This is definitely weird, and I'm not sure if it's linked to FroYo or what, but it actually looks like a hardware issue.
I can't post a picture of the problem because of the spam filter, but I'll give a description.
I'm not sure if this happened when I updated to FroYo today, but I noticed it because the default background color of the FroYo messaging app is white. When I rotate my Nexus One into landscape mode, in the area where the notification bar would be when the N1 is in portrait, is darkened area of pixels. It's very noticeable when there's a white background color, but I can see it as long as it's not black.
It's only in the area where the notification bar would be if the phone were upright. It's almost like burn-in you'd get on an old TV. I took a screenshot of the phone's display, and it does not show up, so it's definitely something on the hardware side.
Am I screwed? I'm not sure what to do here. My phone is rooted, so doesn't that void my hardware warranty as well? This is very upsetting considering the phone is only a little over a month old, and I've taken extremely good care of it.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me... I'll post a screenshot if an Admin can enable my link-posting.
that would be burn in
malicious85 said:
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What? I've never heard of a Nexus One, or any phone for that matter, suffering from burn-in...
ExodusC said:
What? I've never heard of a Nexus One, or any phone for that matter, suffering from burn-in...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673513
Well, that being said, I feel better knowing I'm not the only one. I'm sure the problem is exacerbated by having the N1 dock and using it.
HTC apparently replaces these if the burn-in gets bad.
So, is my hardware warranty void due to rooting or not? I have heard from some yes, from others no. I'm just curious.
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Hello guys I never noticed it but for some time I noticed something strange on the screen of my galaxy S. Putting it in landscape in the upper left corner i see the notification bar as if it's printed on the screen. I don't post any screen because in these you can't see what you see on the screen phone and that's what worries me
Sorry for my english
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Screen burn in. Get launcherpro or a new launcher that can turn off notification bar
single finger pecked on a galaxy s
Yes but the problem persists. Is it a display problem then? How can i fix it?
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Well since the picture is already burned in to your screen, the only way to fix it is to change the display. If you haven't opened the phone etc. then you can just take it to a service centre. I'm quite sure that burn in is covered under the warranty, so you won't have to pay anything.
You could first try to take the battery out for a couple of hours and see if it helps.
If that doesn't work, you can try to somehow put a bright white on the whole screen on the phone and keep it about an hour.
If none of those solutions work, just take it to a service centre.
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Well since the picture is already burned in to your screen, the only way to fix it is to change the display. If you haven't opened the phone etc. then you can just take it to a service centre. I'm quite sure that burn in is covered under the warranty, so you won't have to pay anything.
You could first try to take the battery out for a couple of hours and see if it helps.
If that doesn't work, you can try to somehow put a bright white on the whole screen on the phone and keep it about an hour.
If none of those solutions work, just take it to a service centre.
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But with a new display could i have the same problem? If yes i won't change it.
Thanks very much.
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But with a new display could i have the same problem? If yes i won't change it.
Thanks very much.
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Well yes, you've had the problem once so you could have it again. But warranties are there to ensure that you have a product that functions as expected. If Samsung are willing replace the item at no charge under warranty then it's obvious this is not the expected behaviour. Based on that logic not only is it your right to get a replacement, Samsung aren't really expecting it to happen again, otherwise burn in would be expected behaviour and not covered under warranty. Anyway my point, although so far, poorly made, is that it's not expected to happen again. Well that and so few other people have the same problem, it's extremely unlikely that it will happen again.
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Well yes, you've had the problem once so you could have it again. But warranties are there to ensure that you have a product that functions as expected. If Samsung are willing replace the item at no charge under warranty then it's obvious this is not the expected behaviour. Based on that logic not only is it your right to get a replacement, Samsung aren't really expecting it to happen again, otherwise burn in would be expected behaviour and not covered under warranty. Anyway my point, although so far, poorly made, is that it's not expected to happen again. Well that and so few other people have the same problem, it's extremely unlikely that it will happen again.
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Exactly. Burn in is probably quite rare, especially in LED and LCD screens. I was actually surprised when I read your post. Old CRT screens used to get burn in quite often if one screen was left on for a long time. But since SGS has an AMOLED screen, the chances of a burn in happening again any time soon is quite slim.
You can try one of them burn in repair videos that just keep flashing colours that they use to unstuck pixels on lcd screens. You can get the video from youtube or anyplace you can and set media player to loop for a few hours. It might fix burn in.
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ickyboo said:
You can try one of them burn in repair videos that just keep flashing colours that they use to unstuck pixels on lcd screens. You can get the video from youtube or anyplace you can and set media player to loop for a few hours. It might fix burn in.
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Actually that wouldn't work, since the screen is AMOLED. There isn't any crystals that get stuck in one position. In LCD screens the pixels are tiny crystals that move in a way that a color is reflected to the screen. Sometimes these crystals get stuck in one position and so they show one color constantly. AMOLED screens have tiny LEDs that provide the colors to the screen. These can't get stuck, but they do wear out or burn out which leads to the colors not being produced correctly, and for that reason it'll look like a picture is stuck on the screen. That's something you probably can't do anything about.
Ok i'll see what to do.
Thanks to all!
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I have a pixel stuck on blue. It shows on red, white, and grey backgrounds. I thought it was dead but when looking at it with a magnifying glass its obviously blue. Its gone on blue, green, and black backgrounds.
I tried the dead pixel detect and fix app from the market but dont want to let it run for 20 minutes as its designed for LCDs not AMOLEDs.
What can I do?
Also, can changing your DPI increase the likelihood of dead/stuck pixels? Had no screen problems until I ran 240 DPI for a day.
So I guess OLEDs dont really get stuck pixels which means its most likely broken. How freaking lame considering Ive had this Note for barely over a week. There is some serious QA issues with these screens.
In the same situation but it is a small cluster of red pixels to the left side of screen when there is a grey back round and low light settings.
Sadly Samsung will continue this
see no evil hear no evil speak no evil ethos in regards to their after sales screen support
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So I guess OLEDs dont really get stuck pixels which means its most likely broken. How freaking lame considering Ive had this Note for barely over a week. There is some serious QA issues with these screens.
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I had 3 notes in the row all with pixel problems, unfortunately none of the apps help.
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I have a pixel stuck on blue. It shows on red, white, and grey backgrounds. I thought it was dead but when looking at it with a magnifying glass its obviously blue. Its gone on blue, green, and black backgrounds.
I tried the dead pixel detect and fix app from the market but dont want to let it run for 20 minutes as its designed for LCDs not AMOLEDs.
What can I do?
Also, can changing your DPI increase the likelihood of dead/stuck pixels? Had no screen problems until I ran 240 DPI for a day.
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That's hocum thinking. It only means that your problem was there from day one but not apparent on the original DPI. =)
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That's hocum thinking. It only means that your problem was there from day one but not apparent on the original DPI. =)
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Problem wasnt there from day 1...
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Problem wasnt there from day 1...
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My point still remains that DPI has no affect on whether a dead pixel develops or not. THere is no "stress" associated with one DPI over the other. I hope that's clear.
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My point still remains that DPI has no affect on whether a dead pixel develops or not. THere is no "stress" associated with one DPI over the other. I hope that's clear.
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Not clear to me when you supply no facts.
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Not clear to me when you supply no facts.
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Yet you make a claim with no factual support yourself.
If this was truly the case, you'd see much more instances of people coming here complaining that the change of DPI has caused stuck pixels on their screen.
If you still want to believe that the change of DPI might have something to do with it, then operate on that hypothesis. Change the DPI to 160 and leave it at that for a day. See if that will help. If your hypothesis is correct, it'll go away, or you get another dead pixel.
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Yet you make a claim with no factual support yourself.
If this was truly the case, you'd see much more instances of people coming here complaining that the change of DPI has caused stuck pixels on their screen.
If you still want to believe that the change of DPI might have something to do with it, then operate on that hypothesis. Change the DPI to 160 and leave it at that for a day. See if that will help. If your hypothesis is correct, it'll go away, or you get another dead pixel.
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Um I made no claim..I made a thread asking questions. Anyways I was going to apologize, I'm just $2,100 in on three Notes now and all have different screen quirks. I want to love the device so badly but 5 days into ownership just sucks.
You paid 2100 for three phones? Why not use a credit card with insurance? Thats crazy. Are you able to return them?
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You paid 2100 for three phones? Why not use a credit card with insurance? Thats crazy. Are you able to return them?
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Whats crazy is you assume they are all for me.
I would return them if you could. I understand your frustration. $2100 is a lot of dough, even if it's not all for you.
Return them and try a different vendor. This will increase your odds of getting it from a different assembly line with hopefully better quality control.
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I would return them if you could. I understand your frustration. $2100 is a lot of dough, even if it's not all for you.
Return them and try a different vendor. This will increase your odds of getting it from a different assembly line with hopefully better quality control.
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All outside return period.
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All outside return period.
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Dont know what to tell you, except sorry really. Try contacting Samsung USA. They are not legally obligated to help you but if you get the right rep they will accept it.
DPI has NOTHING to do with pixel load, the only things that are affected (hardware-wise):
.)GPU
.)CPU
simply speaking:
the display controller gets the info what to display from the GPU, it doesnt even recognize a difference in DPI, as it represents not the "real" hardware spec "DPI", it represents a value which tells the OS which iconsize (ie. 265x265pix) it should draw on the screen. this under respect of the "real" hardware DPI of the screen (318x307) determines how it looks, it changes nothing physically (on pixel level)!
I know it sounds confusing, but think a little about it...
Anyway, I can assure anyone that different "DPI" settings (the hardware DPI value cannot be "set", it has to be manufactured this way) do nothing to your hardware!
Another thing mentioned by me above (I repeat it because its important): The real hardware DPI of our screen is 318x307 and NOT 320 as almost everyone thinks! Due to the irregular size of subpixels and subpixel arrays the horizontal and vertical DPI are almost never exactly the same!
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one thing on different DPI settings IS interessting, but is also logical due to different maths to calculate the above calculation:
320 DPI setting has much more "banding" in some apps then 240 DPI, for example in "brilliant quote": with 320 it has medium banding in the background, with 240 almost no banding visible!
think i should post this in the corresponding screen threads too...
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Whats crazy is you assume they are all for me.
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Well maybe clarify. Seriously. Why not pay with a card if you bought 3? Peace of mind. If mine breaks, gets stolen it is replaced for free.
Why wouldn't you do that?
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Well maybe clarify. Seriously. Why not pay with a card if you bought 3? Peace of mind. If mine breaks, gets stolen it is replaced for free.
Why wouldn't you do that?
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I did pay with a card. Just a hassle when you deal with other things that make a stupid phone less of a priority. They would not honor an exchange until I threatened to call MasterCard. Seriously though I am just rolling the dice on a device with another screen issue. There is something wrong with every single one Ive seen.
Thanks for that info TML. Been running 240 dpi either way. I run 2560x1600 on my desktop so it feels more natural to me
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Hey All,
Any one having this problem, did any one try factory resetting the handset twice or thrice when this problem was persisting?
Even I faced a similar problem. I bought my new GT-N7000 on 5 June'12 & spotted a dot on 10th june.
I've tried different application but none worked. Then I tried factory resetting my Note, did it twice which actually did not cure it completely but the dot decreased in size. Now, I'll wait for some time to see if gets disappeared automatically after some time....
Hi,
Could anyone be kind enough to show why AMOLED operates differently to LCD thus making conventional stuck pixel fix unusable?
Thanks.
Hello, I have seen that my htc one screen have a light leak on the op of the screen, I thought that is a problem of my HTC One, but I have seen in internet that many Ones have this problem, so Can you see that your one have this problem?
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PD: It is visible only in light colors or white.
Thanks and sorry for my english.
According to you (and maybe the other ONE user) I think I'm lucky because my screen doesn't have this issue..
but I got two deadpixels in less then a month since I bought it
it's called backlight bleeding, i have that too, there is nothing you can do about it..
I have spoken with HTC Chat and they say me that I can send the One to the SAT, but I am worried because I have seen another One in a shop of my city which has the same problem.
Thanks
Anyone has this problem too?
Idon't have this issue. Good luck
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I have that too, it looks the same, even the same pattern (two gaps where the sensors and camera is).
But to be honest, it is not noticeable at all, only when looking at bright colors from a high angle. Maybe the level of bleed varies from unit to unit, and if it's bothering you very much then RMA it.
Don't get me wrong, I am very picky about this kind of stuff, If I found a single badpixel I would go bonkers over it. However looking at what kind of issues people are having with their Ones I wouldn't complain at something like this.
Reported here as well, but my One is fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2366154
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I thought that was normal..
I have it too
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I'm the OP of the linked thread. Wanted to return it, but my shop didn't think it was a good enough reason for an exchange.
Here's a recent pic of my right side attached.
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I'm the OP of the linked thread. Wanted to return it, but my shop didn't think it was a good enough reason for an exchange.
Here's a recent pic of my right side attached.
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You are looking at a shallow angle at the edge of the screen.... do you see this when you look at the screen straight on..... if not then there's no problem.
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You are looking at a shallow angle at the edge of the screen.... do you see this when you look at the screen straight on..... if not then there's no problem.
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Not really, but compared to the other side, it is quite bad!
So I needed to get a replacement phone because my original HTC one had purple and pink hues at night. So I got the new phone and it has HTC sense 6 on it and the battery is better and everything but I noticed something was off. When I compared my old phone and new phone, the screens were really different when it came to whites and blues. Websurfing and facebook was a lot duller, washed out and had a yellow tint on it. It was not horribly significant but I definitely noticed it and was wondering if this was a problem with the screen and phone itself or was this just something that was the case with sense 6 (which I apparently can't get on my old HTC one for some reason). Otherwise I will have to ask for another replacement. Any help would be REALLY appreciated.
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So I needed to get a replacement phone because my original HTC one had purple and pink hues at night. So I got the new phone and it has HTC sense 6 on it and the battery is better and everything but I noticed something was off. When I compared my old phone and new phone, the screens were really different when it came to whites and blues. Websurfing and facebook was a lot duller, washed out and had a yellow tint on it. It was not horribly significant but I definitely noticed it and was wondering if this was a problem with the screen and phone itself or was this just something that was the case with sense 6 (which I apparently can't get on my old HTC one for some reason). Otherwise I will have to ask for another replacement. Any help would be REALLY appreciated.
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this is normal and this was already discussed many times here. There are slight color differences between some display assembly used on the M7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202869
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this is normal and this was already discussed many times here. There are slight color differences between some display assembly used on the M7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202869
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Ya I have heard about the different screens used in assembly before actually. The link you sent me has a pretty great and detailed analysis of it but some of it kind of goes over my head lol. So I am guessing there is nothing I can do to change that or request a particular type of unit? Also my new phone makes a strange popping noise when on speaker phone as well which did not happen before. I assume that is not normal?
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Ya I have heard about the different screens used in assembly before actually. The link you sent me has a pretty great and detailed analysis of it but some of it kind of goes over my head lol. So I am guessing there is nothing I can do to change that or request a particular type of unit? Also my new phone makes a strange popping noise when on speaker phone as well which did not happen before. I assume that is not normal?
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the popping sound is not normal. try to return the phone
This is my first AMOLED device, and probably my last. I got my nexus 6 a few weeks ago and have been using it moderately. Screen brightness never went above 50%. I already have a very noticeable burn on the bottom bar. Unfortunately have no warranty so I cant return it. Very disappointed. Didnt expect to find such a problem on such a great device.Is there a way to fix it? How bad can this get in the future? I would appreciate someone with such an experience to give me some advice.
If you don't mind and still have warranty, send it to Motorola.
What I got was just like new in a retail box.
I described my experience including video at the end of the page here
http://androidforums.com/threads/screen-burn-in.883020/page-5
I noticed it the first time I looked (with gray screen) which was after I had the phone about a month. I've now had the phone 6+ months and situation is the same...Only noticeable when I look carefully with the right background. So my concern level now is much less than when I first noticed it.
I don't bother with the app you set up to age/burn your nav bar at full brightness for awhile to even things out. I do occasionally run chrome inverted in order to give a crude dark theme (good for battery) which has the extra benefit of aging/burning the nav bar area that doesn't usually age...helps to even things out
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If you don't mind and still have warranty, send it to Motorola.
What I got was just like new in a retail box.
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I dont have warranty so thats out of the option, but if changing the screen is affordable I might consider that on a later date.
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I described my experience including video at the end of the page here
http://androidforums.com/threads/screen-burn-in.883020/page-5
I noticed it the first time I looked (with gray screen) which was after I had the phone about a month. I've now had the phone 6+ months and situation is the same...Only noticeable when I look carefully with the right background. So my concern level now is much less than when I first noticed it.
I don't bother with the app that burns your screen on purpose to even things. I do occasionally run chrome inverted to give a quasi dark appearance (good for battery) which has the extra benefit in the nav bar area that doesn't usually age...helps to even things out
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Well as long as the current quality doesnt deteriorate, I could live with it. But considering the amount of burn in just one month, Im skeptical about it in the long run.
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I dont have warranty so thats out of the option, but if changing the screen is affordable I might consider that on a later date.
Well as long as the current quality doesnt deteriorate, I could live with it. But considering the amount of burn in just one month, Im skeptical about it in the long run.
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I have had my device for over a year and no burn in whats so ever. Not even a little bit. Makes me wonder what your moderate use is.
So the device is used, if you've got no warranty?
@JonesL: He likely did buy used. The warranty only applies to the original purchaser, thus no warranty.
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@JonesL: He likely did buy used. The warranty only applies to the original purchaser, thus no warranty.
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They didn't require me any proof for the replacement.
Now Motorola is a part of Lenovo, so not sure.
I'm sure. The fact Motorola is owned by Lenovo is just as irrelevant now as when they were owned by Google. The piece of paper that spells out the warranty terms and conditions is what applies here, and that warranty does not transfer with the device when the device is sold to a second user by the first. If they processed a replacement for you, that was kind of them.
I bought mine new the month it came out and mine has burn also.. I have the 6p,note5,v10, but I swap out this phone for the 6p every now and then.. Point being it's not used much and still has burn in
All amoled screens should be used wisely, because over time the parties held most heated they become prone to yellow, while the share held duller, like the navbar and statusbar, will stay with the most "cool colors".
The solution is simple: use the EXTENDED DESKTOP mode SINCE THE FIRST DAY (present in almost all the custom rom).
In this way, in the time, the display deteriorates evenly , and no one pays attention!
Maybe after one year or two we have to change a bit the colors and make them cooler.
sad to say but i also have the burn in now.. got my shamu last october and its noticeable when you flash a rom and during initial set up where whites are pretty present and the gray part on the nav bar and status bar is so obvious with some hints on the clock, wifi symbols and signal and on the navbar some back home and recents button shadows present... too bad..
Now it is too late .... But if it is still under warranty should replace you display...
If with new display follow the advice since day one, you never have a problem!
Sorry for my english.....