Can anyone please tell me if emails from paypal come from the email address
[email protected]
as i think someone is trying to scam me
I'd say probably. I did a WHOIS on Paypal.com and compared the results to intr-paypal.com, and paypal.com had lots of information available while intr-paypal.com had little to no information, which a scammer would do and a legitimate business wouldn't. I also visited intr-paypal.com, and it's a blank site made with Google Sites. I highly recommend forwarding the emails to [email protected], and reporting the fake site, as detailed here.
Someone must know i'll tell you all the story anyway, i sold somthing to someone overseas for 350gbp, they paid via paypal, paypal sent me an email and said that they have receive the money and are holding on to it until i sent them proof of postage, i did this but am still yet to receive the money ........ earler 2day that person contacted me and wanted to buy somthing else i had for sale on ebay, before i could tell him i already sold it he paid again by the same way, i contacted paypal on the address they were emailing me from as above, they advised me that they could not refund the money as a security precaution to prevent scamming, and me and the buyer need to arrange a method of refund, the buyer wanted me to pay by western union, so i told paypal i would but only if the money was cleared in my paypal account first, paypal replied saying that they will not credit my account until i have shown them proof of the refund,
Is this for real or am i being scammed?
here is the last email paypal sent me
Thanks for the swift response, We regret to inform you that the funds can't be credited to your account until we see a prove of refund, we got an email from the buyer saying that the agreed method is Western Union Money Transfer, so we want you to go ahead and make the refund of £550.00 GBP through western union and then get back to us with the transfer details as requested below .
Sender's Name :
Sender's Address :
MTCN Number (Money Transfer Control Number) :
Security Question & Answer :
Once you make the refund get back to us with the above information and we would release the funds to your account immediately, Also you are advised not to send the Western Union details to the buyer until you're being told to do so, We won't disclose the Western Union information to the buyer until the funds has been successfully transferred to your account, You may ask the buyer's for his address for the Western Union Transfer.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience, We are trying to make sure both seller and buyer are safe from any fraudulent activity,
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I'd say probably. I did a WHOIS on Paypal.com and compared the results to intr-paypal.com, and paypal.com had lots of information available while intr-paypal.com had little to no information, which a scammer would do and a legitimate business wouldn't. I also visited intr-paypal.com, and it's a blank site made with Google Sites. I highly recommend forwarding the emails to [email protected], and reporting the fake site, as detailed here.
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i already have sent a copy to [email protected], i have sent the guy a htc hero i was selling to already thinking the money was with paypal ..... take it ive lost it
Thanks for the swift response, We regret to inform you that the funds can't be credited to your account until we see a prove of refund, we got an email from the buyer saying that the agreed method is Western Union Money Transfer, so we want you to go ahead and make the refund of £550.00 GBP through western union and then get back to us with the transfer details as requested below .
Sender's Name :
Sender's Address :
MTCN Number (Money Transfer Control Number) :
Security Question & Answer :
Once you make the refund get back to us with the above information and we would release the funds to your account immediately, Also you are advised not to send the Western Union details to the buyer until you're being told to do so, We won't disclose the Western Union information to the buyer until the funds has been successfully transferred to your account, You may ask the buyer's for his address for the Western Union Transfer.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience, We are trying to make sure both seller and buyer are safe from any fraudulent activity,
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Scam Scam Scam - this is a Scam. (Paypal did NOT send that)
That is so riddled with poor grammar, odd phrases and language you do not expect from a professional organisation. I've seen better grammar from my friends in The Bank of Burkino Fasso and at least he was offering me $90,000,000,000.
That is NOT from Paypal. Speak to Paypal using official links and numbers.
I'd also look at the email "headers" and look for the LAST received from IP number. Then do a Whois search to see it's source. (Nigeria is statistically likely)
Mike
Mike you got in in one mate . . . Nigera lol Im so dumb sumtimes i make myself laff lol
I guess some people need money... And yeah... PayPal wouldn't have such bad grammar.
best place for that email
forward to [email protected]
hope this helps
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Chaps some advice please
Sold my xbox 360 for around £320 on ebay
Guy paid via paypal echeque
Took around 10 days to clear and its gone through today.
I emailed the guy and asked why he paid via echeque and not normal instant pay via paypal. In his response he was a little confused as to why it was echeque and came back to me later and found that his card had expired and hence the echeque. He asked me to refund the echeque, and he would repay via proper paypal with his new card details. I told him to leave it as paypal where processing it, he agreed.
Now the problem is that although the cash has cleared, he isnt verified and that means that I am a seller am not protected. What do you suggest? Should I ship the item? I sold something of similar value on ebay previously, and they reversed the transaction because the account had be hijacked. I don’t trust paypal anymore….
Wait with shipping before you are 100% sure you got the money!!
just fyi i bought a prophet battery on ebay, it arrived today. I paid as usual using paypal and only found out after a week that I had paid by e-cheque.
It took about a month arrive so probably the seller decided to wait a bit as well.
I didn't even know what an e-cheque was!
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just fyi i bought a prophet battery on ebay, it arrived today. I paid as usual using paypal and only found out after a week that I had paid by e-cheque.
It took about a month arrive so probably the seller decided to wait a bit as well.
I didn't even know what an e-cheque was!
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what is an echeque and how does it get paid? the chap i spoke to said that it was sent as an echeque because his credit card had expired and that was the reason.
really appriciate the help guys!
Beware of Paypal
I was involved in a law suit with them 2 years ago. I lost over $1300.00 over 2 years in 2 transactions which there were disputes from credit card co's. and it was 6 months or more after the transactions took place. Paypal would not give me any info on the dispute they just took the money out of my account. I asked for the name of the person and the card number or the contact info with the credit card co. and Paypal said they would dispute it for me and let me know within 90 days and that they couldn't give me info because of privacy issues and to just trust them . Well I trusted them I lost $1300.00 $950 the first time and then $350 this was 5 years ago 3 years ago I was contacted by a law firm that invited me to join a class action suit. Paypal lost the case 9.5 million, my end $24.73 but you know I am happy Paypal had to pay since I only got 25 bucks you can imagine how many people were included in that judgment .We know the Law firm got half but 4.5 million and divided that into payments the size of mine there must have been thousands of people that had the same problem i did. They claim not to be Bank but charge fees as a bank. Because they are not a Bank they are not regulated by the federal government and that make it easy for them to do what they can get away with, whereas a Bank all the T's must be crossed and numbers have to add up. I do not leave money in Paypal I no longer link them with a Real Bank. I use a credit card that has a $300.00 limit to link to Paypal if you like to ebay you almost have to use Paypal unless the Seller has a store and they route u to their credit card service and then your taken a chance.
E-checks
One more thing if Paypal paid with a e-check from your account that means you linked a Checking Account to Paypal when you signed up to paypal and any time you buy something and you do not have enough money in your paypal account to pay for the item. Then Paypal will automatically setup an e-check payment from your bank account. This is dangerous because if someone gets your Id info even though you have no money in your paypal account they can still get access to your linked checking account by making a payment to someone via Paypal, Paypal will simply turn it into a e-check and start the process of withdrawing the funds from you bank account. Be careful !
many thanks for the info guys.
i'll wait until the funds clear into my bank account and then ship it out
cheers
Payment was completed on August 30, shipping label was apparently printed on September 10 (according to tracking number) and I still havn't received it.
This is the item, I live in Quebec, Canada. My tracking number says this:
Label/Receipt Number: CV00 5036 863U S
Status: Electronic Shipping Info Received
The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on September 10, 2008 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if / when available. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.
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It has been 26 working days since the payment was completed and 17 since the shipping label was printed. Should I mark it as not received or should I wait?
After 2 weeks you can file a dispute with PayPal, I'd do that if I were you. Contact the seller and let him know, give him a chance to get it to you within a reasonable amount of time from now, and if he does mark the dispute as resolved. A month is a ridiculous amount of time to wait for an item, I would've filed a complaint a long time ago.
how did you pay for the item? credit card, bank card..
I paid with PayPal and just filed a dispute. Thankfully he told me he would cooperate.
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I paid with PayPal and just filed a dispute. Thankfully he told me he would cooperate.
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Perfect, once you get the item just mark the dispute with PayPal as "resolved" and it won't go against either of you. I like doing this instead of just contacting (especially after an entire month) because it gives a little nudge that lets him know you really want your item.
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I paid with PayPal and just filed a dispute. Thankfully he told me he would cooperate.
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Some people just Fail (like me)
I never sell on ebay, because I am scared I will forget to post stuff out and end up in ****. Normal letters take 3-4 weeks for me to post, important ones 1-2, birthday cards just don't get sent
Dave
I got the following emails this morning:
Dear Nicolas Bouliane,
Regarding the transaction below:
Seller's Name: Gevork Grigoryan
Seller's Email: [email protected]
Transaction ID: 9FU97936H0755382B
Transaction Date: Aug. 30, 2008 11:24:23 PDT
Transaction Amount: $168.98 USD
The seller has provided the following Shipment Tracking Information for your review:
Shipping Company: USPS
Shipment Tracking Number: CV 005 036 863 US
The seller has provided the following Order Status information for your review:
Order Status: Shipped
The seller is providing this feature through the PayPal website as a means for communicating this information to you. Please note that the Shipment Tracking Information and Order Status displayed above is exactly as the seller entered it.
If you have questions about this transaction, PayPal encourages you to directly contact the seller to amicably resolve any outstanding questions you might have.
Thank you for using PayPal!
The PayPal Team
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And then he posted this in the dispute:
I completely understand buyers concern, for some reason the USPS has not delivered the package. When I contacted USPS they told me that there might be a hold at the customs. Anyway I will contact them again tomorrow and see what will they say.
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LOL mysteriously you will get your shipment...5 bucks says there will be something wrong with it.
Check your tracking number now, does it say shipped or still electronic shipping info received? If it still doesn't say shipped, but he's claiming it has been shipped, call PayPal and tell them what's up. The number is 1-888-221-1161, but you have to go to paypal.com and click "contact us", then "by phone" to get a special PIN to use.
Edit: Just checked it myself, still says electronic shipping info received. This means he has not yet delivered the package to USPS, just printed out a shipping label through PayPal.
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Edit: Just checked it myself, still says electronic shipping info received. This means he has not yet delivered the package to USPS, just printed out a shipping label through PayPal.
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That's what I'm thinking too. He said he was going to look tomorrow (which is today). He's in another time zone so I'll make a claim tomorrow.
Maybe he didn't want a price this low?
N1c0_ds said:
That's what I'm thinking too. He said he was going to look tomorrow (which is today). He's in another time zone so I'll make a claim tomorrow.
Maybe he didn't want a price this low?
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Yeah, stuff like that happens... But if you go through with the dispute and give him bad feedback, that's the best you can do.
I escalated it to a claim, we'll see what happens.
So I have my Macbook on my local Craigslist, a buy/sell/trade site here in the States. This site has been plagued with an influx of fake people with fake money sending around fake PayPal emails.
Unfortunately, I'm all to familiar with these scams, which all seem to originate from Nigeria. Here's my most recent exchange:
I am interested in this item,is it still available for sale?get back
as soon as possible.
Richie Mo ,
[email protected].
768-098-0981
Thanks.
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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Of course, it's a fake number...
Since your number is from Wisconsin, you can look at my eBay listing. I will not ship the product outside of eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476416750&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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THIS IS THE THING TO LOOK OUT FOR: (I was listed below $2000)
Thanks for the urgent response,with a good condition of this item and i am okay with the price,i will like to purchase it for someone ,i will offer you $2100usd and $100usd for the shipping through USPS(EMS) and i cannot make cash for this transactions due to nature of my job as a doctor.Therefore it will be very easy for to make payment for this item via paypal just because registered with them,i will like you to get back to me with your registered paypal email account for the payment of the item.
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I will be willing to use PayPal, but only through the Buy It Now feature of eBay. Follow this link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160476610985&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
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just give me your paypal id now i will make the payment.thanks
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Why are you so against using eBay?
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ebay is very stressful that is why i decided to buy on craiglist,so i will like you to get back to me with your paypal id for the payment.thanks
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So I decided to have some fun. Already knew it was fake:
My paypal is the same as this email address. I will ship as soon as I can see the money in my account, and have successfully transferred it to my bank account.
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ok,i will make the payment now.thanks
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Dear Sean *********@gmail.com,
You've got a funds of $2,200.00 USD from Richie Mo ([email protected]),
Thanks for using PayPal. To see all the transaction details, log in to your PayPal account.
It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in your account please follow the new PayPal policy.
Seller
*********@gmail.com, Note to seller
Please get the Item ship out today asap through USPS (EMS).
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Transaction ID: 0TR19308DU070732T
Description Unit price Qty Amount
Macbook Pro 17 inch
$2,100.00 USD 1
$2,100.00 USD
Shipment Fees :
$100.00USD
Total $2,200.00 USD
Issues with this transaction.
This is to inform you that you are required to ship the item to the address above via USPS (EMS) and get back to us with the relevant information which you will be provided at the post office after the package has been shipped, you are requested to email us the tracking number.
As soon as we have received the details from you, we will credit a sum of $2,200.00 USD to your PayPal account.
Below is the address where the buyer like the item ship out to.
Buyer Shipping Address. - confirmed
Okubadejo Hamed.A.
No 20 sapon road,
Abeokuta,
Ogun State,
Nigeria,
110001.
Please note:
We wish to inform you that [email protected] has made the payment of $2,200.00 USD to your account and the money is still in pending and we mandated you to ship the item before your account will be credited with the total sum of $2,200.00 USD.
This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited into your account until the shipment tracking number that will be given to you at the Post Office after you send the package send to us for the verification at our customer care:[email protected] as to secure both the buyer and the seller.
Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited:
All you have to do is to reply directly to this mail with the Tracking # provided at the Post Office Nearest to you.You can get more information on this once the details has been sent to us and verified, you will receive a "CONFIRMATION" E-mail" fromPayPal® Service informing you that your account has been credited with $2,200.00 USD .The Transaction will appear in your PayPal account Overview as Richie Mo after the Tracking Number have been verified.
Please understand that this is a security measure intended to help protect both the Buyer and the Seller.We apologize for the inconvenience this might have caused you.
PayPal would be responsible for any loss incurred during the course of this transaction.
We are very sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
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I bolded the suspicious lines, as these are the "red flags" that I look for (for good reason). Notice the HORRIBLE grammar and spelling. PayPal is a professional company, and they take great care to promote that image. As far as I know, all their emails are computer-generated.
So here's my response to "Richie Mo":
Nice try! It's a shame that you're a scammer, because it's a really nice computer. Those paypal emails are fake, I know for a fact. I am not new to craigslist at all, and I've turned down better fakes than you on the daily. Thank you for giving me a good laugh though!
Die slowly in a fire. Thank you!
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That was all yesterday. I wake up this morning, check my email, and guess who's online in GTalk? This was fun:
me: Hey, hows my favorite scammer today?
Richie: pls who are U?
me: the guy you tried to scam yesterday
Richie: pls am not a scammer
Richie: since you told m,e you are not interested in my transaction again
Richie: i hv cancell the money
me: you sent me FAKE paypal emails. im not stupid
Richie: pls i am not send you anythin. it is frm paypal
me: I know you werent sending me anything, it was fake
Richie: not a scammer
Richie: no
me: lol
Richie: it is real. if you want to deal with me
me: i do
Richie: i can resend the money to you ok
me: lol
me: no
me: I want to get rid of you
me: you are filth
me: scum
Richie: ok. i agree with you
Richie: pls i want to make a friend with you
Richie: you wil help me collect item for US
Richie: deal or not
me: Here's where you're fake: a paypal email will come from [email protected], yours came from @officemail.net
Richie: it base on perc
me: you can buy it on ebay
Richie: leave that
Richie: i want to make a deal with you
me: I want you to send me REAL money, not some fake ass email
Richie: i want to help colect item for US
Richie: pls leave all hat 4 now
Richie: i want u to help me colect item for US
Richie: you will be given a %
Richie: when you collec the money
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I'm fairly certain he was trying to recruit me. Lol.
Sorry, this was pretty long, but I hope you all get a good laugh out of this too (and maybe learn to save your ass one day from the likes of scams)
WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*cks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
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WOW that's great but the sad part is so many people fall for it that's why they keep doing it. Glad u used some common sense with this.
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I've been around the block a few times. I've had similar attempts on several different items in the past. One was a man offering more than asked plus $100 for shipping, but to his "daughter in west africa as a missionary". The sale was for a Behringer mixer for DJ-ing.
I hope that I have enlightened you all to the warnings and red flags to look for so this doesn't happen to you.
MacaronyMax said:
haha i probaly would have fel for it or just hav said buy it form ebay just because its simpler even if i didnt know it was a scam
oh and haha at the end convo
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eBay, at least in my head, is a safer way to deal with it because there's a third party involved. This all might be an illusion, but he sure seemed to hate the idea.
Diamond_dawg said:
pm me his gmail id....so i can have some fun too =)
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You have no reason to. Leave "Richie" alone lol
chopper the dog said:
Did anyone else use a fake Nigerian accent in their head while reading the part of Richie? I worked at a music store for years and dealt with that. Persistent f*ucks aren't they? Never fell for any of it.
nice read...
good day.
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Too funny! I was thinking of the "They eat the poopoos" accent, so not too far off lol
so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
^^^????????? he didn't steal no money someone was trying to scam him he's not Richie
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so you stole $2200 from a poor african and ur bragging about it
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Unfortunately, the attempt was the opposite.
If I had $2200, I'd be partying too hard to visit xda to post this lol
I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
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I love it when people post stuff about scammers!
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Same here, its good to show people it still happens.. Just a shame alot of people do fall for it..
I ALWAYS get those emails every time I post an Ad on Craigslist. I know its a scammer because they always refer to what your selling as an "item" not with "Hey do you still have the evo? Will you take $50 for it?" like the typical low ballers.
Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
hmm..
<sarcasm>I would have done the following (knowing it was a scam...)
I think it may be legal to send bodily fluids and feaces as long as it is packaged in such a way that odours are not emmited, and it doesn't leak.
Get a macbook box, just for fun, use it as my toilet for a day, package it all up properly of course. And send it to that address. Be interesting to see what happens when they did get the USPS tracking number </sarcasm>
I don't like scammers....
I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Such a shame. What I wouldn't give to meet a scammer like that and make them cry. My brother-in-law was a spammer, but that's more respectful.
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Hahaha yeah i supose it is
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(I know it isn't but I guess sarcasm does not carry over the internet to well!)
Its a shame google maps doesn't have much coverage on Nigeria, could pop a nice little map marker on for all to see that scammer lives here.... That would be an interesting layer.
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Very true lol. That would be very interesting, have a community-driven layer of known scamming addresses to check against.
wow. the nerve of some people.
It did give me a laugh though! I'm glad you knew it was a scammer (although it was pretty obvious)
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I'm fairly certain that isn't legal. I was planning on sending an empty box with too little postage and no return address, forcing "Richie" to foot the bill.
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Hehe thats a good idea
i posted my phone for sale on Craigslist. now i only deal with people locally and for cash, but someone had contacted me asking if i would ship to Louisiana.
now i've seen my fair share of scams. i've only texted with him/her so far and obviously having to ship and pay via PayPal were big red flags. otherwise, no broken English, no request to ship outside the continental US, etc.
IF (a BIG if) i decide to go through with this, here's a checklist:
confirm payment has been added to my account via logging in and/or calling PayPal to verify
ONLY ship to confirmed address listed on buyers PayPal account
opt for shipping insurance, delivery confirmation and signature verification (PayPal rep told me to do this to ensure I have paperwork in case a charge back occurs)
what do you think? i'm still strongly against shipping and will probably stick to my initial reaction...
I wouldn't do it.... But I'm a paranoid scaredy cat.
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If uncertain, wait till the money has moved from PayPal to your bank account before sending. I usually stipulate that on my eBay auctions and no-one's ever complained.
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thanks everyone.
as soon as i told buyer i'm only shipping to confirmed address on his/her PayPal account, they stopped responding to me.
What does the first email you go look like? (Protip: post the email here)
This way I can tell you if its a scam after posting dozens of ads on CL.
when I get those types of emails or text, I tell them either pay by western union or take your **** else where.....
*NOTE: This can be deleted, because I was being a moron. All I had to do was log into my PayPal account and see the funds weren't there, or even pending, and I knew immediately someone was trying to scam me. Should have known sooner, though.
So, I "sold" my HTC One on Craigslist, and the person who bought it apparently wants me to ship it to Nigeria where her son is sttending school; it's for his birthday. She gave me 60 bucks more than I was asking via PayPal, which she stated was for shipping. Aside from not knowing whether the Sprint variant will even work over there (does anyone know?), I can't help but feel uneasy about this whole thing. I guess as long as the funds clear I'm safe, and am under no obligation to (unlike with eBay), to right any wrongs she might point out later down the line. Should I just take the money send the phone and run, or is there something I'm not seeing that could cause legitimate problems?
Oh man that's a big no no. Doing business with people on craigslist who want to pay you through PayPal and Western Union plus wanting you to send it to another country which always seems to be in Africa is almost always a scam. If you read the craiglist faq you might get more info on what they do.
Edit: Glad you caught it
Mwahaha, I remember having one of these for a listing on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Businessman in Nigeria for his son's birthday. Were it not for the bad English, they actually had a reasonably convincing-looking PayPal e-mail notification (which failed Google's trusted vendor mail check, sure, but it was good nevertheless).
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Oh man that's a big no no. Doing business with people on craigslist who want to pay you through PayPal and Western Union plus wanting you to send it to another country which always seems to be in Africa is almost always a scam. If you read the craiglist faq you might get more info on what they do.
Edit: Glad you caught it
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Actually, the PayPal thing was my idea. It was my way to get a higher dollar amount for the phone, kind of like what some gas stations do with credit-based sales. In my case I asked $425 cash or $450 via PayPal. Maybe I should stick with cash and local sales, though.
And this scammer was the same deal, Rirere, except it was a woman sending to her son. I Googled the mailing address faux PayPal sent me and found other people who had also almost been ripped off.
It's a good idea to always deal in cash, locally, and meet at a sprint store. Unless you are selling on ebay, doing it this way will cover both seller and buyer.