Desire vs N1 useragent options? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello
ok I tried to change the UserAgent with about:debug trick under N1 Roms but the choice is limited to Android-Iphone-Desktop.
While with Froyo Desire to N1 Rom I can litterally change the UA with a custom one using the ''manual'' option that is not in N1's roms (CM6,Enom...)
Why google has closed this option??
Is there any ways to ''unlock'' it?
Desire R23 is a good Rom but the lack of BT,USB,trackball wake,trackball colors makes it very limited

I guess my question is; why does it matter?
The N1 and Desire are pretty much the same phone. It's not like you changing that is going to do anything.

Actually it changes for me!
I can't use my APN unless I use a custom UA because Android is not supported yet

EarthsiegeTA said:
I guess my question is; why does it matter?
The N1 and Desire are pretty much the same phone. It's not like you changing that is going to do anything.
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It's extremely helpful to web developers to who need to check different versions of a mobile page if needed. (Having multiple mobile sites, some optimized for Android while others are optimized for Blackberries.)

I still don't see the point, as both the N1 and the Desire are Android devices.

We are not saying this device is better than the other dude
It's just a feature that the Desire has and not the N1, we can have it using a Desire Rom on the N1 but unfortunetly actual Desire Roms for N1 are unstable and incomplete

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Recommend me an Android Phone

Guys you can recommend me some good android as i am bored using windows mobile since 6 years.
I want a good capable android probably with Capacitive screen and a good camera, processor and ram. I am thinking of X10 is that a good phone.
Thanks
Eh, I hear lost of bad about the X10. Why not try the Desire or Nexus one? Possibly the Galaxy S even...
i'm using a htc desire ATM and no complaint from here, running it on froyo custom rom
the n1 is good running froyo custom rom on it as well
My bro brought htc tattoo but either he or me liked it much as WM phones.
Reason :
1. Its hard to find apps for android. I know there are lots of apps for android but see #2
2. Even if you find one, 99% it will be a barcode/qc code download or phone download link but no pc download link so you will need phone with GPRS or WIFI or 3G to download and install. This is hard for Indian users
3. You cannot use pc to phone internet via USB or not even bluetooth, like WM phones.
4. You cannot install apps on sd but only on mainmemory, thank god tattoo has enough memory ( 512mb )
I think these all related to all android phones.
As you wish but I prefer WM phone the most!
Best Regards
CRACING said:
My bro brought htc tattoo but either he or me liked it much as WM phones.
Reason :
1. Its hard to find apps for android. I know there are lots of apps for android but see #2
2. Even if you find one, 99% it will be a barcode/qc code download or phone download link but no pc download link so you will need phone with GPRS or WIFI or 3G to download and install. This is hard for Indian users
3. You cannot use pc to phone internet via USB or not even bluetooth, like WM phones.
4. You cannot install apps on sd but only on mainmemory, thank god tattoo has enough memory ( 512mb )
I think these all related to all android phones.
As you wish but I prefer WM phone the most!
Best Regards
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1. What? I seem to remember the Market app on Android that has plenty of applications to use.
3. Um, if he gets a new device: FroYo. If not, I've had tethering on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
4. FroYo, I've had it on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
I find your argument invalid.
Stick with xda support & a htc froyo device...
JAguirre1231 said:
1. What? I seem to remember the Market app on Android that has plenty of applications to use.
3. Um, if he gets a new device: FroYo. If not, I've had tethering on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
4. FroYo, I've had it on my G1/Dream since I rooted.
I find your argument invalid.
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Ah sorry I forgot to mention, I'm using official ROM on my tattoo and there are no updates for it.
May be the new versions doesn't have such issues. But for our tattoo owners. :'(
Yes there are lots of app but something doesn't suits me then WM apps downloads.
Anyways, sorry if I said anything or totally wrong.
Best Regards
Now i think nexus one or htc desire would be good. Only problem with nexus one is no capacitive screen. I like x10 also because of its 8 mp camera and all other features are same as nexus one, what say guyz i am confused now.
CRACING said:
Ah sorry I forgot to mention, I'm using official ROM on my tattoo and there are no updates for it.
May be the new versions doesn't have such issues. But for our tattoo owners. :'(
Yes there are lots of app but something doesn't suits me then WM apps downloads.
Anyways, sorry if I said anything or totally wrong.
Best Regards
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Ah, the tattoo. No wonder you like WM better with that phone, under-powered AND it has Sense.
samy.3660 said:
Now i think nexus one or htc desire would be good. Only problem with nexus one is no capacitive screen. I like x10 also because of its 8 mp camera and all other features are same as nexus one, what say guyz i am confused now.
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Nexus One has a capacitive screen...
Thumbs down for X10 from me.
No multitouch means no full speed typing on the soft keyboard.
Outdated Android OS version.
Very plastic and cheap build.
Timescape performance is laggy.
Wide reports of battery drain. Likely to be software related.
As of this moment, I think you've got a choice between the following:
Nexus One, Desire, Droid Incredible, Evo (depending on geographic location)
Galaxy S
Droid, Droid X
ohyeahar said:
Nexus One has a capacitive screen...
Thumbs down for X10 from me.
No multitouch means no full speed typing on the soft keyboard.
Outdated Android OS version.
Very plastic and cheap build.
Timescape performance is laggy.
Wide reports of battery drain. Likely to be software related.
As of this moment, I think you've got a choice between the following:
Nexus One, Desire, Droid Incredible, Evo (depending on geographic location)
Galaxy S
Droid, Droid X
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Nexus one doesn't have capacitive screen(Multi touch), i have checked it with pdadb.net and also on google official site
samy.3660 said:
Nexus one doesn't have capacitive screen(Multi touch), i have checked it with pdadb.net and also on google official site
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"Capacitive screen" doesn't necessarily equal "multi-touch".
For example, the X10 has a capacitive screen but it doesn't support multi-touch. It's because of the hardware. Regardless of what software updates Sony Ericsson rolls out, the X10 will not get multi-touch support.
However, the Nexus One does indeed have a capacitive screen. And the hardware supports multi-touch. In fact, it's the same screen as used in the HTC Desire. Whether or not multi-touch works, depends on the software. For example, it was mentioned in reviews that there's no multi-touch support right out the box; but certain applications like Dolphin Browser can utilize pinch-to-zoom.
So i think i have 2 options now samsung Galaxy S and Nexus one.
Which one to go for and Why, please??
Do you guys think it is worth going for motorola milestone, if i am getting it lot cheaper than nexus one. i think only drawback in milestone is slow processor and ram. Do you think 600mhz processor and 256 ram is not enough for new android builds like froyo or future one ginger bread??
samy.3660 said:
Do you guys think it is worth going for motorola milestone, if i am getting it lot cheaper than nexus one. i think only drawback in milestone is slow processor and ram. Do you think 600mhz processor and 256 ram is not enough for new android builds like froyo or future one ginger bread??
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Certainly the Droid/Milestone can handle Froyo since it's going to be officially released as an OTA update by Motorola. Not sure about Gingerbread though. There's not much information on that anywhere and there's conflicting reports on what are the minimum specs.
I'm not a fan of the Milestone/Droid, so I wouldn't recommend it. The hardware keyboard is a defining feature of the device and yet, it's so poorly designed and near unusable. But that's just my opinion; perhaps you're alright with it...

Roms or Not?

are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??
Why would you assume we could even do that? All the phones run Android. And they all have different drivers for their various hardware differences.
Porting a rom would be to pull just the Android part out of it, and put it on the Nexus. Which is already what we have.
If you mean porting the different launchers/icons/widgets that is done all the time. And we have a lot of things like that.
xghostyxjokerx said:
are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??
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The Desire's been ported by Paul. If you want something broken, download one of King's many ports.
well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?
it would be great to maybe see the galaxy s rom ported over to the nexus one....anyone out there know how to do this?? or even the evo or droid x roms ported over to the nexus one?? is this possible...???
xghostyxjokerx said:
well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?
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Well, maybe becoz the N1 has the latest Android version and porting stuff from earlier Android versions is not always possible... the Desire had 2.1 and now has a leaked 2.2, and is very much similar to the N1, so porting is possible... if stuff like blur was written for Android 2.1/2.2, I'm sure we'd see blur roms for the N1....
dont the droix x run one 2.1 and also the galxay rom run on 2.1 cant nexus one go back to 2.1 i still can use 2.1? on a rooted version of n1?
i just hope we all will be able to seen some roms realease coming soon
Yes, instead of developing proper Nexus AOSP ROM, porting newer graphic driver, enabling 720p and FM radio, etc - let's spend the time porting a zillion of different ROMs, with whatever features that won't work..
Or maybe not.
um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....
xghostyxjokerx said:
um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....
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Well, the Nexus and Desire have very similar hardware... so it was easier to port considering less driver problems... besides the DroidX is new and the Desire's been out for quite a while... maybe we'll see a DroidX firmware port in a while... maybe we won't...

Incredible S or Nexus S

Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?
Remember, this is a phone released in March/April! Developer support will grow significantly once AlphaRevX has released the public beta for S-OFF, letting you put custom roms onto the IS.
To note, it's more of the question of whether you want to use Sense UI for the time being or be open to use other roms.
In terms of hardware, its similar - asside from the cameras, 8.0 and 1.3 Megapixels respectively.
You can't go wrong if its FREE, however its solely up to you.
I need some help deciding lol
Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
Are the IS roms stable, fast and as good as the ones on the HD?
I've never been this undecided! )
kingofthebraves said:
Someone's offering me a desire hd with an otterbox case and the other guy an IS. Same price and all.
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I don't root my phone nor put custom rom on it, so cannot comment on rom. But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the size, screen quality, battery life, weight, no ffc, and other stuff, I sold it and bought IS which IMO is the best HTC single core phone.
Regarding rootability, I don't mind too much but I do believe time will solve all the problem, there will be always ways to make things happened.
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h.han said:
But between DHD and IS, I came from DHD, because of the screen quality
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That.
The S-LCD in the Incredible S is probably one of the best displays i've ever seen on a mobile handset (aside from S-AMOLED displays). The viewing angles are spectacular, no wash out whatsoever unless it's a really extreme angle. AND the colours are really vivid.
Despite the DHD having a 4.3" display vs a 4.0" display, the IS beats it hands down in the display department
yeah i have used DHD and IS and IS beats DHD by a mile
Both phones are similar from a spec standpoint. I think the Incredible S feels better in the hand. Nexus S felt cheap to me. Nexus S will get updates first but once the Incredible S is rooted there will be a custom rom for any updates the Nexus S gets in the future.
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kingofthebraves said:
Hi guys,
Using a Nexus S right now and a buddy is offering me his unlocked IS. I am very tempted because of the faster processor and more memory but the locked bootloader and lack of developer support (compared to other phones) is becoming a big turn off. Value wise, the IS or even the DHD is a sure bet but again, support is key to a successful phone and it doesn't get better than google's Nexus family.
What do you think?
But I'm seeing a lot of custom roms, are they fully functional and bug free? As good as the ones on the HD forums?
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My IS is rooted and Mike1986 Rom is 100% working and stable, never had a single force close. Speed is instant, no delays anywhere.
I have this same dilemma but it's the opposite. I have the Incredible S. Sigh.
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My phone is very smooth w/o root.... Gingerbread...... Everything is perfect and I don't feel the need for root.... I tried both nexus s and IS personally I felt sense more productive in day to day work and more beautiful too.... My battery lasts a day easily and display is on par with super amoled.... There are some unique features of sense that I like .... Say for example... Flip to silent... Volume boost when in pocket....and volume reduce when u lift the phone.... These make the phone more useful.... Plus the build quality is better than Samsung.... Anytime... And design is unique... All these make it desirable.....
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Your friends IS may even have an unlocked bootloader right now. I've heard the GPS chip in nexus s is crap aswell. It was a dilemma for me too as I was trying to choose between the same phones. I ultimately went for this one though and haven't regretted it at all. One thing I would have liked in theory though is the contactless payment chip as I think McDonald's offer that now
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i have both: Inspire 4G (US version of the Desire HD) and a factory s-off'd Bell Incredible S. i've rooted both and am using sense 3.0 roms on both. ( lights at bottom aren't working yet with Sense 3.0 on the Inc S. ) the Inc S display is better than my Inspire and it's easier to carry. also seems to be a little faster than my Inspire, but not enough to sway me away from the Inspire. the smaller screen can be an issue for some (but not me); yes (to me) .3 inches makes a difference with some things like font size in email. not a show stopper though.
bottom line: i don't think you can go wrong with either one. i use the Inc S for work and the Inspire for "play".
Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.
Hi Cortez,
I have Inc S for playing, including NON-succesfully obtain s-off by alpharevx ;p my work is rely on HD2, larger screen give me comfort in reading email and sms. I do like sense very much due to the keyboard layout with cursor up-dwon, right-left keys, it make not neccessary to touch text area when typing email/sms. Plain GB Rom (Nexus for example) is fast, but sense give us very good Mail Client. Easier to read/send email (even gmail) on sense mail client rather than by default gmail apps on the default ROM. I tried to put sense keyboard into plain android rom, but No Lucks. since Im not dev or rom chef. I cook rom for fun and for personal use, not for public Is there any GB rom based on plain (nexus) with sense keyboard and mail client (?) sense is another layer on the plain android rom and htc cook very nice and well polished.

[Q] OXYGEN ROM or AOSP ROM that is not CM7 or MIUI.

Just wondering, why isn't any aosp rom out there besides CM7 or MIUI
I would say the Incredible S is, relatively speaking, not a massively popular device. Go over to the Desire S forum and see how active it is. I'm guessing a lot of people who were getting a phone at the time both of these were launching chose the Desire S over this one for whatever reason. I don't know how it is in other countries but in the UK, none of the mobile networks actually sell the IS directly... but several sell the DS. The fact that it's third-party only has probably made a difference to sales.
Yeah, that's kinda sad as the IS is a pretty good device
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[Q] Is upgrading worth it?

Hi there, I have an Incredible S with Android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1. It was originally locked to Virgin (canada) but I unlocked it and now it's on Rogers. The phone says there is no software updates.
It gets the job done as basically all I'm using it for is text and phone.
I am a complete newbie and know nothing about RUU's, radios, kernels, and other stuff I've read on here.
I have seen many threads about people having upgraded to ICS and find their phones laggy, the screen gets stuck, ect.
My question is, if you have upgraded, was it worth it, or do you wish you never had done it?
I would enjoy having the latest, but not very technical inclined.
Thanks, and I appreciate you feedback.
If you're happy stay where you are.
I have tried most of the roms and some are laggy some are not. I'm on Nik's Project X with the Redux kernal and love it. Ice cream sandwich is a lot nicer to use than Gingerbread, easier to look at and a lot easier to set up to suit what you want.
But again it really is personal preference.
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Yeah, it really is personal preference.
I am currently on Nik Project X and it is running extremely smoothly...
I guess the only reason you would like to upgrade to ics is purely for compatibility, as much of the newer apps are going to jellybean and ics, rather than gingerbread. The official OTA was quite laggy when i got it, so i rooted and switched to a custom rom. Also, if you install a custom radio, network signal could dramatically increase or dramatically decrease. So beware what radio you are flashing. Also, flashing a radio is very risky, so beware!
In the end, it is your choice. If you are just using your phone purely for text and calling, then you can stick with gingerbread, but people like me who are using their phone and discovering it's capabilities, it is probably better if they upgrade..
I agree Pic.
My suggestion would be to install a good recovery. And make a nandroid backup. That way if it goes wrong you can go back to where you were!
Then load a rom in and play. I could never in back to 2.3! Or even sense 2.
And yes, Project X is smooth and to my way much better.
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Depends on the ROM. I'm on MIUI GB and recently tried MIUI v4 only to find it a laggy POS for the most part. From what I understand the stock ICS ROMs that are rolling out from most manufacturers can be quite laggy. I think this is something to do with how ICS manages memory. Custom ROMs can get around this, so it'd be worth experimenting.
Compatibility probably won't be an issue for the time being. I seem to recall that something like 80% of Android phones are still on Gingerbread, so making an app only run on ICS or JB would seriously limit your market.
Regarding flashing a new radio I'd say that, unless you have good reason to want to change (really poor signal etc), I wouldn't bother. I'm not sure the risks outweigh the reward, if everything is fine with the version you already have.
Put it this way - the reason I rooted my phone was because HTC updated the ROM and my phone ground to a halt. Flashing a custom ROM transformed my phone back into a speedy machine, and added a whole bunch of additional functionality that I now can't live without!
Fair enough,
If u do not want to flash a custom rom, then u can flash a stock rom.. For some reason it is quicker than ota and it maintains s-off...
Your choice in the end buddy
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Thanks for the responses and experiences guys!
I guess I'll stick with what I have until I've done more reading and am more confident.
Thanks again
funlog said:
Hi there, I have an Incredible S with Android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1. It was originally locked to Virgin (canada) but I unlocked it and now it's on Rogers. The phone says there is no software updates.
It gets the job done as basically all I'm using it for is text and phone.
I am a complete newbie and know nothing about RUU's, radios, kernels, and other stuff I've read on here.
I have seen many threads about people having upgraded to ICS and find their phones laggy, the screen gets stuck, ect.
My question is, if you have upgraded, was it worth it, or do you wish you never had done it?
I would enjoy having the latest, but not very technical inclined.
Thanks, and I appreciate you feedback.
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There are no "over the air" (OTA) updates from Bell/Virgin, but HTC have released an ICS update on their developer site:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/10/02/h...for-incredible-s-users-on-its-developer-site/
Just filter on device "Incredible S", carrier "HTC" and region "CA". The downloaded file is an RUU, which will do all the work of updating your phone to Android 4.0.4 and Sense 3.6.
I applied the update yesterday without any issue, though did a full reboot (remove battery) in order to clear out some initial sluggishness.
FWIW, my thoughts:
+ new text message conversation UI is nice, with each message in it's own little piece of paper
+ text message timestamps are correct on rogers (i.e. don't need to download "SMS time fix")
- some of the animations are a little overdone
= the tile-based approach to rendering pages means initial loads are blurry, but scrolling is fine once the page has finished rendering
++ no Bell bloatware
+ new gmail app is much much better
- not sure I like the new phone answer/decline UI when the screen is locked
+ htc mail app handles multiple accounts better than the gingerbread version, though now that the gmail app is usable, this isn't a big deal for me
- htc calendar widget is white text on black background, I preferred the old version
- lost access to various htc-specific apps/widgets, so you'll need to find replacements on the play store
+ play store app replaces the market
Overall, I'm happy with the update.
This old preview will give you an idea of what Sense 3.6 looks like: http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/13/htc-sense-3-6-preview/
Go for Nik Project X,
Even though you are light user (like me), you will enjoy very light and smooth user interface and also sense 4.0
Also, ICS will come with all its hidden benefits...no need to list down I guess....
I also have a Virgin Mobile IncS unlocked and now on the Rogers network. I'm currently using Nik's IncS Jellybean rom and it has been incredibly stable for me and I am using it as my daily rom. It's not perfect, but it's an excellent rom.
If you're concerned about the feedback on ICS/Jellybean, but still want to explore rooting, why don't you try some of the Gingerbread roms? CM-7.2 is one of the most stable roms out there and has quite a few features that are not present in the stock rom. If you don't want to lose Sense, there are quite a few roms in development that might meet your needs. There are even a few that are based on the official ICS rom.
Hi guys, well I bit the bullet and loaded the stock ics ruu from htc site. Have not rooted or s-off yet as I don't feel confident enough yet.
So far, about a week in and it is very fast. I have to admit, I don't notice too much of a difference because I am such a basic user.
But it has got rid off quite a few things I never used, so it is leaner. So I'm happy I did it, and want to thank everyone for their opinions and help. :good:

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