but if you wanna see what the new Haykuro's danger spl looks just power down your phone then press and hold the
Camera Button(Right side of your phone if you have a dream/G1)+Power Button(Red Phone Button)
and you'll see its diffrent from the last time if you looked at the HardSPL you had when you rooted your phone or the stock bootloader
but Haykuro's danger spl isnt ganna change the speed of Cyanogen i highly dout that but if you want it more power to you
anything else ask and ill answer it if i can

Danger SPL and Drea100 PVT

Can i install the danger SPL on the dream100 pvt or i'm risking to brick the phone? i didn't saw somewhere the guide for this kind of phone....
Thanks in advance
atsic said:
Can i install the danger SPL on the dream100 pvt or i'm risking to brick the phone? i didn't saw somewhere the guide for this kind of phone....
Thanks in advance
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There is *NO BENEFIT* to it (despite what all the MORONS will claim, it is NOT required for ANYTHING), and regardless of your hardware, there is ALWAYS a risk.
Fact is that the deathspl is NOT COMPATIBLE with ANY HTC DREAM, so don't be using it!
lbcoder said:
There is *NO BENEFIT* to it (despite what all the MORONS will claim, it is NOT required for ANYTHING), and regardless of your hardware, there is ALWAYS a risk.
Fact is that the deathspl is NOT COMPATIBLE with ANY HTC DREAM, so don't be using it!
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it means that if i would like to install a version of eclaire where everywere is requied a danger spl i don't need this spl? I can install it with any sort of problem without the update of the spl?
thanks
atsic said:
it means that if i would like to install a version of eclaire where everywere is requied a danger spl i don't need this spl? I can install it with any sort of problem without the update of the spl?
thanks
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All it means is that the rom dev was REALLY LAZY. All you need to do is a VERY MINOR modification and resign to the update.zip. Move some files into /cache and symlink them back.
Or, you could simply use a rom where the rom dev(s) aren't so lazy and actually made the thing to intelligently move files around...
i.e. this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629932
or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624545
(note re the second one: the requirements list shows DEATHSPL. This is NOT the case.)
lbcoder said:
All it means is that the rom dev was REALLY LAZY. All you need to do is a VERY MINOR modification and resign to the update.zip. Move some files into /cache and symlink them back.
Or, you could simply use a rom where the rom dev(s) aren't so lazy and actually made the thing to intelligently move files around...
i.e. this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629932
or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624545
(note re the second one: the requirements list shows DEATHSPL. This is NOT the case.)
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Im confused. Im not trying to offend you (as maybe Im not getting something), but are you saying that Dwang and Cyanogen ar lazy? After all, they are responsible for Super D 1.8 (which I hear is AWESOME) and it requires the danger spl.
Or is there a better way to flash Super D?
Dai323 said:
Im confused. Im not trying to offend you (as maybe Im not getting something), but are you saying that Dwang and Cyanogen ar lazy? After all, they are responsible for Super D 1.8 (which I hear is AWESOME) and it requires the danger spl.
Or is there a better way to flash Super D?
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They are not responsible for Super-D but rather their work is the base for it. I don't agree with lbcoder but I understand what he is saying. Lazy is not the choise of words I would choose to use.
billquinn1 said:
They are not responsible for Super-D but rather their work is the base for it. I don't agree with lbcoder but I understand what he is saying. Lazy is not the choise of words I would choose to use.
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Gotcha. Im assuming then that you have nothing against using the Danger SPL when required (and if the hardware matches)?
Lazy, ignorant, how about a FAKE.
99.9% of rom cookers haven't the FAINTEST idea what they're doing. They haven't written a single line of code in their LIVES and all they do is mix and match APK files in the update archive, put their own personalized B.S. in the build.prop file, and resign the archive.
So "lazy" *IS* the right word. Too lazy to actually learn something of any significance. Note: the work needed to get ANY rom onto a STOCK SPL is quite literally *TRIVIAL*. Drag a few files around, add a couple of lines to the update-script, done.
Dai323 said:
Gotcha. Im assuming then that you have nothing against the Danger SPL when required (and if the hardware matches)?
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The only hardware that it matches is HTC MAGIC, which is where it was copied from.
lbcoder said:
The only hardware that it matches is HTC MAGIC, which is where it was copied from.
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Wow. Ok, now I'm a bit paranoid to flash Super D tomorrow on my G1 (waiting on Class 6 micro), as I haven't heard this issue brought up before.
The forums have been chock full of anger lately. Not sure where it all comes from except maybe the weather has people down.
I think the WG roms do not require the Danger SPL so that would be a good choice. Our phones are a very tight fit but some roms do fit just fine.
I am running out of here with my head down! Good Luck.
So no answers that are clearing the situation. Is possible or not to install Danger SPL/ Death SPL over the DREA100 PVT version???
atsic said:
So no answers that are clearing the situation. Is possible or not to install Danger SPL/ Death SPL over the DREA100 PVT version???
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Yes just follow this guide and you will be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Joe333x said:
Yes just follow this guide and you will be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
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The problem is that on my phone is showed DREA100 PVT and not "DREAM PVT" as the guide says to be. Can i flash anyway?
atsic said:
The problem is that on my phone is showed DREA100 PVT and not "DREAM PVT" as the guide says to be. Can i flash anyway?
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Which SPL are you currently using? You should be fine since you have a PVT board, its just the DVT boards that cannot use the Danger SPL. When I reboot holding the camera button this is what the top line says
"DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF"
What does yours say?
Joe333x said:
Which SPL are you currently using? You should be fine since you have a PVT board, its just the DVT boards that cannot use the Danger SPL. When I reboot holding the camera button this is what the top line says
"DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF"
What does yours say?
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holding camera and power button appear
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
This in in the upper left corner.
More down and centered is also written Seria10
Hope that is useful.
Are you still on the stock SPL? I just did a little googling and it seems that DREA100 PVT 32B is normal to see on the stock SPL. The key is to know that you have a PVT board, which you do. I would say you should be fine. Check out the link in my sig and ask in that thread and maybe someone else will weight in. The dev section gets a lot more traffic than the q&a section.
Don't let lbcoder scare you, if you know what your doing, DEATH spl is completely safe. Follow Joe's guide, its easy to follow and guaranteed not to screw you up. I've been using death spl for the last few months and my G1 is still running It makes life a helluva lot easier for you just to have it installed, then you won't have to worry about a rom not fitting in your phone. GL
Joe333x said:
Are you still on the stock SPL? I just did a little googling and it seems that DREA100 PVT 32B is normal to see on the stock SPL. The key is to know that you have a PVT board, which you do. I would say you should be fine. Check out the link in my sig and ask in that thread and maybe someone else will weight in. The dev section gets a lot more traffic than the q&a section.
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Yes of course is the stock SPL.
I posted on the other 3ad too. Thanks anyway!

Is this file the hardSPL or dangerSPL?

Sorry I posted this in the wrong subforum, so I'm reposting it here:
theunlockr.com/2010/04/26/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-g1-dream/
I used this site to root my g1, while it claims the SPL on the site is the Hardspl, I believe it's the danger spl, can someone confirm this for me?
My phone says
HBoot - 1.33.2005
radio 2.22.19.26I
danger, hard, soft, death. haykuro are all the same thing more or less, they all work for the same purpose.
just sorta nick names for them since flashing them have the greatest chance of bricking your phone if done incorrectly. originally it was just Haykuro's

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