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I'm a windows mobile newbie and wasn't able to find the answer performing a forum search, so hoping someone here might be able to help me clear up my confusion between: 'HTC Homescreen', 'HTC homescreen plugin', and 'HTCHomeplug'.
When I go to: Start > Settings > Personal Tab > Today > Items Tab . . . both 'HTC Home' & 'HTCHomeplug' appear as items of which can be checked/unchecked.
It's my understanding that the Tilt includes only the at&t version of the HTC homescreen (today), and that changing it to look like the original Kaiser's requires installing an 'HTC homescreen plugin'. After installing a 'HTC homescreen plugin', 'HTC HTC Home' now appears in the Tilt's 'Remove Programs' option list: Start > Settings > System > Remove Programs.
Questions:
1) If the "HTC HTC Home" program is removed, will the (today) homescreen then revert back to the at&t version of the homescreen again? If not, how (short of performing a hard reset) can the at&t version be reinstalled again?
2) Is it also recommended that "HTC HTC Home" be removed BEFORE installing any subsequent 'HTC homescreen' plugins?
3) In addition, it's my understanding that the 'HTCHomeplug' merely displays icons for battery level & screen orientation so pretty much redundant to include on the Today Screen, as these functions are already included in the available 5/6 tab HTC homescreen plugins. Are there any special functions/features in the 'HTCHomeplug' not avaialble in an 'HTC Homescreen' plugin?
Thanks for all feedback and advice.
Jazz
I think you are a little bit mixed up, or at least I was reading that.
The one that comes with the Tilt: "HTCHomeplug"
The one that comes with the Kaiser: "HTC Home"
The HTCHomeplug cannot be un-installed thru Start>settings>remove programs. The only way the remove the HTCHomeplug is to either manually delete the files or install a cooked ROM.
To answer your first question, the HTCHomeplug is not dependent on the HTC Home add-on whatsoever. If you remove the HTC Home add-on it will not revert back to the HTCHomeplug unless you tell it to. The HTCHomeplug can be displayed at any time, even if HTC Home is installed, they 2 completely separate programs.
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
jazzman-t said:
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
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The newest version of HTC Home(version 2.0) supports selecting a different number.
You can get it here.
jazzman-t said:
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
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I don't know about linking directly to another number, but if you click and hold on the contact, it will open their entry in the contact list, allowing you to choose a different number (or send sms/mms/email).
johanromijn said:
The newest version of HTC Home(version 2.0) supports selecting a different number.
You can get it here.
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Johnanromijn, many thanks dude. Installed it and the pic-touch tel number selection feature works perfectly now.
Jazz
jazzman-t said:
Johnanromijn, many thanks dude. Installed it and the pic-touch tel number selection feature works perfectly now.
Jazz
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I just discovered that myself and was heading back here to update my post... it works great!
ok dumb question here...
i have a the tilt ver. and was thinking of getting the htc home theme i guess you would call it. i dont want to flash my rom, so is it just a cab or no?
grandsuke said:
ok dumb question here...
i have a the tilt ver. and was thinking of getting the htc home theme i guess you would call it. i dont want to flash my rom, so is it just a cab or no?
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As a PocketPC Phone & WM newbie with very much to discover & learn from the experts here about cooked Roms etc, I too opted not to flash my Tilt's rom (yet) either. On the other hand, I removed all at&t bloatware, and thus freeing up LOTS of on board memory, by performing a hard reset, and then pressing the reset button during the 3 second countdown, right before the at&t bloatware gets installed.
After that, I got 'HTC Home' d/l link (here) of which also includes two other cab files (Cert_SPCS & sdcerts) to utilize only if you have installation problems. Because I had no problems, I only needed to copy the "Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722-schen.cab" Cab file to the tilt, and then use the file browser point to the cab and install it. After installing, I performed a soft reset, and now have both an impressive looking & customizable HTC Home screen. This version of "HTC Home" is definitely a keeper.
Jazz.
sooo...does this mean i can just install a htc theme over everything else? or do i have to do the hard rest/soft/etc etc?
grandsuke said:
sooo...does this mean i can just install a htc theme over everything else? or do i have to do the hard rest/soft/etc etc?
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Grandsuke: unlike the HTC Kaiser, the Tilt doesn't come preloaded with "HTC Home" , so if you've not installed it on your Tilt before, go ahead & simply install without a hard/soft reset. For people who've already installed another version of "HTC Home" on their Tilt, I'd recommend removing it first, then perform a soft reset, and then reinstall the new version of "HTC Home". Jazz
Can this be used on other HTC or WM5 products like the Cingular 3125 (Star 100) which is the smartphone edition?
Guys,
New user - very impressed, found lots of good stuff here - hoping someone can help with this one:
I have had my Vodafone Touch Diamond for just over a month - very nice phone, awful speed!!! I hate the Vodafone default theme, so I had installed the default black one that I found here - very nice looking theme!!
Now I have just upgraded to the 1.93 Vodafone ROM, and the phone finally runs at a half-decent pace - problem is the nasty Vodafone them is back. I then re-installed the old black theme I had, and it has slowed the phone right down again (in fact slower than it was on the old ROM, and some graphics weren't as good) - it looks like the 1.93 ROM has a newer version of Touchflo (or is it the theme?). Basically, the phone, on the settings screen, says it is running Touchflo 3D version 1.1.34574.1_1630.38. It clearly is different, as the animation is less, and there are subtle changes (alphabetical index when selecting country or town in Weather, for example).
I would rather have the newer TouchFlo (the losses in animation are worth it for good performance).
So the question - anyone know where I can get the updated black Touchflo software for the 1.93 ROM? I appreciate I could flash a non-voda ROM into the phone, but would rather not - don't want to lose my Voda sat-nav, for instance.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated, guys.
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul From Swindon,
I'm Nathan From Oxford lol....oh the hatred (football Terms)
I'm using the vodafone ROM and i installed this great Diamond TF3D Config Tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
I then also got the Black Diamond Theme, can't remember the link for that and saved it to my internal storage.
I then used the Config tool to install the black theme.
Its fairly quick and keeps the extras like sat nav etc.
I did try installing the new HTC ROM however it DID like you say removed all the settings and the vodafone extras. so it took me about an hour to find and install the Vodafone one again.
Annoying!
Also in Oxford
hi guys, Ralf here also in Oxford. I've had my Diamond for about the same time and been playing with some of the tweaks to try and speed it up. Interestingly I bumped into a guy in Carphonewarehouse the other day who was the Microsoft Trainer for the Diamond. He was great and spent about 20 mins showing me around some areas of the phone. The unit he was running was not Vodafone branded and was so amazingly quick. I've managed to up the speed a bit but it's still slow in comparison to the unit I saw the MS guy with.
To be honest I've been very wary of trying one of the other ROM upgrades as I don't want to brick my handset or loose the Vodafone Sat Nav etc.
I just looked and my handset is on ROM 1.37.161.2 dated 26/6/08.
Can you please point me in the direction of where you got the latest Vodfone ROM from and how easy it to apply it (I should also add that I'm using a Mac not a PC so if there is some PC based tool then I'll have a small problem using it).
Thanks
Ralf
heres the link for the official vodafone ROM update LINK
its a piece of cake to install, but not sure about using a mac!
just a quick thought about the vodafone sat nav;
once you've clicked through the initial link, it just downloads a cab (installation) file,
which is easy enough to find and copy through active sync onto your computer for safe keeping.
Thanks
Cheers for the info and link there, I managed to download the installer and am just waiting now until the new PC laptop I ordered for my wife arrives at the weekend so that I can give it a go.
Thanks
Ralf
In Finland here. I want to use the official ROM as well, but my provider doesn't have one available, and the HTC Europe site tells me that the ROM updater is not for my device.
Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.
I am a registered e-club member, with the serial number registered. How can I get the ROM properly? Or if I install this one from Vodafone, will it affect my phone somehow?
nwilko said:
Hi Paul From Swindon,
I'm Nathan From Oxford lol....oh the hatred (football Terms)
I'm using the vodafone ROM and i installed this great Diamond TF3D Config Tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
I then also got the Black Diamond Theme, can't remember the link for that and saved it to my internal storage.
I then used the Config tool to install the black theme.
Its fairly quick and keeps the extras like sat nav etc.
I did try installing the new HTC ROM however it DID like you say removed all the settings and the vodafone extras. so it took me about an hour to find and install the Vodafone one again.
Annoying!
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Hi Nwilko,
Did you have to install HardSPL before flashing original HTC rom?
Hi Guys,
Thanks for your thoughts so far - sorry, been off-line all week.
Nathan, thanks for your thoughts - this is what I tried doing, but when I installed the defalt black theme from this site via the config tool, it went incredibly slowly, and lost some of the new features in the TouchFlo system, such as alphabetical indexes on the weather, and seemed to return some of the aminations that had been taken out - it was taking up to 5 seconds to scrol between main screens, much worse than before - I also noticed I couldn't read some of the text.
I guess what I could do with is the Touchflo software from the 1.93 ROM update. It, I assume, exists as a cab that installs when you first switch on a non-branded phone after a ROM update. I am guessing that default one already comes with the black theme, and has the speed and menu improvements.
I have tried to live with the Voda theme for the last week, but there is no getting away from the fact that it looks terrible. The whole phone just looks so good when the black theme is applied.
I am tempted just to try and install the HTC ROM and scrap my Voda one. I really didn't want to lose Sat-Nav - I agree the link on the Voda ROM just downloads a Cab file, but I am worried it won't activate - does something in the ROM tell it that ot's on a free subscription, or does the website activate it from the mobile number - I don't want to pay 4.99 per month for it! Anyone tried it?
Thanks
Paul
Guys,
Gave up on trying to get a newer black theme for my Vodafone TD. Bit the bullet, and installed Hard-SPL, and the latest factory ROM (thanks in large part to the exceellent info on this site!).
So far all looks good - nice and quick, lovely black theme once more, nice speed, and newer radio ROM too (the new Voda Rom still had older radio version).
Fingers crossed, it seems much better - and because I kept the Vodafone Sat-Nav CAB file, re-installed it and it seems to work fine!!
Coolio!!
Paul
Rom
Hi guys I will I also have the same problem the vodafone diamond is to slow.
I will install this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405728
very good comments .I don't have time to do it now I am travelling abroad. I will be grateful if someone try it on vodafone devise, and rate it.
so, does anyone have the default black tf3d theme from a 1.93 rom?
Hi
I have searched and found no answers to this particular question, I have recieved an o2 Ignito today as an upgrade for my partner, I have sucsessfully installed the solid black windows theme and the original HTC Touchflo, I have now found that the Comm Manager is still o2 blue, I have tried downloading the new updated comm manager which works but it is still blue. I basically want it to be the standard grey colours as on the original diamond but I am out of ideas, I don't really want to flash the ignito with a ROM from the forum as I don't really want to void the warranty. Putting the serial number into HTC Support has let me register the phone ok but It says the ROM upgrade is not compatible so that was a dead end.
If anyone has any info or solutions I would be most gratefull
Thanks
Richard
All files for this are located in the windows folder.
Maybe some guys from the forum can upload the files from a htc rom.
Just put the files in your windows folder an overwrite the old ones.
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Hi
I have searched and found no answers to this particular question, I have recieved an o2 Ignito today as an upgrade for my partner, I have sucsessfully installed the solid black windows theme and the original HTC Touchflo, I have now found that the Comm Manager is still o2 blue, I have tried downloading the new updated comm manager which works but it is still blue. I basically want it to be the standard grey colours as on the original diamond but I am out of ideas, I don't really want to flash the ignito with a ROM from the forum as I don't really want to void the warranty. Putting the serial number into HTC Support has let me register the phone ok but It says the ROM upgrade is not compatible so that was a dead end.
If anyone has any info or solutions I would be most gratefull
Thanks
Richard
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Had my Ignito last week and am still trying to get back up to speed with WM devices (2/3 years since my wizard). How did you make everything black? And do i NEED to be updating the comm manager?
Thanks.
Matt.
To get the windows top and bottom bars black I found a WM6 theme called soloblack.tsk once added to the windows directory it can be seen in the today settings and once applied it changes bars to solid black, the downside is the large start menu was still blue!! Changing the start menu to small icons seemed to fix this but I think this is again dependent on the theme you install so the files required were not there.
The comm manager seems to be theme dependant too, I found the original HTC Black theme but this didn't have data for the comm manager so it stayed the o2 blue colours, I tried another theme and it worked with the comm manager but the sound settings menu was looking horrid so at the moment I have taken it back to full o2 blue until i can find a full HTC black theme with the comm manager included etc.
Hope this makes sense.
Rich
Hi,
Can anybody advise of how to remove the O2 Software which is pre-installed when purchasing the device? I have read that it makes the device slow, which I am finding plus most of the O2 software installed is unnecessary.
Thanks in advance.
Software removal
3 ways which this can be done.
1 - hardspl the device install a new rom.
2 - hard reset device, when it goes to customisation part, hit the reset button - think you dont get tf3d if you do it like this.
3 - install a new theme - easy to do, just do a search - and manually unisntall apps from the add remove.
Just bear in mind that:
1. If you hardspl and install one of the fabulous roms cooked up by the chefs on this site, you will also almost certainly invalidate your warranty.
2. If you reset before customising, you will be left with a very bland WM interface
Hold on, what O2 software are you actually talking about? I've got an Ignito and I'm not aware of any O2 specific software on the device (or nothing that runs automatically anyway).
Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
Teej53214 said:
Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
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According to many actual users experiences, chances to migrate all your data and settings from WM 6.0 to WM 6.1 or higher are very low.
Sad but true
Thanks for the input.. but from what you are saying.. I would be able to do it from 6.1 rom to 6.1 rom or 6.2 rom to 6.2 rom ?
Teej53214 said:
Thanks for the input.. but from what you are saying.. I would be able to do it from 6.1 rom to 6.1 rom or 6.2 rom to 6.2 rom ?
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If you are talking a custom ROM - I doubt it.
The chefs make lots of special accomodations and the ods that it will work out of the box on a custom ROM is not something that I would bet ANY money on at all.
Bill
Teej53214 said:
Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
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Sprite back up will backup and restore your data from 6.0 to 6.1. But it will not restore your settings. Different roms, 6.0,6.1 and 6.5, have different registry settings and differing shortcut pathways and such, so while some restored settings will work, many will not . And your phone will freeze while Sprite tries to sort it all out. (from experience ) There is a way to upgrade sprite to 6.1 on the upgraded rom, to allow setting to be restored, but it never worked for me and I just gave up and restored apps manually.
Oh and FYI , this should have been posted in Kaiser General, it really has nothing to do with rom development or custom roms. Just trying to be helpful for future posting.
denco7 said:
Oh and FYI , this should have been posted in Kaiser General, it really has nothing to do with rom development or custom roms. Just trying to be helpful for future posting.
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^^
Dave