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Hi, i posted in the Mr.Clean g4 rom thread about what happened to me, but i really want to try my best in seeing if there is a possible fix for this phone. I'm sorry if i'm being annoying, but i am going to try everything in my power to get this phone to work, cause i wasn't able to replace it, and it was so expensive! AND I LOVE IT DEATHHHHHHH
Allright, i have a T-Mobile USA MDA, now i'm not sure if it has a g3 or g4 chip, that is my mistake. I went ahead and installed the g4 version of mr clean. It Installed, loaded up and i calibrated my screen and everything was going great. Then it started installing the customizations, and it turned off, forever. It won't turn on, no bootloader, no nothing. I had a 60% charge on the battery when this started, and this shouldn't be the problem as it loaded up fine, and it was charging while the customizations where loading.
So now i'm left with a plastic brick. Thank you for any kind of help whatsoever.
again, sorry to be asking for this, but i'm so desperate at this point.
I am a newby but am a reader of about 7 months.
I too have exactly the same issue on three devices. I tried one and it went brickward bound. Thought it was a dodgy device so tried another..........exactly the same again. Then my very patient and understanding boss walked in and said that he tried his last night and......well.....now I have three bricks on my desk. :? The only diference to the post before me is that mine are T-Mobile UK Wizards.
Any thoughts would be most welcome.
Mine went exactly the same way R.I.P
What exactly happens in the customization? I thought it was just installing the odd program etc?
Not dead yet
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You probably had the G4 chipset you can always take the phone for replacement. Just tell them it wasn't working when you got it home. Tell them it won't power on
Same issue with me here, Mine just stopped working too... Now I brought it back to the Tmobile store, and I have 2 wait for 2 weeks..
Except. I did not have an non Tmobile Rom on it..
f18viper said:
Hi, i posted in the Mr.Clean g4 rom thread about what happened to me, but i really want to try my best in seeing if there is a possible fix for this phone. I'm sorry if i'm being annoying, but i am going to try everything in my power to get this phone to work, cause i wasn't able to replace it, and it was so expensive! AND I LOVE IT DEATHHHHHHH
Allright, i have a T-Mobile USA MDA, now i'm not sure if it has a g3 or g4 chip, that is my mistake. I went ahead and installed the g4 version of mr clean. It Installed, loaded up and i calibrated my screen and everything was going great. Then it started installing the customizations, and it turned off, forever. It won't turn on, no bootloader, no nothing. I had a 60% charge on the battery when this started, and this shouldn't be the problem as it loaded up fine, and it was charging while the customizations where loading.
So now i'm left with a plastic brick. Thank you for any kind of help whatsoever.
again, sorry to be asking for this, but i'm so desperate at this point.
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exactly the same here, mda vario is dead too. looking for solutions.
JTAG flashing?
I wonder if anyone has information on how to JTAG flash a Wizard G4, or would be this just be at HTC's factories/repair depots?
(JTAG flashing is attaching clips to certain chip pinouts and flashing it using a dedicated device that is for this purpose.)
I am a Newbie so be patient with me and your advice is appreciated.
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wiza200) G3
Rom 1.1.7.5
Radio 4.0.13.16
Ext rom 1.1.7.105
I purchased the phone unlocked and have used it with sim's from other countries. When I attempt to run the following updates.
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2
I get the error "file name is not a valid Pocket PC application".
What am I doing wrong?
(I have also read all the recommended threats which were great. Thanks for sharing)
you obvious did not read all the recommenced sites! My guess is that you tried to run the upgrade file in pocket pc. You must connect your phone to the computer and establish activsync connection first. than you run the upgrade file on your computer
gonzo11 said:
I am a Newbie so be patient with me and your advice is appreciated.
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wiza200) G3
Rom 1.1.7.5
Radio 4.0.13.16
Ext rom 1.1.7.105
I purchased the phone unlocked and have used it with sim's from other countries. When I attempt to run the following updates.
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2
I get the error "file name is not a valid Pocket PC application".
What am I doing wrong?
(I have also read all the recommended threats which were great. Thanks for sharing)
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Navy2010 is correct you are running the updates from your PPC this won't work. You must run the programs from a PC. I also suggest a little more reading.
To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
Make sure you have CID unlocked the device.
Kirby
Thanks Gents but one more question for u?
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
gonzo11 said:
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
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Sounds like a hardware failure and could be the reason the phone was sold... ?? If you can return it under some warrantee, I'd lean that direction.
--M
I agree.
Yep I agree. I have sent an email to the seller. In all fairness He sold me a brand new device and he has been pretty good so far. Let see what he says now. I'll update the post when he gets back to me. Thanks for you comments.
Seller has sent me an RMA form
I guess he is going to repair it or replace it.
He emailed me an RMA form which I have sent back. Saga continues.
gonzo11 said:
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
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I have had this problem but in reverse it turned out to be muck under the screen and would cause the start button to activate by just pushing the side of the case.
Get a laminated buisness card or something like it and slide it in between the screen and case
You may have something here
Thanks Eddieitman. I tried it and nothing much came out, but usually after a few mins the screen locks up. This time it's still responsive after 15mins. We'll wait and see after an hour if it still works. fingers are cross.
btw nice site.
Still locking up but a little squeeze works. lol
I am talking about the device. lol Unfortunately, it's still locking up. But when I squeeze the sides of screen it comes back. Sounds like my situation maybe a little worse than yours. I going to send it back and see what they do. thks for the help.
Screen issue not covered by warrantee.
This is a Update/FYI.
I sent my phone into Arvato Teleservice out of Germany to fix the screen issue. $97.00 cdn to do so. First off their customer service is absolutely horrendous. So avoid them.
They determined the issue to be a damaged Main Board, but because of the flashed ROM they are not going to do it under warrantee. I should of downgraded before sending it in (my fault). I am still fighting with them.
Cost to fix $490.00repair + $97.00shipping = buy a new phone.
I am not suggesting it is a result of the ROM but wondering has anyone experienced screen issues after flashing the ROM?
I bought an ATT tilt quite a while ago. It is out of warranty now, and wouldn't you know it, something went wrong.
I'm currently using Dutty's Diamond ROM (with the keyboard fix installed), but the same happened before with the official ROM. While I text some keys don't work. I'll be typing away, just to look at the screen and see that I am missing a bunch of letters, rendering the message unreadable. I then have to go back and fill in all the blanks, and even then sometimes it takes several tries to get it to go. The same happens with the backspace key; sometimes it just doesn't work, other times it does (oddly enough, when it doesn't work normally, it usually lets me hit "function" and use it as the delete key).
My other concern is that there is a ton of lag while typing. It takes a while for letters to show up. Is that normal (for the Tilt, at least. I'm still wishing I had bought a BlackBerry)?
Yeah, I had similar troubles. I just upgraded my SPL and hopefully will be testing it further testing.
what SPL are you running?
I'm not entirely sure, it was a while ago that I flashed the ROM. How do I find out what it is? I tried Device Information, but it wasn't there.
you have to put it in Bootloader mode.
hold power and camera button while resetting with the stylus, then you'll come to the tricolor screen which will give you the SPL info.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
crushbup said:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
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You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
mech_supernova said:
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
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What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
crushbup said:
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
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cnn.cn has them for cheap AFAIK!
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
whistler4ever said:
You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
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I got the same SPL he has, I did a hard reset afterwards then downgraded back to 1.0 because I saw no improvement.
I thought RomeOS worked best with 3.29.
crushbup said:
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
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http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p4550-keyboard-flex-p-1433.html
found this in another thread!
Success! If the SPL doesn't work and I can't convince AT&T to do it, I'll order one and put it in. How do you install it?
EDIT: I just installed skyfire, and noticed that while I was putting in my email and password it was smooth and nothing was skipped. I'm almost 100% certain this is a problem with WinMo itself
I have been having the same problem as you are describing, but I have noticed that it is with heavy use keys like T, H, E, R, S and for some reason V.
I was getting the feeling that it was a hardware problem rather than a software problem because, especially with the V, I have to apply a bit of pressure to get the button to work.
Unfortunately for me I bought mine off Ebay so the warranty is already void.
Incidentally mine started happening when I had the original network providers (T-Mobile) rom on it. I have since installed an original HTC rom and it hasnt made the slightest bit of difference.
So, how easy is it to open up the back of the Tytn II and replace the keyboard unit then?
Oh my god! Thank you for posting this. I swear I have always felt like posting this but always got too lazy. I thought it was only me that had this problem. It is so annoying typing away, and then having to spend another minute to retype the letters that didn't get inputed the first time. It is so frustrating and I thought it was my fault or something, or ROM, I believe its hardware related, but I am not going to spend another dime on this POS. I'm just not so patiently awaiting t-mobile to release their android device, and I will jump ship and never look back! Thanks for the post again, it has given me piece of mind.....ironically
I'm kind of wanting T-Mobile's Android phone, but seeing as how it's made by HTC, I'll wait for the first couple of user-reviews to come out. I bought the Tilt based on website reviews, but man, I was really misled. They said the camera was great, I can only get blurry unrecognizable images. They made no mention of the fact that when you switch to landscape it takes 3 seconds for all the graphics to appear.
I'm disappointed, and I think my next phone will be a plain vanilla flip phone.
Anywho, I'm updating the SPL now, I'll post if it makes any change.
Okay, I now have HardSPL 3.56 and there does not appear to be much of a change. There was some short lag at the beginning of the text string, but afterwards it caught up. I missed no letters this time. I cannot say how much of this was the placebo effect (i.e. it just felt faster), but perhaps if everyone with the issue tries we can have a reasonable answer.
ETA: I added a poll, so if you try this, fill in the poll!
disable word suggestion under Input setting.
i don't miss any characters with it disabled.
It was already disabled for me. I know I didn't change it, I think the ROM came that way.
Must admit I'm just about to part company with the TyTn. I've been impressed with it to a degree as a PDA but I do think the phone element of it is atrocious. What makes it worse now is that there seems to be problem after problem with it, especially after the 6.1 upgrade.
Latest problem is that today it just seems to slow down, lock or even freeze completely. Going to contacts and hitting a contact in the list doesn't open it up any more and problems just seem to start from there. Once this happens I can't close programmes, can't navigate in them, in fact can't do anything, at least until the damn thing seems to catch up with a key press I made 1/2 an hour ago. Restarts and battery removal seem to fix it for 1/2 an hour or so but then it's back to lag and lock. Sick and tired of it now.
It got turned off and on again while connected to PC by USB and not sure if that's caused it but overall I'm getting quite fed up with the device and the WM 6.1 combi.
Contemplating a hard reset or even re-flash (possibly back to WM6.0 but the problems with SPL reversion put me off that) to try to fix what has just become a bug ridden pain to use.
Did you install Hard SPL to upgrade to WM6.1, or are you using your Carriers ROM?
If so what version of Hard SPL are you currently using?
Ta
Dave
Dont forget that its not the phone´s fault but M$ and HTC. They build the crappy roms. I have cooked rom on my kaiser and I am more then satisfied with it.
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same here, though i have this device since may this year. I have to say that a flash with a custom rom improves the quality of the kaiser. Carrier roms are slow and full with programs i do not use.
My only remark is that the phone reacts slow on phonecalls. It takes a second or two before the phone rings when you are called. Besides that, the phone responses slow when i end a call. So the reaction time can be improved. Still: that's my only remark and i do not even know if that is a phone or os related problem.
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Ditto, I've had mine a year and it's a champ. Either your spl is wrong for 6.1 or your phone is sick and needs to go to the phone hospital.
Never had any problem with my Tytn II ....love it,, with me since April this year...
The Copilot GPS software which i got free with phone works like a dream.
Cheers.
No problems with my device and I am taking it to the limits daily.
If you need a solid fast reliable smartphone - you can sure find better then this.
but if you look for a device that can be configured to fit exactly your taste and needs with the best support ever (yes, I'm speaking about the XDA-Dev forum) keep this one.
this is the ultimate device for those who are seeking for constant improvment and willing to invest some of their time in it (flashing flashing flashing)
Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.
I suggest you do a hard reset; then install Hard SpL and go to WM 6.1. Once SpL is installed there will be very few, if any, problems with the device.
Cheers
MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same for me. I have had nothing but great luck with my 8925 with the stock ATT ROM.... And its a refurb!
Maybe you just have a bad phone. You don't judge the heard by one horse.
Empgamer said:
Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.
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Thats weird mate, before even knowing that xda existed I flashed mine to 6.1 on the HTC site and it worked like a charm.
I have to say that I bought this phone well knowing that it was more of a ppc than a phone. I have to say that this phone has BLOWN ME AWAY with the capabilities shown through this forum. I suppose I shouldnt be surprised, being that it is practically a computer, all the mods are basically batch files and adjusting the registry or are skins. I absolutely love this machine!
I have had a htc g1 t mobile in 100% working condition for a long period of time. a month ago i rooted the phone ( and i was successful), downgraded the phone to rc29 and tried to put the hero firm ware into my phone. in the process of trying to put the new firm ware i came across some difficulties and now, as what they say "bricked" my phone. immediately as this happened i was able to reach such screens as holding the end key and the camera key landing upon a white page with some options. not having much knowledge i played around with it and now my phone is completely unresponsive. all it will do is start up and stay on the g1 spalsh home screen and only when i take out the battery will it shut of. holding down any certain keys together does not seem to help. i have also given my phone to such companies as SN traders who were unsuccessful in repairing it as they said " they could not identify the problem". perhaps they never really tried. but the point is, i want my phone to work again. do you have any suggestions as to what i may do to bring my phone back to life or perhaps suggest a place to go to that will repair it for a fee. Please help . thanks in advance
arbab01 said:
I have had a htc g1 t mobile in 100% working condition for a long period of time. a month ago i rooted the phone ( and i was successful), downgraded the phone to rc29 and tried to put the hero firm ware into my phone. in the process of trying to put the new firm ware i came across some difficulties and now, as what they say "bricked" my phone. immediately as this happened i was able to reach such screens as holding the end key and the camera key landing upon a white page with some options. not having much knowledge i played around with it and now my phone is completely unresponsive. all it will do is start up and stay on the g1 spalsh home screen and only when i take out the battery will it shut of. holding down any certain keys together does not seem to help. i have also given my phone to such companies as SN traders who were unsuccessful in repairing it as they said " they could not identify the problem". perhaps they never really tried. but the point is, i want my phone to work again. do you have any suggestions as to what i may do to bring my phone back to life or perhaps suggest a place to go to that will repair it for a fee. Please help . thanks in advance
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When Upgrading to the newest hero rom did you
1. Upgrage to the newest radio? http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
2. Upgrade to the newest SPL? ( You can find it in the first URL)
3. Partition Your SD card to a Fat32/ext3/Linux-Swap?
yes i recal doing all of those things i believe in the process of upgrading to the newest spl or newest radio i went wrong. i think i tried to put a file on b4 having the prerequiste for it. not sure which one. but in the middle of these process is where the problem arose.
arbab01 said:
yes i recal doing all of those things i believe in the process of upgrading to the newest spl or newest radio i went wrong. i think i tried to put a file on b4 having the prerequiste for it. not sure which one. but in the middle of these process is where the problem arose.
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When Upgrading the SPL, what where the steps you took?
Did you upgrade the Radio before the SPL?
hmmmmm, seems you screwed yourself. knowledge is power and not enough knowledge is a huge downfall. maybe next time you will take the time to read and understand
sorry, please try again
seems the wrecking crew's bans are all lifted cept for 2
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When Upgrading the SPL, what where the steps you took?
Did you upgrade the Radio before the SPL?
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i dont remeber my memory is kind of vague this happend over a month ago. i have resulted to this forum due to a lack of help from such companies as SN trader who had my phone for a month and could not fix it. say i did upgrade the radio b4 the spl? in fact, as i type it, it seems more likely that is what i did.
arbab01 said:
i dont remeber my memory is kind of vague this happend over a month ago. i have resulted to this forum due to a lack of help from such companies as SN trader who had my phone for a month and could not fix it. say i did upgrade the radio b4 the spl? in fact, as i type it, it seems more likely that is what i did.
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When applying the latest SPL did you flash a new rom right after??
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all i remeber is i had the rom on my sd card and when i tried to flash it it showed an error or somthing. this might not be accurate to what actullay happend but my memory is shot.
again with the victim theme? the guy who go's out, buys a new r-1 with no motorcycle endorsement or training then piles it into a tree isn't a victim. he's an idiot. now, what you did is not nearly that, but if you can't get into any recovery screens, you own a brick.
sorry, but rooting your phone isn't like changing the wall paper. bad things can happen.
Seriously buddy, there are warning signs posted on almost all the threads on this forums when dealing with flashing stuff. All the risks are laid out and people will tell you to do your research before doing anything. I was scared ****less the first time i installed the "death/danger" spl even though i knew exactly what i was doing.
You bricked your phone.
There's not much else to say, on the developer section of this forum, there's a thread , something about "thinktank for bricked g1's" go there and you might find some solutions
arbab01, I sent you a PM.