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Destinator crashes if phone is ON !

Hi,
I`m facing this weird situation: Destinator (7.0.0.588.11) does not load if phone is on, after the splash screen it just closes (leaving a bar near the battery icon).
I'm using Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700 (radio 1.65.14.06) but this problem also happened before with OEM 6.0 ROM.
If I turn phone off, Destinator loads fine.... It worked for weeks, but now I just cannot use Destinator...
Any clues ?

I have a similar problem with Garmin Mobile XT
It doesn't load if GPRS/EDGE is configured
try just removing any GPRS/EDGE connection and loading it
if it works, you have the same problem as me
but I didn't find any solution yet

Yes, runs ok with gsm off, even if I reinstall it would not run with phone on....

I'm having the same issues, but turning the phone off solves as you mentioned. At least there is some solution!

Do you guys think a radio downgrade would solve this issue ?

dunha said:
Do you guys think a radio downgrade would solve this issue ?
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hm, that's a good idea
please let us know if you try that and it works

IGO my way 2006
It`s also happening with iGO my way plus 2006. Any ideas ?

Changed ROM but still crashing...
I'm now using L26 V9 but the problem persists. I think Destinator freezes when loading GPS, because yellow led does not blink at this time.
If I turn phone off, Destinator works fine...Any ideas ?

I just found the solution: Just delete SMSModule.dll in DestinatorApps/Destinator and it should work.

jiannist said:
I just found the solution: Just delete SMSModule.dll in DestinatorApps/Destinator and it should work.
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u are the reason that iam using destinator7 to my xperia phone
thanks man
jesus love u !

Destinator PN and AT&T Tilt
I have to say that I had been struggling with this program shutting down on my Tilt since 9/09, after having worked for more than a year. I resorted to using an old handheld device to navigate to new destinations while driving, something I do regularly as a social worker. And finally today, after doing much searching on the Internet and attempting different fixes, it appears the solution of deleting sms file is the answer. Thank you very much.

jiannist said:
I just found the solution: Just delete SMSModule.dll in DestinatorApps/Destinator and it should work.
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Seriously, marry me
I've given up using Destinator for months because I couldn't figure out what the hell was wrong and I installed iGo instead (which I don't like much).
THANKS MAN!!!

jiannist said:
I just found the solution: Just delete SMSModule.dll in DestinatorApps/Destinator and it should work.
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Seriously, marry her^^^
and i'll be the best man...
Thank you dude. As far as i am concerned. you rule the universe!!!

Really good man! Do we know why does that happens? I just like to be informed indeapth.

How Can I get GPS to work on my Tilt???

Ever since I flashed Dutty's diamond v9 GPS has been useless.
I've tried HTC GPS Tool and GPS test.....but they're not helping me.
GPS won't work in either google maps or Live Search.

klrob33 said:
Ever since I flashed Dutty's diamond v9 GPS has been useless.
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I don't believe Dutty Made it past v1 on the Diamond, LEO made a V9
klrob33 said:
I've tried HTC GPS Tool and GPS test.....but they're not helping me.
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How long are you waiting? Sometimes it takes 30 minutes for me to get a fix. But if I start one of those programs then drive home, I get a fix faster.
klrob33 said:
GPS won't work in either google maps or Live Search.
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Yeah, wait for it to get a lock in the other test programs, before trying to use the full blown Nav softwares.

Yeah. My mistake it's V1.
The most I've waited is 10/15 minutes. But It's really not even worth it for me to do that since that nullifies the convenience of having a phone with GPS.
Plus, how can I be sure that my phone has a GPS lock?

satellites will turn green if you are using htc_gps_tool
In addition, you should download the latest updates with quickgps as well before running those tools. I usually have to download quickgps, open gps tool with the appropriate settings, open tomtom then close tomtom, download quickgps again, open gps tool with appropriate settings again, then open tomtom to get a fix less than 5 seconds on a cold start. I got it down to a T.

redbandana said:
satellites will turn green if you are using htc_gps_tool
In addition, you should download the latest updates with quickgps as well before running those tools. I usually have to download quickgps, open gps tool with the appropriate settings, open tomtom then close tomtom, download quickgps again, open gps tool with appropriate settings again, then open tomtom to get a fix less than 5 seconds on a cold start. I got it down to a T.
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What's the difference between cold, warm, and hot start in GPS Tool?

klrob33 said:
What's the difference between cold, warm, and hot start in GPS Tool?
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no idea but I always start mine with com4 baud 4800 hot start

oh yeah forgot to tell you. If you are using gps tool do not hit the x button before you open your gps software because the program closes rather than minimizes, which defeats the purpose of using it to begin with.

I tried all those things.
I let GPS Tool run for about an hour and still never got a fix. Thanks for your help though.
If I go back to 6.0 would it work again?

let it run for a few minutes then open your gps software without closing gps tool. I don't think I can get a fix either without gps software being open.

klrob33 said:
I tried all those things.
I let GPS Tool run for about an hour and still never got a fix. Thanks for your help though.
If I go back to 6.0 would it work again?
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Bear in mind, GPS is an acronym for "Global positioning satellite" Key word there being SATELLITE, are you even going out side to try to get a signal? See, if you're in a big building, full of lead paint, there's no way to get a signal through that, try doing it again outside, in an open field, on a sunny day, and see if you have a different result.

Kaze0110 said:
Bear in mind, GPS is an acronym for "Global positioning satellite" Key word there being SATELLITE, are you even going out side to try to get a signal? See, if you're in a big building, full of lead paint, there's no way to get a signal through that, try doing it again outside, in an open field, on a sunny day, and see if you have a different result.
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Yeah. I'm not stupid. I know how it works.
If I can't get a fix sitting in my car then there's really no point. I only use it for driving directions.
This may end making me switch to iPhone 3G because I'm getting sick of HTC. I love the customization but I just need a phone that works. I pay too much money for this. This is getting ridiculous.

klrob33 said:
Yeah. I'm not stupid. I know how it works.
If I can't get a fix sitting in my car then there's really no point. I only use it for driving directions.
This may end making me switch to iPhone 3G because I'm getting sick of HTC. I love the customization but I just need a phone that works. I pay too much money for this. This is getting ridiculous.
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I really don't understand why you cannot get a fix using 6.1 roms. I offered all the advice I could give you. You said you use google maps, correct? If I open google maps on my device without gps being on It can still read my current position. This is just extremely odd...

klrob33 said:
Yeah. I'm not stupid. I know how it works.
If I can't get a fix sitting in my car then there's really no point. I only use it for driving directions.
This may end making me switch to iPhone 3G because I'm getting sick of HTC. I love the customization but I just need a phone that works. I pay too much money for this. This is getting ridiculous.
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Why are you blaming HTC for this? You're not running an HTC ROM or even an AT&T ROM, you're running a ROM cooked up by somebody else and then blaming the manufacturer of the hardware for it. There are lot's of people with fully functional GPS on the Tilt.
You can go to the iPhone if you want, but keep in mind that there aren't any programs yet for the iPhone that give you turn by turn directions. You might have to wait a while for that brand spankin new iPhone to be able to use its GPS.

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This may end making me switch to iPhone 3G because I'm getting sick of HTC. I love the customization but I just need a phone that works. I pay too much money for this. This is getting ridiculous.
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I have a TILT - You can see the ROM I am running in my signature line. I get a fix in less than a minute and use the TOMTOM ALL the time.
The ONLY problem I have on this ROM is that I have to push the power button twice to get the screen to come on. Other than that - EVERYTHING else works a treat.
Get the iphone if you want - but there are MANY things that it cannot do that you may miss.
Bill

klrob33 said:
Ever since I flashed Dutty's diamond v9 GPS has been useless.
I've tried HTC GPS Tool and GPS test.....but they're not helping me.
GPS won't work in either google maps or Live Search.
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What redio version are you using?
I've been running Dutty's Diamond V1 for about a week now and the GPS works for me. Depending on the radio your using it may take several minutes to get a GPS fix, but it does work for me and others.
I just flashed Radio 1.65.24.36 ( found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398177 ) and it takes several minutes to get a fix the first time after a soft reset, but after that it get a fix very fast.
Good luck... Let us know how it works our for you.

GPS Question

I know this has been asked before but im getting frustrated i cant get it to work >.<
I bought the tytn II for the gps mainly and for mine not to work its just annoying,
Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
My GPS does not lock at all no matter if i leave it over night with the power plugged in, when the using gps test program it doesnt lock it always says "GPS Starting UP" the lights near the speaker flash from green and then to the orange and red on either side. So the gps is turning on but it will never lock.
Has anyone got anything, anything at all i can try? Or will i have to wait for HTC to make a fix for it?
If you can help me id be extremly happy =D
Many Thanks,
Kyon

Might want to try "GPS Tuner:" http://www.gpstuner.com/download/index.html. It shows the number of satellites received and strength. COM 4 is also the magic number to set for the phone's GPS to operate.
I usually activate it whenever I think a satellite mapping program like Garmin XT or Google Earth isn't working only to find I got weak signals or too few.
Mack

Awsome ill give it a try and then see what happens and report back =]
Thanks tho,

Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,

All sorts but not the right sort
Kyon147 said:
Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
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Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.

You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
Kyon147 said:
Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,
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Teej53214 said:
You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
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I have tried outside for over a hour and got nothing >.< I'm at the point thinking it might just be my kaiser and go out and buy another lol but so many people have the same issue i also think it may not be my kaiser. Im just lost on what to try lol.
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Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.
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Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]

"So the gps is turning on but it will never lock."
sorry, what u mean "never lock"? ...I try Google Earth mobile ... some time can see detected 6 satellites sometime 2 ... the figure keep up & down .... is that mean "never lock"??

Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.

yeah looks that way, i bought it second hand and i think it may of been dropped and damaged before i bought it
When using GPS test the sateillites show up sometimes they dont have any signal but they show up for a couple seconds then dissapear >.< so i dont know where i stand.
Think ill just buy a brand new one and see where that takes me lol but i wont give up just yet may opent he phone up and see for a lose connection.
Thanks,
P.s Keep the ideas coming guys =] more the merrier X3

kilrah said:
Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.
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oic. .....

Mine works perfectly from the window sill but it's a big window!
Kyon147 said:
Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]
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The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.

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The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.
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Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works >.< lol
Thanks for the help =]

Kyon147 said:
Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works
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I suggest that loading the basic GPS software (such as TomTom 6.032 or Google Maps) and testing it is the first thing you do after the post ROM flash hard reset. That way you can be sure that nothing else is interfering with the GPS functionality. If it still doesn't work then as already mentioned there's probably a hardware issue. If you have a compatible HTC GPS antenna, plugging that into the socket near the camera cover, while not necessary, may help. Let us know what happens.

Garmin GPS

After i install the Garmin GPS, device cannot search the satelite? it is my device or ROM cause this problem? Because it work before i flash the new ROM.
And one problem is my internet explorer can display the websites toolbar but cannot click or select it? Do i need to update any other ROM or Component?

which ROM?

5.07.707.2 WWE
This ROM is from Official HTC Websites.

you might want to START READING HERE if you havent yet.

thanks bro

i m using Garmin GPS as well, and it just work fine for me after i flashed the roms, at first after i flashed it, same problem occur, but after when i checked and look into detail, actually it's working, just the signal strength icon in the Garmin GPS isn't increasing and always remains in the red signal, maybe you can check out with it first after updating ur QuickGPS and try it at the outdoor... hope this helps...

Just want to share my Garmin in HTC TP. Having trouble to begin with after upgrade my device from TyTN II
Use the radio 1.12.25.19
Open the Garmin and change the Remote GPS to GPS Intermediate Driver. This solved the missing signal bars on the main screen problem.
On the main screen just click the signal bars - then click the "Disable" button
Click the "GPS Intermediate Driver" and then click "Enable" button.
Enable Advance GPS
Hope helps - just my 2 cents

radio after rom
i dont know if this pertains to you, but your talking about flashing a rom and gps not working afterward, so it might. Every time i flash a new rom my gps stops working. As soon as i reflash the same radio i already had, everything kicks back in and works just fine. I dont know if it actually helps to reflash the radio every time you flash a rom but it seems to help.

brahmanto said:
Just want to share my Garmin in HTC TP. Having trouble to begin with after upgrade my device from TyTN II
Use the radio 1.12.25.19
Open the Garmin and change the Remote GPS to GPS Intermediate Driver. This solved the missing signal bars on the main screen problem.
On the main screen just click the signal bars - then click the "Disable" button
Click the "GPS Intermediate Driver" and then click "Enable" button.
Enable Advance GPS
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OMG. brahmanto !! u jus fixed my Garmin missing signal bars problems which has been with my for months!! I love you man !! Thanks a lot !!

Hypes420 said:
i dont know if this pertains to you, but your talking about flashing a rom and gps not working afterward, so it might. Every time i flash a new rom my gps stops working. As soon as i reflash the same radio i already had, everything kicks back in and works just fine. I dont know if it actually helps to reflash the radio every time you flash a rom but it seems to help.
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After flashing radio you should check whether in Settings/System/External GPS/Access is checked "Manage GPS automatically". If not, check it.

There's a hotfix for this in HTC Website.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570

There's a hotfix for this in HTC Website.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570

Gps Problem

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Well, after flashing like 150 roms so far, today i had this mysterious problem.
After flashing NRG's 6.5 ( with the new manilla rom ), i flashed into his new one, the 06/20, and then i flashed to duttys 3.9.
Now my gps simply wont work, i mean all the programs find it, but i get no signal whatsoever, not even one single satellite. What do you guys recommend to do ?
I will flash a stock rom now and see if that fixes anything.
PS : Flashing stock rom didnt do nothing.
Please someone help

GPS Problem
Hi
Try Start, settings, connections, connections, advanced, Select networks and set correct values in both dialogues!

What applicatons are you using for GPS?
I dont think the connection settings are completely relevant but make sure not in flight mode and that if you have entered SIM PIN that phone module is functioning, which I guess could be linked back to the operator settings, but GPS should still work regardless.
The stock settings for hardware should not need changing aa far as GPS is concerned.

If the above isn't any help, try hard reseting a few times (take out your storage card first though) as it could be due to some user customisation thing

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Hi
Try Start, settings, connections, connections, advanced, Select networks and set correct values in both dialogues!
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What does this has to do with my GPS ?
homer285 said:
What applicatons are you using for GPS?
I dont think the connection settings are completely relevant but make sure not in flight mode and that if you have a SIM PIN that phone module is functioning, which I guess could be linked back to the operator settings, but GPS should still work regardless.
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Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.

sedde said:
What does this has to do with my GPS ?
Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.
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Have you tried in igo8 goto the GPS settings, untick the box then let igo8 find the GPS by using the option?
Oh and we're assuming you have hardreset after flashing?

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Have you tried in igo8 goto the GPS settings, untick the box then let igo8 find the GPS by using the option?
Oh and we're assuming you have hardreset after flashing?
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Ofc i did hard reset it, more than 2-3 times, and yes i have chosed to find gps automatically. Nothing does the trick, i think the module is broken.

First things first before checking it out with sofware like iGO
Have you tried the 'HTC GPS tool' ?
Remember if you just flashed then you do a complete coldboot of the GPS module.
So go outside and wait up till 10 minutes with the gps tool --> 'open port'
Let us know how that goes!

I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??

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I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??
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You dont, yes ofc i did.
I have 2 htc hd's infront of me now, and one is picking sat's in 10 seconds and the other wont find even one.

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I don't main to sound patronising but have you downloaded latest info using QuickGPS??
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Not to say that it wont work but I dont use that application and always get a pretty quick fix, 30-60 secs, even inside my house.
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You dont, yes ofc i did.
I have 2 htc hd's infront of me now, and one is picking sat's in 10 seconds and the other wont find even one.
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Damn that doesnt sound good, Id try everything from, flashing the ROM through RUU mode without SD inserted, reflash SPL and phone module, clean and format SD card. Also copy the iGO8 folder from the working device to the other SD card and run the .exe directly from location, just to be certain. Good luck.

Was a long shot, just checking all bases

It isnt a long shot

Ok now i am facing another problem.
How can i go back to 1.14 stock rom ? I just flashed it and i get the green screen..
PS : Nevermind i will restock the spl and use uspl, wont that do the trick ?

and what did 'HTC GPS tool' report?

lukesan said:
and what did 'HTC GPS tool' report?
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if you can provide a .cab for it i will let you know, but i am currently preparing it to take it back to service.
PS : By flashing back to 1.14 and getting the green screen, all i had to do is reflash stock 1.14 spl ( just for knowing ).

Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3004081

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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3004081
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give me 5 mins to check it.
I hope the service guys wont give me a hard time fixing it or replacing it or i will be really sad to buy a new one
PS : No gps tool did nothing as well, no fix , not even a single satellite and after pressing the test button, it was resetting it after 5 seconds of testing it.
I am really sure its the module

just take it easy.
Sometimes it is best to let it, meaning yourself, rest a couple of hours to start troubleshooting again.
Wait atleast 10 minutes outside while it starts gathering information and preferably leave the Touch on a device that stands still, so not walking around

sedde said:
What does this has to do with my GPS ?
Destinator 7 and igo8 mostly.
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Both Google maps and TomTom uses AGPS!
At least on my phone, that reduces connection time conciderably!!