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Hi all - I have a weird problem for which I am hoping people here would have a resolution. Recently bought a Tytn II,
ROM Version 1.81.415.4 WWE
ROM Date 10/29/07
Radio Version 1.27.15.32
Protocol version 22.51.88.13W
Using with a 2 GB memory card
Now, i have noticed a few times that the device just does not come out from the standby mode - the Green LED indicating that the GSM is on is flashing, but when I try to call into it using anothe rphone, it indicates being switched off or not reachable. I try to start is using the power key, or any number of keys without luck - the only way out is a soft reset.
I have seen some people quote a similar problem, but not inding a resolution there, am posting this up here
Pls help - I am extremely reliant on this as a business device and will get stuck if it behaves like this
Have you tried a hard reset? I know some radio's/ROM's have this issue
mine started doing that a while back and I found that it was a combination of my phone automaticly reciving an email while it was asleep and this program I had that gave you points for AP's and cell towers I forget what its called after I got rid of that program and changed my email to retrive manually the problem stoped
What apps would I need after a hard reset ?
KDKobes said:
Have you tried a hard reset? I know some radio's/ROM's have this issue
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Hi - thanks for the valuable advice. I would do so - however, another problem is compounding the same - I got this from a friend, and dont have the getting started CD that comes with the pack - can you tell me about, on a hard reset, what apps would I need to reload from the getting started CD? Or would I not need the CD ? I have all the other contact data with me on Outlook, and the other files I have copies of on the computer, so I don't plan to use a backup/ restore.
The only thing I have noticed that gets changed is the sensitivity resets to default usually which can be changed back in KaiserTweak or Advanced Configuration. I would say if you have never done any ROM or Radio changes to the device, and its a new phone its probably got something wrong with it. That gives you 2 options. 1 - take it back and get it replaced if you can, or 2 - follow the WIKI and change you ROM/Radio, but read WIKI because you will need to HardSPl before flashing anything.
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
I have the same issue once in a while. In my case gwes.exe hangs at that point which after that i have to soft reset. Still have no fix found though
I'm sorry but my fix wont work for you as its only for people whose phones only crash in standby there is no gwes.exe hang associated with it. Obviously it only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
@nlel
I allready tried a hard reset but the problem returns after a certain time.
The gwes.exe does not hang when using the device, it only hangs when resuming from standby and does not allways occur.
Well in your case its very obviously a software or hardware problem and nothing to do with the SIM and/or settings which impact the SIM. I don't know what else to suggest if my solution doesn't help I don't know what else you can try to do btw how do you know gwes.exe is crashing when resuming from standby.
When it happens to me (because of phone band type set to auto) I cannot see what is happening on the phone at that precise moment as I have to soft reset. There is nothing that is obviously crashing at the same time.
By the way gwes.exe according to MSDN, its Graphics, Windowing, and Events Subsystem. GWES loads display drivers, printer drivers, and touch screen drivers, maybe you have a hardware fault.
Does it happen to both your Tytn II's?? and have you tried my solution or a new SIM ?
Hi guys,
I have just bought my Tilt 8925. Everything is going fine except the Storage card, the PDA seems not able to read the storage card - Kingston 1G mircoSD.
I tried something like:
- Format the card with my PC and copy some file into the card but when I use File Explorer to find the card, nothing there.
- Check About: Expansion slot: In use
- Check Memory: Total storage card memory: Not installed.
What should I do to make the PDA recognize the card? Any help is much appreciated.
Hi there
Have you tried formatting the card with the PDA instead of the PC? I'm sure Windows Mobile has the setting somewhere (can't think off the top of my head!)
Or, could use 3rd party software like Pocket Mechanic to format it?
p.dixon0 said:
Hi there
Have you tried formatting the card with the PDA instead of the PC? I'm sure Windows Mobile has the setting somewhere (can't think off the top of my head!)
Or, could use 3rd party software like Pocket Mechanic to format it?
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I have used Pocket Mechanic but even this software can not find the storage card. I have also tried with a few other cards but the phone can not read either.
What should I do now?
I think you may have a bad storage card. Have you tried another one?
If you try another and it still fails to read the card then it is the Tilt, but try another card first.
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I have used Pocket Mechanic but even this software can not find the storage card. I have also tried with a few other cards but the phone can not read either.
What should I do now?
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If you've tried other cards, then it seems like your phone has a hardware problem with the microSD slot. If you're still under the 1 year warranty, it should be covered.
Had a similar problem with my htc tytn ii (not tilt). Was a day away from booking it in for repairs when I downloaded the official WM6.1 rom. Flashed it and it worked.
Then it worked again. Hard reset didn't do the trick for me.
Thanks all guys
I have tried all solution that I could find from forum, google...But I have to convince myself that it is hardware problem.
I will flash another ROM as last hope.
I have the same problem for about 1month now.. It just stopped reading the mem card.. After a few days, I was able to see the card again in the device's file explorer, but after a few minutes it desappeared (lol)
I needed my tytnII, so I haven't send the device for repairs yet, but I will tomorrow..
I tried everything possible (tried to use other mem cards, flash offcial roms, cooked light roms, etc) but nothing worked.. And my mem card is read by other devices.. I'm also convinced it is a hardware prob..
Just be sure to revert to an official rom and revert the SPL as well, so you don't void the warranty.. You can find the instructions here
Cheers
Hi again
I know this doesn't really help but I had a similar problem with an SD card I bought for a digital camera a while ago (256MB card - biggest there was when I bought it )
I had bought 2 cameras and 2 cards (one for me, one for my dad). His memory card just refused to work in either of the cameras, but worked fine in my Nokia 6600 (told you it was a while ago!). Tried formatting with the PC, phone etc. but nothing worked - had to get a new SD card in the end to replace it
I'm having the same problem. Expansion slot says it's in use, but file explorer shows no card installed. Settings - Memory says no installation. Do you really think flashing a 6.1 rom might help?
nash_vegas said:
I'm having the same problem. Expansion slot says it's in use, but file explorer shows no card installed. Settings - Memory says no installation. Do you really think flashing a 6.1 rom might help?
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Who are you asking?
Does it not see other cards? Even after a hard reset? If you don't have 6.1 then I would say that you are behind the times.
ChumlyEX:
I've read plenty of posts saying that 6.0 is preferred for many situations, stability among them. I just moved to ppc and haven't flashed yet. Do you recommend a specific cooked version?
Very Similar Problem
Hey everyone, before anyone says anything, i researched this pretty good and havent seen an issue similar to mine and this thread is a bit old so i might start a new one.
My problem is that my at&t Tilt is only reading one of my microsd cards,
they are all sandisk, they range from 64mb, 128, 256, (3 different 1 gig) 2 gig and a 4gig sdhc
the tilt reads the 128 with no problems, the others, in About section it shows expansion slot in use, but under Memory it says not installed. does the same for all except the 128mb
i tried them on another tilt, they all work fine
i tried them on my htc wizard, they work fine (with the exception of the 4g sdhc) because wizard has no support for sdhc.
they are all formatted over and over, tried fat32, and fat16 using windows xp, also tried formatting using good old DOS
Scanned them for visruses, none found
I just got the phone so i dont knonw much about the history of the situation, however it had original ship rom, tried reflashing, upgrading to different at&t roms (3 total) tried custom roms.
anyway if anyone reads this and knows something it would be very helpful
Thanks
I had the same problem. My Tytn stopped seeing storage card. I tried another card, same problem. I've flashed the ROM, same problem again. So I guessed it's not the software problem, it is hardware. I gave my device to repair store and they realized that one pin from card reader slot was broken and unable to read card.
That happen because the card I bought was just a slight wider than it should be, it's card manufacturers problem. And when I was putting that card in the slot, it broken one of the pins. It's unable to see it through slot, you need to open device.
They needed to replace whole slot and that cost me about 250 Euros.
****ty thing..
p.s. If you planing to return your phone to repair store and you still got warranty, be sure that you put back original ROM, if you have flashed now. They will not approve you warranty if you have custom ROM
Feedback changed flex cable
ok so this is intressting, and as i was saying in my previous post, there was no problem with the cards (that im aware of) and they worked on my friends tilt, so after some convincing, i got him to agree to let me take his phone apart this morning and swap up the cables so i dont go and buy a flex cable and it turns out its not it. well i took em both apart (without braking anything!!) and i power it up, and guess what, it did the exact same thing!!!!
so a working flex cable did not solve the problem, i tried my cable in his phone, and it worked, read about 7 different micro sd cards!
unless its the motherboard of the phone, or it has to be some software that a hard reset or oem rom wont fix.
there has to be something, i just wish i could find it!
well yesterday i was drunk and dropped my tilt into a toilet full of piss. I took it out to dry, took battery out and shut it off... i forgot to take out my microsd card though.
My tilt is working somewhat fine but its still clearly water damaged. same problem with all of u.. my phoen wont read the microSD card now and i cant load up android which is bull****. so it must be a hardware problem imo
that sux to hear, well i dont belive mine got wet, not that i know of and no signs of water intrusion on the little white water detectors. I am still trying different sdhc drivers but nothing yet
I solved my problem with a new front board and main ribbon. Swapped them out and everything reads perfectly. I paid around $30 or so on ebay for the part.
nash_vegas said:
I solved my problem with a new front board and main ribbon. Swapped them out and everything reads perfectly. I paid around $30 or so on ebay for the part.
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lucky you!! i did that and it didn't change anything
i even swaped boards, sim card reader, lcd screen, but it has to be something in the main board, i still belive it's a software issue or firmware maybe, something still stuck on that board, i tried it all from hard resets to different roms, spls, radios, reverting back to ship rom, other official roms and nothing. expension slot shows in use, but no storage card with the exception of a couple of different small ones that will show in file explorer, i can install cabs from them but cant really copy anything from device to card or card to device this is so annoying. I even went out and bought a new micro sd and ended up returning it cuz it did the same thing
Final Update
well i was sure that it had something to do with the board of the phone or at least a software or registry issue that was causing this problem, after being 100% sure that it wasnt the flex cable or anything I was lucky to find a motherboard for $26.50 (with shipping) on ebay, so i didn't even hesitate, baught it, swaped the camera (it was the only thing missing) and everything works! i dont know what i'm gona do with the board, but i doubt that im gona give up on figuring out what caused this problem and how to fix it, and i will keep on checking this thread on regular basics
Hi all,
I'm having problems with my HTC diamond, which I hope you don't mind me dumping here for advice.
From one minute to the other, my Diamond suddenly stopped connecting to my provider's network. That is, I cannot make phonecalls, send sms, etc. In the task-bar, there's now an antenna-icon with an exclamation mark. If I remove the SIM card and slide it into another phone, there's no such problems.
Here's what I've already tried to do -- without any results:
1.) call my provider, they said the SIM should be fine, it's registered as active (this makes sense, considering the SIM is working properly in another phone and other SIM cards do not work on the Diamond phone either.)
2.) switch network selection to 'manual'. This keeps giving an error message, saying that the device can't read the network settings ("try again later").
3.) soft reset (red button on the back)
4.) hard reset (volume button + enter button + red button)
5.) hard reset (volume button + enter button + red button) including NAND format.
6.) re-installing the 1.39 ROM (available at HTC.com)
7.) (out of sheer desparation) hard SPL (olinex)
8.) tried to downgrade to the 1.34 ROM (after hard SPL), but failed (froze)
Some possibly interesting information:
1.) I was running TomTom 7.0 navigation software, the back of the Diamond got quite warm (which I know is normal)
2.) The Diamond was hooked up to a universal 5V charger for a car.
3.) I can't get a GPS lock anymore (e.g. with Googlemaps, TomTom)
I'm quite sure that the problem lies within the device, not in the network settings.
Some left-over hypotheses:
1.) I blew up a chip using a universal 5V charger (perhaps it had too high a peak-voltage).
2.) A chip was destroyed by the heat of running TomTom for an hour straight.
But honestly, I don't know very much about this all. Hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance,
Sven
i think this is a "feature" of the Diamond
Mine will randomly loose signal for 30secs - 1 min, then pop back
Mine's failed to pop back for about four days now ;-)
I called HTC. After running through all the check-ups they decided it probably needed repair. They're picking it up today.
i have the exact same problems you listed, im on t mobile but my phone does not pick up any networks. i eventually found out that i needed to plug in my phone to my charger for it to detect a service but i was still getting many dropped calls. did you just call HTC to see if they could fix it? im starting to give up after trying almost everything that you listed, good luck fixing it as i am in the same boat as you
The same problem here...But, my diamond is already in the service... Will wait a few weeks and if you want I will let you know what was the problem. When it happened I was using duffy's rom, I think 2,9 version. Maybe...if you were with the same, might be something wrong there. But one thing is sure...when I get my phone back FOR SURE I will put the original ROM without messing around. I recomend you the same!
Good luck!
Hi all,
I have been using this phone for a while now. Its been working very well till today. Today I tried to install some themes and they ended up occupying my full phone memory. So I did some googling and decided to do a hart reset as I didnt have any valuable software installed.
I went ahead with the Hard reset by clicking 'clear storage' and typing 1234
The phone rebooted and got my memory back and everything except that it not connecting to a network. any network.
I use the 2G version of Touch Diamond in India (GSM). It keeps saying cannot register to network. I've tried different networks with SIM cards which are working well with other mobiles and both manual and automatic network selections.
My stats are
ROM : 1.93.720.2 WWE
Radio : 1.20.OliNex.
What should I be doing.
Flash a new radio see if that sorts ur problem
Thanks Mate,
I'll try that.
Still looking for solutions.
Since a few months I have been experiencing some serious issues with my TyTN II.
After being on for a while, it displays either:
No Service - While the reception in the area is just fine. Switching 'Phone' off and on in the Comm Manager fixes this problem, but then after maybe half an hour the same thing happens
Sim Card Missing - Apparently it can't read the SIM, a soft-reset usually helps in this situation.
I have tried several ROMs and Radios, and I even had the SIM-reader in the phone replaced. The SIM-card itself works fine in several other phones.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any other suggestions as to what I could do? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
tjado said:
Since a few months I have been experiencing some serious issues with my TyTN II.
After being on for a while, it displays either:
No Service - While the reception in the area is just fine. Switching 'Phone' off and on in the Comm Manager fixes this problem, but then after maybe half an hour the same thing happens
Sim Card Missing - Apparently it can't read the SIM, a soft-reset usually helps in this situation.
I have tried several ROMs and Radios, and I even had the SIM-reader in the phone replaced. The SIM-card itself works fine in several other phones.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any other suggestions as to what I could do? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
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Have you tried other sim card on your phone and see what happens? Have you checked the sim card slot and see if there is nothing that's interfering the phone signal?
this is the same thing that is happening to me and there is no obstruction or anything interfering with the sim card connecting to the phone eventually i gave up on looking for a fix. So now i reverted to using my opal So the TyTn II just became my pocket pc now im going to flash wm6.5 jijijijijijjijiji but if somebody finds a fix please post it cause the tytn II was awesome but now its dead.
Same problem here
I'm having the same problem here. Already changing the sim flex and sim card reader, but still no improvement. Is there anything that I can do for this problem?
does anybody ever changing the upper board? is there any result?
same thing hapened to me..
tried sim in another phone and it works, tried another sim in the kaiser and no sim detected??
almost the same problem with my 8925
I have WM6.1 on it. It some time has a good reception, but in several minutes it says The SIM card is missing. Then it (not always, but sometimes) finds SIM itself. strange thing is, that if I flash WM6.5, it has almost no problems but it looses sound and camera doesn't work either...
Any ideas?
Thanks beforehand!
Tried Sim Card Flex replaced.
tjado said:
Since a few months I have been experiencing some serious issues with my TyTN II.
After being on for a while, it displays either:
No Service - While the reception in the area is just fine. Switching 'Phone' off and on in the Comm Manager fixes this problem, but then after maybe half an hour the same thing happens
Sim Card Missing - Apparently it can't read the SIM, a soft-reset usually helps in this situation.
I have tried several ROMs and Radios, and I even had the SIM-reader in the phone replaced. The SIM-card itself works fine in several other phones.
Does anyone have any experience with this? Any other suggestions as to what I could do? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
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> I did exactly just all that, using a Windows Mobile 6.5 Rom.
> After replacing the Sim Card Flex but Sim card still unreadable.
> Currently using back my Wizard, was thinking of changing the Flex Ribbon Cable but skeptical it will work unless someone have tried it.
> Found it on Ebay, check it out.
> http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280555578532&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
> Hope this helps abit
Almost the same with my Kaiser. The only difference, it doesn't show "No Service" message, shows network icon and name, but not available for calling. From time to time becomes available, after few seconds no more! After several hours of such unstable working, drops network at all, with no chanse of restoring it unless switching phone off/on. After that, performing as before.
I have installed a numerous versions of Roms and Radios, ranging from WM6.0 to WM6.5, tried Android, tried almost every combination of band, frequency, hsdpa and data setting with no help.
Is it possible hardware failure?
I did notice a micro switch in the sim card slot when I was tearing down my unit.. perhaps you want to play with the switch to see if other position may solve your issue.
same issue here...
tried everything...
Dear All,
Have you tried to connect an GSM external antenna to check if it improves the reception ?
Regards,
Nino
Sorry for my english.
I found this problem too.( no service)
My solution is
1. I format rom by use MTTY tool.
(1. How to check and repair bad block
a). Please make sure that you are SuperCID and you understand the importance of hard spl as this maybe a dangerious operation for you.
b). Download Mtty.exe file in the attachment below and save it to your computer.
c). Open connection setting of your activesync or WMDC on your PC and disable "Allow USB connection".
d). Put your divice into Bootloader mode and connect to your PC via USB
e). Run Mtty.exe from your PC
f). Selec "USB" in port box and then click OK
g). Press Enter once or twice to let the screen dispay "USB>" or "CMD>"
h). Type "info 8" to check if your device has bad blocks. And if there are any,
i). Type "task 2a" to fix the bad blocks.
2. Flash Rom again.
3. Now Signal come.
mtty fix
has anyone tried this? I'm having the same problem where my phone says no service and sim card missing, but i'm afraid to be the first to try this mtty fix as i've never used it before. Can someone confirm that it will fix this problem? Thanks to the guy that put it up ^
aekapolm said:
...My solution is....
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master aekapolm...
i will try your solution!
aekapolm said:
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h). Type "info 8" to check if your device has bad blocks. And if there are any,
i). Type "task 2a" to fix the bad blocks...
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after "info 8" my kaiser formatted... and i can not type "task 2a" ??????
i'm planning to change the flex cable cause mine has a cut in the middle and need to change the lcd due to crack
It's not the SIM card or the switch. That switch you're referring to will shut the phone off in the event that the SIM door is opened.
As for the "no service" issue, I understand that the HSPDA/3G radio part of the phone tends to go bad, especially with certain radio SPLs'. Once it's gone, it's gone for good. The only way to restore functionality is to replace the lower board which contains the radio, which includes the NAND (all your precious data).
I have seen some success with people using the 1.70 series of radio versions but it does not restore 3G/HSPDA, only 2G is functional, and the way networks are changing over to 4G, I don't see much of a future for 2G devices.
My advice... Find a replacement Kaiser with a cracked screen or other problem that doesn't involve the lower board and swap parts.
Out of curiosity, and asking for a mod to help on this:
This post is teaching newbies to KILL their phones, why was this thread revived?
Any newcomer please DON`T DO THE STEPS BELOW!! It will kill your phone.
aekapolm said:
Sorry for my english.
I found this problem too.( no service)
My solution is
1. I format rom by use MTTY tool.
(1. How to check and repair bad block
a). Please make sure that you are SuperCID and you understand the importance of hard spl as this maybe a dangerious operation for you.
b). Download Mtty.exe file in the attachment below and save it to your computer.
c). Open connection setting of your activesync or WMDC on your PC and disable "Allow USB connection".
d). Put your divice into Bootloader mode and connect to your PC via USB
e). Run Mtty.exe from your PC
f). Selec "USB" in port box and then click OK
g). Press Enter once or twice to let the screen dispay "USB>" or "CMD>"
h). Type "info 8" to check if your device has bad blocks. And if there are any,
i). Type "task 2a" to fix the bad blocks.
2. Flash Rom again.
3. Now Signal come.
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