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hi. if my droid 3 global has a bad esn, can i use it with the verizon gsm sim i have?
thanks
No you cant. The sim card is for global once you travel out the US. If you can get the device sim unlock from Verizon, I would just sell the device to someone International and buy another phone after that. Once a device has a bad ESN, the device is not usable by that carrier until the device is cleared of.
actually, the verizon sim does work in the US. right now, i am on a laptop using it. i can get an unlock code if i wanted to also. and what i am thinking is that only cdma uses ESN. if i use the verizon sim, wouldnt it work anyways? because sim does not use ESN.
You are correct, only CDMA uses ESN. GSM modems uses MEID
eXecuter.bin said:
You are correct, only CDMA uses ESN. GSM modems uses MEID
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Exactly. So can it use the verizon sim instead, and still work?
Wait a second. Lemme get a couple things straight:
1. You have a VZ D3.
2. Your ESN for your D3 has been blacklisted or blocked in some way.
3. You're getting service on your D3 despite your ESN being blocked?
VZ doesn't have a GSM network, so the SIM is completely useless in the states, because you can't use the UMTS radio as VZ has blocked US carriers (unless you've flashed with the Chinese ME883 rom, which updates the radio firmware so you can use it on AT&T / T-mobile (2.5G only). If your ESN is blocked, you shouldn't be getting any service at all.
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Wait a second. Lemme get a couple things straight:
1. You have a VZ D3.
2. Your ESN for your D3 has been blacklisted or blocked in some way.
3. You're getting service on your D3 despite your ESN being blocked?
VZ doesn't have a GSM network, so the SIM is completely useless in the states, because you can't use the UMTS radio as VZ has blocked US carriers (unless you've flashed with the Chinese ME883 rom, which updates the radio firmware so you can use it on AT&T / T-mobile (2.5G only). If your ESN is blocked, you shouldn't be getting any service at all.
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actually, im going to go pickup the bad esn droid 3 soon, and the sim is verizons. and its not useless in the states i get evdo-rev:a (3g) wherever i go on my netbook, because it has a verizon sim in it.
rehkhan97 said:
actually, im going to go pickup the bad esn droid 3 soon, and the sim is verizons. and its not useless in the states i get evdo-rev:a (3g) wherever i go on my netbook, because it has a verizon sim in it.
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No, if the ESN of the device isn't working at all, a SIM card isn't going to be much good. All CDMA devices (re: phones, mobile broadband modems) use ESN/MEID to authenticate the device for service, NOT IMSI, which is what the SIM card provides. The D3 won't be able to work even with a valid Verizon SIM because it doesn't use that at all to authenticate. The IMSI/SIM is only used while roaming on GSM networks.
In a nutshell - GSM uses IMSI on SIM card for service. Sticking a Verizon SIM card in will do nothing for the D3 because the ESN/MEID is still bad.
I'm guessing you can only use a non verizon sim card outside of US if you're unlocked, or flash the XT883 rom instead
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I have a D3 , ESN is bad . Can i use my D3 with any GSM carriers in Euro ?
@ : Sry 4 my English .
If you get it SIM unlocked yes.
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You are correct, only CDMA uses ESN. GSM modems uses MEID
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rehkhan97 said:
Exactly. So can it use the verizon sim instead, and still work?
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i think eXecuter means... "GSM models use IMEI", by all means, MEID is just the code of newer generation replacing ESN (since ESN is exhausted)
Not like unlock as in Password unlock, I mean as,
I need to change my phone provider from Verizon to AT&T.
My phone is a Android Milestone (1) and it recently recovered from a bootloop.
More on the information of the bootloop, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8#post31092838
I'm wondering if anyone can help me? I'm not sure if that's in anyone's expertise but i'm asking anyway. ^-^
If the phone was on Verizon originally, it is a Motorola Droid (A855), not a Milestone (A853 or A854). That also means it uses a CDMA radio and will not work on ATT which uses GSM.
rand0mdude said:
I need to change my phone provider from Verizon to AT&T.
My phone is a Android Milestone
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These statements create conflict in my brain. There is no Milestone on Verizon.
Beyond that discrepancy, there is no way to get a CDMA phone onto a GSM network. Wikipedia is your friend.
Good luck!
-CM7 on DInc2
my friend has a droid bionic that he tried to activate on page plus just to be told that he has a bad esn but i read somewhere that one can bypass this by simply unlocking the sim capabilities of the phone...so it can be used on net10 for example....just need help on where to go that wont charge to much to do it.....please help?
I have a Sprint moto X that was a gift from someone in the US, all my local SIMs that I've inserted are displaying "invalid SIM" and it's not asking for any unlock code either, do anyone know what's wrong and possible solution. Thanks
The phone is simlocked and does not prompt for an unlock card like a GSM phone. I believe only Sprint can unlock it.
I think Sprint requires a device to be active for 90 days on their service before it can he unlocked. You can try calling though. The only CDMA carrier in the US that sells LTE devices that are already GSM unlocked is Verizon.
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I think Sprint requires a device to be active for 90 days on their service before it can he unlocked. You can try calling though. The only CDMA carrier in the US that sells LTE devices that are already GSM unlocked is Verizon.
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okay, I'll try and contact Sprint
I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
Domenic
domenictroilo said:
I am a Rodgers subscriber and have purchased a used Sprint Moto X. I have unlocked it so I could just put in a SIM and go. Is this my best option or should/can I flash this with custom firmware, updated Sprint firmware (KitKat), or switch over to Rogers firmware. Any other Sprint Moto X users in Canada out there? Current software is 161.44.32.ghost_Sprint.en.US
Domenic
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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Were you able to sim unlock your Sprint Moto X ?? How did you do that?
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I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
Domenic
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I was under the impression that the unlock of the phone would allow any SIM to be put in. The point of unlocking the phone would be to allow a person to take a phone and use it with any other provider. I do not have the right size SIM to put in but the phone is connected to the Rodgers network right now and I can dial 911 (emergency dial). It could be that I do not understand the definition of unlock and now have a phone I can still only use with Sprint.....
Domenic
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If you went to the Motorola site and did their unlock procedure.... Then you unlocked the boot loader. That won't let you use the phone on another carrier. Unlocking boot loader would be done with fast boot.
If you sim unlocked....you would have had a code from sprint....or somewhere, and when you put the other carrier sim card in....it would ask you for a code, and you would enter the code.
What exactly did you do???
Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
domenictroilo said:
Just the bootloader, should have done more research. There are sites that suggest for a small fee the sim can be unlocked. Can they unlock sprint phones or am I going to have to sell it?
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I may be wrong, but since there's an unlock sprint sim bounty thread....I am pretty sure those sites can't unlock sprint moto x's.
Sorry!!!
No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
kj2112 said:
Bounty threads are all the rage for the X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729744
Sprint phones can't be sim unlocked. So buying one to use on another carrier isn't really an option.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
P.S. and one news I PM ysabxe for information progress on this project but he say that this thread is not actual for him more I thin cause nobody send him that files what he needed for unlock he need already unlocked Moto X TWRP backup.
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No the bounty threads are to unlock the bootloader. As for Sim unlocking, I don't know anything about it related to CDMA network.
According to Wikipedia, Rogers is a GSM network. Sprint is a CDMA network. Therefore the Sprint Moto X will not work with Rogers, unless I'm missing something. There is an exception that Verizon phones are world phones which mean they support CDMA, but their newer phones also have the radio to support GSM, which means their phone are GSM unlocked to work for GSM networks outside of US (from what I understand they prevent it from working with GSM carriers within US unless you sim unlock it).
Sorry but the Sprint Moto X won't work with Rogers network. You just need to buy a GSM unlocked Moto X (xt1053) and stick the sim in, then enter the Rogers APN information. You can also get an unlocked ATT Moto X (xt1058) or presumably a Verizon Moto X.
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Don't trust Wikipedia. Just like the verizon X, the sprint X supports at least quad band gsm for global roaming, which are the same gsm frequencies also used in North America. (I haven't looked into the other frequencies the sprint x supports).
The problem comes in that the Sprint X is sim locked to only use their Sims. You can only get the sim unlock code from sprint directly, no 3rd party sellers seem to have them. Sprint will only give it if you are a current customer, with the X active on your line, and other condiitions are met.... So if you buy a used Sprint Moto X that hasn't been sim unlocked, you are screwed. But if you buy one that has been sim unlocked, you'll be able to get at least basic gsm.
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You say that buying Sprint Moto X isn't option but there is some way to unlock Moto X because there is solutions for Sprint HTC One, Sprint LG G2, Sprint Galaxy S4 and etc so it's don't be hard to make solution to unlock Sprint Moto X too so maybe there could be found developers who will do it I have hope.
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Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
Because other phones can, you must be able to on X.... Unfortunately that is faulty logic.
For whatever reason, the only way to sim unlock a Sprint Moto X has been to be a current Sprint customer and get the code from them. For all the posts on XDA asking for Sprint X sim unlock code for those who are no longer Sprint customers, no one has found a way. None of the 3rd party code sellers have a way.
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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If you are active user look unlocking steps there is always used omadm.apk on Sprint HTC one and Sprint LG G2 so there is way to unlock Sprint X too but need already sprint customer who already have unlocked their Sprint X and need files from already unlocked Sprint X ysabxe was asking make backup and link it on dropbox or some cloud but nobody did it. so it doesn't mean that it is impossible to unlock Sprint X
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Again, you're assuming the same method and software used to SIM unlock phones by other makers is how its done on the X too.
While it may not be impossible, I would say its improbable... The X has been out since August yet with all the requests by those looking to SIM unlock the Sprint X, as of today, no one has posted a way to do it, other than be an active sprint customer and request the code from them.